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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On May 27 2011 09:14 Radfield wrote: You misunderstand GM. I don't think you're mafia, but I'm saying you could still be the mole. I don't think you lied about any lists at all, but keep in mind that last night(first night as mole) you did not use a list check, and instead role checked foolishness. Since the beginning of Day 3 you haven't necessarily done anything super pro-town(I haven't actually checked though, so correct me if I'm wrong). You are confused about when the mole kicks in. The mole is inducted the dawn of day ( after night 2 ends). Today is day 4, yesterday was day 3, so I would have been informed I was a mole before I made my list check results public. Its irrelevant though, not lying once in no way clears me, however, I am pointing out that it should at least lessen the possibility that I am a mole. Also as far as I know my lists are now retroactive, so it should be able to spot the mole if he voted in the list I am checking. @Eiii, nice to know you checked me night 2, correct? | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 27 2011 09:28 GMarshal wrote: You are confused about when the mole kicks in. The mole is inducted the dawn of day ( after night 2 ends). Today is day 4, yesterday was day 3, so I would have been informed I was a mole before I made my list check results public. Its irrelevant though, not lying once in no way clears me, however, I am pointing out that it should at least lessen the possibility that I am a mole. Also as far as I know my lists are now retroactive, so it should be able to spot the mole if he voted in the list I am checking. @Eiii, nice to know you checked me night 2, correct? You're absolutely right GM, and it certainly does lessen the chance of you being the mole. | ||
Ver
United States2186 Posts
On May 27 2011 05:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Does GM's list check work retroactively? Would he be able to find a mole on a list from day one if he checks it tonight? Votechecks used after day 3, targeting earlier day's votes can find a mole, yes.. | ||
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Ver
United States2186 Posts
Night 4 ![[image loading]](http://www.nrawinningteam.com/bios01/jackson.jpg) Caller ran through the streets, firing shots over his shot at the angry town chasing him. After turning several corners, he came across a bunch of Japanese fans renacting the warring states period. Intrigued, he ran over, donned a costume of Oda Nobunaga, and joined in the fun. The town, out of clues, concluded he just went MIA again and gave up. Breathing a sigh of relief, Caller continued on with the battle. Unfortunately, as Caller led the charge he tripped on a rock and his butt was impaled by a rake. Caller the NRA member has been lynched. You have 24 hours to send in night actions to me. I might not be around quite on time, possibly up to 2 hours late tomorrow as I'm going out, but please make sure all night actions are in 24 hours from now anyways. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Ver
United States2186 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
1. Flamewheel - Chuiu Jack 2. Scamp [7][11] - Inventor 3. Caller [10][4] - NRA Member 4. Barundar [13][1] - Caller GF 5. Radfield 6. GMarshal [17][2] 7. Deconduo - vanilla 8. Foolishness [1][1] 9. bumatlarge [1][18] 10. Kavdragon [2][1] - vanilla 11. Chaoser [2][2] 12. Fishball [5][3] - Kingmaker 13. KillerSOS [5][11] - PYP tracker 14. Eiii [6][7] 15. Infinitestory [6][10] - Parity Cop 16. Dreamflower [4][1] 17. Mr.Wiggles [4][2] - NKVD agent 18. Original Name[4][6] - village idiot 19. tnkted [4][12] - bus driver 20. Chezinu - CPR doctor 21. Ace [9][11] - capitalist 22. Kurumi [9][x] - ackbar 23. Incognito[9][x] - America, fuck yeah! 24. Node [9][1] - Copycat 25. kitaman27 [9][1] | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
 postalso, lol at the night post :D | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
NRA Member You shoot anyone and anything that pokes its head out at you. The first person that tries to visit you each day and night gets killed at the end of the cycle and their action on you does not occur. Listchecks do not count, but everything else does. Role checks will reveal you as vanilla. The suicide bomber overrides your redneck defense. I think I pointed this out? Anyways, of the 8 of us left, 1 is the mole presumably, and I think it would be a little unfair to have more then one, since I think 8+/25 red even if they dont know each other with a possible traitor in the set-up is too much. I don't think anyone gave word on the traitor, so I guess until people come forward with other facts, we can ignore that. I think now it's just one mole? So I would suggest alignment checking now, since it is rare that he is the GF. Still very confused on the votecheck lists, since I see no framer/GF and the lists don't seem to add up properly? Maybe they do with a mole... Hm. Yeah 5 mafia make sense. GM use the votechecker on one of the lists radfield gave you. Basically getting a check on any list that doesn't include myself or chaoser, and has half the players, gives us a win. KillerSOS Day2. That basically narrows it down to where it is a guarenteed win. GM will probably get shot. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
Have to agree, kita has just been suspicious, but I think more so after night 2 then earlier. That does seem odd. Either way, GM is going to die, because if killerSOS pops a different number, kita is scum IMO, and if it doesnt foolishness is. That means I dont get shot, yay, and chaoser can check kita, and Eii can check foolishness' role. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
