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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
July 06 2011 03:27 GMT
#441
I thought palmar had no nukes..
Caller said that people can keep launching nukes, even if they've run out. Those nukes just won't do any damage.
Then again, that just makes it look like Palmar is trying to stir shit up.
t(ツ)t
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 03:41 GMT
#442
@Sandroba:

I think that a lot of your argument is based on meta-game, which is never strong as a central argument, and should only be used to support. However, some of the things you pointed out about how Palmar has been playing in this game, and his behavioural changes, specifically regarding his stance on nuke usage over time as pressure on him increased, are actually decent. That said, I think Palmar is focusing a lot on Nukes, and trying to promote their active use, which leads me to believe he is more likely to be conspirator than mafia.

Add to that, that he broke the mostly agreed upon plan (and his own plan as well), and also, from the OP:

If the target has multiple night lives or is hit by a dud missile, the exact same sort of response will be acknowledged, so be careful.


I'm not sure exactly, but I think this means that dud missiles will actually increase the radiation level, or at least make it appear as though the radiation level will increase. Either way, this helps the conspirator in his goal.

That said, I'm going to keep my vote on Sinani for now, as his reaction to pressure and how he interacted with Curu has me a bit more suspicious. I want to keep watching him, because he's seeming more scummy to me now, and I want to keep the pressure on with my vote.
you gotta dance
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 06 2011 04:00 GMT
#443
DAY ONE

DUNKIRK OPERATION
Drazerk
YoungMinii
Syllogism
TheAwesomeAll
Deconduo
Mig
Misder
Heist
JeeJee
Coagulation
Navilus
Prplhz
Mr. Wiggles
Eiii
Kitaman27
Ciryandor
Cthsaza

GUNNERSIDE OPERATION
Curu
Palmar
Sinani206


OPERATION WATCHTOWER
Kurumi


-------------

LYNCH VOTE

Mataza
JeeJee
Gmarshal
Palmar

Sinani206
Syllogism
Mr. Wiggles
Navilus

Zona
Kitaman27
Curu
Ciryandor

Palmar
Sandroba
Chaos13

Sandroba
Sinani206

Prplhz
Heist
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
July 06 2011 04:01 GMT
#444
Missile Attack!


[image loading]

Palmar's missile slams into GMarshal's country. When the smoke vanishes, GMarshal is still alive! It is unknown what happened to the missile.

Day ends in 12 Hours

(missile was sped up due to bed)
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 06 2011 04:03 GMT
#445
IM MAKING A GOD DAMN VOTING THREAD VOTE IN THERE FROM NOW ON
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 06 2011 04:26 GMT
#446
DAY ENDS in 2 hours. Wiggles where is your vote?
Come on people vote for Palmar. He did not even respond to my case, while being active in other threads. I guarantee you he is scum.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 06 2011 04:26 GMT
#447
EBWP 12 hours
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
July 06 2011 04:36 GMT
#448
Ok we need to narrow down our vote to at most 3 people, I think we should focus on palmer and sinani and everyone should have to decide between them, palmer for the reasons sandroba lined out and sinani because he looked slightly scummy, got pressured, looked really scummy, then got to shut up and lose the attention on himself without actually looking any less scummy. At the very least get those pointless votes off of mataza, and prplhz, mataza was pressure voted for discussion which has happened, and I don't even know why prplhz was voted by heist but it's not gonna happen so choose someone realistic.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 06 2011 04:52 GMT
#449
I voted for sinani because sinani's behavior in this thread is not ok. It's just weird how much he picked at that little issue and tried to make a big deal out of it when it's really not. I also strongly agree with the case on Palmar. I think both are really good lynches, so if we decided to use a nuke today (in general I would say that we shouldn't nuke day 1 but I like both of these lynches enough that I'd support the use of a nuke) then we should nuke one and lynch the other.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
July 06 2011 04:55 GMT
#450
Why the hell did palmer shoot GMARSH?
What the fuck was the point of that? Also
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 06 2011 04:57 GMT
#451
I really hope to hear prplhz in why advocated all those poor decisions, but I'm willing to change my vote to someone more realistic, either Sinani or Palmar. I'm still keeping an eye out for him.

In regards to Palmar, I don't really see how it does the mafia any good to send out a dud-nuke. He had to know that it would cause unwanted suspicion AND he didn't yet know it would go through extra lives.

Sinani's response to pressure is just so wild and accusatory that I can't help become more suspicious. He still has said nothing of himself to ease our suspicions. Therefore, I will be changing my vote to Sinani.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
July 06 2011 04:59 GMT
#452
Wasnt like the point of all those plans to take care of shit like this. what happen to nuke = lynched ? Why is everyone not lynching Palmer now or shooting him with a fucking nuke at least.
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
July 06 2011 05:05 GMT
#453
Ok so I'm going to sleep now and there's a slim possibility that I won't be back before day-end but if so I'm leaving my vote on sinani he really seems the most suspicious to me and we can't just let people respond super-suspiciously then drop it for no reason. I would support a nuke dropped on Palmer (or do it vice versa) but first there needs to be a solid backing for the nuke with no major objections, and everyone remember that the day goes for another 12 hours at the time of firing the nuke (if I understood the rules correctly) Finally everyone that isn't on palmer or sinani should get on one of them and explain why, we can look at the other accused people tonight/tomorrow.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
July 06 2011 05:07 GMT
#454
On July 06 2011 13:57 heist wrote:
I really hope to hear prplhz in why advocated all those poor decisions, but I'm willing to change my vote to someone more realistic, either Sinani or Palmar. I'm still keeping an eye out for him.

