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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 01 2011 18:03 GMT
#621
Varp why should we lynch darm over lets say Vain or any other lurker?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 18:25 GMT
#622
Vain has been modkilled. Are there other lurkers left who I don't know about?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 01 2011 18:27 GMT
#623
Eiii? Then again compared to darm everyone else is active. I forgot Vain got modkilled.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 18:29 GMT
#624
Not only has Darm been lurking, but the few posts that he's made have been sheeping and bandwagoning.

+ Show Spoiler [previous analysis] +
On April 30 2011 07:04 VarpuliS wrote:
##Vote: Darmousseh

Hardcore lurker here. Has contributed practically nothing. His posts:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 15:02 darmousseh wrote:
Hi guys, last three games i either died or got lynched day 1, please don't, i'm town and I want to help town out.

Also FOS on anyone suggesting that we use vigilante right away as we have zero information right now.

That is all for now.

He's town and he wants to help town... by not contributing anything. Very helpful /sarcasm
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 15:04 darmousseh wrote:
On April 25 2011 11:41 Vain wrote:
On April 25 2011 11:38 Jackal58 wrote:
Well Gman. Since it appears that only you and I are playing and I know what I am huge fos on you.
In other words I'm going to bed.


Hey, i'm still here too. Am going to bed now BECAUSE ITS 5 AM HERE

btw, maby dt's should double check if they get that not info sufficient thingy if they have enough time and the player looks trusted. oh well, we'll see how it plays out. Goodnight!



Vain, I hope you aren't a dt because that is the most obvious blue tell ever in my opinion.

How is this a blue tell? It's on day 1, and he's making a suggestion to the dt's. I'm not sure how that makes him blue. Not super helpful.
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 16:10 darmousseh wrote:
On April 25 2011 15:33 sandroba wrote:
EBWOP: I also agree that pointing out vigilantes is not a blue tell, but neither is the post he quoted, which is basically the same thing. If he thinks that what vain did is a blue tell he wouldn't do it if he was blue. He would only do it if he wants to appear to be blue.



I did it because it's the biggest blue tell in the world.


"Hey guys, let's dt check someone, don't mind me". It's just bad play, that's it. I have no FoS on him, i'm just saying that if he is dt, then we are screwed because mafia would probably pick that up faster than I did.

For this very reason, I recommend a dt checks vein because if he isn't the dt, then he's probably scum with the whole "don't mind me" phrase.

Please note that the post of vain's that he quoted above was the only post vain had made. There's not evidence here that I'm ignoring. Still not sure how vain slipped that he was dt. This is a small contribution, there are flaws in the reasoning, and he never follows up on it.
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On April 26 2011 01:33 darmousseh wrote:
On April 26 2011 01:16 Rean wrote:
On April 26 2011 00:43 Ace wrote:
Good job Rean, contribute more please. You're path to the lynch wagon won't take long with shit posts like that.

Post your lists or at least give some damn good reasons why this is useless.


How about you give us a reason as to why this is NOT a waste of time? How is knowing what everyone would pick in the hypothetical situation they're GF getting us anywhere close to catching scum?



I'm in agreement with rean, this doesn't seem like it will help at all. It's better to just try to analyze behavior and get information. It is different than normal mafia, but tells shouldn't be any different than a normal game. The biggest difference is that the mafia can't bus anyone and they are likely to be as sheepy as the rest of town and so it will be difficult to determine scum behavior off of voting patterns only.

Ace has already explained their purpose, so I won't again, but part of the idea was to get people talking. Darmousseh never posted a list.
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On April 27 2011 00:58 darmousseh wrote:
I like Gmarshal's post about wiggles, but I would take it farther since his posts seem suspect. Obviously I won't believe his list for sleeper agents, but I can take a guess that mr wiggles is probably scum.

##Vote: Mr. Wiggles

I can't seem to find the post that he's referring to. This is sheeping though, and not a good contribution. I'm assuming that GMarshal was just pressuring Wiggles for inactivity, because he removed the vote promptly. Nobody ever argued that wiggles was scum (up until that point in the game at least)
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On April 27 2011 02:20 darmousseh wrote:
On April 27 2011 02:13 Zorkmid wrote:
EBWOP:
Another thought Maybe Tkdted is seeking the protection of a possible medic role?


