• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:22
CEST 00:22
KST 07:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-67SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)11Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE17
StarCraft 2
General
Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 2/8 August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2
Tourneys
Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion Data needed BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60
Tourneys
SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6 2v2v2v2 Tournament [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The Clem Fan Club INnoVation Fan Club The Scarlett Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3495 users

Newbie Mini Mafia I - Page 15

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 13 14 15 All
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
April 29 2011 05:26 GMT
#281
Sorry ascle too late.

GG town. inactivity was the death of you, tbh. =/
aScle
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia375 Posts
April 29 2011 05:45 GMT
#282
T.T GG

well played

also i would of looked like a total jobber for that 2nd last post i didn't point my finger at you conversion.
Artosis: "Why did the collosus fall over? BECAUSE IT WAS IMBALANCED!!!"
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
April 29 2011 06:03 GMT
#283
GG Town. Inactivity in this game was probably the biggest problem.
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
freestalker
Profile Joined March 2010
469 Posts
April 29 2011 09:32 GMT
#284
I fking knew it >_< but it was hard to prove and it's too late for saying this gg
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
April 29 2011 11:13 GMT
#285
http://quicktopic.com/46/H/EBFgPxNgECgdq

there'a our quicktopic if anyone cares.

we revolved our plan around shooting jaminz and freestalker and winning off town inactivity.

Rising_Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States370 Posts
April 29 2011 12:44 GMT
#286
Hahah GG everyone. I stopped posting after Enervate died since everyone decided to give up.

Enervate made it so easy to look like he's mafia I decided to take initiative and push on him. No hard feelings but it was easy to convince people.

I made some mistakes but I would like to see an active player point them out =]

GG all, hope to see you in other games!
Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man stupid and blind in the eyes
freestalker
Profile Joined March 2010
469 Posts
April 29 2011 13:12 GMT
#287
thanks for sharing the quicktopic guys, was a fun read.
pHelix Equilibria
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1134 Posts
April 29 2011 13:44 GMT
#288
good game.
jaminz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States208 Posts
April 29 2011 15:29 GMT
#289
Good game guys. I think it was generally the inactivity that killed us, though I surely didn't help with my misreads on vyro and Enervate. I guess I need to work on my analysis skills more than I thought. I'll take a look a the quicktopic sometime later.
"Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart, kid, and you'll never go wrong" - The Great Bambino, The Sandlot
Rising_Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States370 Posts
April 29 2011 18:36 GMT
#290
On April 30 2011 00:29 jaminz wrote:
Good game guys. I think it was generally the inactivity that killed us, though I surely didn't help with my misreads on vyro and Enervate. I guess I need to work on my analysis skills more than I thought. I'll take a look a the quicktopic sometime later.


Well I did kinda help push on it =].
Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man stupid and blind in the eyes
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
April 29 2011 19:13 GMT
#291
Thanks to DocH for taking time out to host this for us.

Hope you guys play some other games here!
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 02 2011 15:20 GMT
#292
On April 29 2011 21:44 Rising_Phoenix wrote:
I made some mistakes but I would like to see an active player point them out =]

GG all, hope to see you in other games!


I was kinda following along. Looking back, here are a few things that stood out.

On April 24 2011 04:50 Rising_Phoenix wrote:
##Unvote

Sorry I was at a horn concert and doing some other stuff as well.

First, looking at this mathematically there are 11 players, 3 of which are mafia. If you randomly choose a person there is a approx. 27% chance of getting it right. However, choosing randomly is a bad idea since you never know if you're lynching an important member (cop or medic).

The cop should look up a random member that isn't himself(obviously). That means there is a 3 in 10 chance of him being right (30%). If he is right, he should be able to hint to everyone else who is mafia. That leaves everyone else voting on another person. If you know who the cop/detective is, that leaves a 3 in 9 chance (33%) of being right. That's from 1/5 to 1/3 probability of being right. I don't know how well this works for day one but numbers are fun =].

----- Break for other half---
Leadership for townies is essential, and right now it looks like Conversion and Freestalker are the two most active in leading conversation and topics. Unless one of them slips up, I'd refrain from killing either of them for now.


This is an example of a huge scum post that says absolutely nothing. You suggest obvious ideas, such as the town shouldn't lynch at random, the cop shouldn't check himself, and that leadership is important. Your statistical argument seemed more confusing than constructive.

