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Hyaach
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Its more likely to hit a townie early in the game counting the ratio. But then again who doesn't like killing. | ||
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Post now and die in 1 hour. I'm not against killing, its just lurk and be dead is too strong an approach. But i agree a lurking townie is as good as a scum. | ||
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On June 28 2011 12:21 GMarshal wrote: Also please answer my question you said you don't want blues acting on their own discretion, how *do* you want them to act? Or were you talking exclusively about roles with KP? I was talking about roles with KP. Scummy guys should be killed when and wherever blues with KP feel like it. | ||
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On June 28 2011 14:59 youngminii wrote: Are you giving an excuse to play differently in this game than other games? Perhaps you just want to justify your actions for later in the game, it's okay I'd do it too ^_^ GM I'll answer for Dropbear. I have indeed formed an opinion of ym and it is one of utmost respect. He is such a lively fellow who takes his time to shoot fireballs at anyone and everyone who posts because as we all know, scum are particularly vulnerable to fire. He seems to be trying to weed out any and all mafia before they can get slip out of sight and cause town to kill itself. I do have one qualm about his posts though, he seems to interchange the words scum and mafia often and this bothers me. Hyaach I want you to answer me: Why did you first speak out and say "blues should not kill whoever they want" and then retract your statement by saying "blues should kill whoever they feel is scummy"? Did you get scared when we called you out on it? Did you decide not to post anymore because you've attracted too much attention? What's your opinion of me, am I a quack or am I being helpful to town? Don't forget to post your reasons, ta <3 You seem to miss my point. I came out saying action are time based and shooting into the lurker list early into the game is more likely to hit town given the ratio. I wasn't against killing scummy looking players, i was against shooting into the lurker list as and when blues with KP likes it. Yes they have a KP set for the lurker list but if you think its a use or waste power then you are wrong. you are not giving people a chance to speak up, i still stand by what i said earlier I'm not against killing, its just lurk and be dead is too strong an approach. I'd say give the lurkers a grace time to post before crossing them out. And by post i mean something that contributes, someone posting for the sake of saying "not a lurker" is deserving to get shot tho. Reading the past few pages, it seems like lurkers have lost people some games so the attention so far is devoted purely on what to do with blue's extra power on the lurker list. That route is a dead end tho, granted its making discussion but at the end of the day, blues are still gonna make their own call. But I propose DTs to use lurker checks near the end of the game. bbl | ||
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I don't have a com with me 24/7 on weekdays so my real time mafia isnt that real time . | ||
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if that is true we only have as much lurker killing power as there is vigilante: rereading | ||
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hopefully, the results are not finalized in stone yet. | ||
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Him hugging GM was bad, but it just seems like gullible townie taking a huge leap of faith on the first ray of light. TAA tunnelling him was a disadvantage to drazerk as we all know TAA's alignment now. But TAA started off drilling at GM. I think he just associated everyone that defended GM with him together. FoS GM Hiro and VisceraEyes GM soft defended hiro and quickly back off like TAA mentioned earlier. i find it wierd for someone as outspoken as him, maintains a neutral ground like his. He asked TAA to for opinions on hiro but never gave his own. In fact he has ask people for opinions and then post out his own after people gave theirs. Why be so passive if you want to take a leadership position? If you think drazerks is posting fluff. take a look at hiro's post. Its worst. All they say are "hi i'm here, too scared to take a stance" He has never post an analysis on anyone that is worth something but always comes onto the bandwagon after a few players voted. On June 29 2011 09:03 VisceraEyes wrote: I fail to see how you flipping green will prove ANYTHING about GM. You could just as easily be wrong about GM. However, if you flip RED, it's unlikely that GM is town...but I wouldn't lynch him based on that alone. Dealing in absolutes is very scummy to me. Just sayin. Back to reading. -.- blanket statements everywhere. Covering both side of the spectrum so he can always fall back if shit blows up. still waiting for the analysis too VisceraEyes so i'm gonna ##Vote hiro protagonist | ||
