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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On June 30 2011 10:18 youngminii wrote: FUCK THAT VIG KILL GM NO DOUBT, NO HESITATION kill DT day 1? HAH Its the logical response dude. EVERY SINGLE VET (that is good) will agree with me here. Its how its done, go see the game where it happened to Ace. Yes he was scum, the logic is still bulletproof. But go ahead fucking vig me. I dare you. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
Did you seriously think VisceraEyes was playing scummy? Think very carefully and reflect upon these words: He is not the one that played badly. YOU are. | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On June 30 2011 10:20 youngminii wrote: Also, huge /facepalm on town for forcing a DT roleclaim. Did you seriously think VisceraEyes was playing scummy? Think very carefully and reflect upon these words: He is not the one that played badly. YOU are. Okay! I led this and I'll take the blame then. I must be terrible at this game. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On June 30 2011 10:19 Sinani201 wrote: If Drazerk flips red then the Mafia will surely kill Viscera by tomorrow. It would be too dangerous for them to let him live. If he is not dead by tomorrow then he is either Mafia or the Mafia is "painting" him red by keeping him alive, in which we give him time for one more supposed investigation before letting a compulsive vig shoot him down. And if he is scum he'll claim he was rbed, and live in this happy world of "oh I is confirmed town". I'm not going to argue over it, you people aren't going to agree with me, and for today I'm going to fuck the correct play to go with what makes sense to me. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On June 30 2011 10:13 GMarshal wrote: Sure thing. When a DT claims day 1 there are a few possibilities. 1.) He is scum, and is trying to establish himself as town and his target is red 2.) He is a DT as he claims 3.) He is scum and his target is green, this is a form of damage control Say we hang his claimed target first, and he flips red. Now we have to sit here and spend a whole day or more wifoming about is he scum busing a team mate to become a "confirmed" townie and lead us astray? Is he a DT and we need to follow his commands? Why isn't the mafia shooting/rbing him? We lynch the DT first and we know for sure what Drezaks alignment is, and we avoid the whole shenanigans with not knowing what VE is. Looking over VE's posts they make some sense for a new blue, but this is still the proper way to handle DT claims day 1 and 2. That isn't the case. If you lynch VE and VE flips red, drazerk could still be either red or green, depending on if it is possibility (1) or (3). If you lynch drazerk and he flips red, VE is either red or dt. There's no increase in certainty either way. Either way, if one flips red, you can have the discussion about whether it was a bus. Policy lynching the dt doesn't make sense, and yes for the record, the two times I have seen Ace push this policy were when he was scum (Sleeper Cell if you want a recent reference). You lynch based on whether you believe the claim. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
Nup, no one will agree with you unless it's a closed setup. Only very special circumstances or game setup would justify a DT lynch, which I still would not agree with. Have fun dying, you are almost definitely the GF. | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
Say we lynch Drazerk and he flips red, though. Mafia then have a confirmed DT to shoot or roleblock as they see fit. We lynch Viscera and he flips red, and scum gain nothing new. Either way viscera ends up dead or useless. I feel it is more likely that Drazerk is town than Viscera is, so I will leave my vote. Compulsive Vigilante(s) - be ready to use your shot as soon as day 2 begins before you have a chance to be killed or roleblocked if it turns out that Viscera flips DT. I say one-shot vigi's save their bullets, because this way the compulsives can put their shot to better use than they would otherwise. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On June 30 2011 10:22 youngminii wrote: That last post was directed at anyone who was sheeping along with Viscera's lynch by the way. Nup, no one will agree with you unless it's a closed setup. Only very special circumstances or game setup would justify a DT lynch, which I still would not agree with. Have fun dying, you are almost definitely the GF. How about this then, if I'm not the town vigis you. For giggles. My first game where I dont die early in a long time and I get this type of shit. Whats hilarious is that if I were scum I would have sheeped the DT the moment he claimed, and let someone else point out that logic, but w/e. Vigi away, it won't change anything, but provide a dead townie. | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
Your two-faced approach to the 'lynch the dt' policy is just making you seem more scummy to me. | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
On June 30 2011 10:22 GMarshal wrote: And if he is scum he'll claim he was rbed, and live in this happy world of "oh I is confirmed town". I'm not going to argue over it, you people aren't going to agree with me, and for today I'm going to fuck the correct play to go with what makes sense to me. If he says that then we can kill him, plain and simple. Unless the compulsive vigs have something else in mind. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On June 30 2011 10:25 GGQ wrote: Yeah when I said before that I didn't really like any of the lynch candidates, GM was the person I had in my head as my ideal lynch candidate. If no vig is bold enough to shoot him, I hope hatters will at least set their bombs on him. Your two-faced approach to the 'lynch the dt' policy is just making you seem more scummy to me. Sure thing. I pointed out what the right approach is, i didn't endorse following it, I merely indicated what it is. Please Vigi, shoot me tomorrow. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
I just realised there's no point shooting him if VisceraEyes is lying ^_^ | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On June 30 2011 10:28 GMarshal wrote: Sure thing. I pointed out what the right approach is, i didn't endorse following it, I merely indicated what it is. Please Vigi, shoot me tomorrow. Cool then we agree. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On June 30 2011 10:29 youngminii wrote: Yeah, Vig you should shoot GM if Drazerk flips red. I just realised there's no point shooting him if VisceraEyes is lying ^_^ I hope that's obvious  | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
GMarshal, what the hell are you talking about? Maybe in a closed setup like CCM, but here? I also love how the logic is taken from ace when he was scum. it's cool scum logic. Nobody listen to him please. ##unvote VisceraEyes ##vote Drazerk | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
Of course he could be lying to save himself another day. If Drazerk doesn't flip red then we vigi/lynch ViscEyes. Problem fucking solved. On June 30 2011 10:24 GMarshal wrote: How about this then, if I'm not the town vigis you. For giggles. My first game where I dont die early in a long time and I get this type of shit. Whats hilarious is that if I were scum I would have sheeped the DT the moment he claimed, and let someone else point out that logic, but w/e. Vigi away, it won't change anything, but provide a dead townie. GM are you shitting us right now?? Last game I played with you: PTP. You were a part of the last 4 remaining. GM pulled the same bullshit he's trying to pull right now. He's not afraid of dying, he's even challenging us to kill him. He's pretty much martyring himself JUST LIKE DRAZERK. Frankly I think lynching/shooting GM on Day 2 is not a bad idea. | ||
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