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Give me Twinles name Decon. I want to make him the RV driver. He sits in the back drinking beer while the RV is on cruise control. He dies in a fiery crash on night one. | ||
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Will we be informed of who picked our role for us? | ||
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On May 30 2011 05:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I want a KP role plzzz You are the suicidal townie. On day three you will produce a gun and shoot yourself for towns pleasure and amusement. | ||
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1 of you has a very twisted sense of humor. Well I'm sure it's more than 1. I'm gonna go get caught up. | ||
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Claiming roles in this game is pretty pointless. You could claim pretty much anything you wanted to as long as you included a portion that was verifiable. So if you feel compelled to role claim pardon me if I'm not buying what you're selling. Oh and Amber is a good player unless DocH gets elected mayor. | ||
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I don't remember. | ||
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On May 31 2011 07:34 prplhz wrote: @GMarshal I think that Mataza is town because he is acting kinda strange like he did last game and it's very hard to fake peculiar behavior I think. I would have expected VisceraEyes to have posted more since he was very active in the beginning of SNMMII. I hope he'll start posting more! Anyway, I probably mostly focus on SNMII players because I know these guys the best. like 20 new guys I have never heard of .. This is gonna be hard for me to keep track of. You best pay attention to everybody. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles kitaman27 bumatlarge Amber[LighT] Barundar Meapak_Ziphh I'm not exactly sure what the list is supposed to accomplish but that is my list of players that scare the hell out of me if they're scum. | ||
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On May 31 2011 09:26 chaos13 wrote: redFF, I have no idea why you would have claimed that. From what you posted, you do not lynch that player, you just get to PM the player you put your vote on. You could have just done it and moved on. This leads me to think you might be scum. redFF scum, Amber scum -redFF's claim is truthful, and Amber is faking a post restriction to cause confusion. redFF uses his power on Amber so he can say that Amber has confirmed a post restriction via PM, conveniently where nobody else can see it. -redFF's claim is a lie. This one doesn't make sense unless he has a suicide role at night. It's too easy to be pointed out on Day 2 redFF scum, Amber town -redFF's claim is truthful, and he is doing this to build town cred and figure out what to do about a potentially very powerful blue redFF town, Amber scum -redFF's claim is truthful, and he is trying to figure out what is going on with Amber. It doesn't make sense to claim in the thread, however. -redFF's claim is a lie. Again, no reason to lie. redFF town, Amber town -redFF's claim is truthful and he is doing what is good for town and figuring things out. Still no reason to claim publicly So, to sum up my thoughts: 1. It doesn't make sense for both Amber and red to lie, because their rolepickers will counter-claim tomorrow. 2. It doesn't make sense for red to claim publicy if he is a townie. He just gave scum his role. 3. This thought just struck me - we can't completely trust a counter-claim either. Scum have the potential to lie about that if it would be beneficial to them. + Show Spoiler + On May 31 2011 09:20 redFF wrote: I felt like Amber was the person I should be using this role on though, and I wasn't sure how to vote him without claiming, as just voting him for talking like a dog would be kind of dumb and town doesn't need to spend 5 pages discussing if im scum because I voted for Amber with bad reasoning. I don't see an issue at this point. If he's lying we'll know tomorrow. If they're both scum I'm sure Amber is pissing on redFF's leg in their scum chat right now. | ||
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On May 31 2011 09:39 chaos13 wrote: I'm saying we should definitely consider it. A potential badass power is a huge 'what if'. And Jackal, they could both claim the roles they were actually given, so if no counterclaims come up, that doesn't mean they're town. I'm well aware of that. I have already stated that I will be taking all role claims with a giant grain of salt. It is also rare for 2 scum to so directly connect to each other. I'm more concerned with your apparent willingness to lynch Amber simply because he speaks dog. I like dogs.  | ||
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On May 31 2011 09:45 prplhz wrote: @redFF Okay I think I've been all posts through several times so please forgive me if I am wrong ... But when exactly did you vote for Amber[LighT]? I thought your role allowed you to PM people AFTER you had voted for them but it appears that you two are talking right now without you voting for him. And again, this thread is already quite big and I might have missed your vote inthere somewhere, please forgive me if that is the case. Voting thread | ||
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On May 31 2011 09:59 deskscaress wrote: ugh this thread moves wayyyy too fast for a day 1 thread. on the forum i host, our longest game was 30 pages (with ~30 players) for like a 7 day game and even then i was telling everyone they should be less spammy faggots and post more content. sooooooo many posts in this thread so far are just people parroting what other people say. can you stop posting if your post is going to contain 3 lines or less? it just makes it too easy for someone else to come in 3 pages later (when your post has already been forgotten) and say the exact same thing, like "EVERYONE NEEDS TO STOP MAKING LISTS HERP" which makes it look like they're contributing Most of my posts are always 3 lines or less. Get over yourself. | ||
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On May 31 2011 10:31 deskscaress wrote: more spam, more dilution of the thread, less chances to catch slips. i point this out, you quote it and spam some more. even if you aren't mafia (and i don't see this as a scum slip by any means), it's anti-town to spam for spamming's sake. so, why are you doing it, just to spite a new player? It's not spam. I don't know you from Adam. Yet you want to dictate how I post. It's information for you to put to use. Many of those in here are aware of how I post. And now you are. | ||
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On May 31 2011 10:43 bumatlarge wrote: That's so meta. Cue a tail wag from amber. And holy balls jackal you are in this game? I thought you quit TL mafia... I like desk though, we need another straight forward and direct person in these forums. WINK WINK. I'm taking my vote off varp, I'd rather keep him around. Don't see any need to pressure palmer, he's obviously showing initiative with his posting. tnkted is a much better candidate I do believe so yes quite. I got over myself Bum. When I left my dad was dying and I was in a perpetual bad mood. I missed you guys. I saw this game and had to give it a go. Had I known a lawyer was going to write my role I may have passed.  I have no issue with desk either. I just want to make sure he/she doesn't start confusing my short posts for posts with a lack of substance. And while we're at it. Hey Barundar. It's summer league now. I bowl on Wednesdays. So Bum what do you think about chaos13 and his desire to send Amber to the pound? | ||
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On May 31 2011 11:00 bumatlarge wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 31 2011 10:54 Jackal58 wrote: I got over myself Bum. When I left my dad was dying and I was in a perpetual bad mood. I missed you guys. I saw this game and had to give it a go. Had I known a lawyer was going to write my role I may have passed. I have no issue with desk either. I just want to make sure he/she doesn't start confusing my short posts for posts with a lack of substance. And while we're at it. Hey Barundar. It's summer league now. I bowl on Wednesdays. So Bum what do you think about chaos13 and his desire to send Amber to the pound? Ah hope everything goes well for you in life, glad to have you back. Edgar Allen Poe wrote your role too? Glad to hear I'm not alone. Amber has some use. Obviously the creator gave some good half to that role, since amber is going to be stuck like that the whole game. He's going to lure a shot once we figure out what it is, but like the smart people have been saying, just leave it alone. I would need to read back to where chaos13 stated his move, because I don't really remember reading it. Seems more like a fleeting suggestion looking at it now. He obviously isn't considering amber's benefits. Harmless Oversight probably. Thanks. It's sorted. Chaos13 is a pretty sharp cookie. He doesn't make very many harmless oversights. He's worth keeping an eye on. | ||
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On May 31 2011 11:07 deskscaress wrote: no, i'm not even saying i think he IS lying about his roleclaim. i'm just saying he COULD be. sorry i missed your earlier post. lots going on in this thread. i'll address it now i'm FoSing him because he claimed he would find the scum, then claimed he wouldn't be able to help us, then claimed a role, then claimed he had an epiphany that he WOULD be able to help us. to me that just felt like damage control. i'm not buying the FoS's on Valipus or w/e yet, and no one else has appeared scummy to me. i do understand that we are trying to kill scum, but likewise, you must also understand that we have very little to go on. no official information at all. no night kills, no reports, no PMs. all we have are claims. and in an "everyone has a different power" game, why would ANYONE counterclaim a role? like i said, redFF very well could have a useless role and then he made up a role that "communicates" with the one person that the rest of us can't get a straight answer out of. that's scummy to me. we need to lynch someone and he's my only FoS right now that being said, beyond Palmar's bro-type posting, has anyone else noticed that he's typed Valipus as "ValipuS" several times, including the voting thread? i'm not gonna comb back over his posts (and for all i know the second is the proper way to write it, and no one else is doing that) and i could be creating a false memory but i could swear he keeps doing that :s red's every other word when he's scum is "fuck" | ||
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On May 31 2011 11:31 chaos13 wrote: I feel that my reasons for being suspicious of them are solid. You'll notice that I have not voted for either of them. Seeing as this is a game with no PM's, I have to do all my thinking in the thread. I just thought your selections were interesting. | ||
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On May 31 2011 11:59 chaos13 wrote: I think that would be a good idea. It will give us some focus. The five I would suggest for this: tnkted - has not been acting entirely pro-town. I definitely want some more input here. Sandroba - I'm still not comfortable with his plan in the beginning. Mataza - Reacted to very light (joking) suspicion at the beginning and was quickly defended (weakly, although lightly) by GMarshal and Palmar Karshe - has posted and clearly read the thread, but has not contributed. Lurker. redFF - reasons already stated What does everyone think of this? I think you're scum. | ||
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On May 31 2011 17:21 Mataza wrote: I have been sleeping over this and it´s bugging me. So here´s the thing: There are things we are not expecting(yes obvious). We have 33 people and 33 roles. Yet Mafia have only 1 Kill per night. A reasonable amount of people for scumteam would be somewhere around 5-9. This is not slightly off balance, this is "WTF is this shit?". Looking at these numbers, I would refuse to play the mafia side, because of pointlessness. Scum slip? | ||
