Wow. This is why I said post and defend yourself or something.

Don't get too taken aback by this guys. Blue roles don't win games, effective discussion and lynching win games.

Blues being sniped/mislynched kill town morale, but an active town > blue roles. Remember, blues should only supplement town's analysis and lynches.

Extremely disappointed at HardCorey's play though. sigh.

FezTheCaliph

United States492 Posts

April 25 2011 04:32 GMT

#207

Yea I know. Well we still have medic.I was staying up just to see this. Sighhh. Well I'm gonna go sleep and hope I don't get whacked.

FezTheCaliph

United States492 Posts

April 25 2011 04:33 GMT

#208

On April 25 2011 13:31 Conversion wrote:
Wow. This is why I said post and defend yourself or something.

Don't get too taken aback by this guys. Blue roles don't win games, effective discussion and lynching win games.

Blues being sniped/mislynched kill town morale, but an active town > blue roles. Remember, blues should only supplement town's analysis and lynches.

Extremely disappointed at HardCorey's play though. sigh.

Wow. That was actually really uplifting. Thanks!

vyro

United States22 Posts

April 25 2011 04:39 GMT

#209

wow that's disappointing to say the least... though with his inactivity, would he have investigated somebody anyway? >_>

is it wrong to discuss who we should medic at this point?

jaminz

United States208 Posts

April 25 2011 04:41 GMT

#210

I'm going to second Conversion's post. Obviously it's not good to have a blue killed on the first day, but we can still get through this. Keep your head up, and keep posting those analyses! I'll have a big one some time tomorrow most likely.

jaminz

United States208 Posts

April 25 2011 04:42 GMT

#211

On April 25 2011 13:39 vyro wrote:
wow that's disappointing to say the least... though with his inactivity, would he have investigated somebody anyway? >_>

is it wrong to discuss who we should medic at this point?

We can discuss anything, but I would strongly suggest that the medic not reveal him or herself for pretty much the entire game. If there is a medic, just look through the thread and decide based on posts who you think is the most valuable person to keep alive. If you think someone in particular is drawing attention to themselves, and think they're a valuable asset, it would make sense to pick them.

Conversion

United States3308 Posts

April 25 2011 04:42 GMT

#212

I'm going to head in for tonight. School tomorrow =/

Medic should use his power at his own discretion. Discussing during the night is generally frowned upon, unless it is analysis (I think Ver does this). Feel free to discuss whatever, I'm going to hit the bed. Sooo tired.

Let's hope we catch scum on our next lynch.

Conversion

United States3308 Posts

April 25 2011 04:43 GMT

#213

Ninja'd by jaminz.

Good night, guys!

aScle

Australia375 Posts

April 25 2011 06:47 GMT

#214

Ok so looking into the people who helped lynch HardCorey, we have

Conversion
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He starts the Vote on HardCorey as a pressure vote for him to contribute and keeps is vote on him due to his inactivity + suspicious sheeping behaviour.

Sirael
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The next one to start bandwagoning under the premise of pressure on HardCorey

Enervate
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Seems to bandwagon alot with on his voting and his previous suspicious behavior.
His vote seems to be mainly due to the pressure put on him by others voting on him.
Tries to convince others that he is just a scapegoat while pretty much scapegoating others.

On April 25 2011 05:14 Enervate wrote:
aScle is suspicious to me because he goes from not posting much to jumping on the vote on me. I'm a convenient scapegoat.

On April 25 2011 07:18 Enervate wrote:
Ok I guess I will follow the trend of voting for inactives as well.

##Unvote

##Vote HardCorey

Freestalker
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Starts his first vote on Phelix as a psuedo bandwagon choice with the reason being inactivity. Then changes votes for i believe Enervate for pretty much the same reason.
He justifies his subsquent vote change on HardCorey as "lower amount of inactives the better"

FezTheCaliph
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Last one to bandwagon
Starts vote on enervate and then swaps to hardcorey
it is worthy to note...

On April 25 2011 10:41 FezTheCaliph wrote:
3. HardCorey
Most inactive. Hasn't really said anything worth mentioning, just a random vote for the person everyone was voting for. Most likely not mafia but as he's been so inactive, he wont be missed.

wait so lets get this straight... you don't believe he is mafia and yet you voted for him. I thought the point of this game is to vote on mafia's and not random people.

freestalker

469 Posts

April 25 2011 07:49 GMT

#215

Hrm, I didn't expect to get here in this morning but I did and will comment on my reasoning behind voting for HardCorey. I didn't want to post that yesterday, but what the hell, this is newbie mafia.

I switched my vote for him for few very simple reasons..
One -- inactivity. Very simple. He probably doesn't even know he's dead yet.
Two -- There was a HUGE bandwagon on Enervate. And yet only person defending him was Enervate himself. He was easily about to get lynched. I have a belief if he was mafia someone would stand up for him. I am still not sure if he's mafia or not, though.
Three -- HardCorey wasn't forced to post at all with that low vote count. Everyone seemed to be happy voting for Enervate. With voting for HardCorey I pushed the voting in other direction, expecting to get some response from him, or defense from others (if he was mafia). I wasn't here after my last post because I was sleeping.

To be honest, the blame lies on HardCorey himself. But at least we have the voting info. This was a terrible first lynch.

FezTheCaliph

United States492 Posts

April 25 2011 09:00 GMT

#216

Just to defend my "he's most likely not mafia" statement, there were quite a few posts about voting for inactives. I agreed with the logic behind them and thats why I voted for the inactive player. I had no proof of him being mafia, or any strong reasons behind it other than that he was inactive, which is why I didn't feel he was mafia(lack of proof). I really didn't have any strong vibes off of anyone else, and I needed to get a vote in before the time ran up.

pHelix Equilibria

United States1134 Posts

April 25 2011 12:28 GMT

#217

On April 25 2011 16:49 freestalker wrote:

I switched my vote for him for few very simple reasons..
One -- inactivity. Very simple. He probably doesn't even know he's dead yet.

To be honest, the blame lies on HardCorey himself. But at least we have the voting info. This was a terrible first lynch.

It is a bad lynch but I mean being the most inactive, its not like he would've even done his role? HardCorey made it hard for himself. I am sad.

Rising_Phoenix

United States370 Posts

April 25 2011 13:35 GMT

#218

In retrospect, I took a quick look at Hardcorey's post count. I noticed he didn't post ANYTHING since April 25th. If we looked at his posting history in his profile before we made a decision, it would be really easy to see he wasn't on TL at all. However, we're were looking at the game out of context and didn't match up that he was completely gone. If we realized this, we could have saved Corey for a later lynch and instead voted for someone suspicious.

Oh well, we're learning at least.

Rising_Phoenix

United States370 Posts

April 25 2011 13:37 GMT

#219

Here is a profile of him to see he hasn't been on at all: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=HardCorey&gb=date

freestalker

469 Posts

April 25 2011 16:09 GMT

#220

Well, losing the cop is not -that- bad. If I remember correctly there was a game with no blue roles and town still won. We have to move on, the world won't collapse. I think we still have a pretty good chance to win.

As I said, keep your eyes open and try to be objective. We are left with mostly semi-active and active people, things should get a bit easier.

I think there are few targets that mafia would want to primarily target. Now it's really about luck of doctor for tonight.