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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 01 2011 21:15 GMT
#641
Ok. Cool. I get that.

However, do we have a decent chance of finding the 3rd? Possibly. You're one of the candidates for that 3rd. There's a few others as well. We can always go after them today, rather than Ace and sandroba.

However, why would the mafia want someone who can intercept messages to survive for another night? If Ace becomes useless tomorrow, or dies tonight, we'll have our answer. And if sandroba dies tonight as well, we'll know enough as well.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
May 01 2011 21:30 GMT
#642
Ok, got permission from iGrok. Basically I'm a bulletproof miller.

Down-on-your-luck Stock Broker
Everything was going you way in the mid 2000s. Then the economy tanked, you lost most of your wealth, and your wife divorced you and took what was left! Now you are stuck roaming the streets of Liquidville. Because you are homeless, everyone in town is suspicious of you – investigations on you will always return “Not Town”. Fortunately for you, though, at night you can disappear into the alleyways, making it impossible to find (and then shoot) you!


I am not informed if I get hit. I am not immune to night actions, just bullets. The crumb i posted earlier was the capital letters from this role pm.

My play this game should be much clearer now. I wanted to avoid DT checks but attract bullets. Luckily it looks like the vigs all targeted other people, so I didn't waste any town resources. I didn't want to post this quite yet, in the hope that scum would try to hit me again, but I decided that wasn't likely to happen since I've made it too obvious what I was. Its time to post it now though because I'm distracting people with my role and its better to just have this all out in the open.

The strange role comment is because I've never heard of a bulletproof miller before. Thats weird but also really smart!
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 21:32 GMT
#643
Whoever thought of that role is an evil genius.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
May 01 2011 21:38 GMT
#644
That's better than a bus driver on hallucinogens tnkted.
Life can only kill you once.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 22:39 GMT
#645
We've got relatively few players left at this point, and all the information I expected to get today is on the table, so I'm going to post my general reads on everybody, in case anyone was wondering.

Impervious: He's a little suspicious because of his eagerness to side with bum + the breadcrumb Ace intercepted, but I'm getting a town vibe from him, and his posts have been generally constructive and town friendly, if you discount a few early game spam posts/1 liners.

Jackal58: He handled the bumatlarge accusation well, but his response to Ace's claim has been very suspicious to me. Looking through his previous posts, I get a scummy vibe. I could go through post-by-post and elaborate if people really want me too, but in the interest of time I'll just leave it at that for now.

Mr. Wiggles: He was quite quiet early on, but his activity rose sharply after his finals ended, and he's been posting with quality and frequency since then. I'm calling this strong town play.

Ace: I'm inclined to believe Ace's roleclaim, because the evidence fits and his logic and reasoning are solid. I don't agree with the lynch on bum which he spearheaded, but bum could easily have been scum, and the illogic and stupidity of his DT claim didn't help his case. Also, Sandroba's vet claim supports Ace's claim.

Eiii: Lurking. Not town friendly. Occasionally pops in with a post, but has made some questionable decisions, and isn't being helpful to the town. Not much more to say about him, because he hasn't given me much to analyze.

VarpuliS: I'm pretty sure that I'm town. Still on the fence though. I'll post later with an update + Show Spoiler +
jkjkjkjk


tnkted: His actions make a lot of sense now seeing as his role is a miller who can absorb infinity nightkills. He wanted to attract hits with his blueclaim early on but stay inconspicous enough that DT's wouldn't check him. I'm buying that role. It's just as weird as he said, and I understand now why he didn't claim it earlier.

darmousseh: This dude is lurking so hardcore that he's worse than useless. He's just an extra vote for the bandwagon, and a player who we need to get rid of soon. Either today or tomorrow, we need to lynch him before lylo. I cannot stress that enough. Also, he never posted the analysis he promised to.

Sandroba: His vet claim makes a lot of sense, considering the events of last night. He's been quite pro-town with his posting, but then again I only skimmed the first half of them because I don't need further convincing. Maybe I'm just naive.

