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On April 11 2011 05:13 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 05:08 TranceStorm wrote:On April 11 2011 04:56 Pandain wrote:
But this is the PANDAIN PLAN
1.Proctat reveal the two bodyguards.
2. Watchers are HEAVILY advised to visit these people. Obviously there may not be a watcher(even though there likely is.) But the most important thing is that the threat remains the same.
This makes it very risky for the other assasins to even attempt to shoot the bodyguards for fear of losing. They will most likely have to wait a couple days, during which we shall have ample time to find them.
Proctat will be helping town while still fulfilling his role condition. There is no reason not to vote for him.
Sure, this will keep the bodyguards alive and keep the the people elected alive, but it will definitely take away the usefulness of the watcher, since the mafia/assassins' will be guaranteed to steer clear of them. Furthermore, if the mafia/assassins were to accidentally hit the watchers, the following turn we could be pretty sure that the bodyguards would be dead as well since they've been outed. Sup Trancestorm, nice to know you've been lurking and reading all of the stuff but saying nothing about it. What do you think about Prot's campaign? Kita? DrH?
Hey, I just got on the thread and read all the stuff, and Pandian's points were the first I had something to respond to. Personally, as I said earlier, I feel uneasy about Prot's campaign because of his potential for swapping allegiances later in the game. The other candidate's I don't have any clear reads on since there is absolutely no and since we can't confirm anything. I'm inclined to believe that Pandian is the detective from my personal gut feeling from his original post though, even though I don't think his idea to reveal himself was all the great for the town.
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On April 11 2011 05:22 TranceStorm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 05:13 chaoser wrote:On April 11 2011 05:08 TranceStorm wrote:On April 11 2011 04:56 Pandain wrote:
But this is the PANDAIN PLAN
1.Proctat reveal the two bodyguards.
2. Watchers are HEAVILY advised to visit these people. Obviously there may not be a watcher(even though there likely is.) But the most important thing is that the threat remains the same.
This makes it very risky for the other assasins to even attempt to shoot the bodyguards for fear of losing. They will most likely have to wait a couple days, during which we shall have ample time to find them.
Proctat will be helping town while still fulfilling his role condition. There is no reason not to vote for him.
Sure, this will keep the bodyguards alive and keep the the people elected alive, but it will definitely take away the usefulness of the watcher, since the mafia/assassins' will be guaranteed to steer clear of them. Furthermore, if the mafia/assassins were to accidentally hit the watchers, the following turn we could be pretty sure that the bodyguards would be dead as well since they've been outed. Sup Trancestorm, nice to know you've been lurking and reading all of the stuff but saying nothing about it. What do you think about Prot's campaign? Kita? DrH? Hey, I just got on the thread and read all the stuff, and Pandian's points were the first I had something to respond to. Personally, as I said earlier, I feel uneasy about Prot's campaign because of his potential for swapping allegiances later in the game. The other candidate's I don't have any clear reads on since there is absolutely no and since we can't confirm anything. I'm inclined to believe that Pandian is the detective from my personal gut feeling from his original post though, even though I don't think his idea to reveal himself was all the great for the town.
Please explain. As I see right now, Proctat's only allegience is to himself.
But we also hold him by the strings: We can lynch him if he tries to go against us. Right now Proctat will be:
1.Sharing dt results.
2.Giving vital information and using his experience to help lynch correctly.
3.Confirm the two bodyguards.
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On April 11 2011 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 05:19 Jackal58 wrote:On April 11 2011 05:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 11 2011 05:13 Coagulation wrote:
Why are people fucking not understanding this?
I think this whole assassin debate is pretty much derailing us from hunting scum. Mafia are probably most inclined to support this assassin in mayor SHIT because #1 it doesnt endanger themselves and #2 they get the benefit of having town deal with fucking assassins all fucking game instead of IGNORING THEM LIKE WE SHOULD and hunting scum. Fuck Pandains prolly the fucking GF What kind of idiot town would claim DT DAY 1 ? WTF.
pandain is a special kind of idiot well at least we can be a duo of reason trying to push the town onto scumhunting doctorhelvetica/coagulation '11?? The scum and scummier platform???? i think you're red too so this is cute
I'm fucking Joe McCarthy compared to you.