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On May 31 2011 20:29 Kurumi wrote:Also Jackar,are You on meth,man? Why tunneling chaos13 so hard? Lol. I'm not tunneling Chaos. I just wanted everybody to be aware that the two people he fosfed both appear to possess roles scum would not want to have in the game. When I tunnel somebody you and everybody else will know it. And thanks Node. I didn't see the post from Decon regarding scum kp. | ||
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On May 31 2011 21:44 Mataza wrote: No problem. I don´t vote yet, because I don´t intend to vote more than once. I looked into 5 people who gave me a strange gut feeling, and only kitaman actually kept giving me that after rereading. Its a pretty weak case, and I consider his role and his meta behaviour to be possible explanations. I can´t truly judge his meta behaviour, but his responses are unsatisfactory so far. That´s all there is to it from my side. Why? Voting is a tool. It serves more than one purpose. | ||
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On May 31 2011 22:40 GMarshal wrote: Hey, has anyone noticed that tnkted's vote on coag is actually counted in the vote thread? Does no one else find that strange? I wonder what would happen if we lynched him? Coag I mean. | ||
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Voting rules: 1. Voting is done (in a separate thread, located here). You must vote there in order to for the vote to be counted, but please vote in both threads. Do not PM me your vote. Please vote in both the voting thread and in the main thread, but keep in mind only voting thread votes will count. 2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote Qatol. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance. 3. No conditional voting. 4. You may not vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses). 6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain. If Twinkles does indeed have some sort of role requiring him to vote like a moron I'm not sure that that ability will extend to everybody. When I previously asked "I wonder what will happen if we lynch him" it was a joke. Not something I actually wanted to encourage people to do. I hope you guys change your votes before lightning strikes. If you're town we can't afford to lose you due to a lapse of judgment. If you're scum , although I would feel a lack of satisfaction in getting you lynched, by all means leave your votes as is so we can all see what happens and laugh hysterically when you get hit by the lightning. | ||
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On June 01 2011 07:38 GMarshal wrote: We are done discussing a plan that will not be put into place. Both sides have been pretty clearly laid out. Instead answer these questions. 1.) If you were a vigilante who would you shoot tonight 2.) if you were a kingmaker who would you make king tomorrow 3.) what is your favorite colour 4.) Of all the players with more than ten posts in the game at the moment, which seem the scummiest? #1 and #4 are the same question. My answer to both is Meapak Ziph #2. Amber[Light]. Only on the premise he'd lift his leg and piss on the throne. #3. Green. It is the color of my wife's eyes. I will state right now that I will not participate in any plan that has me divulging who I made their role for. Enough of you will be annoyed at me before this game is over. I have no need to add another to that list. I also have no plans atm to divulge my role. It would require 3 pages and a legal department to sort it all out. | ||
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On June 01 2011 08:07 Mataza wrote: Huh, what? I thought Amber could only bark and tailwag. And then I question Viscera being on it. Maybe that is because I know him from last game. But he said at one point he is picking up no scumread and he is just waiting for something big happening. I´m not aware of a reason he should be on the fabled zodiac list, let alone Sandroba which Amber voted for. On second thought, why the HELL is Sandroba on Ambers list? I assume this to be a lie until Amber barks personally. ##vote redff # Kurumi # Karshe # Mr. Wiggles # deskscaress # GMarshal # Palmar # Eternalmisfit # sandroba # chaos13 # kitaman27 # Kenpachi # Tackster # Varpulis # tnkted # hiro protagonist # redFF # sinani206 # Node # bumatlarge # Mataza # Mig # VisceraEyes # Amber[LighT] # BloodyC0bbler # Torte de Lini # Cthsazsa # Barundar # Meapak_Ziphh # DropBear # prplhz # stefftastiq # Rean # Jackal58 Player list. Grrr or wag tail after each name. Use your brain. On June 01 2011 07:59 sandroba wrote: 1) hmm if I HAD to shoot tonight it would be tortedelini because he's either useless or mafia. I wouldn't want to be stuck in a mafia xxxix sinani situation in the late game. Useless townie is better alive than dead. Most people I've seen call townies useless as a reason to kill them are scum. This is first and foremost a numbers game. As long as town stays ahead of the curve we win. Doesn't fucking matter how useless you thing the surviving members are. What matters is your willingness to kill them. Don't be a dumbass. Unless of course you are scum then feel free to be a dumbass. | ||
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On June 01 2011 08:30 sandroba wrote: I dissagree with you wholeheartedly Jackal. Building a case to lynch torte de lini would boil down to he's being useless. Player's would argue that he's noob town or mafia and it would take us nowhere since it's very hard to tell those appart unless the noobtown is actually posting opinions and being useful. Vig shotting this kind of players is very useful to town, specially if you have to shoot day1 and don't have a very strong scum read on anyone else. Pushing for scummy players to be lynched is better than to vig shot them because it generates discussion and out more mafia. Vig shots are better saved for people you are very sure are mafia and for players that can't be read and are lurking/being useless. Lynching somebody you deem useless is scummy. We are here to lynch scum. Not to appease your superior intellect. If we lynch what is in your eyes a "useless" townie we have wasted a lynch and diminished our numbers by one. Advocating this position in any way shape or form as a townie is lunacy. You sir are no lunatic. In RoL's experimental mafia games we were faced with a situation of having to go forward with an absent townie or lynch him. There were no modkills for inactivity in that game. In that situation I did advocate lynching the inactive. If we didn't town would have lost by default at a mylo. Torte de lini is not inactive. He may not be posting as much as you like. He may not be posting content you agree with. But goddamn it he's fucking here. He's fucking posting. If you can't come up with a better reason to lynch somebody than your opinion that he's useless I will do everything I can to hang your ass. That outlook from town is sheer stupidity and allows scum to rape us. And again. You're not stupid. | ||
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On June 01 2011 08:56 sandroba wrote:Again, I'm not advocating a lynch, because if he keeps posting like he has there's no way to build a case to differ him from being useless town from mafia. He's also NOT here. He's all over TL, but not here. I'm advocating a vig shot unless he steps up and start posting opinions and giving us something to work with. If you can't see how this is benefecial you are the lunatic, not me. Please. Same difference. How many vig shots do we have? Do you have any idea? I don't. I'm pretty everybody here has no idea. Most games this size have 1 or 2. For all I know half the people here have a shot of some sort. But I'd much rather they shoot scum than somebody you see as useless. I have no idea if Torte is scum or not. What I do know is scum love to have townies kill people they have labeled useless townies.They also love to claim vigi. And vet. They're one offs they can easily hide behind. You setting up your scumbuddies for a fake claim already? And you really have no idea how much of a lunatic I can be. Please keep telling us how advantageous it is to kill a townie. I'm loving it. | ||
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On June 01 2011 09:19 sandroba wrote: OK jackal, how can you tell he's townie??? I fucking have no clue. If he keeps posting like that how will we ever be able to tell he's town? What incentive mafia has to kill a player like that if he's town. If it comes to late game and you have to decide who to lynch or lose will you be confident he's one or the other? I was also answering for an hippotethical question by GM if I was a vig and HAD to shoot someone tonight. Stop distorting my posts. I can't. I have already stated I have no idea if he is scum or not. But upon viewing the second bolded I am now positive he is town and you are scum. | ||
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On June 01 2011 09:33 sandroba wrote: jackal58, your logic never stops to surprise me. We really don't know each other. Scummy. Nice slip btw. | ||
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On June 01 2011 11:01 chaos13 wrote: @prplhz Your argument for Tackster being town is not very strong. Node's for him being scum is actually quite strong. I also think that sandroba will flip green, and an information lynch is never preferential to a scum lynch. Therefore, I think we should be putting pressure on Tackster instead of Sandroba. You are one of the few players I have a town read on. I think if you were on a mafia team your scumbuddies would be helping out your posting a bit more, rather than letting you bring attention to yourself with arguments like this one. Lol. You really shouldn't paraphrase me in a game I'm in. | ||
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On June 01 2011 11:48 sandroba wrote: So that's the only reasoning I found for your vote on me. I must say your reasoning is great. "He's behaving odd imo and is spammy." How does that equal scum? Am I missing something here? Sounds like the same reason you want to kill torti. And btw I never tunneled you in XXXIX. I tunneled cthalphabetsoup. I responded to one post you made. And then I died. | ||
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On June 02 2011 02:34 deskscaress wrote: also i find it really unnerving that GMarshal, supposedly an experienced, good player, tried to vote for himself that gets a big "uh, okay?" from me Many times voting for oneself is fine here. Actually more often than not. | ||
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On June 02 2011 04:24 chaos13 wrote: Alright, Kurumi and prplhz, quit with the arguing back and forth. I think you're both town, and you're not helping anyone with it. Jackal58, why did you vote Sandroba? We're still arguing about Viscera, Sandroba, and Tackster, as well as tnkted now. The more I read tnkted's posting, the less I think he is scum, and I have already made my thoughts on the other three clear. I would encourage everyone to move to GMarshal. A few of you have already said you feel he is scummy as well. Act on it. He is our best candidate for a lynch today. Because I believe he is scum. If you'd rather I could switch my vote to you. I think you're scum too. | ||
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On June 02 2011 04:56 chaos13 wrote: That's some quality analysis right there you two. Jackal, you have nothing to gain by not posting the reasons you think Sandroba is scum. Same with the reasons you think I am scum. Likewise for you, Palmar. I wasn't defending him. I was saying you two need to stop spamming up the thread with your back-and-forth bickering. If you haven't seen why I think Sandroba is scum you aren't in the game. Same for why I think you are scum. Analysis doesn't need a 15 paragraph write up full of bullshit and a million referenced quotes. I think you are scum for immediately attacking two players that revealed roles that in the hands of townies are quite invaluable. As soon as I called you on it you were all lovey dovey with both of them. Bullshit. I pressured Sandroba on his useless townie post. At first I just wanted him to understand that a "useless" townie is better than a dead townie. He disagreed and posted this gem "What incentive mafia has to kill a player like that if he's town." Are you fucking shitting me? There ya go. | ||
