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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 20:48 GMT
#763
On June 20 2011 05:35 LandenC wrote:
##Vote syllogism

stealth vote. Care to explain?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 20:57 GMT
#766
FoS LandenC for actively lurking.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 23:08 GMT
#778
On June 20 2011 08:03 ~OpZ~ wrote:
##unvote
##Vote syllogism



Yo ~OpZ~, what up with the stealth vote?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 20 2011 02:16 GMT
#801
sooo, which nice vigi would like to paint a target on hiro tonight? That's the second lynch he's dodged now.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 20 2011 04:28 GMT
#812
On June 20 2011 13:01 sandroba wrote:
RoL, why are you asking for DT checks on people on hiro's lynch while asking for a vig shot on hiro? That's like you are already assuming he will flip green. What the hell is your logic here?

...when did he ask for that? What am I missing in PM land?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 20 2011 17:58 GMT
#834
On June 20 2011 18:59 Mataza wrote:
By extension, @Varpulis, why did you find FudgeMonkey worth your vote but did not push for him at all?
Looking through his posts, it´s evident he is a worthy candidate for lynch for active lurking and only contributing when he´s personally asked to, yet you didn´t follow through?
This really worries me.

Pressure, d00d. He came through with a response, so I moved on to more pressure on RoL to actually start playing, then voted for who i had the strongest read on, Hiro. It's no use trying to lynch every person that you find scummy on the spot. I left him for another day. Is there a problem?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 21 2011 03:39 GMT
#883
##vote FudgeMunkey

FudgeMunkey has been actively lurking all game. He posts nothing of content, but instantly responded to the light pressure that I applied day 2, before going back to lurking.

He voted sinani day 1 and ROL day 2. He has yet to weigh in on any of the major lynches, or provide much of an opinion on anything.

I'll have a more detailed analysis when I'm less tired, too lazy to go through his posts now.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#902
FudgeMunkey


Since the beginning of day 2, I've had my eye on FudgeMunkey. He's been providing the bare minimum of content, avoiding doing anything he could be held accountable for, and lurking actively.

1. Content In the early game (N0) he was relatively active. Unfortunately, he was doing nothing but stating the obvious a lot. Some examples of his fluff posting are:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 14 2011 16:00 FudgeMunkey wrote:
Why are people masoning so quickly?
I thought your supposed to make sure that the person you mason is actually trustworthy rather than just mason who ever has the most posts or the biggest...
I mean who knows?
You may be masoning Mafia straight away which is kinda a waste because they may not talk back to you...
-_-


On June 14 2011 17:06 FudgeMunkey wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
because I can analyze and rape everyone in this game via PM. Now do it or you are all mafia.


In conclusion RoL hopes he can 'rape' everyone via Pms...

+ Show Spoiler +
Wow, this started quicker than I expected. That's fine with me though

Just to catch up with everything, Sandroba's plan has already been sufficiently debunked. If RoL is actually masoning with tons of people... good for him I guess? but as was pointed out with sandroba's plan, if RoL dies, all those people lose their mason connection, so... yeah, regardless, I'm not masoning with anyone AT LEAST until day, and even then, I'll probably save one of them for a few days when I have better reads on everyone.

I'm really relieved to have a PM game again, haven't been too many recently.


and yes if RoL dies you will lose your mason connection if you have chosen him so I advise that you wait at least another day or two before you mason anyone else...

Stating obvious facts, and giving basic advice to appear helpful.

Moving on to day 1, his activity goes away. He has a grand total of 1 post in day 1:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 15 2011 15:59 FudgeMunkey wrote:
Yes, I agree with 'youngminii'...
It seems as if the 'scum' never seem to support a strategy and instead find ways to make it look like its incorrect/false or just plain stupid...
They hope to make it look like the person there arguing with is obviously Scum rather than townie or Blue.

fluff.

Day 2, he posts some content (once) that is very safe and noncommittal, while night 2 he goes right back to fluff:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 20 2011 16:47 FudgeMunkey wrote:
WOW!
Three Townie dead...
These two really shouldn't of been mod killed... Aidnai and Grassgiraffe although Grassgiraffe did a whole lot of nothing...

So... guys what now?

Even after being warned to step up his posting (my clause for removing my vote day 2) He's done absolutely nothing to improve. This leads me to believe that there's a deliberate reason for his lurking, and that reason paints him scum

Oh, and did I mention that he has yet to post an opinion on anybody who has been or could have been lynched? Because he hasn't.

