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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 30 2011 01:20 GMT
#781
On June 30 2011 10:18 youngminii wrote:
FUCK THAT

VIG KILL GM

NO DOUBT, NO HESITATION

kill DT day 1? HAH

Its the logical response dude. EVERY SINGLE VET (that is good) will agree with me here. Its how its done, go see the game where it happened to Ace. Yes he was scum, the logic is still bulletproof.

But go ahead fucking vig me. I dare you.
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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 30 2011 01:20 GMT
#782
Also, huge /facepalm on town for forcing a DT roleclaim.

Did you seriously think VisceraEyes was playing scummy? Think very carefully and reflect upon these words:

He is not the one that played badly. YOU are.
lalala
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 30 2011 01:21 GMT
#783
If the Mafia# is odd, does their KP round up or down? (if the # is 5, is the KP 2 or 3)
Enjoy your day.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 30 2011 01:21 GMT
#784
On June 30 2011 10:20 youngminii wrote:
Also, huge /facepalm on town for forcing a DT roleclaim.

Did you seriously think VisceraEyes was playing scummy? Think very carefully and reflect upon these words:

He is not the one that played badly. YOU are.


Okay!

I led this and I'll take the blame then.

I must be terrible at this game.
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 30 2011 01:22 GMT
#785
And I'll totally submit to whomever you guys want me to check too. Whatever it takes...just KILL THAT SCUM!!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 30 2011 01:22 GMT
#786
On June 30 2011 10:19 Sinani201 wrote:
If Drazerk flips red then the Mafia will surely kill Viscera by tomorrow. It would be too dangerous for them to let him live.

If he is not dead by tomorrow then he is either Mafia or the Mafia is "painting" him red by keeping him alive, in which we give him time for one more supposed investigation before letting a compulsive vig shoot him down.

And if he is scum he'll claim he was rbed, and live in this happy world of "oh I is confirmed town". I'm not going to argue over it, you people aren't going to agree with me, and for today I'm going to fuck the correct play to go with what makes sense to me.

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 30 2011 01:22 GMT
#787
And yeah, I totally agree with getting rid of GM now.
Computer says mafia
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 30 2011 01:22 GMT
#788
On June 30 2011 10:13 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 10:09 GGQ wrote:
On June 30 2011 10:07 GMarshal wrote:
On June 30 2011 10:04 Palmar wrote:
On June 30 2011 09:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
*slowclap* Congratulations Palmar, you've successfully led a lynch of a townie. Your leadership skills are....astounding.

Oh, I guess before I die I should go ahead and claim.

I am a Detective, and I've had a guilty on Draz since I posted my analysis. I'm sorry that I had to come out like this, but you guys are about to make the biggest mistake of the game and I figured something had to be done.

For the record, this is why I've been inactive. This is literally the FIRST time I've been given a meaningful power-role that didn't involve dying, so I didn't want to fuck it up. And with the blue-sniping of XLII, I was scared SHITLESS to post. But I can assure you, Drazerk is guilty, and HE should be hanging today, not me.


By the way, for future reference if you're telling the truth, please, please don't try to play differently when you're blue.

Just play completely normally.

So, you think he is lying?

Actually this is a day 1 claim, isn't it. As per Ace's logic we then lynch the dt. Sorry VE, but flipping drezak first tells us nothing about your alignment, while flipping you first reveals both yours and Drezaks. If you do flip DT we vigi Drezak first thing tomorrow morning.



Please explain why this is the case.


Sure thing. When a DT claims day 1 there are a few possibilities.

1.) He is scum, and is trying to establish himself as town and his target is red
2.) He is a DT as he claims
3.) He is scum and his target is green, this is a form of damage control

Say we hang his claimed target first, and he flips red. Now we have to sit here and spend a whole day or more wifoming about is he scum busing a team mate to become a "confirmed" townie and lead us astray? Is he a DT and we need to follow his commands? Why isn't the mafia shooting/rbing him?

We lynch the DT first and we know for sure what Drezaks alignment is, and we avoid the whole shenanigans with not knowing what VE is. Looking over VE's posts they make some sense for a new blue, but this is still the proper way to handle DT claims day 1 and 2.


That isn't the case. If you lynch VE and VE flips red, drazerk could still be either red or green, depending on if it is possibility (1) or (3). If you lynch drazerk and he flips red, VE is either red or dt.

There's no increase in certainty either way. Either way, if one flips red, you can have the discussion about whether it was a bus. Policy lynching the dt doesn't make sense, and yes for the record, the two times I have seen Ace push this policy were when he was scum (Sleeper Cell if you want a recent reference). You lynch based on whether you believe the claim.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 30 2011 01:22 GMT
#789
That last post was directed at anyone who was sheeping along with Viscera's lynch by the way.

Nup, no one will agree with you unless it's a closed setup. Only very special circumstances or game setup would justify a DT lynch, which I still would not agree with.

Have fun dying, you are almost definitely the GF.
lalala
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
June 30 2011 01:24 GMT
#790
Eh, I'm willing to trust VE is DT. Keepin' my vote on draz.
:3
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
June 30 2011 01:24 GMT
#791
Hmm. This is quite a dilemma. On one hand, I want to avoid lynching a DT. On the other, I think he is lying and scum. My first instinct is that Viscera is lying.
Say we lynch Drazerk and he flips red, though. Mafia then have a confirmed DT to shoot or roleblock as they see fit. We lynch Viscera and he flips red, and scum gain nothing new.
Either way viscera ends up dead or useless. I feel it is more likely that Drazerk is town than Viscera is, so I will leave my vote.