But you're right. This is rapidly turning into a shit fest of an epic magnitude.
I'll say right now that there is no fucking way in hell I will vote for Pandain.
His forays into elected office always end in town getting raped.
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On April 11 2011 05:19 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 05:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 11 2011 05:07 AirbladeOrange wrote:On April 11 2011 05:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 11 2011 04:56 Protactinium wrote:So I have said that I want to help the town purely because of fun. You have no way to believe me, correct? Well how about I start proving what I said then. It's day 1, there's plenty of information out there to do some analysis and reveal a plan. There are two ways mafia and/or assassins can react to my campaign. 1) Ignore my post or minimalize it 2) Actively fight against it You can 100% bet that they will not be supporting my candidacy. Assassins in particular must be vocal. Naturally, they do not want me elected whatsoever. In addition assassins and mafia can and will freely attack me because it's very easy to make up some nonsense about why I should not be elected, and lo and behold, a number have already done that. Some will be townie, but I dare say there's a very nice probability that at least half are mafia or assassin. The first point is also interesting. It would be rather unlikely for a townie to look at my candidacy and not have a strong opinion on it one way or another: it's a polarizing issue. You either like it or you don't. We'll cover that in a future post, as it caught a few other suspects. List of People attacking my campaign, openly or subtly. AKA Mafia & Assassin listGmarshal
tnkted
mig
kitaman
Kavdragon
Wiggles
Darmousseh
Dropbear
Robellicose
Coagulation Note that DoctorHelvetica is not on this list even though he is opposing me quite heavily, because he changed his stance over time. Upon seeing my campaign, Mafia and Assassins would instantly think "I don't want this guy in office" and their posts would reflect that. DoctorHelvetica, on the other hand, came in supporting me initially and changed his opnion over time upon reflecting on it more. I suppose this could have been an act but I'd rather go with Occam's Razor for now, making me think he is town. This list will have for certain 1 assassin and highly likely both of them because they cannot let me get into office (yes there are 3 assassins). As the Assassins also know they are on this list, they will also find it very likely that their counterpart will be on the list too. However, this list is going to also have multiple mafia on it. I'm guessing 2-3. Why Mafia? Quite simply, they don't want an invincible double shot vigi and a free rolecheck visible to all, and also, someone who they absolutely cannot manipulate the town to kill. The best part? The assassins only have 1 rolecheck and will have to fire into a group of people that has a high concentration of mafia in order to find their enemy. We can lynch from this list if you want, but tbh we really don't need to. Assassins will sort out the matter themselves or forfeit all chances of winning. Lastly, a lot of people seem to be missing the point of my election, talking about some nonsense of how I might be mafia (LOL) or I won't help the town at all (which as you can see above is patently not true). However, who cares? The main points are: 1) You get TWO vigi hits, aka you double or more the town's non-lynch kp, and a dt check publicly known. This is quite important, as all too often dt's die before revealing any of their findings or are so trapped by fear that they won't reveal anything anyways. 2) You know I'm not mafia, so the town can't blow the game like it has many times in the past by lynching its own elected roles, of which there is a substantial and inherent pull to do. tnkted is assassin probably kavdragon/mib are mafia gmarshal is probably town imo What are your reasonings? I feel like its impossible to think we know much of anything at this point. How can you even say we "know you're not mafia?" I may be the village idiot, but I acknowledge the fact that we don't really know anything. At least as a collective group. Both Kavdragon and Gmarshal had decent posts for mayor, but you just never know. Unless you know thing that I or others do not. i already explained why i think kavdragon is mafia and mib tknted as assassin is a gut read, of course i dont have neough information to make a serious case On April 11 2011 05:10 Pandain wrote:On April 11 2011 05:08 TranceStorm wrote:On April 11 2011 04:56 Pandain wrote:
But this is the PANDAIN PLAN
1.Proctat reveal the two bodyguards.
