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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On April 11 2011 06:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 06:10 GMarshal wrote:On April 11 2011 06:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
so vote for me and put protact in as pardoner so we can at least force him to use his powers for us without wasting a significant role on him imo we can't "force" him to do anything without hurting the town... we've gone through this, the only conceivable plan of forcing him to do anything wastes far too many town resources. We can *hope* he does what he says he will, and I'm not voting based on *hope*. Either way, I'm done arguing about pro. I think if he is at least put up as pardoner then we will shut up about him at least. As long as he agrees to use his check on our whim I don't see the problem with that.
No, quite the opposite. If we put him as pardoner, he will be scrutinized and distract the town for the first half of the game. The real way for us to stop talking about him is to not elect him and let him get night killed by the other assassins.
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On April 11 2011 06:12 urashimakt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 06:01 Pandain wrote:
actually you know what.
IT would still work.
I just don't run.
I'm not dt After reading through Pandain's flight of fancy, I just wanted to give my two cents. Assuming Pandain is either green or scum, which I'm going to because anything else is going to break my brain/heart/misc vital organs, I still believe protecting Protact with the Pardoner position only is a good idea. Arguing about assassin business is not. Just forget he's an assassin imo, which is why I don't endorse him for Mayor. That would make it impossible to forget he's black. I have no idea about who should be mayor. I want someone who's calm, collected, and proven a good analyst. Someone people can get behind and argue with without creating a mess for scum to hide behind. The more vets post about each mayoral candidate and their thoughts, the better reads we newbies can get on the whole thing. Sorry if any of my points are disagreeable, I am admittedly new at this.
i'm the most calm and collected person here
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On April 10 2011 21:17 Barundar wrote:
Kavdragon, I feel you need to put more effort into your campaign, you posted a lot during night 0, but seem to have gone more quiet around your own candidacy.
Yes, sorry about that. Regardless of whether or not I win, I'm going to be trying to help everyone get jump started. I'm currently working on a rather large post, but it was interrupted by a sudden realization. I'll reveal later, but it wouldn't make sense to do so now. Hopefully I'll have both done by this afternoon.
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On April 11 2011 06:13 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 06:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 11 2011 06:10 GMarshal wrote:On April 11 2011 06:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
so vote for me and put protact in as pardoner so we can at least force him to use his powers for us without wasting a significant role on him imo we can't "force" him to do anything without hurting the town... we've gone through this, the only conceivable plan of forcing him to do anything wastes far too many town resources. We can *hope* he does what he says he will, and I'm not voting based on *hope*. Either way, I'm done arguing about pro. I think if he is at least put up as pardoner then we will shut up about him at least. As long as he agrees to use his check on our whim I don't see the problem with that. No, quite the opposite. If we put him as pardoner, he will be scrutinized and distract the town for the first half of the game. The real way for us to stop talking about him is to not elect him and let him get night killed by the other assassins.
Pandain does have a point that if he's elected he is somehow accountable to us to use his powers in a pro-town way. Pardoner isn't a very useful role for town. I do worry though that too much attention will be focused on protactinium.
If the town can hold itself together and manipulate protact while still focusing on scumhunting that would be great but maybe I'm too optimistic.
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On April 11 2011 06:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i'm the most calm and collected person here[/QUOTE]
And I'm the fucking easter bunny.
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On April 11 2011 06:14 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 21:17 Barundar wrote:
Kavdragon, I feel you need to put more effort into your campaign, you posted a lot during night 0, but seem to have gone more quiet around your own candidacy. Yes, sorry about that. Regardless of whether or not I win, I'm going to be trying to help everyone get jump started. I'm currently working on a rather large post, but it was interrupted by a sudden realization. I'll reveal later, but it wouldn't make sense to do so now. Hopefully I'll have both done by this afternoon.
i hope your realization is that i am scum
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On April 11 2011 06:12 urashimakt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 06:01 Pandain wrote:
actually you know what.
