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youngminii
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On June 28 2011 21:29 syllogism wrote: This should go without saying, but don't post information regarding what you intend to use as a scum tell later on. A good player doing just that warrants a FoS. ironic | ||
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youngminii
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don't worry about palmar though, he's always like this i can only think of gmarshal as the best dt candidate for now okay i'm gonna head off now i'll be back when i wake up | ||
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youngminii
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If you are referring to your first post, I don't see how you can say your post was of substance when all you really said was "okay you can do this but then you can do that so I'm not sure what you should really do so you can just ignore all that if you want to" It's a bunch of WIFOM packed into a post that looked like content. You suggested we should coordinate who the Vig hits which is nonsense since it just gives scum extra sway into the vote while a Vig that relies on his own thinking is 100% sure that he's not being driven by scummy intentions. You're never going to find scum when your idea is to find someone that's posting seemingly too much, everyone knows this. My vote is going to you now. | ||
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On June 29 2011 00:23 syllogism wrote: Furthermore, you should read your own post history and attempt to find things that are "worth anything" and could be characterized as scum hunting. Hint: there's nothing to be found. This is not OMGUS, it's just a statement of a fact and as you know, 12 hours into day 1 is hardly when any decent analysis is to be expected. You're right. Let's just all post blanket statements since there's clearly nothing we can do on Day 1. Orrrrrr we can actually do something and maybe that will be cause for analysis for LATER and give us information for LATER. What do you think of GMarshal? Do you think TAA has any justification in his accusations? | ||
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youngminii
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The Palmar lynch I can completely understand. He's terrible yada he likes bandwagons he just wants to kill people etc. I KNOW This is his town play. Sure, there's a possibility that he's mafia and he's hiding behind his regular town meta (unlikely) but this is just him, you can't do anything about that. In fact, I've heard his scum play is excellent (never seen it myself), if so why would he post like a poor town? Anyway, between hiro drazerk syllo I'm gonna go with syllo. I firmly believe that both hiro and syllo are scum at this very moment, drazerk's posts are too shallow to make a judgement out of. For syllo, some of you are arguing that his first post about helping direct blues should relieve him as that is clearly town favoured. Wrong, go read that post again, it's a very heavily veiled post that doesn't actually help anyone. Do you really think a medic won't know that the last 6 hours of a day is unhittable? What syllo does is point this out, then says but medics shouldn't save straight away because scum will hit in the 6 hours before the last 6, but then it's up to the medics because if we tell them what to do scum will abuse it etc. etc. Then in the next paragraph he completely nullifies everything he said by saying "But nah, you can ignore everything I said if you want". Just remember, lots of scum like to make a huge 'helpful' post at the start to appear as townie as they can. I've seen this first hand. Every post he has made until Palmar calling him out has been extremely neutral and unhelpful to the town cause. As soon as Palmar gets to him, syllo OMGUS votes Palmar? Yeah and there was the whole EXTREMELY WEAK hiro voting for syllo for 'pressure' and after like a one liner from syllo hiro backs off. Best candidate, by far. Easily. | ||
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youngminii
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Do not bring shit from outside the game unless it is meta related. I expect anything about them to be ignored from here on in. | ||
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On June 29 2011 13:31 Varpulis wrote: Bloody hell, you just don't stop, do you? Could you actually go read that big post about mechanics, and honestly tell me if you, as a mafia member, would post that just to gain town cred? Gonna say it again. It wasn't helpful. It was a whole bunch of WIFOM. Mafia like making a huge post that looks helpful to gain town cred. Seriously, can you actually re-read it please? | ||
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youngminii
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What syllo posted wasn't helpful to medics/blues in a strategical or tactical manner, which is what blues usually fail at. What he posted was semantics about the time restrictions, basically the real time aspects of it. The real time aspects were simple as shit to figure out, in essence what he said is this (for the medic part, which he ended up saying "you can ignore if you want" anyway). A medic protects someone for 36 hours. No one can be hit in the last 6 hours. Therefore, a medic should protect someone in the first 42 hours of each day. DO YOU REALLY think there's someone stupid enough not be able to figure that out on their own? | ||