2. Watchers are HEAVILY advised to visit these people. Obviously there may not be a watcher(even though there likely is.) But the most important thing is that the threat remains the same.
This makes it very risky for the other assasins to even attempt to shoot the bodyguards for fear of losing. They will most likely have to wait a couple days, during which we shall have ample time to find them.
Proctat will be helping town while still fulfilling his role condition. There is no reason not to vote for him.
Sure, this will keep the bodyguards alive and keep the the people elected alive, but it will definitely take away the usefulness of the watcher, since the mafia/assassins' will be guaranteed to steer clear of them. Furthermore, if the mafia/assassins were to accidentally hit the watchers, the following turn we could be pretty sure that the bodyguards would be dead as well since they've been outed. The watcher isn't that great of a role anyway, barring the INCREDIBLY unlikely situation that he ends up checking someone who died that day. This way the watcher shall be helping to confirm two townies, as well as help Proctat confirm his win condition. Given that they hit the watchers, that's (less) than the chance they accidently hit a bodyguard. So really no real problem. And anyway it's not too bad if Proctat dies given that he's not town. we have no reason to care about protacts win condition this ties down the watcher and forces them to be part of the assassin game instead of using their pwoer for scumhunting am i insane? am i the only person here that thinks we should focus our effort on catching mafia and not dealing with assassin bullshit? this whole thing has gotten out of hand and now you fucking blue claimed which is absolutely retarded. game ruined day 1 because tl town can't stop shitting the bed when there is any sort of weird mechanic/third party it's all we talk about We don't have reason to care about Proctat's win condition except for the fact that by helping him, he will help us. It's a win-win situation if he gets elected as mayor. And are you really saying that the watcher is a "scum hunting" role. The only way he might be able to help is if he visits the person who dies. I think that helping to confirm two townies is by FAR a better use of a watcher. Furthormore we are talking about who should be mayor. Day 1 mafia hunting is going to often be wrong, and you out of all people should know that. The most important thing(considering its hardly been a day since its started) right now is saying who should be mayor, especially since he decides the lynch. Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 05:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 11 2011 05:11 Pandain wrote:On April 11 2011 05:09 Coagulation wrote:
WE ARE NOT AIMING TO KILL ASSASSINS
WE ARE AIMING TO KILL SCUM We're aiming to kill both. Why? Assasins have kp. Anything with a constant kp is bad for town as it increases the chance of civilian deaths. If Assasins fulfill they're role conditions that means those are 3 less people we have to worry about. wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong What happened to the "oh let's not argue. I won't comment on your plan at all because its wrong." Its undeinable that having one less 3rd party is better for town. It's undeniable that its better to have less anti town people in the game. Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 05:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 11 2011 05:13 Coagulation wrote:
Why are people fucking not understanding this?
I think this whole assassin debate is pretty much derailing us from hunting scum. Mafia are probably most inclined to support this assassin in mayor SHIT because #1 it doesnt endanger themselves and #2 they get the benefit of having town deal with fucking assassins all fucking game instead of IGNORING THEM LIKE WE SHOULD and hunting scum. Fuck Pandains prolly the fucking GF What kind of idiot town would claim DT DAY 1 ? WTF.
pandain is a special kind of idiot well at least we can be a duo of reason trying to push the town onto scumhunting doctorhelvetica/coagulation '11?? Broski are you really saying that coag and you are the duo or reason in this game?
lol how is the watcher not a scumhunting role, the point of the watcher is that you visit someone who died that night and that's a pretty good power. using it to keep bodyguards alive to protect an assassin we have no reason to care about is utterly retarded
if we elect protact this game will become about the assassins game. let him die, he's worthless, vote for the mayor you feel is most town-like and focus on drawing scum out/provoking them and knocking them down later.
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Also wtf is with this bias against me?
Seriously?
I'm a good analyzer. When I'm not goofing off, I get shit down. Shit gets real when Pandain's in the house.
