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+ Show Spoiler +On May 01 2011 22:50 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 22:30 VarpuliS wrote:
@Vain: sit out XXXIX, it's about to start.
@Jackal: Let's wait and see. I'm expecting a full claim from ace, somebody to claim they got hit, and possibly a claim from Tnkted. If nobody claims that they took a hit, then I will agree with you that Ace's claim is bullshit. Plenty of people are still sleeping now, I assume, so it'd be best to wait until all of the facts are on the table before coming to conclusions. If Ace had just claimed vig I wouldn't be so fast to fos him. Like you I would wait a bit. But he added this bullshit: Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 13:19 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Then why does the day post say that the sleeper agents shot one of their own? If you were the head of the FBI and had an undercover agent on the inside would you tell the press? That is pure bullshit and pure Ace as scum.
EBWOP Quote fail.
On May 01 2011 13:22 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 13:19 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Then why does the day post say that the sleeper agents shot one of their own? If you were the head of the FBI and had an undercover agent on the inside would you tell the press?
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I'm waiting on iGrok to reply to my PM, I don't want to get modkilled for posting this. 
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@tnkted: Did you get hit last night?
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I'm waiting to hear this as well.
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First of all, I'd like to apologise for not posting much for the last couple days. I'm not at home right now and I'm posting this through my phone.
Second, I'm ex-marine (vet) and I got shot last night. My main FoS right now is Darmousseh, Eiii and Jackal58. I believe Imprevious to be town. I'll post some analysis when I arrive.
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On May 02 2011 01:30 sandroba wrote:
First of all, I'd like to apologise for not posting much for the last couple days. I'm not at home right now and I'm posting this through my phone.
Second, I'm ex-marine (vet) and I got shot last night. My main FoS right now is Darmousseh, Eiii and Jackal58. I believe Imprevious to be town. I'll post some analysis when I arrive.
I don't think I'm buying this either. If a vig shot last night why would they shoot GGQ or you? I'm the one with a great big fucking target on my back.
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Okay then, now we've got some information. Sandroba's vet claim backs up Ace's vigi claim, so as of now I'm inclined to believe both of them.On May 01 2011 16:40 darmousseh wrote:yay! I didn't die on day/night 1. I'm so happy  Tomorrow I'm going to write out my analysis of the game so far.
I'm still waiting. If this doesn't get posted soon he's a priority lynch for me.
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On May 02 2011 02:05 VarpuliS wrote:Okay then, now we've got some information. Sandroba's vet claim backs up Ace's vigi claim, so as of now I'm inclined to believe both of them.Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 16:40 darmousseh wrote:yay! I didn't die on day/night 1. I'm so happy Tomorrow I'm going to write out my analysis of the game so far. I'm still waiting. If this doesn't get posted soon he's a priority lynch for me.
Unless they are both scum.
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On May 02 2011 02:13 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 02:05 VarpuliS wrote:Okay then, now we've got some information. Sandroba's vet claim backs up Ace's vigi claim, so as of now I'm inclined to believe both of them.On May 01 2011 16:40 darmousseh wrote:yay! I didn't die on day/night 1. I'm so happy Tomorrow I'm going to write out my analysis of the game so far. I'm still waiting. If this doesn't get posted soon he's a priority lynch for me. Unless they are both scum.
Fair point, I'll have to think this over.
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Impervious: What's with the voting without posting in the thread? Let us know what you're thinking, please.
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I figured that there may be a vet role in the game.
Unless we've got a better option, Jackal seems to be the next best lynch.
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I was just typing it up lol.
I'm less convinced that Ace is red now. Not 100% sure he's telling the truth, but more convinced that Jackal is really scum than Ace right now.
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On May 02 2011 02:04 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 01:30 sandroba wrote:
First of all, I'd like to apologise for not posting much for the last couple days. I'm not at home right now and I'm posting this through my phone.
Second, I'm ex-marine (vet) and I got shot last night. My main FoS right now is Darmousseh, Eiii and Jackal58. I believe Imprevious to be town. I'll post some analysis when I arrive. I don't think I'm buying this either. If a vig shot last night why would they shoot GGQ or you? I'm the one with a great big fucking target on my back.
um...what target?
Anyway I was going to shoot Impervious last night but switched to GGQ. 2 things that stood out to me:
1.) Asking about darmousseh. There are a couple of lurkers this game and he was the third person to ask about this specific lurker.
2.) My message intercepts
As an undercover agent I intercepted parts of 2 messages so far:
"watch the Canadian"
"likes men's magazine"
The first had something to do with either Impervious or Mr.Wiggles and I chose Impervious.
The second I figured pointed to GGQ
3.) When GGQ asked me my opinion of Wiggles analysis on Impervious that was my gut shot. For someone barely in the thick of things all game he chose an opportune time to get involved.