And that just about wraps it up! One of those names is almost definitely mislabeled, and it's probably either Impervious or Eiii, because one of the two of them is almost certainly the third mafia member.

For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
May 01 2011 22:54 GMT
#646
Please do.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
May 01 2011 23:00 GMT
#647
The fact that I'm calling Ace's to good to be true claim bullshit doesn't make me scum. The fact that you're buying it makes me question if you still believe in the Easter bunny.
Life can only kill you once.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 01 2011 23:01 GMT
#648
Analyze Jackal if you think he's scum, I'm interested in what it looks like to you.

I'd also like to see Darm's and San's analysis that they promised, they could be very revealing to me about who the scum are.

Also, If the host doesn't mind, can San post the flavor text from his role? I'm somewhat curious at the moment if it's a fake claim or not, because "Ex-Marine" is the bulletproof role from Survivor mafia, so either iGrok reused the name, or else it looks like San needed a name for a claim and found that one.
you gotta dance
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
May 01 2011 23:07 GMT
#649
I think tnkted may have learned a lot from Kavs use of prefabricated role claiming in Insane II
I don't know where I'm at with him yet.
Life can only kill you once.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 23:09 GMT
#650
Sandroba isn't in Survivor mafia, iirc, but he might have been reading through it, it's true.

Analysis of Jackal coming soon, as requested.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
May 01 2011 23:12 GMT
#651
Don't forget the breadcrumbs.

ARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Life can only kill you once.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 01 2011 23:12 GMT
#652
Ok, got permission from iGrok (to post).


I assume the same rules are allowed to anyone wanting to claim
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 23:43 GMT
#653
Jackal58

Analysis skipped. After reading through the thread, specifically the last 10 pages, I'm starting to get more of a town vibe from Jackal. He didn't support the bum lynch, and although his opinion about ace/sandroba differs from my own, he's got a good point. I was just sort of calling him scum for disagreeing with me, mostly, and seeing scumtells where there were none. Very bad play on my part.

Now I've got to figure out who the scum actually are. Jackal as scum makes all my assumptions work out, but if he's town then at least one and probably more of my previous reads is dead wrong. Take that stuff with a large grain of salt, folks.

For now, my vote goes back to guess who? Darmousseh.

##Unvote: Jackal58
##Vote: darmousseh
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 23:48 GMT
#654
Oops, I forgot all the breadcrumbs. nvm, Jackal is definitely scum.
+ Show Spoiler +
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 02 2011 04:58 GMT
#655
I'm posting this drunk but I hope it makes sense. Tomorrow I'll post a more thourough analysis if needed.
I previously stated taht I believed jackal to be town but after seen ace's LOL messages I am convinced taht he's mafia.
On April 25 2011 21:46 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 21:41 sandroba wrote:
I think this discussion about breadcrumbs is not productive at all, specially if you reveal your strategy before you put it in practice. Doing what you are suggesting is going to make scumhunting more difficult imo. Also I don't think that's the way mafia is going to identify each other, as there are several other more obvious ways I can think of.

Please share.

On April 25 2011 23:14 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 22:58 sandroba wrote:
On April 25 2011 22:54 Ace wrote:
On April 25 2011 22:46 sandroba wrote:
Ace, I trust your analysis and think you are a smart player, but I don't like the idea of feeding ideas to the cell leader. I don't see how this can be helpful for town as I can think of other methods of comunicating with the sleeper agents that do not involve using the posts in this thread.


Well you can keep those methods to yourself since you don't seem intent on sharing. What I'm doing here is something else. Guess you'll just have to read into it a bit more.

I'm going to post my three people without the msg then.
Ace, GM, Mr. Wiggles.
I would inform them of all other mafia players so they can operate normally without the fear of mislynching one of the other agents.

