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I like meat. | ||
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Well, here's the thing. If someone wants to surrender that information, there's nothing we as a town can do to stop it. But they have to understand that there are inherent risks involved, such as making them a target in case maf got the role and they think people knowing about it is dangerous. Not to mention the thought of what a suspicious town can do to them if they don't believe them. Or even if they DO, imagine that. What if the town suddenly calls for that person to claim, then they start self-destructing over who has the role in question. It's just a shaky situation all-around. There are going to be instances when someone will feel compelled to claim, and I think when that time comes, we shouldn't just start throwing fingers around. | ||
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So far I'm seeing a lot of people judging from previous experience/previous games. While this leaves me feeling at a disadvantage due to only playing the one game, I also feel like I have an ADVANTAGE because I can view the thread objectively and take peoples posts at face value. That being said, I'd like to answer some questions I've seen floating about. @GM First, I think that YOU appear to be the most pro-town right now because you seem to be the MOST focused on scum-hunting. Everyone else is concerned about thread cleanliness and order, which is nice, but you appear to be one of the only people actively asking questions and trying to get telling information from anyone. Cheers. Second, I have hardly any expectations about who should and shouldn't have posted by now. The only game I've played had a few active players and a few who hardly posted anything, so it's hard to say. Going back and reading the other games isn't the same. I remember with vivid detail how long between certain responses from the game I was actively engaged in...it's different viewing it from the outside. @Palmar Given the nature of the game, I'm wary of giving you any kind of pounding of fists until I understand your role better, no offense....so don't ask. @redFF If your claim is real, I like it. Amber appears to have a lot of street cred in the mafia forums; but make sure that before you pursue any further actual action, you consider that the posting restriction might extend into the PMs you'd get to share. @everyone making lists Stop it. Unless it's a list about the happenings INSIDE THIS THREAD, I for one am NOT interested. I'm assuming EVERYONE is EQUALLY badass at this game...and as such, everyone would be on my list. If you want to make a list, make a list of instances x player contradicted himself in posts in this game...or a list of people that Palmar has tried to get a bro-fist from. These are more telling than lists of people who may or may not be good mafia members in theory. | ||
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On May 31 2011 10:22 kitaman27 wrote: meh mostly a random vote to get things started. Spammy, apologetic, and posting fluff. He tells town we should be looking elsewhere, without providing suspicions of his own. On an unrelated note, town should keep in mind that mafia has additional information than they normally do in this set-up since they know their own roles and the roles they have created. I find this point worth repeating and bolding for emphasis. Anyone who appears to be pushing someone very hard or without sufficient reason at this point should be watched very carefully. Mafia know the exact roles of at least 10 players (I don't know the exact count, but I assume it's at least 5mafia plus the 5 they created), while everyone else only knows their own and the one they created. This is a HUGE advantage that we should try and counter by taking peoples official suspicions VERY seriously. | ||
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#fistpound Palmar | ||
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Consider that my way of saying gg for SNMMII | ||
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On May 31 2011 23:06 Eternalmisfit wrote: Care to explain this sudden change of heart on two accounts: 1. Fistpounding Palmar while strongly advocating against it - scum trying to fit in as town? Or scum trying to get into a potential PM circle? 2. I thought you were only interested in what was happening in this game. Why is company 'like' GM, Node, tnkted important? They haven't done anything noteworthy as of yet in this game. Also why bring in the gg from SNMM II in this game if you think stuff from outside this game has no relevance here. Seems like you are trying too hard to be in the good books of Palmar now. Gladly. Palmar is a smart player. He plays the psychological game very well. If there were anything to fear from being fistpounded, I feel confident that he would make whomever had done it feel very safe in their fist-pounding. He hasn't done this. It's very ambiguous. It's intriguing. I hope it helps town. In case it does, I'm glad to be a part of it. If it turns out that it doesn't, I'll answer for that when the time comes. On another subject, I feel the need to go on the record and say that I'm not suspicious of Kita at this point. Is he abrasive? Sure. Confident? Absolutely. Scummy? That remains to be seen as far as I'm concerned. All I've seen so far is pointed requests to keep the thread length down and jovial little inside-jokes that are beyond me. I'm going back to reread Varp now, but nothing has really SCREAMED red to me yet. | ||
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On June 01 2011 03:21 Kurumi wrote: There's an old place,which brings unhappiness to everyone in Gotham. Inside,cold and smelly winds can be felt. The Good Ol' Bus Driva Hideout ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VyqRj.jpg) Someone must be sent there and interrogate him to get information we need. I suggest bringing some kind of weapon with Yourself,because He,can be very dangerous,care though. Even if he will look as he is unarmed,he can have a driving wheel in his pocket and redirect the bullet Matrix style. The Bro must be his secret project. Get every bit of info from him. ? I don't know what this is. I assume Kurumi is probably famous for this kind of post. | ||
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Sinani hasn't posted...like, ANYTHING. I'm literally picking up NO scum-reads at this point, and the analysis everyone else is posting is based on meta I'm not familiar with...so I'm going to pick on an inactive until something big happens. ##Vote sinani206 | ||
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Delightful! I eagerly await a post that warrants me lifting my vote from you! | ||
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I found my play-style to be too erratic last game man. Yeah, I hit on Palmar before he convinced me otherwise, but only because I was building cases from nothing. I refuse to make the same mistake. Any analysis I post in this game will be well-thought out and as free of WIFOM as I can make it. Let's take last games' example. I was tunneling Palmar HARD before his brilliant play. But before the brilliant play, who believed me? And after? What support did I have from ANYONE last game? It was fully because of the way I was analyzing last game. I'm taking a different approach this game. I'm hoping I can convince more people this game. | ||