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On June 02 2011 05:17 Palmar wrote: I'm calling you scum because you're scum. Also because your pm from dec said so. Good enough reasoning for me bro. Explain as much as you can. First who are you referring to? | ||
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On June 02 2011 05:25 Palmar wrote: referring to chaos13 he's scum bro. Did you receive a PM from Decon regarding this due to your role, or is this your opinion? | ||
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I was hoping we could get an answer from Palmar with out it being lost in 300 posts of no you. | ||
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Carry on Kurumi. No offense intended. | ||
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On June 02 2011 05:40 redFF wrote: Jackal what do you think of Mataza? What do you think of me? Is Tackster the correct lynch? I think atm Mataza is not the best and brightest. I have no clear read on him one way or the other. I think you're an asshole but you already knew that.  I don't know what Tackster is. Don't dismiss his role so readily though. If he is town and we identify scum it would be a wonderful weapon to be able to block them from voting. | ||
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Allow me to preface this with the following caveats: 1. I don't care if you like me. 2. I don't care if you think I'm arrogant, belligerent, ignorant, or any other kind of 'ent/ant 3. I'm not here to be your friend. 4. If I hurt your precious feelings you need to start spending more time in the real world. 5. I'm here to kill scum 6. I will not coddle you in the process. Now that we have that out of the way I'm going to speak my mind. 75% of you suck. That is a simple truth. There is no such thing as a "useless townie". That line of thinking stops right here. RIGHT NOW. You all get that? I hope you got that. If you wish to push it any more you are scum. The only useless townies are inactives that will be modkilled. If an individual is posting things you don't agree with, or you think are off the mark, or you think are scummy by all means call them out on it. But stop analyzing people you think are useless townies. If they are town they are not useless. You dumbshits are going to "useless" townie us right into oblivion.Stop fucking doing it. The only thing you are doing is giving scum a place to hide. The only useless townies are the ones calling others useless townies. Fucking stop it. Morons. Do not base your analysis on people that piss you off. We just lost the goddamned batman because some fucking moron had a fucking hardon at BC. I understand that this game creates emotional responses from people. You dumbshits have to understand that sometimes people are looking for emotional responses. Scum love to stir the pot. If I call you stupid look at the reason why I called you stupid. Odds are if you step back you will realize that yes what you said was stupid. Stupidity does not make people scummy. Calling a persons post stupid does not make that person scummy. It happens get the fuck over it. Scummy behavior lies in wanting to kill people for stupid shallow reasons. Scum do not have to pressure people. Us townies do that all by ourselves. Scum simply look for the opportunity to go along for the ride. Stop driving the fucking bus. If you see a post that seems to push a scum agenda bring it to our attention Stop trying to get people lynched because you think they are stupid. Odds are if a person appears stupid it's because they are stupid. Not because they are scum. So please stop trying to massage your fucking collective egos. Actually everybody right now take your ego and fold it up into a little square and wipe your ass with it. Then flush it. You'll know where to find it when the game is over. I am in a mason circle that did include BC. This circle is not of my doing. As far as I know atm nobody in it is the benefactor that included all of us. BC had the best analysis of this game to this point. "General opinion is people are fucktards." I could not have said it better. Bum can confirm this. He's in the circle with me. I will not out the others. If they wish to claim it's on them. Don't ask me to. We need to use Bum as an asset. A lot of you are going to call this differently. As of right now I believe towns best interest lies in using Bum until the time comes where he has to play for his win condition. When that moment arrives I have no problem with kicking him to the curb. I probably have another million things to add but I don't remember wtf they are. Bottom line is - Town,Stop being fucking morons. Start looking for scum instead of people that piss you off or you deem as useless. Fucking morons. Yours truly, Jackal58 | ||
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On June 02 2011 18:18 sandroba wrote: Sorry but I have to dissagree with the kill sinani plan. First of all sinani is pretty much confirmed town right now so mafia will have to kill him sooner or later and then he can bring back BC. Second I want bum to kill prplhz or if he dissagrees make sure to fucking hit scum otherwise he's lynched next day. We have no way to be sure how many kp mafia has so bum HAS to anounce who he's hitting before the end of the night so we can confirm it. Bum, your win condition is to be the last man standing?? That's a fucking impossible win condition pretty much since you are outed as soon as batman is killed and you cannot kill batman. How the fuck do you win? I'm not fucking buying it in the slightest. Fear of the unknown? Or fear of bringing BC back into the game? Either way it's nice to know that the scum team is confirming Sinani isn't one of them. Shoot Sinani Bum. Or you could shoot this piece of scum right here. Don't really care. Just call your shot right before Day post goes up. Don't pull a fucking repeat of the RPGs on us Bum. | ||
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On June 02 2011 23:23 tnkted wrote: Also #vote VisceraEyes. He seems scummy (ha!). It's night time Twinkles. Although that may be the appropriate time to vote for a Zombie. | ||
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On June 03 2011 00:07 chaos13 wrote: Since nobody said I shouldn't, here are my notes on the game so far. I'll see you all sometime this evening. + Show Spoiler [Player Notes] + *These are my personal thoughts so far. If you don't agree with them, deal with it. I'm not always right.* Kurumi -Usual erratic posting style, tough to analyze. Has actually been contributing in a meaningful way. Most likely town Karshe -Overwhelmed by size of game. Appears when called for lurking. Has since disappeared. Uncertain Mr. Wiggles -Uncertain deskscaress -Doesn't feel his role will be particularly useful. Strong personality. Could be either scum or town GMarshal -Defended Mataza when there was no real pressure on him. Contributing without contributing. When I point out his scumminess and vote him, he comes in with an excuse for being inactive over the next few weeks. Suspicious. Palmar -Disagrees with role claim, supports analysis. Strange fistpound thing with several players. Advocates shooting useless townies for information. Claims I am scum because I am giving off "maf vibes", but doesn't bother to provide any real evidence or analysis. Got around to posting actual analysis. It was rather weak, and mostly blamed me for posting fluff and spamming. Suggests a vigi shot on Mataza and Varpulis, as well as a DT check on Jackal58, three other players on my suspect list. This doesn't make sense if they are all scum. Possible third party. He doesn't quite fit town or scum. Suspicious. Fistpound List Returned offer by Palmar GMarshal Node tnkted Kurumi sandroba Offered it to Palmar without being asked VisceraEyes Mataza Ignored invitation from Palmar Amber[Light] redFF Meapak_Zipph Eternalmisfit DropBear Eternalmisfit -Inexperienced player. Attempting analysis, sometimes weak. Has good ideas when he's around, keeps discussion focused and on track. Most likely town. sandroba -Proposed claiming who we created roles for. Reacted strongly to pressure, but after initial scumminess has not done anything strange. Plan would probably not have been put forward by mafia, as it draws too much attention. Overall not giving me a scummy feel. Too few of his posts are suspicious Most likely town kitaman27 -Mildly aggressive. Contributing more than in XXXIX, where he was scum. Not as accusatory as in XXXIX. Most likely town. Kenpachi -Uncertain Tackster -Minimalist contributor. Reiterated what other players had already said. Lurked, made one large post. Claimed he had a migraine and is getting sick as excuses for not posting. Post was fluff at first glance, but on closer examination revealed some helpful comments and opinions. Upon re-reading his posts, he has actually added some good input. Role claimed Most likely town. Varpulis -Agrees with a variation of sandroba's idea. Has been targeted by many players who feel he is scummy. When multiple players are jumping on one it often leads to scum. Uncertain-possible scum tnkted -Strange style of play. Unique role allows (requires?) him to vote for players outside the game. Posting has improved in quality. Some question about it still. Uncertain hiro protagonist -New player, not being obvious. Uncertain redFF -Claims role will not be useful. Mason-type role. Lying scum or dumb townie. Not up to usual standards. Posting has drastically improved in quality. Good contributions. Most likely town. sinani206 -Called for hit on him, saying that something good for town would happen. Town Node -Good posts. Has defended me. Has been pro-town, but in a way that feels somewhat cautious to me. Very soft defense of GM when I asked for his thoughts. Defended me when Palmar called for a vigi hit without analysis. The way he is playing I am uncertain. His posting is pro-town, but it feels far too thought-out to be a townies. Will be keeping an eye on him. Uncertain. bumatlarge -Encouraging discussion and analysis. Claims SK type role as Joker. Either third party or scum. Mataza -Claims role will not be useful. Defended by GMarshal and Palmar after little pressure. Posting does not feel pro-town. Suspicious Mig -Lurker. Uncertain VisceraEyes -New player. Radical accusations and ideas. Scum team would control his posting more. Most likely town. Amber[LighT] -Ridiculous role restriction. Possibly fake. No way to analyze. Quoted several posts with symbols for his opinion of them. Is unsure of me, sees posts that could lead me to either scum or town, thinks Jackal is town, really thinks Sandroba is scum. Voted Sandroba. For such an inconvenient post restriction he is really trying to contribute. Most likely town. BloodyC0bbler -Very aggressive player. Stated by many to be pro-town. Experienced player. Possible scum Torte de Lini -New player. Lurker. Has a history of being extremely active that is not displayed. Possible option for new scum player Uncertain Cthsazsa -Uncertain Barundar -Lurker. Experienced player Uncertain Meapak_Ziphh -Aggressive player, encourages discussion. Genuine deliberation over me, came to the conclusion that I'm town. Has consistently been pro-town. Most likely town. DropBear -Uncertain prplhz -New player, seems inexperienced. Would have great difficulty pulling off scum. Most likely town stefftastiq -New player. Attempting analysis. Most likely town Rean -Few posts. Feels has been contributing when he has put little forward. I often do the same as town, I am more likely to pay attention to how much I am contributing as scum. Most likely town. Jackal58 -Usual aggressive play. Tunneling on me, but Jackal always tunnels. Posting feels scummy. Hasn't really contributed. Voted Sandroba without providing reasons. Suspicious + Show Spoiler [Alignment Lists] + TOWN -Meapak_Ziphh -prplhz -Rean -Amber[LighT] -Tackster -redFF -Sandroba -sinani206 -EternalMisfit -Kurumi SUSPICIOUS -GMarshal -Mataza -Jackal58 -Palmar -Varpulis *This list is not 100% correct, or mafia is making some crazy plays here. Mataza, Jackal, and Palmar can not be on a scum team together, there has been too much conflict/calling for vigi/DT's by Palmar. I would hazard a guess that 1-3 of these names are correctly identifying scum. THIRD PARTY UNCERTAIN -Karshe -Kurumi -Mr. Wiggles -deskscaress -Eternalmisfit -sandroba -kitaman27 -Kenpachi -tnkted -hiro protagonist -Node -bumatlarge -Mig -Torte de Lini -Cthsazsa -Barundar -DropBear -stefftastiq CLAIMED MASON CIRCLE -Jackal58 (claimed BC as well) -bumatlarge -Others ZODIAC LIST bumatlarge BloodyC0bbler GMarshal Meapak_Ziphh DropBear Node Jackal58 kitaman27 Rean Mr. Wiggles tnkted I do appreciate the time and effort you spent putting this together. 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 First. My apologies to Sandroba. Stop saying stupid shit and I'll stop calling you scum.  Second. Palmar if you want a fist bump from me you need to promise us you will shoot Kurumi.  He's our serial killer. He still has a shot. I'm not real comfy with him running around with a gun. I'm not real comfy with you running around with a gun.  Third. Twinkles. I have no clue what his alignment is .but I can tell you he cannot be lynched. Don't waste the time and effort trying to do it.  Fourth. I have activated my role and I am now required to post exorbitant amounts of smilies. Get over it. And no I'm not sharing any more about my role than that. Pfffffttttt. The odds that Wiggles was framed at the very moment he shot desk is astronomical.  The odds he was bussed and framed and shot somebody else all at the same time are about the same as me getting laid tonight. Non existent.  That is all.  ##Vote: Mr Wiggles | ||