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Your grab at VisEyes is all about his style of playing the game which i have no knowledge off. Thus I'm willing to let him build his case first I've looked at VisEyes' post and hiro's post. Both promised scumhunting one way or another but both fell short of their promise. They are actually posting the same way too. Blanket statements or just saying the obvious. The only difference between hiro and VisEye in relation to GM is hiro stop all association with GM after being called out for it while VisEye seems to try to put GM into the spotlight On June 28 2011 16:20 VisceraEyes wrote: @Sandroba GM fully admits to subscribing to a controversial stance that he'll catch flack for. Don't you think he'd be toning it down a bit on the lurker-hunt if he were scum? On June 28 2011 16:06 VisceraEyes wrote: I almost said something about that GM, as you seem like the type to diversify your vocabulary.  Who do YOU feel is disrupting town so far? On June 28 2011 14:54 VisceraEyes wrote: GM, the whole idea of you making a list like that is to discuss it. I'm not attacking you, so there isn't anything to defend. I disagreed with your choice and I made my opinion known. If you're gonna step up to bat, be ready to swing sir...that's all I'm sayin. If we as a town are going to follow you (don't you even pretend you're not bucking for town leadership at this point ), I for one want to make absolutely sure there's no ulterior motive behind the things you say. Call me paranoid, but I trusted BC in PTP and it bit me in the ass...in a big way.On June 28 2011 14:54 VisceraEyes wrote: GM, the whole idea of you making a list like that is to discuss it. I'm not attacking you, so there isn't anything to defend. I disagreed with your choice and I made my opinion known. If you're gonna step up to bat, be ready to swing sir...that's all I'm sayin. If we as a town are going to follow you (don't you even pretend you're not bucking for town leadership at this point ), I for one want to make absolutely sure there's no ulterior motive behind the things you say. Call me paranoid, but I trusted BC in PTP and it bit me in the ass...in a big way.Meh, FoS Hiro ## Vote :VisceraEyes | ||
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last quote should have been On June 29 2011 09:03 VisceraEyes wrote: I fail to see how you flipping green will prove ANYTHING about GM. You could just as easily be wrong about GM. However, if you flip RED, it's unlikely that GM is town...but I wouldn't lynch him based on that alone. Dealing in absolutes is very scummy to me. Just sayin. Back to reading. -.- | ||
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I would like to know why do you not like Hiro as a lynch target. | ||
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Chaos13 came out ~12 hours after day 2 started, with pressure on YM saying he was suspicious of YM from day. But it seem to me he did not investigate YM as his case against YM wasn't strong. All he did was approve on syllo's post and threw a weak FoS on YM. This then drawed out gtrsrs, who kept diverting attention away from the YM pressure onto somewhere else On July 02 2011 00:51 gtrsrs wrote: i don't think youngmini is a good lynch at all i still think we should hit the sinani that didn't sub out, which i think is sinani201, or GMarshal. the proposed method of dealing with GMarshal seems like it will work fine so to me, sinani201 is the target of choice Why target 201? is it because you've so many post in this thread but not even 1 that showed some depth? All your post are either fact stating or random chit chat. So you just decided to divert attention onto someone who had been pressured previously? On June 30 2011 13:46 gtrsrs wrote: i am popping back in to post and show that i am not a vigilante because i would have gunned GM down as soon as the day flipped if i was el oh el On June 30 2011 14:05 gtrsrs wrote: i notice torqez didn't make the lurker list, but i don't remember seeing him post or vote? what what what's the dealio? On July 02 2011 05:07 gtrsrs wrote: well then do we have 3 detectives or do we lynch viscera today Just lots of post like this to avoid the lurker list. On June 30 2011 11:01 gtrsrs wrote: oh ok well in that case i believe you 100% and my suspicions have been lifted! So why applied pressure back on 201 when you had your only suspicious lifted? Because YM(your GF) got pressured? On June 29 2011 02:38 gtrsrs wrote: okay good morning seattle read through everything, as to be expected it's just a bunch of day 1 bullshit well, it *was*, til i got to page ~14 here's what i noticed >GM trying to take charge of the town like a bauss >GM essentially forcing people to post how he wants them to post (i.e. there will be no more lists, etc) >more GM posts >some weak FoS's >TheAwesomeAll calls GM out for being contradictory >GM votes OMGUS on TAA >some scum try to cover the whole deal up with spam and bandwagons and false FoS >TAA tries to bring the discussion back onto GM and is ignored again so it seems to me that the mafia wants to keep GM alive. this could be for one of two reasons: 1. he's mafia, hyuk 2. his tyrannical