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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#3481
You call this an argument?

Let me break it down, my commentary in bold


+ Show Spoiler +
On June 16 2011 07:26 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 07:01 Rean wrote:
Palmar, for the love of god, please vig redff. Even if by now you still don't think he's scum, shoot him just to shut him the fuck up. Shooting GMarshal would be ridiculously stupid at this point.


I'm interested.

While I haven't stated I'd shoot GMarshal there are several good reasons for killing him.

Let's have a look at his "accomplishments"

Calling out bum, whose role got leaked. Well so did I, and I am bad.

Voting for Wiggles... well duh.

Killing Kurumi, again... duh, he was an outed SK.

Killing Jackal, once again, obvious choice, I am bad at this game, and I was independently calling for exactly the same thing, I think before GM called for it.

DropBear: yes, this was good. I will agree to that. But was it a bus or was it a good call?

So I did all these "obviously" pro town things, while the rest of the town twiddled their thumbs, I produced a monstrous, in depth analysis of DropBear but you are just handwaving it all away as if it were nothing, because some of the stuff was "obvious", when some if not most of the town was not doing this "obvious" stuff. Quite simply, if the jackal lynch was clearly the best move, why wasn't it an unanimous vote?


GMarshal keeps rehashing these achievements in his defense, but most of it seems like obvious reasoning.

Now let's move on to reason number 2 to shoot GM

He has a freaking KP that we can't control.

No, no i dont, 2 daggers, as redFF revealed, the only thing I can do now is PM people

And finally

bumatlarge
Eternalmisfit
Kurumi
Jackal58
Karshe
GMarshal
Amber[LighT]
Cthsazsa
Rean
hiro protagonist

GMarshal
Palmar
Rean
DropBear
stefftastiq
Amber[LighT]

two lists. both lists have two mafia on them.

By exclusion the remaining mafia is GMarshal or Amber.

Except, of course, there might be a miller type role.

so Rean, if you know something I don't. Please explain why GMarshal is a bad kill? I think I'm shooting redFF, but I really want to know why you say killing GMarshal is stupid.

But wait! we KNOW theres a miller, and by induction that there is a GODFATHER role.


Seriously man, you have NO case against me, are you so scared of me you are going to kill me without thinking? Or are you pissed I got you lynched? because from a logical perspective your actions make *no* sense...

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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
June 16 2011 21:36 GMT
#3482
Rean what are your results of last night?
t(ツ)t
Karshe
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
June 16 2011 21:37 GMT
#3483
I guess I forgot about Steff since he has been "confirmed" town for a day or so, hrm.

Palmar, what reasons do you have for trusting Cthsazsa? I will not volunteer myself to be shot because I am town and it's the wrong choice... but our list of suspects is dwindling.

PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
June 16 2011 21:41 GMT
#3484
Ninja'd.

##Fistbump Palmar

Karshe what reasons do have to not trust me? I swear it almost seems like you're not even reading the thread. You hardly post anything and when you do post it contains nothing valuable to town.

I'm not ruling out GM as a possibility but I'm more towards steff or Karshe as the remaining scum. Both have been lurking considerably and hardly helping Town at all, whereas GM is actually contributing.
t(ツ)t
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 16 2011 21:45 GMT
#3485
On June 17 2011 06:37 Karshe wrote:
I guess I forgot about Steff since he has been "confirmed" town for a day or so, hrm.

Palmar, what reasons do you have for trusting Cthsazsa? I will not volunteer myself to be shot because I am town and it's the wrong choice... but our list of suspects is dwindling.



He created Wiggles's role.
Computer says mafia
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 16 2011 21:48 GMT
#3486
On June 17 2011 06:45 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 06:37 Karshe wrote:
I guess I forgot about Steff since he has been "confirmed" town for a day or so, hrm.

Palmar, what reasons do you have for trusting Cthsazsa? I will not volunteer myself to be shot because I am town and it's the wrong choice... but our list of suspects is dwindling.



He created Wiggles's role.

So, you are 100% sure he is town? Like, "willing to bet the outcome of the game" on him being town sure?
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Karshe
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
June 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#3487
On June 17 2011 06:45 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 06:37 Karshe wrote:
I guess I forgot about Steff since he has been "confirmed" town for a day or so, hrm.