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On June 03 2011 08:59 redFF wrote:I kinda of want in to Jackal's pm circle right now. Jackal, do you think i'm town? I like it better when you just ask me what I think of you. I have no ability to add anybody. I still don't know who created the circle or why they invited those that are in it.  I have no idea if you are town, scum or 3rd party. If Amber is town I think the odds are very high that you are as well. If Amber is scum so are you. And vice versa. | ||
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On June 03 2011 09:21 redFF wrote: Well i'm waiting on Chaos to tell me what will happen if i pm him. But otherwise I'm thinking of using my role on you cuz I think you're town and since your in a pm circle we could compare reads etc... I think I'd prefer you continuing interpreting for Amber. Your call though. | ||
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On June 03 2011 19:50 Kurumi wrote: I'd like to remind You that I count as town as far for Mafia objective(overrun) You might control my shot Night 2,though I'd rather not use it. You're not fucking town. You're the goddamned serial killer. | ||
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On June 03 2011 23:22 Palmar wrote: oh, and in addition. I claimed an uncontested night kill on the mole, I claimed my role, confirmed by tnkted. I'm probably the greenest bro in town right now. You're going down chaos13. Only one problem with your scenario. Scum knew who the mole was. Could be Chaos defending a future scum or scum killing off Val to gain town cred. You're more a shade of baby shit green than townie green. Fucking posting restrictions are gonna get me fucking killed  | ||
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On June 04 2011 05:29 Eternalmisfit wrote: In case people miss it, here's the major change in OP: That's what I was just looking at.  If we add up the right column we arrive at our starting total. If we have 8 scum town had best have some massive fucking firepower and the brains to put it on target. If we have 8 scum their strongest weapon is their ability to lynch us. If we have 5 3rd party would it be safe to assume 3 assassins? Just thinking out loud. Mr. Wiggles. I applaud your spirited defense.  However I do believe you are the only person here to win a game as an SK.  Your ability to put a spin on shit is amazing.  You may be town.  But I doubt it. I'm voting for you anyways.  | ||
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On June 04 2011 07:55 Barundar wrote: If we have up to 5 third parties, and 2 people already claiming SK, I'd guess we have 3 assassins. That number fits with the last game that featured assassins. I don't trust the people who where random shooting and claimed vigi one bit because of it, if they have another win condition they will continue to "shoot for information", simply because it furthers their win condition. I really wish you'd post more. And when you did post I wish it had more substance than you are providing. I've played a half dozen or more games with you now and I know you're a better town contributor than you have been so far.. | ||
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On June 04 2011 09:39 Barundar wrote: Very, very hard to keep up with thread in the last week Jackal. Should improve now that I'm going home. What happened to your smileys btw? Fuck me. 1 for every two sentences. Never said they had to be in the same post. Fuck me. | ||
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On June 04 2011 17:48 Palmar wrote: yeah, we gotta keep up the discussion. Here are some thoughts I got. I like Mataza's idea of claiming any roles we created that cause mess for the town yo. It just aint cool if there is no framer in the game and we're worrying about it, same with miller and busdriver type o' roles. Bumatlarge and Kurumi bros have promised to be little bitches and do whatever we want them to do. I very much doubt they will, and I very much doubt they're both telling the truth about being serial killers. And I know a way for us to check that.... All we gotta do ask them to shoot each other. Wouldn't that be just fucking great? Getting those damn bastards to just shoot each other? Let's all agree on it and ask them to do it. Here's what I think will happen. Neither will actually follow through and shoot each other, and both will claim to have taken a hit. Well, at least we're lynching them tomorrow. But that's just a worst case scenario. Maybe one of them aint lying and we end up with a dead person, yay! I can shoot sinani206 for the town tonight, so don't worry about that bros. Shooting sinani right now is not a necessary requirement. We are trading 1 townie for another. Would I prefer BC? Yes. Would I prefer you shoot scum? Yes. Or if you ramp up to two shots I'd prefer you shoot Kurumi. And Bum can also shoot him. No more SK. No random shooting of townies. No swapping townie for townie. Sinani's reveal makes him a tough nut for scum to deal with at night. Let's leave him be for the moment. | ||
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# Kurumi SK is not town man. # Karshe Honestly don't know # Mr. Wiggles # GMarshal Don't know. Waiting for more activity from you man. # Palmar Could easily talk myself into calling you scum or town. # Eternalmisfit Dunno yet # chaos13 Hasn't said anything to convince me otherwise. # kitaman27 Sorry dude. But this game is how you roll as red. # Kenpachi Who ever knows.? Leaning towards town # tnkted His role is more suited to scum but that doesn't mean he is. # hiro protagonist Can't put my finger on it yet. But red vibes. # redFF Might be wrong but has appeared to try to help town as much as possible # sinani206 # bumatlarge Don't believe him to be a part of the scum team but does it really matter? # Mataza Dunno yet # Mig Dunno yet # Amber[LighT] Good doggie.# Torte de Lini Dunno if his restriction claim is bullshit or not. A little help in the matter would be useful. # Cthsazsa # Barundar Same opinion here that I have on GMarshall # Meapak_Ziphh Not sure why I got this vibe on you man but I'm sticking with it for now. # DropBear # stefftastiq # Rean Dunno. He doesn't post much as town or scum. Hard to read atm. | ||
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On June 04 2011 23:47 kitaman27 wrote:Jackal, your scum accusations are pathetic. You're better than that. The fact that you are apologizing when calling someone scum feels very, very wrong. FOS. What is pathetic about them? The fact that you're on my list? And no I'm not apologizing for calling you scum. It's just a figure of speech. You are lurking hardcore. You show up only when your name does. | ||
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On June 05 2011 00:09 Mataza wrote: Did anyone check tnkteds alignment though? I somehow missed the moment when his behavior was deemed pro town... Who said he was pro town? | ||
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On June 05 2011 00:21 Palmar wrote: Ok I'll not shoot sinani. how about I shoot kitaman, chaos13 or redFF? is that cool bro? If you have two shots shoot Kurumi. Bum can supply the third. | ||
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On June 05 2011 02:18 bumatlarge wrote: Well, I think the circle I'm in is pretty smart, so I'm just going to do what they say. They all seem fairly townish and lynching an SK is not on the top of their to-do list, so I think thats in the best interest for everyone. Jackal can instruct you on who I will be hitting, and if you don't believe him then I don't really care. We need Palmar on board and with 2 kp at his disposal. Kurumi if we can prevent Palmar and Bum from shooting townies by killing you we not only save random townie kills we save ourselves from having to lynch you. Not my fault you claimed SK. | ||
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On June 05 2011 02:48 Kurumi wrote: Because: I count as town for Mafia's objective to overrun townies I need to be killed by Mafia to achieve their victory Mafia needs to push a lynch or waste KP on me to actually kill me. The lynch is towns most powerful weapon vs scum. Why should we waste it on you? Shush now. | ||
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Fistbump Palamar. Bro if you don't follow through on this you will be on my to lynch list as well' Fucking smileys. | ||
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On June 05 2011 02:53 kitaman27 wrote: Jackal, why is your plan based on killing kurumi, rather than bum? Of the two, wouldn't you much rather see bum dead, or do you have an ulterior motive? Bum has claimed to be bulletproof. Not 2 kp proof. His alignment may be SK but his role has made him somewhat more difficult to eliminate than Kurumi. We will lynch Bum as that is the only way we can eliminate him. If we can shoot the shit out of Kurumi with Palamar and Bum we have saved a lynch. At least that's the way I see it. | ||
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On June 05 2011 02:58 kitaman27 wrote: Also, who is in your circle that came up with this plan? I did. It's Bum free. He wanted to shoot random townies and asked for our opinion. This is what I came up with. | ||
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On June 05 2011 03:01 Kurumi wrote: Bum also claimed he was roleblocked and couldn't shoot,does this ring something in Your head? If scum help to save you they are stupid and I have no doubt about towns ability to win. Scum don't want you here any more than us townies do. If they do protect you you are not an SK you are scum. | ||
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On June 05 2011 03:00 Eternalmisfit wrote: Actually, if Kurumi's role-claim is true, we will need 4 KP or 3KP+role-block to kill him. ##Fistpound: Palamar. I hope this doesn't come back to bite the town but I think we will need the KP and hopefully Palmar can hold on his promise of not randomly shooting people. Jackal is in a PM circle with bum and few others so I believe he has information which convinces him that leaving Bum alive is better. In either, we will need to off one of them tonight IMO. Nope. I have no such information. I just don't think it's possible to kill Bum at night. Not by shooting him at any rate. I will be pushing for Bums lynch tomorrow. Unless we get another magic reveal of scum. Now if somebody has an RPG the irony would be delicious. | ||
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On June 05 2011 03:37 redFF wrote: WHy does that make me scum?? GM visited nobody last night and that Torte was the only one who visited him. How do you know this? Where is this posted at If this is info you got from Chaos fine but don't make a post and draw conclusions from it that just aren't there. | ||
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Palamar shoot Kumari with your 2 kp. Bum shoot Kumari with your 1. Fistbump the shit out of Palamar guys. Cya all later. When this game is over I'm never posting another smiley again. Fucking smileys | ||
