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"You gave us CLEAR signs of black:"
- way less chatty than normal
Did I mention that I have to walk to a library to post anything?
- described as "pro-town, but with an alternate win condition" by bum
Did Bum ever do any analysis? No. He was basing that off of my low activity, (explained above), and the fact that the mafia suspected me.
- survived shot + bomb
Yes, because I'm bullet proof.
- claimed bulletproof, which is the only possible way you're not black, big freaking coincidence
Not a coincidence. Look:
I got the attention of the town, in order to draw a hit on me.
I got hit, but didn't die. This aroused mafia's + Bum's suspicion that I'm Black.
Mafia say that they think I'm black to town. Kenpachi bombs me off of this.
People say I'm black because I survived.
See? You have it backwards. The reason why I've attracted all this attention, the bombs and the mafia shots, was because I was BP from the beginning. The fact that i'm BP is what caused all the events to happen. I didn't claim BP because they all happened.
Even now, when I ask you to lynch ilovejohn, something that would kill me AND a scum, you won'e accept it. I'm sad, CubEdIn. You had great plans and good advice, but you can't see this.
LSB, I told you this role was broken. To be fair, it wasn't for the reasons I had thought, but still. It's broken.
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On April 05 2011 09:08 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 08:56 Kavdragon wrote:
Look: If you are set on me needing to die, just kill me with ilovejohn's bomb. That way we get a scum off this lynch, instead of nothing. I'm not going to sit around while you ruin the town's chances for survival. If you won't submit, and are set on me dieing, then fine. Kill me. But don't waste the whole lynch! Lol. I'd rather lose a town, then 2 towns and a red. Don't worry, the reds will die in numbers tonight, due to hatters, blacks, and vigi. Why trade a townie for a red now, when blacks will have to waste a KP or RB on him during the night? And said red will die as a result anyway.
No, if ilovejohn dies tonight, you can bet that he'll be roleblocked. You wonder why there's no one other than jackal sticking up for me? Cause you're doing exactly what the scum want.
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On April 05 2011 09:06 CubEdIn wrote:
They asked us to shoot Kev with our RPG last night, so after they shot him, obviously.
And as much as I'd like to cave in and say, you're right, I'm not basing this on possibilities alone.
You gave us CLEAR signs of black:
- way less chatty than normal
- described as "pro-town, but with an alternate win condition" by bum
- survived shot + bomb
- claimed bulletproof, which is the only possible way you're not black, big freaking coincidence
At this point, I'd rather lynch a townie with a 80% shot that he's black (and I'm being indulgent here, I actually am about 95% sure that you are black) than a 50-50 between black/mafia.
Frankly, it's just too much to ignore. If you convince everyone else to vote for ON, I'll switch my vote just to make sure that we're making the lynch as one-sided as possible.
But let me say this again:
I believe you are black.
That's not gonna change until you flip.
I had this feeling way before you survived the bomb, and so did bum.
I don't want to change my vote. I don't trust you. If the lynch was mine alone, you'd be long dead.
Alright man. If you are that positive I'll put my vote back on him.
I just want to point out that 3 names that have been raised as possible blacks are the only ones still voting for ILJ.
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It would be nice if you guys made up your minds on who to lynch. If theres any ambiguity the blacks will rape us with vote manips
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I've gone out of my way to explain why trading town (jonn) for scum is a stupid idea several times.
LET SCUMS DEAL WITH IT.
1. They have to waste KP on him and/or Role-Block.
2. This is nothing but beneficial to town.
3. Reds are gonna die anyway.
In my eyes, only a black would want us to lynch a townie, so they can use their KPs on other targets. I mean, fuck, if I was black there'd be nothing better than two of my enemies to go down in one lynch in this scenario, am I right?!
The fact that you're advocating this, alone, makes you 100% black in my eyes.
Please tell me the BENEFIT of trading jonn for scum tonight. Please do!
And again, you don't really have to convince me, convince anyone else.
I'll believe you're town when you flip. I promise.
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On April 05 2011 09:24 deconduo wrote:
It would be nice if you guys made up your minds on who to lynch. If theres any ambiguity the blacks will rape us with vote manips
Oh lol. You are so scummy Decon: If blacks have vote manipulation powers, they'd have won already. They won the black market, and we KNOW that there was at least 20mill in there, for them to have bought out the BM. Votes cost .5 mill, which means that they would be able to out vote the entire town for something like 4 days.
In addition, if the vote is not close, then the list cannot be analysed. CubEdIn of all people should know this. He was the first to point out that a completely one sided vote leaves no clues as to who wanted what.
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On April 05 2011 09:22 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 09:08 CubEdIn wrote:On April 05 2011 08:56 Kavdragon wrote:
Look: If you are set on me needing to die, just kill me with ilovejohn's bomb. That way we get a scum off this lynch, instead of nothing. I'm not going to sit around while you ruin the town's chances for survival. If you won't submit, and are set on me dieing, then fine. Kill me. But don't waste the whole lynch! Lol. I'd rather lose a town, then 2 towns and a red. Don't worry, the reds will die in numbers tonight, due to hatters, blacks, and vigi. Why trade a townie for a red now, when blacks will have to waste a KP or RB on him during the night? And said red will die as a result anyway. No, if ilovejohn dies tonight, you can bet that he'll be roleblocked. You wonder why there's no one other than jackal sticking up for me? Cause you're doing exactly what the scum want.
