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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
July 05 2011 21:26 GMT
#381
##Vote:Operation Dunkirk
i r dumb
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
July 05 2011 21:30 GMT
#382
Based on my role I would be stupid not to choose.
##:Operation Dunkirk
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
July 05 2011 21:33 GMT
#383
Oh lol I almost forgot

##Dunkirk Operation

Also I wrote that over the course of like an hour tabbing in and out so I want to expand on my note on Kurumi.

He seems more and more scummy the more I think about what he wrote, he voted for what I think is accepted to be the worst option, one that no one else has advocated, and is the only one that has a real potential to hurt town. (Oh sure it probably won't hurt town but really, the other two have clear and only positive possibilities, that one, especially while we use nukes well as we seem to be now, could definitely have negative results) In addition his only warrant for it are two weak arguments showing why we shouldn't do the other two, he doesn't actually argue why that one is good and I think that's a sign that he know's it's suspicious to try and take away our nukes, and just doesn't want it to be obvious. But his arguments against the other two are pretty bad. Against dunkirk he just makes the claim that Axis will probably get a counter-plan, something that is not verifiable or hinted at at all, (and even if they do at least we waste their plan, but if he's scum he wouldn't want to have to waste one)

Against gunnerside he says that it takes away tomorrows campaign, and nothing I've seen indicates that just because it takes two days we lose our campaign tomorrow. (If I'm wrong about that last one please correct me and add that to reasons that dunkirk is the best choice in my above post)
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 05 2011 22:07 GMT
#384
##Dunkirk Op

clearly best options after what's been revealed
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 05 2011 22:33 GMT
#385
On July 06 2011 03:24 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 02:24 GMarshal wrote:
On July 06 2011 02:22 syllogism wrote:
Extra lives work against nukes as well, no?

No.

A nuke wipes you from the face of the earth.

Night kills are like invasions, and extra lives are additional troops/fortifications.

Nukes don't give a damn if you have a mechanized division instead of cavalry, its still going to kill you.

false.

extra lives count against missiles launched.

it will be expended if the missile is a real nuke OR a dud.

Well in this case I think veteran lives are best, I was off the mark on this one, but thats almost as good as three anti-nukes in the case of a doomsday operation, assuming the vets are still alive.

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 05 2011 22:51 GMT
#386
I think Kurumi's scum.

He's being nice, that's a scumtell for him.
Computer says mafia
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 05 2011 22:57 GMT
#387
Can we lynch palmar yet?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 05 2011 22:59 GMT
#388
On July 06 2011 07:51 Palmar wrote:
I think Kurumi's scum.

He's being nice, that's a scumtell for him.


I do agree with this tho.
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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 05 2011 23:04 GMT
#389
It would be nice if we knew how much time we've until lynch, nukes affecting deadlines is really confusing and can make people miss votes or at least be forced to vote too early
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 05 2011 23:18 GMT
#390
On July 06 2011 07:57 Mig wrote:
Can we lynch palmar yet?


That's not very nice.
Computer says mafia
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
July 05 2011 23:26 GMT
#391
There's quite a few people lurking, we should start pressuring a few of them at least.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 05 2011 23:30 GMT
#392
On July 06 2011 08:26 deconduo wrote:
There's quite a few people lurking, we should start pressuring a few of them at least.


I've been guilty of this, but I've been busy all day so I've just had a chance to skim through some posts and not be very active. I should be more active this evening and (hopefully?) tomorrow, but I've got stuff to do now that I'm done school.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
July 05 2011 23:33 GMT
#393
Well, let's see, lurker-wise I'm looking at
Mataza

One post, out of nowhere suggesting existence of weird nukes. To me this stands out because it's such a strange thing to think about, unless you of course have special nukes. Later confirmed by Caller that "not all nukes are created equal", so weird nukes may indeed exist.
No other posts.
Would townies have special nukes -.^?