I survived Insane Mafia 1 through constant suspicion and poking.
I nailed LSB/RoL in Team melee mafia.
When the fuck have I even ever been elected?
Right now I have claimed DT, you can either let me die or do the only sensible thing and vote me and Proctact into office.
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On April 11 2011 05:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
yeah me and coagulation are the most reasonable right now
Objection!
Alternative GMarshal/Chaoser 2011! We'll win the game AND get your Chinese Princess Back!
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you survived in insane mafia 1 because the town was dumb and didn't listen to me
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On April 11 2011 05:26 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 05:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
yeah me and coagulation are the most reasonable right now Objection! Alternative GMarshal/Chaoser 2011! We'll win the game AND get your Chinese Princess Back!
gmarshal is wishy washy and you supported protact
i'm obviously the best choice also my behavior is clearly the most pro-town anyone can see this
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I see no reason for any mayor or pardoner to ever reveal the 2 bodyguards. Ever.
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On April 11 2011 05:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 05:19 Pandain wrote:On April 11 2011 05:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 11 2011 05:07 AirbladeOrange wrote:On April 11 2011 05:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 11 2011 04:56 Protactinium wrote:So I have said that I want to help the town purely because of fun. You have no way to believe me, correct? Well how about I start proving what I said then. It's day 1, there's plenty of information out there to do some analysis and reveal a plan. There are two ways mafia and/or assassins can react to my campaign. 1) Ignore my post or minimalize it 2) Actively fight against it You can 100% bet that they will not be supporting my candidacy. Assassins in particular must be vocal. Naturally, they do not want me elected whatsoever. In addition assassins and mafia can and will freely attack me because it's very easy to make up some nonsense about why I should not be elected, and lo and behold, a number have already done that. Some will be townie, but I dare say there's a very nice probability that at least half are mafia or assassin. The first point is also interesting. It would be rather unlikely for a townie to look at my candidacy and not have a strong opinion on it one way or another: it's a polarizing issue. You either like it or you don't. We'll cover that in a future post, as it caught a few other suspects. List of People attacking my campaign, openly or subtly. AKA Mafia & Assassin listGmarshal
tnkted
mig
kitaman
Kavdragon
Wiggles
Darmousseh
Dropbear
Robellicose
Coagulation Note that DoctorHelvetica is not on this list even though he is opposing me quite heavily, because he changed his stance over time. Upon seeing my campaign, Mafia and Assassins would instantly think "I don't want this guy in office" and their posts would reflect that. DoctorHelvetica, on the other hand, came in supporting me initially and changed his opnion over time upon reflecting on it more. I suppose this could have been an act but I'd rather go with Occam's Razor for now, making me think he is town. This list will have for certain 1 assassin and highly likely both of them because they cannot let me get into office (yes there are 3 assassins). As the Assassins also know they are on this list, they will also find it very likely that their counterpart will be on the list too. However, this list is going to also have multiple mafia on it. I'm guessing 2-3. Why Mafia? Quite simply, they don't want an invincible double shot vigi and a free rolecheck visible to all, and also, someone who they absolutely cannot manipulate the town to kill. The best part? The assassins only have 1 rolecheck and will have to fire into a group of people that has a high concentration of mafia in order to find their enemy. We can lynch from this list if you want, but tbh we really don't need to. Assassins will sort out the matter themselves or forfeit all chances of winning. Lastly, a lot of people seem to be missing the point of my election, talking about some nonsense of how I might be mafia (LOL) or I won't help the town at all (which as you can see above is patently not true). However, who cares? The main points are: 1) You get TWO vigi hits, aka you double or more the town's non-lynch kp, and a dt check publicly known. This is quite important, as all too often dt's die before revealing any of their findings or are so trapped by fear that they won't reveal anything anyways. 2) You know I'm not mafia, so the town can't blow the game like it has many times in the past by lynching its own elected roles, of which there is a substantial and inherent pull to do. tnkted is assassin probably kavdragon/mib are mafia gmarshal is probably town imo What are your reasonings? I feel like its impossible to think we know much of anything at this point. How can you even say we "know you're not mafia?" I may be the village idiot, but I acknowledge the fact that we don't really know anything. At least as a collective group. Both Kavdragon and Gmarshal had decent posts for mayor, but you just never know. Unless you know thing that I or others do not. i already explained why i think kavdragon is mafia and mib tknted as assassin is a gut read, of course i dont have neough information to make a serious case On April 11 2011 05:10 Pandain wrote:On April 11 2011 05:08 TranceStorm wrote:On April 11 2011 04:56 Pandain wrote:
But this is the PANDAIN PLAN
1.Proctat reveal the two bodyguards.
