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On May 19 2011 14:36 KillerSOS wrote:
Why would you share that you are king? That's a dangerous thing to tell us.
Well I can get WHY he's telling us. It's so that there's no surprises and we can control his lynch. If he claims too late then we might get suspicious. But now politician and possibly journalist can control him. He could even be red, kill someone we didn't pick, pretend he got controlled by a politician that might not even exist and then we're stuck in WIFOM and a wild goose chase. For now I think we need to focus on the people we were focusing on yesterday, that being Incognito and Barundar. If it comes to it, we can ask for the double lynch and then deal with it when it comes.
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Well as King he has to lynch, so this is for sure a double lynch.
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United States4053 Posts
Can I get some opinions on my Incognito analysis? >_____> I feel like it got buried by a bunch of posts asking for analysis.
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I read it. You know I'm down with it homie.
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On May 19 2011 14:41 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 14:36 KillerSOS wrote:
Why would you share that you are king? That's a dangerous thing to tell us. Well I can get WHY he's telling us. It's so that there's no surprises and we can control his lynch. If he claims too late then we might get suspicious. But now politician and possibly journalist can control him. He could even be red, kill someone we didn't pick, pretend he got controlled by a politician that might not even exist and then we're stuck in WIFOM and a wild goose chase. For now I think we need to focus on the people we were focusing on yesterday, that being Incognito and Barundar. If it comes to it, we can ask for the double lynch and then deal with it when it comes.
That makes sense, thanks.
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On May 19 2011 14:42 Ace wrote:
Well as King he has to lynch, so this is for sure a double lynch.
Damn, just reread it. So kingmaker is basically a compulsive day vigi that can make someone shoot for him. If Journalist can make people say ##lynch: Player then that's a crazy combo.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On May 19 2011 14:52 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 14:42 Ace wrote:
Well as King he has to lynch, so this is for sure a double lynch. Damn, just reread it. So kingmaker is basically a compulsive day vigi that can make someone shoot for him. If Journalist can make people say ##lynch: Player then that's a crazy combo.
The Politician can do the same thing as well, though we need details cleared up a bit as to how exactly a Politician buying a King's vote turns up. Best tread carefully.
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On May 19 2011 14:44 infinitestory wrote:Can I get some opinions on my Incognito analysis? >_____> I feel like it got buried by a bunch of posts asking for analysis.
infinitestory the main problem with your analysis is that it seems a little bit too perfect. Almost as it if was a bus attempt. I'm not sure why, but I get that vibe for some reason. Probably will make a more rigorous analysis later today.
As for the day's events, well this is obviously to be expected. #1 and #2 get targeted, and one dies. Flamewheel has been giving out town vibes for me, and I've stated my opinion on that matter multiple times, and I don't think anyone has FOSd him just yet, so I think we can conclude that he was hit by a non-town role. Scamp had pretty much given away the fact that he was inventor, but I'm curious as to why nobody had provided medic protection to him. Either people are really that bad at this game, medics got wifomed, or some super special role did some shit. I don't think we can draw too many conclusions from this, but I would like to see how the accusations against Incognito and Baraundar end up. KillerSoS is still my FoS, especially with his typical risk adverse statements as
Why would you share that you are king? That's a dangerous thing to tell us. .
In any case, because I'm having writer's block, I'm opening up myself to peoples' requests. Give me something fishy and I'll see how I can work with it.
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If you're calling IS's post a bus attempt then you're accusing him of being Scum. Is that the angle you're playing Caller?
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I still get to type my lynch in the thread regardless of if there is a politician or not. If who I type to kill is not dead at the end of the day and someone else is, that confirms that there is a scum politician present. A townie redirecting is stupid. The politician can't make me type things, he only changes where my votes land from the role description.
I'm also going to fully comply with the town on who to lynch. So if any surprises happen, it's scum involvement. There was also always the threat of kingmaker/politician, and kingmaker/journalist combo, and this way town knows what's going on.
This was the most transparent way to go about this, by claiming at the start of the day, and not waiting. This way we have the most time to discuss and decide what we want to do with it.