It's pretty obvious what he is, but apparently calling out people when they make themselves too obvious to the mafia is frowned upon. People need to stop making so many tells, seriously.

What is he? I didn't catch that. He just said "my role is weird" I'm not sure about the tells thing. Darm seems to see them everywhere.

That's all! No contribution, no analysis, just filler posts agreeing with other people or being paranoid about blues. Step it up.


This still stands. His only post after is:
On April 30 2011 10:56 darmousseh wrote:
i don't really have time to play this game. voting bumatlarge

An excuse and a bandwagon.

On May 01 2011 16:40 darmousseh wrote:
yay! I didn't die on day/night 1. I'm so happy Tomorrow I'm going to write out my analysis of the game so far.

Promise for an analysis that he still hasn't posted.

He's not an urgent lynch, but he's not helping the town. I'm torn right now between him and Jackal.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 18:33 GMT
#625
EBWOP:
His only posts after is are:
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 01 2011 20:20 GMT
#626
On May 02 2011 02:56 Ace wrote:
why are you playing the result? You sure seemed convinced he was a DT before he popped.

Show nested quote +

I don't see the reasoning for a red claiming as DT. It seems like such a dumb move. It instantly paints a giant target on them when he's still alive the next day. And if the mafia don't eliminate him tonight, then they risk him actually finding a mafia (assuming that Jackal is green).

And, of course, if he's green, it could be an interesting play, if you really had a strong read on someone.

I don't think it's a good idea to lynch him. Voting for someone other than Jackal, based on some kind of analysis, would be fine if you don't believe bum, but lynching him is really fucking dumb right now.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Oh my bad, I guess posts like this don't mean you believe bum but that everyone else is stupid.

Yes, everyone who is town that bandwagoned him is stupid.

There, I said it.

For reasons stated above. We would have had a lot more useful information right now had he been spared. Regardless of what his actual role was.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
May 01 2011 20:24 GMT
#627
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 02 2011 02:28 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 02:04 Jackal58 wrote:
On May 02 2011 01:30 sandroba wrote:
First of all, I'd like to apologise for not posting much for the last couple days. I'm not at home right now and I'm posting this through my phone.
Second, I'm ex-marine (vet) and I got shot last night. My main FoS right now is Darmousseh, Eiii and Jackal58. I believe Imprevious to be town. I'll post some analysis when I arrive.

I don't think I'm buying this either. If a vig shot last night why would they shoot GGQ or you? I'm the one with a great big fucking target on my back.


um...what target?

Anyway I was going to shoot Impervious last night but switched to GGQ. 2 things that stood out to me:

1.) Asking about darmousseh. There are a couple of lurkers this game and he was the third person to ask about this specific lurker.

2.) My message intercepts

As an undercover agent I intercepted parts of 2 messages so far:

"watch the Canadian"

"likes men's magazine"

The first had something to do with either Impervious or Mr.Wiggles and I chose Impervious.

The second I figured pointed to GGQ

3.) When GGQ asked me my opinion of Wiggles analysis on Impervious that was my gut shot. For someone barely in the thick of things all game he chose an opportune time to get involved.

Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 21:25 Jackal58 wrote:
On May 01 2011 13:22 Ace wrote:
On May 01 2011 13:19 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Then why does the day post say that the sleeper agents shot one of their own?


If you were the head of the FBI and had an undercover agent on the inside would you tell the press?

So you're claiming to be some sort of double agent with a gun???
Wtf kind of claim is that?
And if it's true why the fuck would you claim that?
That makes less sense than bum claiming DT so early.(wtf bum )
You seriously want us to believe you are vigi/sooper spy?
Day 1 you call me scummiest player in the game.
Day 2 you tear bum a new one and lead the charge on his lynch after he
calls me scum. Yet according to you I'm the scummiest player in the game.
Day 3 you claim vig/sooper spy.
Day 3 I call bullshit.

If you are on the "inside" as you say you're actions make no sense what so ever.
You push the DT lynch over who you believe to be the scummiest player.
If you are on the inside this just doesn't add up. You would have known bum and I were both town and pushed for a 3rd party for the lynch. Not one of us.
I'm not buying it.
If you have some sort of role that allows you to get info on the scum team and shoot them why would you claim it????