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1) Which do you consider to be more scummy; Active Lurking or Thread Derailment? 2) During the night, who do you think is going to be a top-priority target for Mafia? 3) Given the opportunity to Bro-fist Palmar, would you do it? 4) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think has the most town cred based on this thread alone? 5) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think controls the opinions of others the most? 6) Between Palmar's frattiness and red's Masonry, who's role do you find the most interesting based on information you have now? 7) Assuming you had the entire town's ear and you know everyone would believe you, what do you want to say FIRST? If anyone doesn't feel comfortable answering my inane questions, feel free to ignore them. Everyone else, take note of who doesn't want to answer my inane questions. | ||
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Active Lurking. Thread derailment is noticeable, provable and obvious. You can actually convince town to lynch someone who's derailing threads, as there's proof to quote and discuss. Lurking allows you to see everything, analyze everything and plan. Given the right excuses and bandwagon voting, lurkers can make it to the end of a game, easily. 2) During the night, who do you think is going to be a top-priority target for Mafia? Amber[LighT] - the supposed posting restriction would have to be offset by some sort of powerful blue ability to be fair for the player. This is as good as a confirmed blue role unless Amber is AMAZINGLY clever. 3) Given the opportunity to Bro-fist Palmar, would you do it? I've done it. 4) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think has the most town cred based on this thread alone? Node, based on the fact that GM is just asking questions and BC is just making and commenting on lists. Node appears to have an opinion, and appears more green. To me. 5) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think controls the opinions of others the most? BC, because this game has several noobs who appreciate tips and being told who to be suspicious of and who to watch out for. 6) Between Palmar's frattiness and red's Masonry, who's role do you find the most interesting based on information you have now? Palmar's - Red's so far has appeared to be pretty straight-forward given everything we know about it is true and confirmed. We still don't know what Palmar's role entails...but he's making a big show of using it. 7) Assuming you had the entire town's ear and you know everyone would believe you, what do you want to say FIRST? It's going to take two shots to kill me. This survey is designed to make you think like scum. The Mafia are going to kill whoever they think is the biggest threat regardless. You guys can lynch me if you want, you've seen the questions, the answers are irrelevant. If everyone answers them, we'll have a LOT to go on as far as scum-hunting goes. If some people answer them, you'll have some to go on. If no one answers them, then mafia already won. | ||
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Right now, BloodyC0bbler is the most suspicious to me. His posts make me feel like he's speaking for the whole town, all the time. Almost as if discussions that aren't relevant to him...are scummy...period. And he's got followers, which is scary by itself. Pro-town..besides me (herp)....I'd have to say Amber. He's going to a lot of effort to contribute so far, and most of it has been relevant imo...by which I mean, I agree on most of his vaguely communicated reads so far. I also feel like Node is green. He's at least giving us his opinion, and most of it is fair that I've read. People I can't figure out... Jackal comes off as arrogant...but not so much scummy. Torte...from lack of posts primarily desk...very passionate, very adamant, very flighty GM...claimed early that he was avoiding doing pro-town things in case he's a mole. Essentially opting out of being a 'good' townie until day 3...when he knows for sure he's not a mole. This has been confirmed as feasible by...someone. What interests me is his very strict adherence to this policy. He hasn't given an opinion on anyone really, just asks questions. sandroba...knows what sandroba is doing. | ||
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Tell me this list-guy. Why do you think I'm supposedly on the dog's unverified list? I have no idea, as I'm obviously inexperienced and, as you say, terrible...but I suspect it's because he either knows my role or my alignment. | ||
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Not usually. You don't really have to be a dick, guy. I don't know what you're angry about SPECIFICALLY, but I know it doesn't have anything to do with me. | ||
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On June 01 2011 15:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I'm not angry duder. Don't take my posting to be angry unless you see mass caps and me calling you a retarded backwoods faggot or the like. I find being aggressive as I am a much better way to force people to step up than being nice about it. It also forces players into arguing. That in turn gives information that is used to analyze people. I know I come off as a dick, but if you sit back and look at what I'm doing the reason is pretty clear. It gives town information to work from, as well as helping you learn areas you need improvement in your game. We all have areas to improve, no shame in it. No, but there's a difference between being aggressive in your posting and just being insulting and rude. But whatever. Teach me how awful I am, if you think you can. And if you're alive that long. | ||
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##Vote BloodyC0bbler | ||
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@Everyone who views my survey as scummy: good job, you picked up the entire point of my survey. Anyone who thinks it looks like scum looking for advice, let me ask you this: why would I ask town for advice to hit instead of Mafia, whom I would have secret contact with? Think, people. I'm not scum. As for now, besides BloodyC0bbler, who continues to look MORE scummy to me, not less, I'm going to point out Hiro Protagonist to everyone. I'm not going to analyze him right now, as I have a plan (see above) and don't have time. | ||
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If I'm so obviously mafia baiting for information, why not vote to lynch me instead of Torte, someone who you're clearly NOT sure about? I'll tell you why. Because I'm NOT obviously mafia baiting for information. @Everyone else I don't care if ANYONE answers my survey. I thought I made that clear. If people answer my survey, it will help town as people will have more information to compare against in the future when scum-hunting. But the point wasn't for people to answer, the point was for people to THINK about the questions, which obviously people have. In the name of ceasing "derailment" (I don't agree with that assessment, but I can only imagine how many others view it as that), I'm done talking about my survey. It's out there, for better or worse. As I stated earlier, I'm now looking at Sandroba, Tackster and tnkted because those are the lynch candidates for today. I'll probably take a look at prplhz' posts too because he's now in the running. | ||
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If I die, make damn sure you guys are confident of the motives of who you follow. | ||
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Your move Mafia. | ||
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