IT would still work.
I just don't run.
I'm not dt After reading through Pandain's flight of fancy, I just wanted to give my two cents. Assuming Pandain is either green or scum, which I'm going to because anything else is going to break my brain/heart/misc vital organs, I still believe protecting Protact with the Pardoner position only is a good idea. Arguing about assassin business is not. Just forget he's an assassin imo, which is why I don't endorse him for Mayor. That would make it impossible to forget he's black. I have no idea about who should be mayor. I want someone who's calm, collected, and proven a good analyst. Someone people can get behind and argue with without creating a mess for scum to hide behind. The more vets post about each mayoral candidate and their thoughts, the better reads we newbies can get on the whole thing. Sorry if any of my points are disagreeable, I am admittedly new at this.
Sounds like you're looking for what I'm looking for in a mayor. You should vote for me!
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On April 11 2011 06:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 06:14 Kavdragon wrote:On April 10 2011 21:17 Barundar wrote:
Kavdragon, I feel you need to put more effort into your campaign, you posted a lot during night 0, but seem to have gone more quiet around your own candidacy. Yes, sorry about that. Regardless of whether or not I win, I'm going to be trying to help everyone get jump started. I'm currently working on a rather large post, but it was interrupted by a sudden realization. I'll reveal later, but it wouldn't make sense to do so now. Hopefully I'll have both done by this afternoon. i hope your realization is that i am scum
Stay tuned for the dramatic announcement!
I thought his posts before the game started were decent, but not I'm not so sure. I guess we can decide after the big announcement is made. I hope it's juicy.
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Kav if you're claiming a role I swear to god...
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This is already starting to get too personal for my liking, particularly in the attacks on Pandain. Please manner up, guys, and stop insulting each others' intelligence, just keep arguments focused on the game.
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On April 11 2011 06:21 AirbladeOrange wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 06:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 11 2011 06:14 Kavdragon wrote:On April 10 2011 21:17 Barundar wrote:
Kavdragon, I feel you need to put more effort into your campaign, you posted a lot during night 0, but seem to have gone more quiet around your own candidacy. Yes, sorry about that. Regardless of whether or not I win, I'm going to be trying to help everyone get jump started. I'm currently working on a rather large post, but it was interrupted by a sudden realization. I'll reveal later, but it wouldn't make sense to do so now. Hopefully I'll have both done by this afternoon. i hope your realization is that i am scum Stay tuned for the dramatic announcement! I thought his posts before the game started were decent, but not I'm not so sure. I guess we can decide after the big announcement is made. I hope it's juicy.
why? yeah they're "good" advice and thats why scum post like that, but it really comes off as a front to me
see aidnai in experimental mini mafia for a great example of what im talking about
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On April 11 2011 04:54 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 04:51 The_Roist wrote:
I've never seen a game get so worked up over a ninja/witch hunt before. Never one that the town has won anyway... We always brawl on day 1.
Do you guys? Its my first time playing Mafia with TL, you guys are far more...aggressive? Then the guys i'm used to playing with.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On April 11 2011 06:24 The_Roist wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 04:54 Jackal58 wrote:On April 11 2011 04:51 The_Roist wrote:
I've never seen a game get so worked up over a ninja/witch hunt before. Never one that the town has won anyway... We always brawl on day 1. Do you guys? Its my first time playing Mafia with TL, you guys are far more...aggressive? Then the guys i'm used to playing with.
Just don't lurk and you should be fine ^_^
Thoughts on the mayor race?
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On April 11 2011 06:24 The_Roist wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 04:54 Jackal58 wrote:On April 11 2011 04:51 The_Roist wrote:
I've never seen a game get so worked up over a ninja/witch hunt before. Never one that the town has won anyway... We always brawl on day 1. Do you guys? Its my first time playing Mafia with TL, you guys are far more...aggressive? Then the guys i'm used to playing with.
It's the BROOKLYN RAGE in all of us.