Palmar, what reasons do you have for trusting Cthsazsa? I will not volunteer myself to be shot because I am town and it's the wrong choice... but our list of suspects is dwindling.



He created Wiggles's role.

Sorry, I don't really see where you're going with this.

On June 17 2011 06:41 Cthsazsa wrote:
Ninja'd.

##Fistbump Palmar

Karshe what reasons do have to not trust me? I swear it almost seems like you're not even reading the thread. You hardly post anything and when you do post it contains nothing valuable to town.

I'm not ruling out GM as a possibility but I'm more towards steff or Karshe as the remaining scum. Both have been lurking considerably and hardly helping Town at all, whereas GM is actually contributing.

Number of posts =/= alignment, as I'm sure you realize. Just because I haven't been posting page long PBP's every day and because GM has been more active than me doesn't mean I'm scum and GMarshal is town.

Speaking of posting habits, going back through the last 10 pages, Steff's posting has become much more scarce ever since he has been "confirmed" town. I am very curious to see what his role provided last night. I'm guessing it's going to be something we already knew.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 16 2011 21:59 GMT
#3488
On June 17 2011 06:35 Rean wrote:
I'm fairly confident that Cthsazsa is town. GMarshal being a mafia miller just makes no sense, but it could be redff's role playing a part here. But I doubt GMarshal would've bussed DropBear like that. That leaves stefftastiq and Karshe, who both have used their roles in a seemingly pro-town way, but they haven't really done anything else. I think they'd be the best lynch/vig targets for now. Something about stefftastiq just feels scummier though.
##Fistpound: Palmar

Oh, and I alignment checked Amber but as you might have guessed that didn't really lead anywhere.


Why did you check amber and not karshe or Cthsazha

Anyway, what should we do?
Computer says mafia
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 16 2011 22:04 GMT
#3489
On June 17 2011 06:59 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 06:35 Rean wrote:
I'm fairly confident that Cthsazsa is town. GMarshal being a mafia miller just makes no sense, but it could be redff's role playing a part here. But I doubt GMarshal would've bussed DropBear like that. That leaves stefftastiq and Karshe, who both have used their roles in a seemingly pro-town way, but they haven't really done anything else. I think they'd be the best lynch/vig targets for now. Something about stefftastiq just feels scummier though.
##Fistpound: Palmar

Oh, and I alignment checked Amber but as you might have guessed that didn't really lead anywhere.


Why did you check amber and not karshe or Cthsazha

Anyway, what should we do?

I have a plan, but it depends entirely on how sure you are of your read of Cthsazha. Are you willing to bet the outcome of the game on him being town?
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
June 16 2011 22:04 GMT
#3490
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#3491
On June 17 2011 07:04 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 06:59 Palmar wrote:
On June 17 2011 06:35 Rean wrote:
I'm fairly confident that Cthsazsa is town. GMarshal being a mafia miller just makes no sense, but it could be redff's role playing a part here. But I doubt GMarshal would've bussed DropBear like that. That leaves stefftastiq and Karshe, who both have used their roles in a seemingly pro-town way, but they haven't really done anything else. I think they'd be the best lynch/vig targets for now. Something about stefftastiq just feels scummier though.
##Fistpound: Palmar

Oh, and I alignment checked Amber but as you might have guessed that didn't really lead anywhere.


Why did you check amber and not karshe or Cthsazha

Anyway, what should we do?

I have a plan, but it depends entirely on how sure you are of your read of Cthsazha. Are you willing to bet the outcome of the game on him being town?


your plan depends on me trustin you're town.

I'm going to take my advice from Rean.
Computer says mafia
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 16 2011 22:19 GMT
#3492
On June 17 2011 07:18 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 07:04 GMarshal wrote:
On June 17 2011 06:59 Palmar wrote:
On June 17 2011 06:35 Rean wrote:
I'm fairly confident that Cthsazsa is town. GMarshal being a mafia miller just makes no sense, but it could be redff's role playing a part here. But I doubt GMarshal would've bussed DropBear like that. That leaves stefftastiq and Karshe, who both have used their roles in a seemingly pro-town way, but they haven't really done anything else. I think they'd be the best lynch/vig targets for now. Something about stefftastiq just feels scummier though.
##Fistpound: Palmar

Oh, and I alignment checked Amber but as you might have guessed that didn't really lead anywhere.


