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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
Since I am going to go to bed shortly and I have to vote and I really don't think Amazingzidwxzyrhgbdss whatever is scum. And iGrok would rage quit if I voted for him. I'm voting for Aril because the little prick just voted for me twice and spelled my name wrong each time.  With nary a word in here. | ||
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
You first post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227500¤tpage=28#554 concluding that Jackal's analysis of rookie was not sufficient. I'm cutting this out of your post here: On June 07 2011 07:39 Vain wrote: It was true that he was asking for information but proposing that we should have a strategy doesn't really ring a scum bell for me. Then later, you switch your vote to rookie roughly an hour later saying: On June 07 2011 08:28 Vain wrote: Ok, i guess you're right. His posts didn't really contribute and now with the knowledge of that there is a thread for mafia alone freeloader isn't really a viable option too. So with that my vote will also be on Rookie for the sake of voting. 4 hours remaining but i'm going to bed so my vote is final. Goodnight Only roughly an hour passed between these two posts. During this period, rookie had not posted and no one had brought up any new reasons as to why to vote for rookie.Yet you vote for rookie on the basis that: "His posts didn't really contribute and now with the knowledge of that there is a thread for mafia alone freeloader isn't really a viable option too. " That in no way is a justification to vote to lynch someone. Simply because they didn't contribute should not justify a vote and considering that there were other candidates with significant evidence against them (which you seem to ignore), it seems highly suspicious that you jump right to rookie's vote when you earlier argued that he "didn't ring your scum bell". | ||
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Senj
United States193 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On June 10 2011 10:01 Senj wrote: Dug back through the thread for a second time with a sheet noting interesting things about iGrok and Amazingxkcd. I'll spare you all a giant wall of text as the arguments against them have already been laid out and beaten to death. However, I did find several interesting things that will hopefully bring up a little discussion. iGrok analyses Kurumi, calling him out as scum (I stand corrected on my previous defense of iGrok's analysis.) Yet says he isn't a good lynch vote. Uh... right. That's a pretty big disconnect between the words and the actions. I also find it strange that iGrok puts himself on his no-lynch list early on. Isn't that sort of a given? preservation of self and play to win. Amazingxkcd also puts an analysis of himself under his Huge Posts O' Analysis. Is that supposed to be some resounding defense of yourself? If you want, i can go completely through his post of me as my defense if you like. | ||
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Senj
United States193 Posts
How much time is left for Day 2? | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On June 10 2011 10:09 Senj wrote: I'd also like to note that tdAdonis' only post in this thread was his /in. Really man? I'm far from the most active user but if you're going to sign up for a mafia game at least post in the thread. And the host will deal with that issue. It happens in every game. A point I tried to make earlier that Amazingkidxyz turned into a scum tell. Those that don't post and don't vote are inactives and the host will modkill them. We don't have to deal with them. Those that post once or twice per cycle are lurkers. Those are the ones that need to be looked at. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On June 10 2011 10:03 Jackal58 wrote: Lulz. Since I am going to go to bed shortly and I have to vote and I really don't think Amazingzidwxzyrhgbdss whatever is scum. And iGrok would rage quit if I voted for him. I'm voting for Aril because the little prick just voted for me twice and spelled my name wrong each time. With nary a word in here.Wow guys.. this is one of the scummiest posts I've ever seen. Wishy-washy, apologetic, and leading no where. Ends off with a random useless vote. I'd say this post is far more incriminating than anything Amazing or iGrok have posted so far. Combined with analysis from Amazing (whom I believe is likely DT), I'm switching my vote to Jackal. iGrok just seems disgruntled now, he's still on the list for potential GFs, but I still think it's nowhere near solid. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
On June 10 2011 10:14 teamsolid wrote: Wow guys.. this is one of the scummiest posts I've ever seen. Wishy-washy, apologetic, and leading no where. Ends off with a random useless vote. I'd say this post is far more incriminating than anything Amazing or iGrok have posted so far. Combined with analysis from Amazing (whom I believe is likely DT), I'm switching my vote to Jackal. iGrok just seems disgruntled now, he's still on the list for potential GFs, but I still think it's nowhere near solid. I agree. But it seems to implicate both players (iGrok and Amazingxkcd) since he could easily vote for either regardless of his alignment. Considering that most people support lynching either candidate, he could have thrown his vote to either side without attracting suspicion at all. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
You guys are smarter than a toothbrush. Figure it out. | ||
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
On June 10 2011 10:20 Jackal58 wrote: I voted for Aril to make a point. You guys are smarter than a toothbrush. Figure it out. His posts consist of: a defense of freeloader. | ||
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
His posts consist of a defense of freeloader. A "sorry I can't vote now" (votes for Kurumi). A really weird description of his scripting tool. And a vote for you. Very scummy. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
:st; But mostly what you said Trance. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On June 10 2011 10:14 Senj wrote: Amazing, who's post of you? Go for it bud. How much time is left for Day 2? About an hour | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On June 10 2011 10:14 Senj wrote: How much time is left for Day 2? roughly 1 hour remains in the day. Vote count coming up shortly. edit: ninja'd | ||
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Senj
United States193 Posts
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Munk-E
United States672 Posts