On April 24 2011 04:50 Rising_Phoenix wrote:
aScle and Jaminz have had very little to contribute. Their posts have little to no content


This is part of the same post later on. At this point, someone could have called you out for being a hypocrite. Your posts have provided just as little content as theirs. In addition, you are selectively calling out certain inactives, while excluding others. Your scum buddy Fez has been just as inactive, but never appeared on any of your lists.

On April 24 2011 11:39 Rising_Phoenix wrote:
And here's another thought: The more we post trying to figure out mafia, the more the mafia is trying to figure out important roles: the doctor and the detective. Posting is a two sided sword. Post too much and people thing you're either trying to be too good or being too active for a reason, or too inactive you're trying to hard something. Sometimes an inactive poster is just and inactive poster for one reason or another.


Don't post this. It looks really scummy if you are trying to discourage the town from posting. In addition, this has been the third or fourth post you have been talking about blues. It makes me wonder why you are so focused on them (sniping?).

On April 25 2011 22:35 Rising_Phoenix wrote:
In retrospect, I took a quick look at Hardcorey's post count. I noticed he didn't post ANYTHING since April 25th. If we looked at his posting history in his profile before we made a decision, it would be really easy to see he wasn't on TL at all. However, we're were looking at the game out of context and didn't match up that he was completely gone. If we realized this, we could have saved Corey for a later lynch and instead voted for someone suspicious.

Oh well, we're learning at least.


This post is when the town possibly could have pushed for your lynch. What kind of town takes a look back at the most recent lynch candidate after the fact to see if he looked green? People should have been suspicious that you defend him after the fact, rather than before. They might think maybe you were withholding information to make sure the lynch goes through. This kind of post screams of guilt.

On April 26 2011 05:27 Rising_Phoenix wrote:
@Sirael don't you mean 12am?

Really right now I think we should be figuring out who to protect for night one. Here are possible people for doc to protect:

1) Free: most active poster, trying to figure out who jumped the bandwagon and likes to push pressure on other members to get them to contribute. Right now inactivity is our biggest weakness since it is allowing mafia to potentially hide as lurkers in the thread.

2) Jaminz: Excellent constructive posts, and is willing to argue a case if he thinks he's right and uses good arguments to prove his points.

3) Conversion: Helping us rally on a, to be honest, pretty bad loss. Even though Corey was definitely inactive, and therefore useless, it helps that someone is helping us push on to find who is mafia.

4) Myself: I'm selfish, and I want protection =]. Also, if Jaminz, myself, or aScle, who all voted for Enervate, were to die, than it would mean Enervate could be mafia trying to save his skin.


Calling for medic protection without really showing you are worth it. Maybe not 100% scummy, but I'm weary of people who direct blues.

On April 26 2011 23:36 Rising_Phoenix wrote:
Wow the forum exploded since I was asleep.

There is something interesting I am noticing. As we are chasing against Vyro there is someone completely missing from the conversation.

Enervate.

Think about who would most benefit from a change of focus. Enervate was 2nd highest in the vote count as lynching, Me, Jaminz, and aScle voted against him and remained against him. Because of Jaminz post against vyro, we're all suddenly attacking him. And to be honest, there is a pretty convincing case against him. But isn't it odd that Enervate, #2 on day1 lynch, hasn't posted anything since his defense? He gave no help in analysis and his defense of not being mafia were, to be honest, pretty bad.

Looking at his post history he's been active in other threads so we know he's not dead, but he hasn't posted in this one. History here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=Enervate&gb=date

If anyone has a good counterargument let me know, but for now he looks incredibly suspicious.


Pushing a WIFOM argument. It worked in the end, so I guess I can't complain.

Overall, it seems like you did a pretty good job pushing your goals. Congrats.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Prev 1 13 14 15 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 38m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 42
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 9717
Artosis 401
HiyA 46
Dota 2
420jenkins422
NeuroSwarm144
capcasts10
League of Legends
Doublelift5185
Counter-Strike
summit1g5555
tarik_tv3399
FalleN 2803
Other Games
Grubby2109
hungrybox743
C9.Mang0292
ToD279
White-Ra112
UpATreeSC110
XaKoH 93
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 42
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 37
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21042
Other Games
• imaqtpie978
• Shiphtur298
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 38m
The PondCast
11h 38m
OSC
11h 38m
INu's Battles
12h 38m
Percival vs Cure
Classic vs Clem
Replay Cast
1d 1h
Escore
1d 11h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 12h
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs SHIN
Clem vs Solar
Serral vs Rogue
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
[ Show More ]
The Patches Monday
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-04
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.