Let them waste roleblock on him, instead of role-blocking:
- medic
- vigilante
- dt
- bus driver (this is a maybe)
I'd be more than happy to see all these 4 roles take full effect during the night while they're worried about RBing a hatter.
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On April 05 2011 09:27 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 09:24 deconduo wrote:
It would be nice if you guys made up your minds on who to lynch. If theres any ambiguity the blacks will rape us with vote manips Oh lol. You are so scummy Decon: If blacks have vote manipulation powers, they'd have won already. They won the black market, and we KNOW that there was at least 20mill in there, for them to have bought out the BM. Votes cost .5 mill, which means that they would be able to out vote the entire town for something like 4 days. In addition, if the vote is not close, then the list cannot be analysed. CubEdIn of all people should know this. He was the first to point out that a completely one sided vote leaves no clues as to who wanted what.
You see if you were town this is the wrong reaction. Cya.
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Look, Kav, it's easy.
I already told you I'm not gonna change my mind. But I will vote for the majority.
So stop arguing with me and take it up with the other 8 people voting for you.
I don't want or need support from Coag and Jackal and the other confirmed townies. If they believe you're not black, they can feel free to change votes. I promise I won't say "I told you so!!" at the end if they miss-lynch.
I explained why I placed my vote where it as and why trading jonn is bad.
Convince town and walk free. I'll stop posting for 1h or so.
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On April 05 2011 09:25 CubEdIn wrote:
I've gone out of my way to explain why trading town (jonn) for scum is a stupid idea several times.
LET SCUMS DEAL WITH IT.
1. They have to waste KP on him and/or Role-Block.
2. This is nothing but beneficial to town.
3. Reds are gonna die anyway.
In my eyes, only a black would want us to lynch a townie, so they can use their KPs on other targets. I mean, fuck, if I was black there'd be nothing better than two of my enemies to go down in one lynch in this scenario, am I right?!
The fact that you're advocating this, alone, makes you 100% black in my eyes.
Please tell me the BENEFIT of trading jonn for scum tonight. Please do!
And again, you don't really have to convince me, convince anyone else.
I'll believe you're town when you flip. I promise.
Point conceded. If you are 100% sure that I'm black, than yes. You are correct. However, if you have any doubt that I'm black (there should be, cause I'm not) the safer path is to lynch ilovejohn. I just wish the rest of the town saw this/didn't owe you favors.
Oh, and look: You're own plan to check role PM's?
On April 01 2011 18:51 Kavdragon wrote:
Your the you that.
used your redacted.
5,10,15,20,
25,30,35 respectively.
Original Message From kitaman27:
You are the Bulletproof-Bob. Your rough riding experiences during the war have sadly left you so terrified and suspicious that you have borrowed a used bulletproof jacket from your Vietnam buddy. Unfortunately, he was were shot with a cannon in the war, so there is a rather large hole in your vest. If you tell anyone about your vest, they know about the hole, and can shoot you through it.
If I had this roleclaim set up earlier, why wouldn't I have claimed it?
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On April 05 2011 09:36 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 09:25 CubEdIn wrote:
I've gone out of my way to explain why trading town (jonn) for scum is a stupid idea several times.
LET SCUMS DEAL WITH IT.
1. They have to waste KP on him and/or Role-Block.
2. This is nothing but beneficial to town.
3. Reds are gonna die anyway.
In my eyes, only a black would want us to lynch a townie, so they can use their KPs on other targets. I mean, fuck, if I was black there'd be nothing better than two of my enemies to go down in one lynch in this scenario, am I right?!
The fact that you're advocating this, alone, makes you 100% black in my eyes.
Please tell me the BENEFIT of trading jonn for scum tonight. Please do!
And again, you don't really have to convince me, convince anyone else.
I'll believe you're town when you flip. I promise. Point conceded. If you are 100% sure that I'm black, than yes. You are correct. However, if you have any doubt that I'm black (there should be, cause I'm not) the safer path is to lynch ilovejohn. I just wish the rest of the town saw this/didn't owe you favors. Oh, and look: You're own plan to check role PM's? Show nested quote +On April 01 2011 18:51 Kavdragon wrote:
Your the you that.
used your redacted.
5,10,15,20,
25,30,35 respectively. Show nested quote +Original Message From kitaman27:
You are the Bulletproof-Bob. Your rough riding experiences during the war have sadly left you so terrified and suspicious that you have borrowed a used bulletproof jacket from your Vietnam buddy. Unfortunately, he was were shot with a cannon in the war, so there is a rather large hole in your vest. If you tell anyone about your vest, they know about the hole, and can shoot you through it. If I had this roleclaim set up earlier, why wouldn't I have claimed it?
Fuck me.
Switching to ON
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Because you're smart.
Town: please don't vote for Kav because you owe me, vote for who you think is black.