In regards to Palmar, I don't really see how it does the mafia any good to send out a dud-nuke. He had to know that it would cause unwanted suspicion AND he didn't yet know it would go through extra lives.

Sinani's response to pressure is just so wild and accusatory that I can't help become more suspicious. He still has said nothing of himself to ease our suspicions. Therefore, I will be changing my vote to Sinani.


I already defended myself here, to syllogism's pressure vote of me. I don't understand why I'm still a "major lynch candidate," as I defended myself and FoSed two others. Does anyone have an actual analysis of how I'm scum?
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 06 2011 05:15 GMT
#455
@coag Yes. Yet somehow even the people that agreed to it are not voting palmar.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 06 2011 05:59 GMT
#456
i don't know who to vote for
you guys are all playing like maniacs

##Vote: Palmar
lalala
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 06:05 GMT
#457
I am going to vote palmar and give my reasons as soon as I get home, within next couple hours. On phone so hard to type a long message atm.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 06:07 GMT
#458
Alright, well I'm going to bed now, and I don't know if I'll be around for the night post, depending when it is. I'm going to vote for Palmar now, because he looks scummy to me for the reasons I gave before, and because I feel more comfortable lynching him with just the information I have now. I think there's a high probability he's actually the conspirator.

As well, my continued vote on Sinani was mostly to keep pressure on him, but since others are voting him as well now, there'll still be pressure on him while I sleep from the other votes, so I'll be able to read his continued reactions in the morning.

Good night.

you gotta dance
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
July 06 2011 06:47 GMT
#459
Anyone find it weird how easy a bandwagon is forming on Sandroba?
Palmar hasn't been acting protown, but I don't understand why the hell everyone was freaking out when Palmar launched that dud-nuke. He stated as soon as the game began that he has no nukes.
I haven't found his behavior to be scummy, but he's certainly not acting protown. Like someone before me stated, I wouldn't be surprised if he was the Conspirator.

I also think he is a good lynch, but I'm not going to place my vote just yet. I need to go back and read up on the other candidates.

Overall I'm pretty damn glad that no nukes have been launched yet. Hopefully shit doesn't hit the fan until at least Day 2
t(ツ)t
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 07:00 GMT
#460
On July 06 2011 13:26 sandroba wrote:
DAY ENDS in 2 hours. Wiggles where is your vote?
Come on people vote for Palmar. He did not even respond to my case, while being active in other threads. I guarantee you he is scum.

Don´t you dare scare me again.
If you were right I would have been lynched right now, before I even reacted.

First of all, my apologies for long absent. I began playing TF2 a lot since it is now free and I am kinda burned out in regards to mafia.
Seriously people, this is a GAME. Stop being so fucking tense and serious. I am here to have fun, but most of the stuff you´re writing is as interesting as RL politics. I even joined the caller game because Caller games have the reputation to be wtf bananas.
Relax and loosen up and have fun. Peace.

With that said, I propose


Matazas Plan for having funsies

Nuke Policy
Destroy what destroys you.
Right now the tense atmosphere destroys me, but I am sure as hell I am not allowed to nuke *that*.

Punishment
It might sound like a consequence free environment, but really it is not. Not entirely at least.
You should be aware that people will do unto you as you do unto them.
Much like mutually assured destruction or to be more biblical "Do unto other as you want be done unto you"
If you want to stop nuclear armageddon, lead by example and don´t nuke.

Why
Because I want to have fun, and right now I am having none.

Support
How does this plan compare to WaW 1? How could it have affected the results of that game?
Who the fuck cares? Didn´t even read that game. At least I am sure these guys *had* fun.

Other Tidbits
Call me a loose cannon if you want. I am not here to be uptight.

##Vote: Matazas Plan


On another note, of the three allied campaigns Dunkirk is the most obvious choice, really.

Watchtower does jackshit and Axis campaigns or special power may even circumvent that.

Gunnerside sounds good, but considering the arsenal scum might or might not have, will not have as big an effect as you may think. Townnukes are much more dangerous to town than scumnukes. Atop of that it takes 2 turns.
If Gunnerside takes 2 turns, does that mean we get no campaign tomorrow?

I may be not boreitish, but a handful of free veterans is sure a goddamn good deal.
I am in a country of twats that can´t do much until Mr. Twatface himself dies.
May I change sides(the RL twats of this coutnry would sure as hell do, I am sure)?

##Vote: Operation Dunkirk


On yet another note, who to kill today. Here´s what I think:

Palmar doesn´t look like the usual self and completely forgot PTP with a lot of selfownings, of which he actually had the most part in, and substituted it with RTM, where scum where bad enough to slip up left and right and the final scumlynch was a *miscount by the host*.
You gave an example why your shit works, I have a counterexample why it doesn´t.
Scientifically speaking his plan was never waterproof and he just made himself believe it was.
Now Palmar has changed about every game so far, and with every game he gets fuller of himself. Of course he does change the final outcome of games, since he lives until lategame usually.
Take a note out of the book of being humble.
I don´t jugdge alignment of people that tick me of, so I can´t really say if he´s scum or not. But I do want to see him die early for a change.

##Vote: Palmar


Sandroba with his constant advising us to double lynch everyday, originally even with multiple missiles depending on claimed nightlives, really really make me think he is the conspirator. As far as I can tell there should be only 1 conspirator and after the conspirator dies we are free to nuke ourselves like no tomorrow. And I want that. I want that sooo much.

##Nuke: Sandroba
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
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