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On June 05 2011 07:55 redFF wrote: Also Jackal had a bit argument day 1 with somebody about killing Torte de Lini, and there was a bunch of votes on TDL at one point but that bandwagon quickly evaporated. :O going to check the thread. The only one I had close to an argument with on day one was Sandroba and his belief that killing useless townies was a good move. The person in question was TdL but I would have had that argument with him no matter what name he picked. Even you red. Nice OMGUS Kita. You scummy puke. | ||
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On June 05 2011 08:13 redFF wrote: Yeah I understand that but Sandroba had an FOS on TDL going and Jackal just shot him down and said that lynching inactives was bad, which I agree with. Anyway Jackal doesn't seem to have been really contributing or scumhunting that much. Calling us all fucking morons is all well and good but it doesn't help town win. Vigis shoot TDL or bum please. You still haven't answered my question regarding TdL role blocking Gmarshall. Where is that posted at. Maybe I'm dense but I don't fucking see it. | ||
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On June 05 2011 19:59 Barundar wrote: Depends on if he used the SK hit to kill, or a Joker ability. I'd assume someone alignment checked Bum by now. In any case he is anti town and unless we catch a mafia should die tomorrow -_- Meapak clears TDL, and both of them was on my suspect list. Seems very convenient. @GM where is your gargantuan post? I don't think you would prove anything just by killing Kurumi. The guy seems eager to shoot who town tells him to. If you actually are town, maybe recruit chaos13 or redFF to start connecting the circles. That way you guys can control Kurumi's shot. Mig has started to post more, so he is off my list of lurkers for now. Karshe, Hiro Protagonist and stefftastiq seems to have disappeared from thread however. Meapak didn't "clear" anybody. Role is not equivalent to alignment. All we know is that TdL did most likely rb GMarshall. All that gives us is a 50/50 that one of them is scum. | ||
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On June 06 2011 03:03 Kurumi wrote: You're going to shoot either Jackal or DropBear. You got a gun. You shoot me. Bitch. | ||
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There's a reason why we don't give monkeys guns. | ||
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On June 06 2011 03:40 Kurumi wrote: I am not town nor scum,so what's Your problem? Apparently getting shot. Bum, Palmar - Shoot this guy. | ||
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On June 06 2011 05:11 Mig wrote: When is the day post? Should be in about 45 minutes. | ||
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Well just to himself Keep the helmet on dude. Palmar who did you shoot? And why. | ||
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On June 06 2011 06:53 Palmar wrote: shot chaos13 My bad. Are you compelled to shoot every night? | ||
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Palmar He had two choices that would have seemed to have had a much better case put forward on them in Mataza and Torte de Lini. Of course both cases were made by redFF. Palmar chooses a 3rd option. A detective type role. Why would a townie shoot a DT on night two with very little to go on? Why wouldn't he shoot one of the other two? Because he hopes town will lynch them. redFF has a mantra on UG about doing analysis at night. He claims he never does it because it gives scum a target. Why are you doing the one thing you claim you never do red? If in 24 hours when Mataza blows up he flips gree I would highly recommend lynching red. If anybody bumps Palmar I will look very dimly upon you. Whoever wrote my role needs their ass kicked. | ||
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I see it as a distinct possibility. Scum shooting a mole or bussing another scum for town cred is not out of the ordinary | ||
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On June 06 2011 07:51 Rean wrote: Yeah, I think you are. Mason me if you want, this stupid smily mason circle is filled to the brim with scum anyway | ||
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On June 06 2011 10:24 bumatlarge wrote: Oh balls you can't be serious. Sucks ass doesn't it. Oh and don't get me wrong Bum I do want to lynch you. Just not yet. Well maybe I do. Who did you shoot last night and why????? Oh ya it sucks ass. | ||
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On June 06 2011 10:34 GMarshal wrote: Who do you want to lynch instead Jackal? I'm pretty sure we've confirmed bum is scum... Bum is definitely not town. I'm not as convinced he's scum though. Bit of a difference. It is becoming apparent that Decon gave townie alignments to those that have a role that would benefit town. I am going to assume that he did the same for the scum team.. Wiggles had a gun. Palmar has a gun. Tnkted wrote Palmars role. I wrote Tnkted's Tnkted's role is pretty useless for a townie: He is a member of the "Ignorant Electorate" On day 1 he can only vote for a person not playing in the game. Every subsequent vote he can only vote for a dead player. In exchange for his ignorance he cannot be lynched. He wouldn't pay attention to the results of an election anyways now would he? What scum wouldn't love to be unlynchable? Palmar lied about his role. Tnkted confirmed the lie. Now Palmar is waiting for Tnkted to confirm that they both lied. Mig claims this to be good town behavior. I think it's coordinated scum behavior. I'd much rather see a Palmar lynch today than a Bum lynch. He has a gun. He's already killed town. A DT town. Everybody knew Chaos had a DT role going into night. And you guys are now buying Palmars bullshit. We know Bum isn't town. Bum claims to have shot Kurumi last night. It would be nice if Kurumi confirmed getting shot. I know Bum has a gun. But Bum's also not stupid. If he were scum we wouldn't know jack shit about him yet. That ought to cover it. | ||
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On June 06 2011 11:05 GMarshal wrote: Jackal, how sure are you of what you are saying? I mean it seems to make sense, but we also know that one of bum and kurumi are lying. Also if bum is a sk as he claims, dosn't he have two vests? Its going to take more than a vigi to kill him, if he isn't lying. Well if Bum told the truth about his role he is bullet proof regardless of his alignment. If he told the truth about his alignment he's not scum. I have seen several posts claiming Either Kurumi or Bum is lying. But nobody has said what specifically that lie is. If it's about alignment giving Bums role to scum way imba. If it's about being roleblocked Meapak has confirmed TdL has the ability to role block a number of people at once. I'm not defending Bum. I know it looks like that but I'm not. I really think Palmar is the more dangerous of the two. | ||
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On June 06 2011 11:08 Palmar wrote: Whatever, I somehow did not catch this thing where chaos13 got confirmed as a tracker. So I guess I'm the idiot. Want me to shoot tnkted tonight Jackal? If you don't get lynched yes. | ||
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On June 06 2011 11:17 GMarshal wrote: The lying situation is as follows Day 2 both Kurumi and Bum claimed to be serial killers and to have been roleblocked, Kurumi said he shot sandroba while roleblocked, while bum claimed to be unable to shoot, hence one of them is lying, I think it was bum covering for his lack of serial killer kp. This is why I think bum is scum I thought Kurumi's role as he stated it said he couldn't be roleblocked? Damn now I have to go sift through three hundred posts of mindless drivel | ||
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On June 06 2011 11:53 Torte de Lini wrote: How am I scum again? All I read from RedFF is that he likes to hide his sources and wants to everyone vouch his validity. You have some sort of blocking ability. Would make sense if you were on the scum team. I don't know how red arrived at 100% confirmed but red always deals in absolutes. redFF has a mini mason role of a sort. Would expect him to be town at this point. Just not always accurate in his assessments. I have a mason role. I'm town. Mataza (sp) has claimed a tracker/watcher role in PMs to me. I suspect he'll flip town when the bomb goes off. I'll post what he told me his role was in the morning and who he checked. He has gathered no info other than the people he's watched have not been visited. Kurumi has a role that tells him who has done the shooting. He claims he's SK. According to Kurumi Kenpachi put a bomb on Mataza. Hatter type is usually a town role. So ken may well be town. Amber has a horrible role but if it's a DT type as alluded to I would suspect he's town. Those are all the roles I can think of other than Bum. | ||
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On June 06 2011 20:48 stefftastiq wrote: @Mataza Who is the amnesiac leader? and who are the remaining members - doesnt compute with the smileys? It's my role. I've claimed it already. I have no idea who wrote it but I'd like to kick them in the knee. It should be painfully obvious who is in it. I do not pick the people in it they are RNG'd. Each day post if I'm still alive it resets to 4 others. Actually I can choose a number between 1-4 with each number bringing separate posting restrictions. The smileys are the least obnoxious so I will continue to choose 4 as long as I am still alive. Those that are no longer in it no longer have a posting restriction. I also have dead people in it but Decon won't let me hold a seance. | ||
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On June 06 2011 21:56 GMarshal wrote: So, I've made up my mind. I'm not buying Bums claim. I think its a fakeclaim. No serial killer in his right mind would *ever* claim, especially not one as experienced as bum. The only reason bum would claim that is if he thought it would buy him a longer life expectancy. As far as being roleblocked, I'm not buying that either. From a balance perspective rb's either block serial killer KP or they don't. Anything else is a gimmick. Bum is lying to save his ass and is desperate to survive today for some unknown reason. I'm not going to let him if I can help it. You might be right and I am not opposed to a Bum lynch. But I still believe Palmar to be the more dangerous of the two. Afaik Bum hasn't killed anybody yet. : | ||
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On June 07 2011 02:51 GMarshal wrote: Why did everyone shut up? We have three lynch candidates we need to discuss, Scumatlarge, Palmar and Torte. People voting for bum other than myself, give reasons. People who have yet to vote, for who are you voting? Those who have said that torte is scum (Rean, Kurumi and RedFF) how did you come to that conclusion? I would suspect him to be scum simply by the way the alignments appear to be fitting the roles we all wrote. However that is going on the assumption that his role is a role blocker type. I don't have enough info to say with any certainty what he is though. Role or alignment. Other than his limited posting I have seen nothing condemnation worthy from him. | ||
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On June 07 2011 03:01 Karshe wrote: While I'm still voting for him at the moment, I don't think we should vote Torte as scum just because he has a scummy role. I'm not sure our host would be so obvious to give all scum the perfect scum roles... seems like it would be too easy to figure out who is who. Now that's a scum post right there. | ||
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On June 07 2011 03:07 Karshe wrote: How so? I'm saying if people are going to vote Torte, vote for the right reasons and not because the host supposedly assigned him a scummy role. Easy. You state you don't want to vote for him but you are going to anyways. If he flips town you point back and say "See I didn't really want to vote for him" Scum tactic used by scum. If you don't want to vote for him because of the reasons listed why are you? Because you are scum that's why. | ||
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On June 07 2011 03:30 GMarshal wrote: Oh, please do point out why in the nine hells of bator a SK would ever claim, I'm eager to hear your reasoning. Ask Karumi???? | ||