On June 07 2011 06:34 amazingxkcd wrote: You seem to be in a position to defend rookie44 when he has made quite a lot of scummy posts, particularly trying to take advantage of noobs to slip up their roles with Also, notices how already from the start of the game, he is asking for roles and wanted to lynch Treadmill without any sound proof besides making a suggestion about the freeloader wagon being loaded with mafias Here, he is making assumptions about what the mafia should do, which is trying to divert attention away from him. for these reasons and the ones given by jackal58 as well as kurumi, i am voting for Rookie44 on the basis of clear scummy post and trying to divert attention away from himself with circular logic ##Vote: Rookie44 also alderan, I am very suspicious of you for trying to defend this guy. Elaborate as to why you think he is not a scum. This is xkcd's post about his vote for rookie. Note that he did vote for him within 2 minuites of senj and 5 minuites of kurumi. This is obviously not coincedence as the last accusation of him was a half hour earlier by jackal. Also very importantly note that This was posted after all 3 of them voted! Now this has to require some communication. I'm not actually sure about kurumi, because he voted first quoting jackal's argument. But the other 2 hopping on almost immediately shows that they were trying to start a bandwagon. My speculation is that jackal may be mafia, and was waiting until someone (kurumi) voted for rookie at which point his mafia buddies would strike. Both are VERY likely mafia, but I think xkcd is much more likely as he voted last. Also, this style is very different from all previous posting of his. This is his first attempt at analysis, which makes me wonder if someone else wrote it for him. This is xkcd's 1st real post 1. It is quite clear that it can be seen who are the main talkers for both side. The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it Note that he NEVER told us who he was talking about, and the fact that he mentioned people from “both sides” makes me think he KNOWS both sides. Whoever the “main talkers” are for all we know, they could all be mafia or all be town! Now look at the rest of his post “ The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it”. This is obviously just some generic “i'm not mafia” phrase tacked on to the end. He's mafia, and he's not good at it. Another interesting one On June 07 2011 10:30 amazingxkcd wrote: Ebwop; this is directed at impervious Also, drazerk is looking like a scum now that i start to evaluate him more in depth. I will do more work to see if i should switch my vote to him if impervious gives a proper response. He never did analysis of drazerk. His only real anylsis is again of rookie which furthers my suspicion that someone may have wrote it for him. On June 09 2011 02:01 amazingxkcd wrote: This is for you, aprudds, you only referenced treadmill's posts but what is your thoughts? You want me to defend myself against you when you got nothing to say about me. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tymQB.png) replying with an xkcd comic... cute, however this just shows that he is only trying to avoid having to defend himself. On June 09 2011 02:08 amazingxkcd wrote: If Jackal's reasoning wasn't strong enough and if he just wanted information, then why did he vote for rookie right away after his analysis of rookie as detailed below? A lot of other posts suggest that rookie and jackal may be in cahoots. This one suggests that jackal may be town and they took the opportunity to vote for rookie. The reason I bring this up is that this means that they wanted him to die, which they had no reason for. I am just bringing this up because the only possible reason to start a bandwagon at that point was to save freeloader. This makes me suspicious of freeloader. On June 09 2011 02:11 amazingxkcd wrote: I agree with this, and started to discuss this, but the main townies besides you aren't helping me with this. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lVa9l.png) another xkcd comic in place of content... I would say this is annoying, but it serves the purpose of showing what hes doing. He claimed to try to start a discussion, but now that he's given a chance to start it, he instead says “UGH I tried to tell you about this, but not now, you're too late!” The only reason that he would decide not to is that he changed his mind, or someone told him not to. This is another connection between him and jackal, and I think that this means that they are both mafia, or trying to use jackal as a scapegoat. His next big post is his analysis of everyone. I'll ignore most of it, but I think the most interesting part is his accusation of jackal. First thing to note is that his is the only one not spoilered. This is obviously to get attention on his accusation of him. Next he says jackal is GF, this would make us want to lynch him more! 3rd is, when he wrote this, he was getting a LOT of votes. All of these lead to either jackal being mafia, and he voted him because if he does get lynched, people would leave jackal alone. Or 2 Jackal is his scapegoat, and he's trying to get jackal lynched instead of him. On June 09 2011 13:45 amazingxkcd wrote: 1 last thing before i treuly go to sleep. This will create a shitstorm. I want all of you to watch people's reaction to my accusations to jackal. If they try to defend him without a doubt, they are trying to protect him. They are mafia scum. Do not forget. This one is just dumb of him. He is claiming all people that don't agree with him are mafia. He is only mentioning jackal again. There is definitely something between him and jackal at this point, but this post is entirely him trying to turn town against each other. On June 10 2011 02:57 amazingxkcd wrote: I am still in school, waiting for the finals to finish in 20 mins. A lot of people have been advocating for iGrok's lynch so i will take that into account. Looking at his current status, he's making memes for map threads and trying to avoid the issues against him. I will further into that when i get home from school. this one is just him trying to divert attention. He sees he has a shot at surviving today, so he jumps all over that. Every single post from that point is him attacking Grok to survive. I think it's obvious that amazingxkcd is scum. | ||
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Senj
United States193 Posts
My vote is going towards amazingxkcd. His day 1 activity, especially the first post and then several after attacking others for making fluff first posts are my basis here. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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