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On May 19 2011 15:03 Ace wrote:
If you're calling IS's post a bus attempt then you're accusing him of being Scum. Is that the angle you're playing Caller?
i said i have the feeling its a bus attempt, kind of like the feeling you gave me last night, only this time it wasn't a total fantasy
tldr im working on it
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On May 19 2011 15:05 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I still get to type my lynch in the thread regardless of if there is a politician or not. If who I type to kill is not dead at the end of the day and someone else is, that confirms that there is a scum politician present. A townie redirecting is stupid. The politician can't make me type things, he only changes where my votes land from the role description.
I'm also going to fully comply with the town on who to lynch. So if any surprises happen, it's scum involvement. There was also always the threat of kingmaker/politician, and kingmaker/journalist combo, and this way town knows what's going on.
This was the most transparent way to go about this, by claiming at the start of the day, and not waiting. This way we have the most time to discuss and decide what we want to do with it.
If you're scum and your team has the Politician, you can still "comply" with the town regarding the lynch and have the Politician redirect the kill. All that I'm saying is it doesn't necessarily proves your innocence.
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United States4053 Posts
On May 19 2011 15:00 Caller wrote:infinitestory the main problem with your analysis is that it seems a little bit too perfect. Almost as it if was a bus attempt. I'm not sure why, but I get that vibe for some reason. Probably will make a more rigorous analysis later today.
If this analysis is bulletproof enough that it looks like a bus attempt, that only makes me more confident.
It's definitely not perfect, nor is it a bus attempt, though. I can't explain him tunneling on the vote rigger / m2dt combo, as I stated in the analysis.
As for this being a bus, I've been questioning Incog's posts since he first said KillerSOS was mafia way back when, and I don't reckon the mafia would start orchestrating a bus before the pick order comes out. Incognito's not exactly a prime choice for a bus either.
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0oes & (L)(0)(L) @ f;l.a*m;e',w-h=e)e-l f{o{r b#e%i!n@g t$o%o#w&n v8e5t3e6r0a1n a4s6 a8l2w4a5y7s-.
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On May 19 2011 15:34 Chezinu wrote:
H\e,y G[u[]y.s W/.e ne';eds t[o b{e e}xtr{e;m>e.l<y c9a)r(e%f#u$l a!b-o_u,t t^h*e e~x`p&l#o@s?i\o|n=s+.
0oes & (L)(0)(L) @ f;l.a*m;e',w-h=e)e-l f{o{r b#e%i!n@g t$o%o#w&n v8e5t3e6r0a1n a4s6 a8l2w4a5y7s-.
Y U STILL SO MAFIA
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On May 19 2011 15:37 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 15:34 Chezinu wrote:
H\e,y G[u[]y.s W/.e ne';eds t[o b{e e}xtr{e;m>e.l<y c9a)r(e%f#u$l a!b-o_u,t t^h*e e~x`p&l#o@s?i\o|n=s+.
0oes & (L)(0)(L) @ f;l.a*m;e',w-h=e)e-l f{o{r b#e%i!n@g t$o%o#w&n v8e5t3e6r0a1n a4s6 a8l2w4a5y7s-. Y U STILL SO MAFIA
B Kareful Tis coud be da koodward!
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Shortest game I've ever played.
Good luck town.
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On May 19 2011 15:51 Scamp wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Shortest game I've ever played.
Good luck town.
It might not be o,v,e,r... There could be a P=r-i(es)t a[m[on-g u's
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Denmark1582 Posts
On May 19 2011 14:41 chaoser wrote:
For now I think we need to focus on the people we were focusing on yesterday, that being Incognito and Barundar. If it comes to it, we can ask for the double lynch and then deal with it when it comes.
I'd love to hear your suspects and why, not just general finger pointing.
Mafia will probably have the inventor by now. Even if they chose Thief over Copy Cat, they would most likely steal role from Scamp before killing him.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On May 19 2011 16:00 Barundar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 14:41 chaoser wrote:
For now I think we need to focus on the people we were focusing on yesterday, that being Incognito and Barundar. If it comes to it, we can ask for the double lynch and then deal with it when it comes. I'd love to hear your suspects and why, not just general finger pointing. Mafia will probably have the inventor by now. Even if they chose Thief over Copy Cat, they would most likely steal role from Scamp before killing him.
Untrue for two reasons. Assume Mafia stole Inventor using the Thief. What happens then is Scamp would show up as vanilla in the flip. Furthermore, his invention could not have been made or given to anybody--the Thief prevents the usage of the role before it is stolen at the end of the night.
Does anybody else care who Scamp gave the invention to?
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