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On June 07 2011 04:24 Barundar wrote: Where does it say that Pandain replaced Kenpachi? last I saw on the subject decon said he was "negotiating". Palmar are you sure of those names or are you guessing? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=9640215 I suspect he is replacing kenpachi. Ken rage quit after the last day post. | ||
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On June 07 2011 04:34 Karshe wrote: I totally missed Ken rage quitting, that's pretty lame. One of his last posts is "Oh by the way, RedFF is town." and then he left. Nice. He did it in a mason circle. | ||
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On June 07 2011 04:05 Palmar wrote: -> 1/2 hits on scum. It may have been lucky, but it's still scum. -> RPing cause I felt it'd be fun, if anyone's actually mad about that... I really don't know what I should say. -> Fake roleclaim on D1 with pro-town intentions, someone pointed it being convenient that I'm retiring my gun tonight. But if people really want me to confirm I can still shoot... I can shoot. -> Read better, Kurumi called right away that Chaos13 had been my kill. He was correct. I shot Chaos13. -> My role is kinda imba, I realize. You might wanna consider having me DT checked or whatever, but killing such a strong town role because of a mistake, seems just silly. -> Didn't follow town instructions cause I was afraid of being bussed. I said it, I'm sorry. -> I somehow missed it, and I doubt Mataza is scum. -> If you know about a vote-check list, then sure, try me. You will fail, but you can cross me off and go for someone else. And the biggest thing. What sane mafia would claim killing such a useful role? I'll say it again. I could've claimed roleblocked, I could've claimed not shooting, and I could've claimed a blocked hit or something, but instead I admit the mistake, cause that's the closest thing to help I can offer the town after failing. One that wants to pop a mole with a role that's useless to scum to gain townie points. | ||
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On June 07 2011 05:19 Palmar wrote: I'm not talking about the VarpuliS kill, I'm talking about the chaos13 kill. I claimed it immediately and apologized. Claiming the kill serves no purpose as mafia as all it did was increase the suspicion of me, and you know... generally being suspicious is a bad thing for mafia. You had no choice but to claim it. Karumi was going to tell us who shot who anyways. | ||
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On June 07 2011 06:14 Rean wrote: I like how mafia is so kind as to out themself by trying to lynch Palmar over someone THAT ACTUALLY CLAIMED SCUM. Who claimed scum? Which mafia have outed themselves? | ||
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On June 07 2011 09:05 redFF wrote: Dont shoot kurumi shoot torte he is scum read my analysis on him and he is actually 100% scum. Kenpachi said I was town before he was replaced so I'd like to think kenpandain have some kind of detective role and are town aligned. Tnkted is w/e we can deal with him later. Bear in mind we cannot lynch Tnkted. | ||
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On June 07 2011 09:32 deconduo wrote: Pandain has replaced Kenpachi No shit. Who wrote my role Decon? I want to fart in their general direction. : | ||
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You lied and immediately two people gave you a bullet. You're scum bro. | ||
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On June 07 2011 21:06 Palmar wrote: Oh and by the way town. When I die, you should really take a look at the people who are voting for me, it's almost guaranteed there are some, if not many, mafia players in there. No one with a sane mind pushes a claimed assassin that has actions completely inconsistent with mafia goals. The people pushing my lynch are people wanting to save Bumatlarge I have no desire to save Bum. I have a great desire to get rid of a monkey with a gun. | ||
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Kurumi - SK Bum - SK? Or scum? Palmar - Assasin? Or scum? Wtf guys. Palmar with a gun scares me. If he's scum and lives who knows who he'll shoot. Kurumi is out of bullets. Bum claims to have shot Kurumi. We have to prioritize our lynch. I would say Kurumi is our lowest priority atm. His role is actually helpful provided he doesn't lie. Bum hasn't killed any townies yet. Yet. Doesn't mean he wont. Palmar has shown a remarkable indifference to who he shoots. His claim that he didn't know Chaos was a dt type is bullshit. He's either scum or just shooting random townies hoping to hit another assassin. A role that may or may not be in the game. All 3 claim to be non town. 1 is now harmless. 1 has claimed to have shot the other known non town at the time. 1 has lied repeatedly and has a gun and has demonstrated his willingness to shoot whoever he damn well pleases. Please lynch Palmar. Smileys suck. | ||
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On June 07 2011 22:16 Palmar wrote: Your logic is flawed. Kurumi isn't harmless, he'll lie and deceive to try to be the last person standing, also he's bulletproof. Bumatlarge is scum, we know he's bulletproof, so that he can't be shot at night. He should hang today if this town wants to stand a chance. I've lied, but only to further my own goals. There are very high chances of me dying tonight, there are very low chances of Bumatlarge dying tonight. You're trying to waste a lynch on someone that'll die anyway. If you think you are going to die tonight why do you have any objections to getting lynched today? If you are indeed an assassin you need to kill two other assassins. You can't do that. Who do you want to shoot so badly that you have created this bullshit story about being an assassin? If you are an assassin you have not played to your win condition. Much like Kurumi. Piss poor play. No bro. You're scum. Trying to kill one more night for your scum team. | ||
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Timmy fell down the well????? Quick! Get a rope. Lynch Palmar!!!! | ||
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) I also believe Amber knows things the rest of us don't. I also think leaving Palmar alive with a gun is a huge mistake. I think his assassin claim is unadulterated bullshit. But I'll vote for Bum. He's got to go sooner or later. If Bum flips SK and Palmar shoots another townie I'm going to have to take a long hard look at some of you I'm assuming are town. | ||
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On June 08 2011 00:24 Karshe wrote: Admittedly I'm still waking up... but someone remind me why we're discussing Palmar and not Kurumi? Why is Kurumi flying under the radar? If Kurumi is an SK he is out of bullets. I'm more concerned with those non town types that can kill. | ||
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Shoot Kurumi. He's a big meanie. | ||
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Does that mean he chose wrong? Or does that mean Mataza is scum? | ||
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On June 08 2011 01:07 Cthsazsa wrote: You think he's scum because of the fact that his posts hardly contribute and aren't even helpful, yet you don't completely think he's anti-town because of his argument with Kurumi.? There's other people who've been contributing far less than Torte, people who haven't contributed shit to discussion, such as Sinani. I don't believe his claim that his death will revive someone. He says that he has to be killed for it to work, as lynching will do no good. Wtf is that? His role probably involves killing people that visit him. No one confirmed, meaning his creator's probably dead. Post that sticks out to me: Obvious attempt to draw our vigis to visit him, so that they die? I'm not buying any of Sinani's bullshit. I don't understand how you guys are missing this, I don't understand how you guys are letting Sinani fly under the radar, and I definitely don't understand how you think TDL is more scummy then this guy/ Sinani's claim matches the claim of the person that claimed he made it. If he isn't what he said he is we have 2 scum. I don't know what his alignment is though. BC was opposed to Sinani's death. So it's possible if Sinani dies we get Mr. Wiggles back in the game. Provided he was truthful about his role. | ||
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On June 08 2011 01:28 Cthsazsa wrote: Wait who claimed they created Sinani's role? I missed it It's not in the thread. And at this point in time I'm not going to out him. | ||
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On June 08 2011 01:31 GMarshal wrote: The whole Palmar/bum debacle is giving me horrifying flashbacks to Kav wholeheartedly busing ON in Insane 2 to win the game, because his role was more useful. Mind you, this is Palmar who happily bussed hiro protagonist starting day 2, to ensure his victory in SNMMII. Yeah this whole situation is making every single one of my scumsenses tingle. My entire preference of Palmar over Bum has been the fact that there has been no evidence at all that Bum has shot anybody. I just switched my vote to Bum because it appeared the Palmar lynch was dead. But I can easily switch it back. | ||
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On June 08 2011 02:10 DropBear wrote: Still having net troubles. I haven't actually read the last like 20 pages cos it take too long for them to load  . Our download quota resets tomorrow (hopefully) so will be able to read up properly then.Can someone summarise for me very quickly why Palmar is a major lynch target? I still don't trust bum. He's scum. | ||
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On June 08 2011 02:12 GMarshal wrote: He shot chaos13. Lied about his role, twice, once to secure an extra kp, so he could shoot again tonight. Then he claimed assassin, and offered to "ally" with the town. He is scum to the core, and he is busing his buddy bum so the mafia can have an extra KP tonight. Mine was much more summarized than yours.  | ||
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Ninja'd I really hope you flip town Mataza. Enjoyed talking to you either way. | ||
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I'm basing my assumption that he may be scum on the premise that Decon assigned alignments based upon roles. But we don't know what his role actually does. | ||
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On June 08 2011 05:09 Barundar wrote: It's way too easy to use the excuse that he is uninterested in the game. If he was truly uninterested he would get replaced. It's not like he has completely vanished either. Anyways if Palmar flip red everything just got a lot more simple... QFT. If he is an assassin I"m going to shit my pants. If he is town I'm going to be pissed. No excuse for how he played. I'm damn near positive he is red though. | ||
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On June 08 2011 07:59 Mig wrote: Yes you are rightfully under suspicion because you are an excellent town player yet like jackal you have contributed almost nothing and led the town in the wrong direction. So if you are actually town then put some effort in and prove you are of some use to the town. Asking for a vig to kill you if you are town only hurts us. Pucker up and plant your lips upon my derriere. Wtf am I supposed to think when Palmar aka herp derp comes in and says he lied. And then says the guy that gave him his role also lied. And then claims he's a freakin assassin. He wasn't even in danger of being lynched when he pulled his herp derp bullshit.. Bum was in the lead by several votes. He had no reason to go off the deep end. I had just changed my vote to Bum when he pulled the Assassin bullshit. Don't even try to put this on me. This great big pile of steaming fuck all belongs to Palmar. :::. | ||