Okay. These are scenarios I am somewhat comfortable with:
Mayor/Pardoner:
Myself/Protactinium
Gmarshal/Protacinium
I concur but....Y U NO INCLUDE ME????
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Honestly DrH/Protact seems like the best case for mayor right not, as they are the two towniest people i can see. I wouldn't mind gmarshall in a position of power too. Also Pandain must be scum there is no way somebody who is town would make people argue about something that isn't true for 10 pages.
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On April 11 2011 06:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 06:09 Mig wrote:
A couple things since Dr.H is still saying I am mafia. It's incorrect to say all I I am trying to do is repeat pro town comments.
I believe there are only 2 posts where this could be argued. The first one I made on p27 I basically said exactly what Dr.H did but I posted it at almost the exact same time as him because I was typing it up at the same time.
The 2nd post that could look suspicious was on the top of p28. In that post I made 2 points that hadn't been mentioned previously. That A) if we were worried about prot not doing what we tell him if he becomes mayor we can control him with the medics. If we just give him medic protection then hes basically held hostage by us since if he doesn't do exactly what we want we can just not protect him and we don't lose anything. B) that its still a risk to use medics on him since we don't know the actual role numbers and the assassins may outnumber our medics to where we can't possibly protect him.
Someone said I was wishy washy for listing both points but I was trying to discuss what our optimal play was so I listed the pros and cons as I saw them, I still gave my opinion that it was too risky to use our medics on him.
I want to add I think it is suspicious how Dr.H is playing. It's in the best interest for the town for the new players to post as much as possible. They are the ones most likely to give up information and they will be most easily read by the vets so the more they post the better. With how Dr.H is playing it really discourages new people from posting out of fear that they may just be labeled as bandwagoning onto other pro town comments.
Dr.H can say hes just putting pressure on people to force mistakes but I think attacking the new players would be a very viable strategy for an aggressive mafia. After they attack a new player its likely the new player will either attack them back blindly or will start to post less. Either of which would make the new player appear suspicious.
now im 100% sure
Going to agree with you here. This just makes mig sooo much more suspicious. Also withdrawing my suspicion from you DocH. Your posts that made me worry have been outweighed by the solid ones since.
Also Pandain, if you're going to fake roleclaim, on Day 1 no less, then we can't trust anything you're going to do for the rest of the game really.
can we lynch him soon please?
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On April 11 2011 06:27 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 06:24 The_Roist wrote:On April 11 2011 04:54 Jackal58 wrote:On April 11 2011 04:51 The_Roist wrote:
I've never seen a game get so worked up over a ninja/witch hunt before. Never one that the town has won anyway... We always brawl on day 1. Do you guys? Its my first time playing Mafia with TL, you guys are far more...aggressive? Then the guys i'm used to playing with. It's the BROOKLYN RAGE in all of us. Show nested quote +Okay. These are scenarios I am somewhat comfortable with:
Mayor/Pardoner:
Myself/Protactinium
Gmarshal/Protacinium I concur but....Y U NO INCLUDE ME????
my read on you is blank, that's why
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On April 11 2011 06:26 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 06:24 The_Roist wrote:On April 11 2011 04:54 Jackal58 wrote:On April 11 2011 04:51 The_Roist wrote:
I've never seen a game get so worked up over a ninja/witch hunt before. Never one that the town has won anyway... We always brawl on day 1. Do you guys? Its my first time playing Mafia with TL, you guys are far more...aggressive? Then the guys i'm used to playing with. Just don't lurk and you should be fine ^_^ Thoughts on the mayor race?
Just to keep it posted, it's currently
GMarshal: 4
Protact: 3
DrH: 1
tnkted: 1
kitaman27: 1
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EBYOP: Pandain fucked up town for 5 pages my bad.
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We need people who are obviously not going to be elected to either do a large post to cement their bid for mayor with solid reasoning or to withdraw their bids.
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