Well thanks for that. And how would you transmit this information? You said you can do so without posting anything in the thread. I'm curious how that mechanic would work. You can't send names. You can only contact 1 at a time. You have 5 words or 20 characters/msg.
Please don't answer that. God forbid the cell leader gets his hands on super secret stealth communications abilities.
Please stop posting pointless "I would do something but I'm not telling you what it is" posts.
This thread is for discussion. If you don't feel you can discuss something don't mention it. You're beginning to look a lot like somebody that wants to post a lot of useless stuff just to appear to be contributing.

I thought at first he was too careless and naive to be mafia, but after seen the messages from ace and the fact that he came back as "insuficient information" from bum's check, I believe him to be the cell leader. Those messages are so bad it makes sense that jackal is scum. I've read other games and his meta is definitively diferent than when he was town so I believe he is scum. Jackal if you realy are cell leader, I must say you should be ashamed of yourself because those messages are LOL.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 02 2011 05:26 GMT
#656
BrownBear is subbing in for darmousseh.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 02 2011 05:31 GMT
#657
Oh boy. Please be more active, BrownBear.

Off to bed for me now.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 02 2011 05:41 GMT
#658
Hey san, can you give us your full role?
you gotta dance
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 02 2011 14:15 GMT
#659
soooooo what are we doing today?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
May 02 2011 14:25 GMT
#660
On May 02 2011 13:58 sandroba wrote:
I'm posting this drunk but I hope it makes sense. Tomorrow I'll post a more thourough analysis if needed.
I previously stated taht I believed jackal to be town but after seen ace's LOL messages I am convinced taht he's mafia.
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 21:46 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 25 2011 21:41 sandroba wrote:
I think this discussion about breadcrumbs is not productive at all, specially if you reveal your strategy before you put it in practice. Doing what you are suggesting is going to make scumhunting more difficult imo. Also I don't think that's the way mafia is going to identify each other, as there are several other more obvious ways I can think of.

Please share.

Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 23:14 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 25 2011 22:58 sandroba wrote:
On April 25 2011 22:54 Ace wrote:
On April 25 2011 22:46 sandroba wrote:
Ace, I trust your analysis and think you are a smart player, but I don't like the idea of feeding ideas to the cell leader. I don't see how this can be helpful for town as I can think of other methods of comunicating with the sleeper agents that do not involve using the posts in this thread.


Well you can keep those methods to yourself since you don't seem intent on sharing. What I'm doing here is something else. Guess you'll just have to read into it a bit more.

I'm going to post my three people without the msg then.
Ace, GM, Mr. Wiggles.
I would inform them of all other mafia players so they can operate normally without the fear of mislynching one of the other agents.

Well thanks for that. And how would you transmit this information? You said you can do so without posting anything in the thread. I'm curious how that mechanic would work. You can't send names. You can only contact 1 at a time. You have 5 words or 20 characters/msg.
Please don't answer that. God forbid the cell leader gets his hands on super secret stealth communications abilities.
Please stop posting pointless "I would do something but I'm not telling you what it is" posts.
This thread is for discussion. If you don't feel you can discuss something don't mention it. You're beginning to look a lot like somebody that wants to post a lot of useless stuff just to appear to be contributing.

I thought at first he was too careless and naive to be mafia, but after seen the messages from ace and the fact that he came back as "insuficient information" from bum's check, I believe him to be the cell leader. Those messages are so bad it makes sense that jackal is scum. I've read other games and his meta is definitively diferent than when he was town so I believe he is scum. Jackal if you realy are cell leader, I must say you should be ashamed of yourself because those messages are LOL.

I am not the cell leader. I am not scum. Those messages are pure fabrication by Ace.
I also resent the implication that I'm stupid. "Herp derp. Stoopid messages Jackal must be the cell leader derp"
You're scum. I know it. You know it. Ace knows it. Claiming Vig/vet tandem is as old as this game is. They're both one and done roles that require no further actions from you guys because you would have none. So easy peasy claims to make.
If Ace was vig/sooper spy or whatever he wants to call it he would have claimed his shot moments before the day post went up. Anything after that is suspect. You popping up with a vet claim right after his sooper spy claim is just as bogus. You two are scum.
Life can only kill you once.
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