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On June 08 2011 10:33 Mig wrote: That is bullshit jackal. You are an good vet did you really think mafia would kill their mole on night one? And you were around when I made the argument about mafia not even knowing his role when they killed him. Any experienced player should know how unlikely it was for mafia to kill their mole just to buy fucking palmar town cred. I mean if they really wanted town cred they would have used wiggles since he is 50x the player. This is shit the veterans would have picked up on if you were actually town. Something else everyone needs to consider, hosts balance the teams in terms of skill so one side doesnt get crushed. Now look at the town deaths on our side. Kitaman, Meapak, BC, Node all good veteran players. Do you think decu balanced this game with just 1 good vet (wiggles) on the mafia side? Of course not. Between bum, jackal, GM, barundar at least one must be mafia and it is a lot more likely to be 2-3 of them. Kill bum first then Jackal or GM should be killed after. I would prefer jackal and I will write up a full case for it if I get home early enough. Where the fuck do you guys get the idea that I'm good? Go ahead and do your analysis. I'd call Palmar scum 999 times out of 1000. It's not my fault he had a mental meltdown. | ||
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Now I'm going bowling. And drinking. Mostly drinking. Fuck you smileys!!!!!! | ||
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Also ##Fistpound Palmar. Also I'm buried at work and won't be active til later tonight. Also no fucking smileys. | ||
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Leads me to ask this as well. On June 10 2011 04:24 Palmar wrote: if you were pro-town, you'd just tell us? And tends to make me agree with this. On June 10 2011 04:32 Kurumi wrote:he confirmed scum yo A townie that had to protect aspects of his role from revelation to scum would explain that. He wouldn't say "Not even close, try again" | ||
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On June 10 2011 05:05 Torte de Lini wrote: Since I'm going to die, I don't feel the need to contribute. Additionally you guys are incapable of reading Meapak's explanation. Even if I wanted to help, you don't deserve it, which makes me happy that when killing me, it tells you very little about anything. Claim assassin. All us townies are doing it. But tell some lies first. That will make your claim more believable. If you are town you'll do all you can to help us win. If you are so emotionally vested in staying alive in a game on the internet that you can't bring yourself to do that seek help. If you're scum disregard and carry on. | ||
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On June 10 2011 06:12 GMarshal wrote: Please, theres a Red dt check on him, he is scum, no need to debate it. Also he isn't town because he hasn't claimed timetraveling vigilantte from mars/assassin that is really aligned with the planar dragons and wins when BC is resurrected. I mean how are we supposed to identify that his is town if he dosn't make a reasonable lie like that to help us identify him? Jackal, no smilies today? I was role blocked. No fucking smilies. Unless I want to. Harumph. | ||
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On June 10 2011 06:20 deconduo wrote:  Creative use of smilies got old fast. | ||
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On June 10 2011 08:53 deconduo wrote: I won't be around at the normal time for the Night Post tomorrow, so any objections to me moving it forward by 10 hours? Bit soon to answer yet. TdL might claim tooth fairy and throw us all into a tizzy. | ||
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On June 10 2011 09:40 bumatlarge wrote: ^dont forget a part where town revives you! But only if the unkillable SK dodges the sacrificial knife of an insane priest and shoots our lord and savior the village idiot with a 3rd bullet he doesn't have during a full moon on the second Tuesday of the third week in the month of Herptober during Derpfest. Amidoinitrite Gman? | ||
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On June 10 2011 21:08 Eternalmisfit wrote: Btw, if hiro flips scum, then one of Drop/Mig/steff are scum (Rean and redFF are green easily) based on combining the voting list info. So, in that case, an alignment check on steff isn't a bad idea either. DropBear is a bad idea since he has claimed that night actions on him kill on reaction. I have a town read on Mig at the moment while steff has been lurking for the most. I would suggest an alignment check on either Jackal or steff tonight. What does Amber check for? He apparently checked me night one. | ||
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??? On June 10 2011 02:05 Amber[LighT] wrote: *growls* *wiggles his tail* *barks loudly* I'm confused. | ||
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And I was role blocked again. So either TdL can role block when he's dead or there is another one in the game. | ||
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On June 11 2011 07:53 Karshe wrote: This makes me even more uneasy of GMarshal, since Cthsazsa, Amber, and myself have all been considered pro-town for most of the game. Makes me uneasy of Rean. We either have a framer role or he's scum. | ||
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On June 11 2011 07:57 Karshe wrote: Oh, and in case anybody is wondering why I have a bomb on me... don't worry, it's not going to kill me. My role has a secondary ability that I would have felt bad for disappointing my role creator without trying once. Can't wait to see this. Turn you into a Roman Candle? | ||
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On June 11 2011 07:59 Karshe wrote: I couldn't remember why Rean's name was in confirmed green, but didn't want to question it and make it look like I was trying to discredit a DT... Rean did call out TdL when he would have had no compelling reason at the time. So I'm leaning towards him being town. Sorry for the "Fuck you" Rean. First thing I thought was that you were scum. But that doesn't fit. | ||
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On June 11 2011 08:08 Rean wrote: Hmmm. I think we should actually lynch Jackal instead, since he's confirmed to have a KP role, whereas Barundar is probably not the last mafia left. It'd reduce the kp by one atleast, always a good thing. If I had KP I would have shot somebody by now. I got smileys.I gotta believe you're town. I was framed. | ||
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On June 11 2011 08:09 Rean wrote: Oh and also, we can't vig Jackal since he's got his vest but vigging Barundar should be fairly easy. Right. 2 SKs in a game is nuts. | ||
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On June 11 2011 08:19 Rean wrote: So you're saying someone created a role that specifically frames someone to become black (a cmpletely retarded idea for a role because it would only be useful for mafia and very detrimental for town) and also knew to frame you rather than the guy I said I was going to inspect? Cool story, bro. Chaos 13's role: You are the Whistleblower. Once per night, you can track a player by stalking them, recording their actions and taking note of their visitors. If you do not reveal any of this information openly, when you die all the information is leaked in the Night/Day post you were killed in. Your alignment shows up as Black regardless of what alignment you are. He was town. You'd have to ask the moron that wrote it. Mataza was town. His role was useless. I'm town. I get to talk to people that don't reply to my PMs and post fucking smileys. Amber gets to bark like a dog. How the hell would I know why somebody framed me. Maybe I quoted somebody. Or maybe I said the magic fucking word. Or maybe they didn't believe your WIFOM. Or maybe you are scum. | ||
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On June 11 2011 08:53 Palmar wrote: jackal can wait another day I think? Barundar can be vigged I think we should lynch kurumi? Karumi is dead. | ||
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[QUOTE]On June 11 2011 08:50 Jackal58 wrote: [QUOTE]On June 11 2011 08:19 Rean wrote: [QUOTE]On June 11 2011 08:12 Jackal58 wrote: [QUOTE]On June 11 2011 08:09 Rean wrote: [QUOTE]On June 11 2011 08:08 Rean wrote: Hmmm. I think we should actually lynch Jackal instead, since he's confirmed to have a KP role, whereas Barundar is probably not the last mafia left. It'd reduce the kp by one atleast, always a good thing.[/QUOTE] Oh and also, we can't vig Jackal since he's got his vest but vigging Barundar should be fairly easy.[/QUOTE] Right. 2 SKs in a game is nuts.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On June 11 2011 08:08 Rean wrote:So you're saying someone created a role that specifically frames someone to become black (a cmpletely retarded idea for a role because it would only be useful for mafia and very detrimental for town) and also knew to frame you rather than the guy I said I was going to inspect? Cool story, bro.[/QUOTE] Chaos 13's role: You are the Whistleblower. Once per night, you can track a player by stalking them, recording their actions and taking note of their visitors. If you do not reveal any of this information openly, when you die all the information is leaked in the Night/Day post you were killed in. Your alignment shows up as Black regardless of what alignment you are. He was town. You'd have to ask the moron that wrote it. Mataza was town. His role was useless. I'm town. I get to talk to people that don't reply to my PMs and post fucking smileys. Amber gets to bark like a dog. How the hell would I know why somebody framed me. Maybe I quoted somebody. Or maybe I said the magic fucking word. Or maybe they didn't believe your WIFOM. Or maybe you are scum. [/QUOTE] That wasn't a framing role, it was part of his role meant to balance it out. If you had that, you'd know about it.[/QUOTE] That was in response to this: [QUOTE]On June 11 2011 08:08 Rean wrote:So you're saying someone created a role that specifically frames someone to become black (a cmpletely retarded idea for a role because it would only be useful for mafia and very detrimental for town) and also knew to frame you rather than the guy I said I was going to inspect?[/quote] I know it's not part of my role. I also know it's not my alignment. Now if you are going to start playing intentionally stupid I might have to begin reassessing my belief you're town and return to my original impression. | ||
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On June 11 2011 08:56 Rean wrote: That wasn't a framing role, it was part of his role meant to balance it out. If you had that, you'd know about it. That was in response to this: On June 11 2011 08:56 Rean wrote:So you're saying someone created a role that specifically frames someone to become black (a cmpletely retarded idea for a role because it would only be useful for mafia and very detrimental for town) and also knew to frame you rather than the guy I said I was going to inspect? I know it's not part of my role. I also know it's not my alignment. Now if you are going to start playing intentionally stupid I might have to begin reassessing my belief you're town and return to my original impression. That's what it was supposed to look like. | ||
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On June 11 2011 22:46 Rean wrote: We're lynching Jackal. He still has KP, Barundar only has his mafia KP and I doubt he's the only mafia left. Lynch Barundar. 3 black alignments will leave the game tonight. Me and GMarshall will be dead and the 3rd will leave as a victor. Plus you lynch a red. Win win win for town. Why do you think GMarshall and I jumped on Palmar so quick when he claimed he was an assassin? Wasn't because we though he was scum. I might not be town and I can't possibly win my condition now since you checked me but I would love to deny GMarshall his wincon too. Plus as a disinterested 3rd party I honestly want town to win. Fuck scum.And none of us could take a chance on shooting while Kurumi was still alive. We would have been outed immediately. So town - Lynch Barundar. He's scum. I have no interest in shooting townies or scum. Just assassins. | ||
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On June 11 2011 23:42 redFF wrote: Gm's role makes sense for an sk though right? a cult leader? And you say I suck at this game. | ||