2. Watchers are HEAVILY advised to visit these people. Obviously there may not be a watcher(even though there likely is.) But the most important thing is that the threat remains the same.
This makes it very risky for the other assasins to even attempt to shoot the bodyguards for fear of losing. They will most likely have to wait a couple days, during which we shall have ample time to find them.
Proctat will be helping town while still fulfilling his role condition. There is no reason not to vote for him.
Sure, this will keep the bodyguards alive and keep the the people elected alive, but it will definitely take away the usefulness of the watcher, since the mafia/assassins' will be guaranteed to steer clear of them. Furthermore, if the mafia/assassins were to accidentally hit the watchers, the following turn we could be pretty sure that the bodyguards would be dead as well since they've been outed. The watcher isn't that great of a role anyway, barring the INCREDIBLY unlikely situation that he ends up checking someone who died that day. This way the watcher shall be helping to confirm two townies, as well as help Proctat confirm his win condition. Given that they hit the watchers, that's (less) than the chance they accidently hit a bodyguard. So really no real problem. And anyway it's not too bad if Proctat dies given that he's not town. we have no reason to care about protacts win condition this ties down the watcher and forces them to be part of the assassin game instead of using their pwoer for scumhunting am i insane? am i the only person here that thinks we should focus our effort on catching mafia and not dealing with assassin bullshit? this whole thing has gotten out of hand and now you fucking blue claimed which is absolutely retarded. game ruined day 1 because tl town can't stop shitting the bed when there is any sort of weird mechanic/third party it's all we talk about We don't have reason to care about Proctat's win condition except for the fact that by helping him, he will help us. It's a win-win situation if he gets elected as mayor. And are you really saying that the watcher is a "scum hunting" role. The only way he might be able to help is if he visits the person who dies. I think that helping to confirm two townies is by FAR a better use of a watcher. Furthormore we are talking about who should be mayor. Day 1 mafia hunting is going to often be wrong, and you out of all people should know that. The most important thing(considering its hardly been a day since its started) right now is saying who should be mayor, especially since he decides the lynch. On April 11 2011 05:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 11 2011 05:11 Pandain wrote:On April 11 2011 05:09 Coagulation wrote:
WE ARE NOT AIMING TO KILL ASSASSINS
WE ARE AIMING TO KILL SCUM We're aiming to kill both. Why? Assasins have kp. Anything with a constant kp is bad for town as it increases the chance of civilian deaths. If Assasins fulfill they're role conditions that means those are 3 less people we have to worry about. wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong What happened to the "oh let's not argue. I won't comment on your plan at all because its wrong." Its undeinable that having one less 3rd party is better for town. It's undeniable that its better to have less anti town people in the game. On April 11 2011 05:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 11 2011 05:13 Coagulation wrote:
Why are people fucking not understanding this?
I think this whole assassin debate is pretty much derailing us from hunting scum. Mafia are probably most inclined to support this assassin in mayor SHIT because #1 it doesnt endanger themselves and #2 they get the benefit of having town deal with fucking assassins all fucking game instead of IGNORING THEM LIKE WE SHOULD and hunting scum. Fuck Pandains prolly the fucking GF What kind of idiot town would claim DT DAY 1 ? WTF.
pandain is a special kind of idiot well at least we can be a duo of reason trying to push the town onto scumhunting doctorhelvetica/coagulation '11?? Broski are you really saying that coag and you are the duo or reason in this game? lol how is the watcher not a scumhunting role, the point of the watcher is that you visit someone who died that night and that's a pretty good power. using it to keep bodyguards alive to protect an assassin we have no reason to care about is utterly retarded if we elect protact this game will become about the assassins game. let him die, he's worthless, vote for the mayor you feel is most town-like and focus on drawing scum out/provoking them and knocking them down later.