Compulsive Vigilante(s) - be ready to use your shot as soon as day 2 begins before you have a chance to be killed or roleblocked if it turns out that Viscera flips DT. I say one-shot vigi's save their bullets, because this way the compulsives can put their shot to better use than they would otherwise.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 30 2011 01:24 GMT
#792
On June 30 2011 10:22 youngminii wrote:
That last post was directed at anyone who was sheeping along with Viscera's lynch by the way.

Nup, no one will agree with you unless it's a closed setup. Only very special circumstances or game setup would justify a DT lynch, which I still would not agree with.

Have fun dying, you are almost definitely the GF.

How about this then, if I'm not the town vigis you. For giggles.

My first game where I dont die early in a long time and I get this type of shit. Whats hilarious is that if I were scum I would have sheeped the DT the moment he claimed, and let someone else point out that logic, but w/e. Vigi away, it won't change anything, but provide a dead townie.
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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 30 2011 01:25 GMT
#793
Yeah when I said before that I didn't really like any of the lynch candidates, GM was the person I had in my head as my ideal lynch candidate. If no vig is bold enough to shoot him, I hope hatters will at least set their bombs on him.

Your two-faced approach to the 'lynch the dt' policy is just making you seem more scummy to me.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 30 2011 01:26 GMT
#794
On June 30 2011 10:22 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 10:19 Sinani201 wrote:
If Drazerk flips red then the Mafia will surely kill Viscera by tomorrow. It would be too dangerous for them to let him live.

If he is not dead by tomorrow then he is either Mafia or the Mafia is "painting" him red by keeping him alive, in which we give him time for one more supposed investigation before letting a compulsive vig shoot him down.

And if he is scum he'll claim he was rbed, and live in this happy world of "oh I is confirmed town". I'm not going to argue over it, you people aren't going to agree with me, and for today I'm going to fuck the correct play to go with what makes sense to me.


If he says that then we can kill him, plain and simple. Unless the compulsive vigs have something else in mind.
Enjoy your day.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 30 2011 01:28 GMT
#795
On June 30 2011 10:25 GGQ wrote:
Yeah when I said before that I didn't really like any of the lynch candidates, GM was the person I had in my head as my ideal lynch candidate. If no vig is bold enough to shoot him, I hope hatters will at least set their bombs on him.

Your two-faced approach to the 'lynch the dt' policy is just making you seem more scummy to me.

Sure thing. I pointed out what the right approach is, i didn't endorse following it, I merely indicated what it is.

Please Vigi, shoot me tomorrow.
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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 30 2011 01:29 GMT
#796
Yeah, Vig you should shoot GM if Drazerk flips red.

I just realised there's no point shooting him if VisceraEyes is lying ^_^
lalala
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 30 2011 01:29 GMT
#797
On June 30 2011 10:28 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 10:25 GGQ wrote:
Yeah when I said before that I didn't really like any of the lynch candidates, GM was the person I had in my head as my ideal lynch candidate. If no vig is bold enough to shoot him, I hope hatters will at least set their bombs on him.

Your two-faced approach to the 'lynch the dt' policy is just making you seem more scummy to me.

Sure thing. I pointed out what the right approach is, i didn't endorse following it, I merely indicated what it is.

Please Vigi, shoot me tomorrow.


Cool then we agree.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 30 2011 01:29 GMT
#798
On June 30 2011 10:29 youngminii wrote:
Yeah, Vig you should shoot GM if Drazerk flips red.

I just realised there's no point shooting him if VisceraEyes is lying ^_^


I hope that's obvious
Computer says mafia
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 30 2011 01:29 GMT
#799
I'll buy the roleclaim. Drazerk's as good a lynch as viscera would have been anyways, no use lynching a claimed dt.

GMarshal, what the hell are you talking about? Maybe in a closed setup like CCM, but here? I also love how the logic is taken from ace when he was scum. it's cool scum logic. Nobody listen to him please.

##unvote VisceraEyes
##vote Drazerk
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
June 30 2011 01:36 GMT
#800
First off, WTF is with all the talk about killing a self-claimed DT? Are you fucking serious?
Of course he could be lying to save himself another day. If Drazerk doesn't flip red then we vigi/lynch ViscEyes. Problem fucking solved.


On June 30 2011 10:24 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 10:22 youngminii wrote:
That last post was directed at anyone who was sheeping along with Viscera's lynch by the way.

Nup, no one will agree with you unless it's a closed setup. Only very special circumstances or game setup would justify a DT lynch, which I still would not agree with.

Have fun dying, you are almost definitely the GF.

How about this then, if I'm not the town vigis you. For giggles.

My first game where I dont die early in a long time and I get this type of shit. Whats hilarious is that if I were scum I would have sheeped the DT the moment he claimed, and let someone else point out that logic, but w/e. Vigi away, it won't change anything, but provide a dead townie.


GM are you shitting us right now?? Last game I played with you: PTP. You were a part of the last 4 remaining.
GM pulled the same bullshit he's trying to pull right now. He's not afraid of dying, he's even challenging us to kill him. He's pretty much martyring himself JUST LIKE DRAZERK.

Frankly I think lynching/shooting GM on Day 2 is not a bad idea.
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