2. Not doing anything that he could be held accountable for FudgeMunkey has been playing it very safe this game. Every time he agrees with somebody it's a popular opinion, and his votes never end up on anybody who ends up being a lynch target, freeing him from responsibility or suspicion for bandwagoning a townie.

agreeing with popular opinions
+ Show Spoiler +

Day 1
On June 15 2011 15:59 FudgeMunkey wrote:
Yes, I agree with 'youngminii'...
It seems as if the 'scum' never seem to support a strategy and instead find ways to make it look like its incorrect/false or just plain stupid...
They hope to make it look like the person there arguing with is obviously Scum rather than townie or Blue.

Though it's tough to determine exactly what he's commenting on because his statement is so vague, I'm guessing that he's agreeing that sinani is suspicious for criticizing youngminii's analysis.

Day 2
On June 18 2011 16:38 FudgeMunkey wrote:
To DeMorcef

Show nested quote +
What bothers me the most about FudgeM is "To be completely honest I voted for Sinani because I hadn't had time to read all the posts, so yes i was 'stealth voting'". Why would a town cast a vote for (at the time) a major lynch candidate without fully reading up first; that's horrible! Should we read this as, a scum who knows sinani is town (not that I'm sure sinani is town or not), or was told by his accomplices to cast this vote, even though he hasn't had time to actually read the thread?


I understand your anger with me for not reading through the whole thread before posting, I have been busy with School work and so forth and I didn't want to get mod killed. I have read through the pages I have missed out on and I am pritty sure I'm up to date with the rest of you.



On another note,
I agree with Youngminii and VisceraEyes, RoL hasn't been putting the most useful information into this thread and the posts he ends up posting end up with him taunting the town as Youngminii stated.

+ Show Spoiler +
I had a much busier day then I thought, and I ended up going to a party 2.5 hours away last night on an hours notice. But tomorrow I will try to be much more active until I head back into new jersey for a couple of days.


Just some FYI, every day when I wake up and F5 this thread I am given a choice. I can A. Do some analysis and make sure you guys don't fuck up too bad, or B. Watch a marathon of 24. So far 24 has won the last 2 days. Maybe, just maybe if a vigi shoots Kenpachi tonight, 24 will lose the mental coin toss tomorrow.

Just some advice.


Obviously he'd rather do something else than be in this game and he is a Waste of Space...
He is obviously taunting the town to see how long he will last and so far it seems to be working, NO ONE IS VOTING FOR HIM.
Before I cast my vote into his/her basket I shall read more of the thread to make my decision final (just to make sure DeMorcef will be happy!)

Very cautiously agrees with the suspicion against ROL


Votes
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On June 16 2011 18:43 FudgeMunkey wrote:
##Vote sinani206

this was a stealth vote later on in the day, too.
On June 19 2011 09:30 FudgeMunkey wrote:
##vote RebirthOfLeGenD

bandwagoning

Neither of those people have been actual possible lynches at the end of the day


3. Active lurking Despite not posting often or at all for long stretches, FudgeMunkey responds quickly to criticisms and accusations.
On June 18 2011 13:03 FudgeMunkey wrote:
To Varpulis

Show nested quote +
FudgeMunkey, why did you feel it was necessary to explain the mechanics of KP when nobody asked about them?

Why did you vote for sinani without posting in the thread?

Why was your only comment about the lynch targets just agreeing with Youngminii about ilovejonn being scummy?

I'd like an explanation, because right now scum bells are ringing in my head.


Well I shall answer your questions.
1. I felt it was necessary to explain the mechanics of KP, because Kenpachi asked wether KP mean't KenPachi or KillPower.
Yes you are right now one asked anyone to explain the mechanics of KP, but i thought it would be nice to get it out of the way for anyone who didn't quite know what it meant.

2/3. To be completely honest I voted for Sinani because I hadn't had time to read all the posts, so yes i was 'stealth voting'. I was however going to change my vote to Grassgiraffe because he has not contributed to the town at all.
I agreed with Youngminii about voting for Sinani becuase he proved a point, Also i never actually voted for Ilovejohn...

I took my vote off with the clause that he should put as much effOrt into explaining his thoughts and actions in the future.