Why did you check amber and not karshe or Cthsazha

Anyway, what should we do?

I have a plan, but it depends entirely on how sure you are of your read of Cthsazha. Are you willing to bet the outcome of the game on him being town?


your plan depends on me trustin you're town.

I'm going to take my advice from Rean.

Nope, this is a plan that makes me lose if I'm mafia, let me get it written up.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 16 2011 22:21 GMT
#3493
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Its time I handed you the game guys, since its obvious no scumhunting is going to help with people who showed no real thought thought the game. Palmar is sure Cthsazsa is green. So, I'm going to gamble the entire game on that one read, mostly because I agree with it.

This plan is going to abuse the fact that the mafia lacks enough KP to kill all the confirmed townies, so what we are going to do today is lynch Karshe, because I find him more likely to be mafia than steff. Then Palmar will shoot steff. If Karshe flipped green then steff will flip red. That night the mafia has to kill rean, which if I were mafia only leaves me, Palmar and Cthsazsa, if we reach that point, then Cthsazsa and Palmar lynch me. Its a win win situation, whatever happens we kill all the unconfirmed townies and leave only Palmar and his #1 (and my #1) town read alive.

Again, if I'm scum, I can't win with this plan. Which is why we need to follow it.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 16 2011 22:23 GMT
#3494
did you stick anyone in your circle tonight GMarshal
Computer says mafia
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
June 16 2011 22:25 GMT
#3495
On June 17 2011 06:57 Karshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 06:45 Palmar wrote:
On June 17 2011 06:37 Karshe wrote:
I guess I forgot about Steff since he has been "confirmed" town for a day or so, hrm.

Palmar, what reasons do you have for trusting Cthsazsa? I will not volunteer myself to be shot because I am town and it's the wrong choice... but our list of suspects is dwindling.



He created Wiggles's role.

Sorry, I don't really see where you're going with this.

Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 06:41 Cthsazsa wrote:
Ninja'd.

##Fistbump Palmar

Karshe what reasons do have to not trust me? I swear it almost seems like you're not even reading the thread. You hardly post anything and when you do post it contains nothing valuable to town.

I'm not ruling out GM as a possibility but I'm more towards steff or Karshe as the remaining scum. Both have been lurking considerably and hardly helping Town at all, whereas GM is actually contributing.

Number of posts =/= alignment, as I'm sure you realize. Just because I haven't been posting page long PBP's every day and because GM has been more active than me doesn't mean I'm scum and GMarshal is town.

Speaking of posting habits, going back through the last 10 pages, Steff's posting has become much more scarce ever since he has been "confirmed" town. I am very curious to see what his role provided last night. I'm guessing it's going to be something we already knew.


You didn't answer my question, which I just now so kindly bolded for you.

I never said number of posts equals alignment, I never said that not doing PBP paints you as scum. I said that you haven't contributed anything to discussion.

And that's funny, because I was actually planning to check out steff before you suggested it :-)

t(ツ)t
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 16 2011 22:25 GMT
#3496
By the way, Cthsazsa, can you death vig if you get lynched?
Computer says mafia
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 16 2011 22:26 GMT
#3497
On June 17 2011 07:23 Palmar wrote:
did you stick anyone in your circle tonight GMarshal

Cthsazsa, I'm talking with him right now, we are discussing steff as a possibly better lynch candidate than Karshe
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 16 2011 22:31 GMT
#3498
Cthsazsa, can you roleclaim in full?
Computer says mafia
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
June 16 2011 22:32 GMT
#3499
On June 17 2011 07:25 Palmar wrote:
By the way, Cthsazsa, can you death vig if you get lynched?


Yeee.

I agree with GM's plan, but that means I wont get to use my only power /:
t(ツ)t
Karshe
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
June 16 2011 22:33 GMT
#3500
Cthsazsa already role claimed in full at some point... he gets to kill someone the following night of his death, doesn't matter how he dies.
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