If he is a 6th mafia member(no mole in the game) then it's pretty much down to foolishness or kitaman, but I doubt thats the case. I think we need to play this as if there is a mole in our midst, as that is the most likely case. List of remaining players, and a case for them either being or not being the mole. Keep in mind that it's possible people have bussed their teammates, but I think we have to assume that mafia would have played for the win. Bumatlarge: Shot Ace, this pretty much clears him from being the mole. It's possible he could have bussed his teammate though, but I really doubt it. An extra kp would have been very nice for the mafia to have. Chaoser: Got a proper read on Caller(vanilla mafia) last night, and pointed him out as scum. Again, it's possible that he might have bussed he teammate, but I think he's telling the truth. I also think that Aces defenses of chaoser were the same as his defense of Barundar, a case of knowing someone is town, and therefore being able to defend them with confidence. I also don't think Ace would telegraph the mole that badly. GMarshal: Revealed a proper list check after he would have become the mole. Radfield: Was attacked repeatedly by Ace and pushed to be lynched. Meapak_Ziphh: Came out firing on Day 3 by pushing for both Ace and Caller to be lynched. Kept up his pressure on Caller, and kept up his posting regularity Foolishness: Attacked a fair bit by Chez, Kurumi and tnkted. Doesn't seemingly alter his playstyle once Day 3 hits. Has played somewhat scummy all game(calling for scum-hunting but not doing it, skim reading the thread, etc). Kitaman: Has a big blowout with Caller and pushes for his role claim. Otherwise seems reasonable in his posting. His activity goes way up once Day 3 hits, and not in a scummy way. Eiii: Has a total of 7 posts once Day 3 hits. None of them are substantial and only a couple are game related in any way(and only 1 is more than 1 line). He is also defended by Kurumi several times during the game when he didn't needed to be defended. Prior to Day 3, despite not having a lot of posts, all his posts were paragraphs, and all addressed game issues. My vote for the mole. ##Vote Eiii I'd like to look through the dead mafia posts again though(and I encourage everyone else to do the same), but this is a good start. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
There are 6 of 19 townies remaining. There are 1 of 6 Mafia remaining. There are ? of ? Moles remaining There are 8 players left in the game, so I really hope that should read "7 of 19 townies remaining". Or are we to infer that there are actually two anti-town players left in the game? I'm just going off the fact that you stated the set-up would be 6 total mafia/moles in the game. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
 Night Actions: Medic needs to protect GMarshal. GMarshal should check either the KillerSOS or the Barundar lists. Chaoser should check Foolishness, Kitaman or Eiii. Any remaining Town KP should be directed at Eiii. Eiii and any other role cops should be looking for a potential traitor, so anyone who does not have a confirmed or already checked role. I think this is either Kitaman and Meapak. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On May 27 2011 15:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Better just tackle the elephant in the room. Foolishness, kita and I are really the only unconfirmed people left at this point. The only thing I know is that I'm neither mole nor mafia so that leaves the other two. My gut says kita. What? When did the entire town suddenly get confirmed? Just because I haven't roll claimed, doesn't narrow down the mole suspects to two people. You're not making sense. + Show Spoiler + On May 20 2011 10:45 kitaman27 wrote: Logically if he is town, a mafia CPR doc would be my first thought. Caller, the person most likely with a kp, isn't really getting much attention and he is keeping quiet for the most part. I'm surprised everyone is so sold on him being town. On May 22 2011 14:21 kitaman27 wrote: 2/6 are scum Caller, Incognito, Chezinu, GMarshal, Node, flamewheel Guess where that leaves us. On May 23 2011 01:48 kitaman27 wrote: So you took the most troll role possible with the number 3 pick, while allowing the mafia to snag the CPR Doc? mmk. I suggest everyone read over this math. Apparently the assumption that 4 mafia were not on incog/kav implies 3 mafia were on barundar. There is absolutely no logic backing up this accusation. Furthermore, he completely omits all of the players who were single votes. Do they not count, or did you fuzzy math come to the conclusion that there must be 1 mafia in this list? This is garbage. On May 23 2011 03:48 kitaman27 wrote: Why is this a pretty reasonable assumption? You're treating it as fact, when it is clearly speculation. I didn't cleverly hide anything. I pointed out you created a list of your own choosing and said "look 3 mafia here!" Are you trying to say these posts are scummy? I see a vig shot declaration on Chez, pointing out that tnkted was thinking about selecting the bus driver role, and pressuring Node to protect GMarshal in order to scare off a mafia hit. Wow, you nailed the entire scum team? Bravo. On May 23 2011 04:59 kitaman27 wrote: So I'm scum because I point out a flaw in logic? What is your role? You clearly aren't going to get night hit any time soon so why are you so focused on hiding your claim? On May 23 2011 05:07 kitaman27 wrote: Fine don't role claim to scum. Role claim to the rest of town, because they certainly don't buy your story of selecting a troll roll either. On May 23 2011 20:09 kitaman27 wrote: Should we even be discussing alignment checks with the potential Framer and Godframer in play? I would rather trust the detectives to do what they think best and keep mafia in the dark. I'm also surprised more people aren't pushing Caller to role claim. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 27 2011 13:39 Ver wrote: Also I want to hear everyone's opinion on shorter days and maybe nights. I can end nights as soon as I know I get everyone's actions, and days can be shortened to 24 hours or less if the lynch is unanimous, or something in between. I think unanimous lynches should be shortened to 24 hour days. 24 Hour nights are generally fine as it gives some time to discuss the lynch flip and night actions. | ||
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Ver
United States2186 Posts
On May 27 2011 19:15 Radfield wrote: Ver, there is an error(I hope) in your OP: There are 8 players left in the game, so I really hope that should read "7 of 19 townies remaining". Or are we to infer that there are actually two anti-town players left in the game? I'm just going off the fact that you stated the set-up would be 6 total mafia/moles in the game. Error. Fixed. | ||
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