Also, "I was going to change to grassgiraffe" is weak. It's playing extra-safe by saying that he would have wanted to lynch the guy that almost got lynched, but didn't.
On June 21 2011 14:51 FudgeMunkey wrote:
To Varpulis

I may be have been lurking for most of the game, but at least I'm reading through most the posts and at least half contributing! Unlike other lurkers who just watch, post something so they don't get mod killed and then go back into lurking mode...

and this defense is even weaker. "sure, I've been lurking, but he's been lurking too, so it's ok."

His quick defenses and returns to lurker mode make me conclude that FudgeMunkey is scum.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#903
ROL would be a nice lynch too though, considering that he's nearly confirmed scum.

mafia has been bluesniping really well this game, and taking care of blues as soon as they found them (example: chaos13) I find it hard to believe that both a blue and his mason were hit last night.

Theory: ROL heard about Mataza being blue from sandroba, and decided to off both of them so that there'd be nobody to connect him to the hits. It would have worked if Mataza wasn't vet.

In my mind, the theory fits. No shit ROL is going to say it's stupid though.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 21 2011 19:49 GMT
#910
RoL, if you flip town, Mataza gets vigi'd and mafia have traded one for one with a townie. Your alternative circumstance is pretty lame, sorry. The "plan" that you claim that the mafia could be doing is pretty retarded, nice try though.

I'm switching my vote. Voting for anybody but RoL would be a mistake right now, but we still need to discuss other possible scum and future lynches. What does everybody think of FudgeMunkey, ~OpZ~, and LadenC? I feel confident that at least one of them is mafia.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 22 2011 15:41 GMT
#1015
I'm not sure if I'm overly trusting or just being stupid, but RoL is making a lot of sense to me. His points, coupled with BC's criticism and Mataza's lack of evidence leads me to believe that it's either a ploy by scum or a really unlucky circumstance. Also, I've been very suspicious of FudgeMunkey for a long time. If RoL vigi's him tonight, I'm content with letting him live.

FudgeMunkey half responded to my analysis, ignored RoL's, and continues to lurk and sheep.

##unvote
##vote Youngminii If he flips green I want to see RoL dead by the morning, k?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 22 2011 16:13 GMT
#1018
On June 23 2011 00:57 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 00:41 Varpulis wrote:
I'm not sure if I'm overly trusting or just being stupid, but RoL is making a lot of sense to me. His points, coupled with BC's criticism and Mataza's lack of evidence leads me to believe that it's either a ploy by scum or a really unlucky circumstance. Also, I've been very suspicious of FudgeMunkey for a long time. If RoL vigi's him tonight, I'm content with letting him live.

FudgeMunkey half responded to my analysis, ignored RoL's, and continues to lurk and sheep.

##unvote
##vote Youngminii If he flips green I want to see RoL dead by the morning, k?

you know why scum claim vig don't you

because scum can hit people
herp derp

If scum want to kill themselves, i'm cool with that. If FudgeMunkey isn't scum i'll be quite surprised.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 22 2011 16:27 GMT
#1020
Why is FudgeMunkey bored town when LandenC is scum? Do you not see the active lurking and the complete lack of response to requests to contribute? I've attempted to pressure him into activity twice. Both times he made 1 post in his defense then went back to lurking. He's scum, not bored.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 22 2011 16:30 GMT
#1021
On June 23 2011 01:20 youngminii wrote:
you have to learn to differentiate townies that just get bored of the game and scum who are barely hanging on by a thread

Oh, and don't you dare try to discredit my argument because I'm less experienced than you.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 23 2011 02:05 GMT
#1121
kill captain RoL.

He bussed FudgeMunkey, kill him too.

BC might be a nice person to kill as well.

Sorry Youngminii.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 23 2011 05:12 GMT
#1151
So we've potentially got two dt immune scum, and that's why we haven't seen any roleblocks yet? I officially declare any dt check that returns anything but scum worthless, especially if you decided to check BC or RoL.

this is disturbing, to say the least.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 24 2011 05:04 GMT
#1247
I'm dead. So sad, isn't it?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 24 2011 16:25 GMT
#1257

This will be interesting to watch.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 25 2011 00:16 GMT
#1284
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 26 2011 03:49 GMT
#1359
On June 26 2011 12:09 FudgeMunkey wrote:
HA HA HA!!!

Varpulis and all you cows!!!

Im not mafia!
I told u!!!



Oh and yeah... GG mafia!

Well, if you had actually done anything other than defend yourself whenever I called you out I might have stopped calling you mafia.

When you're being called scum for not contributing, the right response is to contribute, not say "look, those other guys are even less active.

GG mafia, I played terribly, but inactives really killed us.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
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