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that's all you need | ||
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If you go back and read his posts he explicitly says "DT don't bother checking GM, if he's scum he's definitely GF so it would be a waste". To which I agree. Hence Drazerk is our best target. You can argue on whether or not he checked him but it doesn't really matter, he's the best target going on from the information we have. If you don't agree then there's either something seriously wrong with you or you're scum, plain and simple. In any case, he tunneled Drazerk pretty damn hard, I didn't agree with his opinions at all but here we are. | ||
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youngminii
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Could he have just tunneled Drazerk without a check? Yes. But it's just as likely that he did check him, we don't know for sure. What I'm trying to say is, Drazerk is the most logical lynch based on the information we have. You seriously want to lynch VisceraEyes for his somewhat questionable actions? It's not THAT scummy to prioritise him over the guy that the DT was gunning for. | ||
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I said I wouldn't vote him if it was just based on the analysis against him. However, with the whole DT thing I believe his lynch would be completely justified. @syllo, I somewhat agree and I was considering whether or not my vote on him is justified (I still think it is) and then I came across this: On June 29 2011 08:56 Drazerk wrote: Well looks like I am dead, At least when I am dead ill flip green Proving GM is innocent. Was bound to happen as I am always day 1 lynch suspect. When I die you will be at a disadvantage but at least you will have a Guaranteed Townie. ( Medics better defend him don't let my death be in vain ) I'm off to bed I am sick of this "nah i'm dead anyway i'm off see ya" attitude. I've been seeing this far too often lately and I'll be more than happy to policy lynch this. People speak of creating pro-town conditions? This is just about as anti-town as you can get. This attitude where you roll over and die is absolutely unacceptable. We have to create a town meta where this will get punished, just like lurkers getting policy lynched and what not. tl;dr kill drazerk | ||
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On June 30 2011 02:50 sandroba wrote: Okay, half your analysis is based on other players aligment. Let me say this, if you think GM or whoever else is scum go ahead and vote for him. The fact that Drazerk defended GM says nothing. Every aligment has resons to defend town/scum (they trully believe they are town / defending teamates/ gaining town cred). They way he went about defending GM gets him town points in my book even if GM is scum. Only the first post you quoted I agree it can be interpreted as scum behaviour, but I don't think it's soliid enough to warrant this huge quickforming bandwagon. fuck yeah you are the towniest motherfucker in this entire thread hi5 palmar i wish you'd just stick to one guy, other than that i've enjoyed your more recent posts let me ask you this if we lynch visceraeyes and he flips red, what information do we gain? am i suddenly scum because chaos13 linked us together? i hardly think so if we lynch drazerk and he flips red, dear god we have a ton of information, syllo is under fire, gm is under fire, lots of the people that are on the viscera train are under fire then again, based on recent games they're both probably non-red lawlawlawl remember: lynching based on analysis on day 1 is relatively difficult and pretty luck based, i'm a lot more comfortable following a possible dt check | ||
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VIG KILL GM NO DOUBT, NO HESITATION kill DT day 1? HAH | ||
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Did you seriously think VisceraEyes was playing scummy? Think very carefully and reflect upon these words: He is not the one that played badly. YOU are. | ||
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youngminii
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Nup, no one will agree with you unless it's a closed setup. Only very special circumstances or game setup would justify a DT lynch, which I still would not agree with. Have fun dying, you are almost definitely the GF. | ||
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I just realised there's no point shooting him if VisceraEyes is lying ^_^ | ||
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youngminii
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I can't see him EVER doing that as a solid townie who actually wants to win the game. Target identified. Shoot on sight. Also, RoL played horribly in XLII (sorry RoL!) and you know that. Don't try to bullshit your way out of the situation you created for yourself. Even your 'advice' to the Vigs is null. Vig shots never overlap, it's ALWAYS first come first serve and you know that. | ||
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