But please don't vote for jonn lol.
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On April 05 2011 09:40 CubEdIn wrote:
Because you're smart.
Town: please don't vote for Kav because you owe me, vote for who you think is black.
But please don't vote for jonn lol.
I highly doubt he's THAT good. 4 days in advance? I had my doubts before but this is pretty solid.
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On April 05 2011 09:36 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 09:25 CubEdIn wrote:
I've gone out of my way to explain why trading town (jonn) for scum is a stupid idea several times.
LET SCUMS DEAL WITH IT.
1. They have to waste KP on him and/or Role-Block.
2. This is nothing but beneficial to town.
3. Reds are gonna die anyway.
In my eyes, only a black would want us to lynch a townie, so they can use their KPs on other targets. I mean, fuck, if I was black there'd be nothing better than two of my enemies to go down in one lynch in this scenario, am I right?!
The fact that you're advocating this, alone, makes you 100% black in my eyes.
Please tell me the BENEFIT of trading jonn for scum tonight. Please do!
And again, you don't really have to convince me, convince anyone else.
I'll believe you're town when you flip. I promise. Point conceded. If you are 100% sure that I'm black, than yes. You are correct. However, if you have any doubt that I'm black (there should be, cause I'm not) the safer path is to lynch ilovejohn. I just wish the rest of the town saw this/didn't owe you favors. Oh, and look: You're own plan to check role PM's? Show nested quote +On April 01 2011 18:51 Kavdragon wrote:
Your the you that.
used your redacted.
5,10,15,20,
25,30,35 respectively. Show nested quote +Original Message From kitaman27:
You are the Bulletproof-Bob. Your rough riding experiences during the war have sadly left you so terrified and suspicious that you have borrowed a used bulletproof jacket from your Vietnam buddy. Unfortunately, he was were shot with a cannon in the war, so there is a rather large hole in your vest. If you tell anyone about your vest, they know about the hole, and can shoot you through it. If I had this roleclaim set up earlier, why wouldn't I have claimed it?
Actually if you are what you say you are the safest route is to lynch OriginalName.
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changed vote to OriginalName
you better be fucking town kav.
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On April 05 2011 09:42 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 09:36 Kavdragon wrote:On April 05 2011 09:25 CubEdIn wrote:
I've gone out of my way to explain why trading town (jonn) for scum is a stupid idea several times.
LET SCUMS DEAL WITH IT.
1. They have to waste KP on him and/or Role-Block.
2. This is nothing but beneficial to town.
3. Reds are gonna die anyway.
In my eyes, only a black would want us to lynch a townie, so they can use their KPs on other targets. I mean, fuck, if I was black there'd be nothing better than two of my enemies to go down in one lynch in this scenario, am I right?!
The fact that you're advocating this, alone, makes you 100% black in my eyes.
Please tell me the BENEFIT of trading jonn for scum tonight. Please do!
And again, you don't really have to convince me, convince anyone else.
I'll believe you're town when you flip. I promise. Point conceded. If you are 100% sure that I'm black, than yes. You are correct. However, if you have any doubt that I'm black (there should be, cause I'm not) the safer path is to lynch ilovejohn. I just wish the rest of the town saw this/didn't owe you favors. Oh, and look: You're own plan to check role PM's? On April 01 2011 18:51 Kavdragon wrote:
Your the you that.
used your redacted.
5,10,15,20,
25,30,35 respectively. Original Message From kitaman27:
You are the Bulletproof-Bob. Your rough riding experiences during the war have sadly left you so terrified and suspicious that you have borrowed a used bulletproof jacket from your Vietnam buddy. Unfortunately, he was were shot with a cannon in the war, so there is a rather large hole in your vest. If you tell anyone about your vest, they know about the hole, and can shoot you through it. If I had this roleclaim set up earlier, why wouldn't I have claimed it? Actually if you are what you say you are the safest route is to lynch OriginalName.
You guys are so full of it. Why lynch me over the guy who i dunno has been not only SHOT but BOMBED. Like seriously? This guy is obvscum.
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OriginalName
no one wants to get lynched
its not personal
just try to be more pro town with analysis next time.
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CubEdIn you should switch to ON as well to keep votes one sided
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If you are not CubEdIn, read over my arguments on the last few pages.
Every post that I have made has been trying to put me in as much of a pro-town light as possible. My actions are those of a townie who has been trying to draw hits. Not a black, who should be trying to avoid being shot.
OriginalName is a MUCH better lynch. Read my analysis of him. It is CLEAR that he is BLACK. Not just that he is scum.
Which of us two would you rather lynch? The guy who was unanimously dog-piled with votes, who has played a helpful role in the town, or the guy who is lurking, not helping, and otherwise being really unhelpful. The choice is obvious.
If you are that concerned with killing me, or if you still think that there is a chance that im black, put me into the ring, and have me lynched. Insanious is town, and beneather will follow your vote. Killing a black right now won't lower thier KP, so putting me in the ring if I'm black doesn't hurt the town at all.
Who else would you put in? OriginalName? Would you deley the lurker's exicution in order to kill the active person faster? No! Lynch Original name, put me in the arena!
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