posting has made him LOOK like mafia and they want to use him as a scapegoat if i were a role-having townie i execute my role on GM for sure alas i am not. and i don't really support a lynch on him til we can get more reads. he claims to be an good player so i will let him give me more time to back up this claim. but for now i have a mild FoS on GM. he feels like a good day 2/3 vote to me. also GM, something to note, putting ^_^ after every paragraph doesn't make you a townie just ftr unfortunately i must vote for someone. so i'm gonna put my vote on palmar like i said, the mafia covered up the attention on GM with some weak accusations and an attempted bandwagon. they even spelled it out for us. so with that in mind, ##vote: palmar On June 30 2011 13:46 gtrsrs wrote: i am popping back in to post and show that i am not a vigilante because i would have gunned GM down as soon as the day flipped if i was el oh el why keep repeating the fact you are not blue? Not very townie like behaviour because you would want to take a shot for the team then. Bear in mind he has voted only on Palmer and GM. | ||
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@gtrsrs On July 02 2011 00:52 gtrsrs wrote: and actually the case against hiro is pretty decent so i'd be willing to throw down a hiro vote you dont see to have too much of a problem jumping into any bandwagon. On June 30 2011 14:13 gtrsrs wrote: yeah, this it's like, drazerk just tried the martyring strategy and it didn't work at all now you're trying it? think second time is a charm? stop begging for hits (that won't come) and go bus your teammates some so we know who to lynch on day 3 Is GM next on the mafia lynching plate? You're only analysis was a reply to YM after your supposedly sarcastic reply to 201's post. In which you discussed about GM again. Wiped mud on Palmar's pretty pro-town play by not taking a clear stance and leave his alignment hanging in suspense . And then lastly try to help VE get a firm solid hold on his DT claim On June 30 2011 13:54 youngminii wrote: GTRSRS HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT GMARSHAL? WHAT ARE YOUR OPINIONS ON PALMAR'S CONSTANT VOTE SWITCHING? DO YOU THINK VISCERAEYES COULD BE SCUM AND TRYING SOME GOSU STRATEGY? i hope the caps created a sense of urgency for your caffeinated brain On June 30 2011 14:01 gtrsrs wrote: the caps have put me into a heightened sense of focus, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO FRY EGGS, I MUST EXPLAIN MY THOUGHTS NOW i think i've explained how i feel about GMarshal pretty well. TAA was onto something early, GMarshal acted in a very scummy way, but he has a "rep" which lets him slide with that kind of bullshit. my scumbell was ding ding dingalinging when he pulled the "oh yeah, i wasn't really suspicious of TAA, i was just gauging reactions" card. he's doing essentially what iGrok did in XL, which is to be all haughty and beg for others' opinions of him and DT checks (which he knows will come back green as he is the godfather). he's now softclaimed vigi and hardclaimed vet, but still hasn't taken a shot. every second that passes makes me think he's mafia tbh. Drazerk's buddy-buddying isn't helping his case either as you can see from my first vote, palmar was my first suspect for mafia. i felt he had a very scummy statement leading into hopping on a bandwagon. he's since become a much stronger pro-town player - but i don't know if that's because (a)i called him out on his scumminess, (b)he saw a chance to hop on a noobscum with a bus, or (c)he actually is town and wants to lead. i'm leaning towards (c) but i won't rule out either of the other two. i read through all of PTP and he was a very passionate, active, albeit not always correct player. he seems to be just as gung-ho in this game so i'm fine with him taking the wheel for now. as long as scum keep popping up, i don't care how many people he votes for. as the game progresses, he'll obviously make a good DT check target the longer he stays in the "head boy" position nope - visceraeyes seems legit to me. 2 legit. 2 legit 2 quit. i was forced into a roleclaim on d1 of SNMMIV so i sympathize for him. now that you've pointed out it could be a strategy that will be on the back of my mind, but again, as long as we keep flipping mafia instead of greens on lynches, i'm fine with him being alive for now. MORE QUESTIONS | ||
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I have a feeling no one can pop my tomorrow either. so yeah good luck with that | ||
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DropBear was killed by a vig Kenpachi died to Varp's bomb. Varp died (2nd mafia kill) Lania died to Lurker list bomb. Sandroba died (first mafia kill)\ Chaos13 (3rd mafia kill) | ||
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it could be 7 for all we know | ||
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I'll place my placeholder vote on Eiii . I'm fine with lynching him today. But if YM doesn't suicide by tomorrow, him and GM are next on my plate. I'm willing to let Palmar slide when there's better lynch | ||
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