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1. Karshe 2. GMarshal 3. redFF 4. Amber[LighT] 5 .Cthsazsa 6. Barundar 7. DropBear 8. stefftastiq 9. Rean 10. Jackal58 11. Palmar I had no great desire to see scum get killed until Kurumi was gone because it would greatly impede my win condition to shorten the game. So I just derped along. Giving scum no great motivation to kill me nor town any compelling reason to lynch me. Now I'm just going to play to my win condition. I can't win but I can certainly effect the outcome. I'm not 100% certain who the 3rd assassin is but at this point it doesn't really matter. It's either Karshe or Cthsazsa. So if you guys lynch Barundar town will be pretty much guaranteed a win. Best I can do guys. Sorry I'm not town but I am still going to play to my wincon and if I can help town win in the process good for you guys. Up yours Rean. Would have been hilarious if you were the 3rd assassin. | ||
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On June 12 2011 02:41 stefftastiq wrote: Jackal Im sorry, but nr 8 is wrong :-p Take it up with Bum. We all claim green til we flip. | ||
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On June 12 2011 02:45 Palmar wrote: problem with that list Jackal is that there were two mafia on my lynch-train. unless rean is lying, but since you didn't include the mafia in your list he would gain nothing from that. I couldn't resolve the stefftastiq name either. I may have read to much into the post that included him. Might only be 2 scum left. | ||
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On June 12 2011 02:59 redFF wrote: Has anybody not claimed yet? Barundar, DropBear (Only that he's dangerous to visit), and Cthsazsa. | ||
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On June 12 2011 04:54 Cthsazsa wrote: Palmar I would prefer it if you shoot Karshe tonight. Lynch Jackal tomorrow. If not, Jackal already knows my role. So I'm going to have to ask him to shoot me. Ummm err well scum team actually knows your role too. See I made a deal with the devil. Bum was scum. Was obvious. I needed to eliminate potential assassin targets. So I made a variety of trades with Bum. Some were info some were actions. I told Bum my alignment and in exchange for trying to keep town from lynching him on day 3 he would give me the names of his scum team. I also traded him two townie roles in exchange for shooting Kurumi. Bums list has been accurate to a T so far. But he omitted a name. And I know now why he was so cryptic about stefftastiq. stefftastiq is another mole. So you guys have 3 scum left plus a mole. Now you know why Barundar didn't give a shit about being called scum. | ||
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On June 12 2011 05:24 Barundar wrote: lie. Btw I'll gladly answer questions as the mafia spokesperson until my death. I will ignore any questions not from Jackal or Palmar however, as I don't want to give away info about my allies. Shoot away (hihi) Lie not. So you're saying only me and Palmar can ask you questions? | ||
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On June 12 2011 06:28 redFF wrote: Jackal can't even be shot though right? Since he's sk so bulletproof? We lynch confirmed scum today obviously, shoot and check into that list of Cthazsa/GM/Karshe/Amber right? Cthazsa who do you suggest we shoot? If you look at this from town's point of view, not your own, shooting into that list is the correct action no? Since we have a mafia in there. Lol. Kurumi was SK. | ||
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On June 12 2011 06:22 Barundar wrote: Wanna coordinate night hits Jackal? Why would I want to do that? I can't benefit you guys. I can't benefit town. I will be dead at the next day post. | ||
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On June 12 2011 06:33 GMarshal wrote: So, we lynch barundar, who we know is mafia, instead of one of the sk's who has a gun? IF we let jackal shoot he is going to be killing townies and bringing us closer to lylo. So you want to lynch Barundar instead? Do I *need* to explain why its better that we lynch jackal and shoot barundar? Or are we going to herp derp our way into defeat? You're just as deadly as I am. Go ahead and lynch me. You'll be just as dead as I am. | ||
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On June 12 2011 06:40 Barundar wrote: Actually I can offer you a deal making sure you won't .If I accept any deals from you I will be lynched immediately so lol nah. If you keep me alive for the night I will be lynched tomorrow. My game is over man. | ||
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On June 12 2011 06:53 Barundar wrote: Trust me it's not. Town is pretty clueless as you can see :/. I will reveal more tomorrow, closer to lynch, but ultimately you will have to trust me. lol. On June 12 2011 06:55 Rean wrote: Alright. This is what we're looking at atm:
Since I have to votecheck tonight, we're gonna do this nice and organized. People that will be voting for Barundar: Redff Rean Gmarshal Amber[LighT] stefftastiq DropBear Palmar People that will be voting for Jackal58: Karshe Cthsazsa Yes, I purposely left out Barundar and Jackal since they're not going to listen anyway (and we already know their alignments regardless). Discrimination!!!!!!!! Don't count the black mans vote. | ||
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On June 12 2011 08:35 Palmar wrote: Here is why we should lynch Jackal. Jackal has the ability to kill. GMarshal cannot kill anyone since he has no one in his circle. I can shoot barundar tonight. If barundar doesn't die, we lynch him and then shoot the dog. If barundar dies, we lynch Cthsazsa or GMarshal and shoot the other. All the while, the only KP's going around are mine and the mafia's, so we're not going to fall any more behind from this point on. Lol. So does GMarshall. And 1 other. My role is mason. My alignment is assassin. My alignment gives me two shots. Not my role. Lynch me today and town will most likely lose. Why do you think Barundar wants me to make a deal with him? So you guys don't lynch scum. Wtf do I have to lie about at this point? My game is over. I'll be done tonight. Lynch scum. Or lose. | ||
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Amazing how he just screams LYNCH JACKAL yet he's not denied being an assassin himself. | ||
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On June 12 2011 17:25 GMarshal wrote: Of course jackal has to lie, as the serial killer he needs to survive. Kill jackal, there are no assassins. Look at how many kp have been in play. Do you *really* think there are SIX more bullets that have yet to be fired? Hint, there aren't. Kurumi basically accounted for all of them before he died. There are no assassins. Jackal is a serial killer with a gun, who will kill town tonight if you let him fire and bring you one step closer to lylo. In fact the best play for the serial killer is to lynch scum today, shoot town tonight, cut a deal with the mafia tomorrow to tie the votes if there are enough mafia left and then create a stalemate situation. I'm not going to allow it, anyone not voting for jackal is allowing a townie to die tonight, and has their hands stained with Blood You want me to lead? Fine, I will. Lynch jackal, he is a serial killer. Shoot Barundar, he is scum Lynch DropBear, he is mafia We have this game in the bag, unless you let jackal shoot, in which case we are one step closer to lylo. If you are really town you'll see the logic in this. If you are just a mentally handicapped townie or scum, you won't. You know as well as I do why we haven't shot yet. Kurumi. And don't give me this BS about how there aren't any because none have died yet. Why aren't you dead yet bro? Why haven't I died yet? Why hasn't the third one died yet? Why have we already killed the SK? How many fucking SKs are there in a game? 1. Who the fuck puts multiple SKs in a game? IMBA much? Why was Barundar so goddamned anxious to get me to make a deal? So town doesn't lynch scum. He knows after tonight scum loses. I decided to help town to win. You've apparently decided to screw everybody to get a cheap chance at winning the assassin game. Don't blame you for playing to your wincon though. Sorry town but if you follow GMan here you give up your best chance at winning. | ||
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On June 12 2011 18:03 Barundar wrote: Hihi Jackal you should have listened to me in stead. Lol. You're pooched. | ||
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On June 12 2011 22:27 Barundar wrote: Voting thread tells me otherwise... You could have gotten town lynched but you gave us no choice. Not my problem town is dumb. | ||
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On June 13 2011 00:37 Barundar wrote: In my opinion we should lynch Palmar. He seems kinda dangerous. He's gonna shoot himself. Let's lynch Rean. Better dumb than scum right? | ||
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If he keeps playing with that gun he's gonna blow his own foot off. | ||
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Hey man town doesn't want to win. They want to herp derp into oblivion. If you guys want to win I'll help you. I can't win but if I'm going to help somebody I want to help the winner. | ||
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Have fun guys, Thanks Decon. Was the most fun I've ever had in a game. | ||
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What would you scum members had thought if I went that way? Oh and GMarshall. Don't try to throw 3rd party into it at the end. I spit coffee all over my monitor when I read that. | ||
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On June 19 2011 06:37 Barundar wrote: This was a pickle. We met on IRC, and I argued for killing Palmar with Jackal, and go into a shoot off end game, where we would rely on Jackal to win, but I would put our winning a chance to 50 % at best. I still think it was our best shot, but GM and DropBear however wanted to play on, so we went with majority decision + I was getting busy in RL so suited me fine to die Setup wise I think you can never let mafia KP=town KP in a game as large as this from the beginning. Would need at least 2 night KP, possible three, depending on the strength of the mafia roles. We lost the game because town had twice our KP in the end game. After I saw GMarshall was a mole I realized why you wouldn't vote with me. I never had any intentions of shooting GMarshall. I was going to shoot redFF for agreeing with me that I suck at mafia. Fucking smilies. | ||
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Kiss my ass Rean | ||
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On June 19 2011 08:01 GMarshal wrote: Jackal, this was the role I originally concived for you, but I deemed it too OP I thought that the additional win-conditions would be a bitch to deal with + I hesitated to add more KP to what was going to be an already kp saturated game. Now that would have been a kick ass role. Burn the heretic. Stone the blasphemer. All praise to Emperor Bush | ||
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On June 19 2011 09:12 sandroba wrote: hey jackal, well played too, I had a town read on you all game! Cheers. Thanks man. And sorry about pointing fingers at you but I had the luxery of not caring which side got lynched. It was a unique perspective. The only person that I really truly tried to get lynched was Palmar. And that was only because he had a gun. | ||
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On June 20 2011 00:23 DropBear wrote: Was I that obvious day 1? I tried to play exactly as I did in the previous game. And deconduo, for PTP2, maybe get people to pick roles for someone else still but don't tell them who they are picking for? It would still become apparent who got the role you created as the game goes on. I think it's more fun and creative if you know before hand who you are making it for. If it's somebody you're familiar with you can put little pokes at them in it. | ||
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On June 20 2011 06:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Honestly the biggest beef I had was the name of batman. Had I not had that listed I would have been an not good not bad role. Saying I was batman though meant I should have had something else to my power. Making me able to choose who to save out of whoever was hit at night would have done it or giving me a kp ability or the like. The name batman implies badass beyond belief Orly??? ![[image loading]](http://www.games.net/features/images/106502_2.jpg) | ||
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