Watcher hardly does anything except in the instance of a plan. He doesn't get a guranteed result(unlike DT, who always gets a result. Watcher only does if someone visits that person. Even if someone did visit that person, unless they died they can't just say "oh someone visited him" because it might be a blue. [/b]
Proctact will give us DT results.
Protact will help get rid of assasins.
Note that just electing Proctact doesn't mean that the only thing we care about is assasins. Maybe that's what he will think about, but not us. We still can outvote him by far. Also note that as Pardoner(and blue) I can counteract him.
Voting Proctact will give us the most results and benefits, and at the very least we know that a mafia isn't in the hands of such a powerful role.
On April 11 2011 05:28 redFF wrote:
I see no reason for any mayor or pardoner to ever reveal the 2 bodyguards. Ever.
People need to stop saying things without any evidence(cough cough Dr. H).
We get two confirmed townies, and can watch to see if mafia/assasins try to hit them. Then we lynch those people.
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On April 11 2011 05:28 redFF wrote:
I see no reason for any mayor or pardoner to ever reveal the 2 bodyguards. Ever.
BUT WE CAN CATCH ASSASSINS!
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so that we can indefinitely protect the third party assassin and waste our time talking about him while the scum manipulate us duh
are you scum redFF? that's the only reason you wouldn't think it's a good idea
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oh yeah i forgot our goal is to catch and kill assassins, not scumhunt
my bad yeah vote protact/pandain for sure
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On April 11 2011 05:28 redFF wrote:
I see no reason for any mayor or pardoner to ever reveal the 2 bodyguards. Ever.
I'll say I can see no reason for any mayor/pardoner to reveal 2 bodyguards most of the time. There might be unforeseen circumstances where it would be best to do it. Dunno what they are yet, but we'll see.
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On April 11 2011 05:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
so that we can indefinitely protect the third party assassin and waste our time talking about him while the scum manipulate us duh
are you scum redFF? that's the only reason you wouldn't think it's a good idea
So we can protect someone who will give us:
1.DT results.
2.Dt results again(me)
3.Valuable scum hunting ability.
Furthermore for the love of god why don't you start talking about who's mafia? Personally anyone who says they have a strong read day 1 is pretty dumb, given its day 1!
What's more important than deciding the mayor right now? Especially if he could be an assassin!
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Pandain...please stop. My brain is hurting because of you.
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So here is where i stand right now. I'm still voting Protact for now because he seems to both have a reputation as a strong player and also not be scum. Pandain is either scum or thought that what protact did was such an awesome idea that he did it to, except he is dt -_-. I reread the last 10 pages of the thread and I no longer have an FOS on DrH. Honestly once i get a bit more info i will probably change my vote to DrH, as i feel like protact will have a decline in popularity.
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No I'm not going to stop until someone either actually debates my points or concedes.
Because I've already gone all in and roleclaimed, so I'm not stopping now.
I love you chaoser, and we're SFA's for eva, but I'm right this time and I know it.
Finally, I've realized that anyone who doesn't elect me is most like anti town(since mafia want me to be out in the open, and what town would not protect me).
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we havnt even voted pandain into office and he has already fucked town in the ass by claiming DT and holding our fucking decision hostage. if this isnt a fucking prelude to the disaster that is pandain for mayor i dont know what is.
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It doesn't matter if I claim DT because I'm not going to die(I haz da bodyguards.)
And if mafia try to shoot them, then we can lynch them.
And if bodyguards do die(after at least a couple days), then we shall have not only a couple mafia/assassins dead but medics can protect me now.
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