On May 01 2011 21:25 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 13:22 Ace wrote:On May 01 2011 13:19 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Then why does the day post say that the sleeper agents shot one of their own? If you were the head of the FBI and had an undercover agent on the inside would you tell the press? So you're claiming to be some sort of double agent with a gun??? Wtf kind of claim is that? And if it's true why the fuck would you claim that? That makes less sense than bum claiming DT so early.(wtf bum  ) You seriously want us to believe you are vigi/sooper spy? Day 1 you call me scummiest player in the game. Day 2 you tear bum a new one and lead the charge on his lynch after he calls me scum. Yet according to you I'm the scummiest player in the game. Day 3 you claim vig/sooper spy. Day 3 I call bullshit. If you are on the "inside" as you say you're actions make no sense what so ever. You push the DT lynch over who you believe to be the scummiest player. If you are on the inside this just doesn't add up. You would have known bum and I were both town and pushed for a 3rd party for the lynch. Not one of us. I'm not buying it. If you have some sort of role that allows you to get info on the scum team and shoot them why would you claim it????
I'm an undercover Agent with 1 shot and get parts intercepted messages from the CL. So I have no more shots anyway and I'm pretty sure we're close to winning this especially seeing how panicked you are. If you are a townie you should be glad I chose correctly because if I missed I'd be automatically killed also. Something tells me you aren't though.
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Lol, so that's why you're suspicious of me?
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Well, if Ace is telling the truth, lets not make the same mistake that was made with bum. If Ace can still intercept messages, he can be of use to the town, so the Mafia will want to eliminate him.
So, even if you don't believe him, leaving him alive for the night is far more useful to us than killing him..... We'll get more information either way.
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On May 02 2011 02:36 Impervious wrote:
Lol, so that's why you're suspicious of me?
Well thats not all of it. When you believed bum's claim so easily without a guilty result I found that ridiculous. If a detective pops up on Day 2 and says "player X is surely innocent!" does that sound believable?
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Jackal, that paranoia is counting against you now.
##Vote: Jackal58
Ace is pretty convincing, and it find it unlikely that both he and sandroba are scum. Ace's logic and explanation for his hit on GGQ are solid, and sandroba's been pretty pro-town, imo. That leaves Jackal seeming pretty accusatory and suspicious.
Jackal, I don't remember you ever being a big target for scum. Maybe I just haven't been paying enough attention.
Ace is likely to die tonight, because he's going to keep intercepting messages from the Cell Leader until they kill him. Lynching him would be stupider than lynching bum was.
I haven't forgotten about you Darm, you'd still better post that analysis.
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Where, exactly, did I say I believed him?
On April 29 2011 11:31 Impervious wrote:
Statistically, it's a far better choice to lynch anyone who got "insufficient analysis" than to try to check them again.
I say we go for it. Right now. Maybe get Ace tomorrow?
Although, bum, I don't like how you're already revealing yourself..... I don't think you were in any danger yet, so it seems unnecessary at this point.
On April 30 2011 00:53 Impervious wrote:
Ok, for those of you who are skeptical of bum, what do you think about lynching him to prove it, to satisfy your curiosity?
If he really is the DT, his list and reasoning seems pretty solid, and I haven't seen any better ideas.....
Note - sarcasm isn't expressed well over the internet.
On April 30 2011 09:08 Impervious wrote:
Guys, if bum is in fact the analyst, while there is only a ~25% chance that he's actually the cell leader, there is a ~50% chance of getting a red. That is a pretty damn good chance at the moment.
While it is stupid (imo) that bum claimed already, if he is the DT, he'll be a high priority target for the mafia, so they'll take him out at night.
I don't see the reasoning for a red claiming as DT. It seems like such a dumb move. It instantly paints a giant target on them when he's still alive the next day. And if the mafia don't eliminate him tonight, then they risk him actually finding a mafia (assuming that Jackal is green).
And, of course, if he's green, it could be an interesting play, if you really had a strong read on someone.
I don't think it's a good idea to lynch him. Voting for someone other than Jackal, based on some kind of analysis, would be fine if you don't believe bum, but lynching him is really fucking dumb right now.
Plz tell me where I said I believed him? I simply couldn't see a good reason to lynch him yet..... And his plan wasn't a bad one, nor was his analysis. What else should I have done?
Oh, I could have always done what you did. Which was actually lynch the fucking DT..... I guess lynching a blue role is the smart town play.
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why are you playing the result? You sure seemed convinced he was a DT before he popped.
I don't see the reasoning for a red claiming as DT. It seems like such a dumb move. It instantly paints a giant target on them when he's still alive the next day. And if the mafia don't eliminate him tonight, then they risk him actually finding a mafia (assuming that Jackal is green).
And, of course, if he's green, it could be an interesting play, if you really had a strong read on someone.
I don't think it's a good idea to lynch him. Voting for someone other than Jackal, based on some kind of analysis, would be fine if you don't believe bum, but lynching him is really fucking dumb right now.
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Oh my bad, I guess posts like this don't mean you believe bum but that everyone else is stupid.
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His plan and analysis was to roleclaim because he got an inconclusive result that could have been because of a 25% chance RNG.
It was stupid and pretty scummy, to tell the truth. I don't agree with his lynch either, though.
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