##Vote:Mataza
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 05 2011 23:38 GMT
#394
On July 06 2011 08:33 JeeJee wrote:
Well, let's see, lurker-wise I'm looking at
Mataza

One post, out of nowhere suggesting existence of weird nukes. To me this stands out because it's such a strange thing to think about, unless you of course have special nukes. Later confirmed by Caller that "not all nukes are created equal", so weird nukes may indeed exist.
No other posts.
Would townies have special nukes -.^?

##Vote:Mataza


That is really, really wifom, sure townies might have special nukes, pressuring him for lurking is fine and dandy (I'll even vote for it). but the possibility of having "special nukes" is not cause for killing anyone remember role =/= alignment.

That said, lets pile the death threats on, see if that causes some chatter

##Vote: Mataza
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Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
July 05 2011 23:46 GMT
#395
On July 06 2011 08:33 JeeJee wrote:
Well, let's see, lurker-wise I'm looking at
Mataza

One post, out of nowhere suggesting existence of weird nukes. To me this stands out because it's such a strange thing to think about, unless you of course have special nukes. Later confirmed by Caller that "not all nukes are created equal", so weird nukes may indeed exist.
No other posts.
Would townies have special nukes -.^?

##Vote:Mataza


Honestly I think either both sides probably have special nukes, and I don't think that he would have brought it up if he were mafia.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
July 05 2011 23:47 GMT
#396
Edit: Honestly I think both sides probably have special nukes.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 05 2011 23:47 GMT
#397
I'm not sold on it.

Mataza really overthinks everything as far as I know, he creates ideas out of thin air with no real thought behind them at all.

But, the bandwagons... they're so tempting...

##Vote Mataza
Computer says mafia
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 06 2011 00:00 GMT
#398
I'm not happy with how quite a few approached the campaign options (by the way GMarshal, do you still think Gunnerside is the best one?), but I'm going to highlight Sinani206 first as he has been lurking.
On July 06 2011 03:58 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 03:44 Caller wrote:
I will say though that not all missiles are created equal.


So scum missiles do more damage?
##Operation Gunnerside

Many players were guilty of this kind of hasty/shallow/poor analysis, but this seems particularly worrisome as it looks like an attempt to gain town cred rather than a town person voting for the best option. All nukes are lethal without nuclear resistance/extra lives and I think it's safe to assume few roles will have such perks. Thus, these "special" nukes aren't really a bigger threat than regular ones, especially as scum doesn't know who is resistant. Moreover, there's no reason to think only scum roles could have such nukes or that the campaign would prioritize "special nukes".

Sinani206 would you explain why you put so little effort into this?

Kurumi's analysis of the options was strange as well.

##vote Sinani206
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 06 2011 00:04 GMT
#399
I'm much more worried about Kurumi than Sinani206.
Computer says mafia
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 00:04 GMT
#400
Bleh, way to ninja me, syllogism, I was just about to post that I want to pressure sinani206 as a lurker. Only posts with content so far:

On July 06 2011 03:58 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 03:44 Caller wrote:
I will say though that not all missiles are created equal.


So scum missiles do more damage?
##Operation Gunnerside


Which seems nonsensical and:

On July 06 2011 04:05 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 04:00 syllogism wrote:
On July 06 2011 03:58 sinani206 wrote:
On July 06 2011 03:44 Caller wrote:
I will say though that not all missiles are created equal.


So scum missiles do more damage?
##Operation Gunnerside

What's with people making wild assumptions just to avoid voting for objectively the most pro-town campaign


Gunnerside also prevents conspirator from winning and I doubt that there are more than 3 Boreritish commanders.


Which isn't really true, as if he was worried about conspirator, Watchtower is a much better operation, and also, as we do not know the maximum number of scum nukes, Gunnerside might not do much when it comes to stopping us from reaching the radiation cap.

##Operation Dunkirk
##Vote: Sinani206


I'll help you pressure, as I was just about to mention him too :p
you gotta dance
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