I'm an undercover Agent with 1 shot and get parts intercepted messages from the CL. So I have no more shots anyway and I'm pretty sure we're close to winning this especially seeing how panicked you are. If you are a townie you should be glad I chose correctly because if I missed I'd be automatically killed also. Something tells me you aren't though.

I'm not panicked. I'm not paranoid. You're confusing my incredulous reaction with a panicked or or paranoid reaction. You say you think we're close to winning. Define "we". If you had a shot and you were town I'd be dead. Then I would no longer be a lynch discussion. I call bullshit. Plain and simple.
Did I want to get shot? Hell no. Did I expect to? Hell yes. This stinks so bad it's not even funny.
Day 1 I was scummy. Day 2 bum and I could both be green. Day 3 you're a super spy. The only reason I'm not dead is so you can get me lynched. Let town do your scummy work for you. You're a vig like I'm Santa Claus.
##VOTE: Ace
Life can only kill you once.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 01 2011 20:26 GMT
#628
Did I claim Vigilante?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
May 01 2011 20:30 GMT
#629
On May 02 2011 05:26 Ace wrote:
Did I claim Vigilante?

You're spewing so much bullshit you're forgetting what bullshit you already spread.
On May 01 2011 13:15 Ace wrote:
Actually let me post now so I dont have to deal with Impervious trying to make up stuff from my posts:

Last night I shot GGQ and I know my bullet went through because I didn't get a message saying my hit failed.

Life can only kill you once.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 01 2011 20:32 GMT
#630
I didn't role claim Vigi. I said Undercover Agent. Learn to read thanks.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
May 01 2011 20:37 GMT
#631
On May 02 2011 05:32 Ace wrote:
I didn't role claim Vigi. I said Undercover Agent. Learn to read thanks.

And Bill Clinton never had sexual relations with that woman.

Call it whatever you want to. I don't care. You're claiming you have a role that allows you to be judge jury and executioner. I call bull shit.

Life can only kill you once.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 01 2011 20:39 GMT
#632
*yawn*
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
May 01 2011 20:41 GMT
#633
On May 02 2011 05:39 Ace wrote:
*yawn*

You need a dirt nap.
Life can only kill you once.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 20:45 GMT
#634
Jackal, your defense is basically just saying that if he was town aligned, he would have hit you and not GGQ.

Can I get the reasoning behind that? Seriously, I feel like I'm missing something here. You claim townie, yet you say that because you didn't die, Ace's Undercover Agent claim is fake because he claims to have killed GGQ, even though GGQ was scum.

Refusing to accept the claim as well as the supporting evidence behind it and making what is basically an OMGUS vote makes me ever the more suspicious of you.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 01 2011 20:47 GMT
#635
To clarify: Ace having used his role to it's potential means that he's faking the role. great logic /sarcasm.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
May 01 2011 20:55 GMT
#636
Yes I'm happy GGQ died. But I don't believe for one second Ace was responsible.
Life can only kill you once.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 01 2011 20:58 GMT
#637
Do you believe sandroba's claim of being hit as a veteran? Because, if so, Ace's claim makes sense.

Either you think that sandroba and Ace are both mafia, or you think neither are at this point. I am leaning towards "neither".
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 01 2011 21:02 GMT
#638
I want to see tnkted claim as well, because I think it might help clarify this situation. Also, if there's a DT that checked either san/ace, and got a positive return back, now would be a good time to claim your results, they'd help us figure out who's town or not.
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 01 2011 21:03 GMT
#639
EBWOP I want to see *tnkted's* claim

He says he's going to claim, so I can only hope that he thought it through. If he is set on claiming however, I'd rather see that before I make any decisions in case it contains relevant information.
you gotta dance
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
May 01 2011 21:05 GMT
#640
On May 02 2011 05:58 Impervious wrote:
Do you believe sandroba's claim of being hit as a veteran? Because, if so, Ace's claim makes sense.

Either you think that sandroba and Ace are both mafia, or you think neither are at this point. I am leaning towards "neither".

No I don't believe him either. Simple scenario. CL knows who his agents are. He knows who they vote for. They voted for GGQ. Ace sends a simple message. Claim vet. He pulls this bs out of his ass. Boom 2 scum confirmed townies.

The role he is claiming is BS. It's imba out the wazoo.
Hi. You're intelligence agent. You can intercept messages. Oh and here have a gun. Bull shit.
Life can only kill you once.
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