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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 08 2011 03:26 GMT
#5186
coag, i get WAY more shit talked about me then anyone else, purely due to my role.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 08 2011 03:30 GMT
#5193
On April 08 2011 12:27 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 12:23 LSB wrote:
On April 08 2011 12:15 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On April 08 2011 11:56 LSB wrote:
I'll post some PM's

Alignment Claiming
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Original Message From kitaman27:
Hehe ok.

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Original Message From LSB:
Didn't I give tinked a different PM?
And its bad for three reasons.
1) Blues didn't get the PM, and it doesn't account for people getting different PMs
2) Its not foolproof, mafia/sk can easily easily catch on. They should have figured out the 'sit' keyword by now.
3) I gave tinked a different PM (I think) he got the miller one.

If anyone complains, how bout we reply "sit down, nbd"

Original Message From kitaman27:
Are we allowing the quoting of mod alignment pms? I know some of them are worded differently, but that kinda seems like a dirty way to confirm oneself.


Mafia QQing
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Original Message From Qatol:
Seems like a very strong mechanic, but whatever. Regardless, I think what you're doing is fine. The mafia seem to be at fault for their troubles.

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Original Message From LSB:
Each team is given 10 millions Kronos. On the event that one team reaches 20 million Kronos, they are given the opportunity to buy the names of most of the people in the black market (2 reds, 2 blues, 2 blacks)

The blacks were able to pull together 10 mil from their RPG sale, killing Annul, and swindling the Mafia, bringing them to 23 mil, in which the bought the names.

Original Message From Qatol:
Something about a mechanic where half their team is revealed for 10 million?

Original Message From LSB:
Well the black market was this contract style game.

There are three factions right, the blacks, the blues, the reds. I granted them access to the black market where the factions could meet and trade items.

I gave each of the factions a few items, the catch being that they couldn't use the items themselves. What the blacks got were RPGs, these were 1 time KPs that could be doublestaked to go through bulletproof.

Day 1, the blacks decided to host an auction for all 3 of the RPGs, they started it off at 6 million which the mafia bid for, and then the blues ran in and sniped the auction for 7 million.

I don't know why RoL would be mad at the RPGs... maybe his teammates weren't active enough to bid higher?

Original Message From Qatol:
What's this about an RPG sale? RoL is saying that is the thing he's mad about....

Original Message From LSB:
1. The controversy last night was this
First, how I decide the order of the night action.
I group night actions into three categories, modifying night actions (these modify other people's abilities), normal night actions, and KP

The modifying night actions happen first, then the normal night actions, and finally any KP that exists take effect.

Each action in each category happens simultaneously.

Now, on to night 2.
Tnked. Town bus driver
Rol. Mafia Puppetmaster. Is able to control the target of peoples actions.

Both Busing and Puppetting are modifying actions. This mean that they would happen before everything else

Last night the mafia set up this situation. They fed drugs to Tnked so tnked could have two night actions and they controlled him so they could bus two people.

Normally Tnked would be mind controlled. Even though both actions would 'happen simultaneously', they can still effect each other.

However, the problem was that Tnked had anticipated this. I'll take us back to day 2.
Earlier in the day, Tnked contacted me wondering what would happen if he bussed himself with another person and was mind controlled.

I was at a situation here. If Tnked's bus happened first, the mind control would have been bused to a different person, messing up it's effect. If the mind control happened first, Tnked's action would be messed up.

Considering I could not prefer one action over the other, I told Tnked that physics would break and both actions would fail due to a conflict in time.

Later in the day Mafia asked me the question, "Can I mindcontrol the bus driver." I said, yes you can mindcontrol the bus driver.

They sent in the actions, and then day 3 rolled around.

Before day 3 occured, me and kitaman sat down and discussed the actions carefully together, we both agreed that we should follow the decision set forth to tnked and decided that the mafia plan was a bust.

Now, suddenly things fell to pieces, Rol/Meapak got on and started yelling at me about how "since they could mindcontrol the bus driver, obviously the bus driver's actions happen first" and RoL ragequit because of that. Luckly I had pandain who was interested as being a replacement so that situation was solved.

Currently the mafia team seems to have given up. Especially since this other contract orientated mini game I had going, the black market. The mafia lost in the mini game so the identities of Amber[light] and Orgolove were revealed. They took this cue to start suggesting to each other to just give up on the game.

As a host, I'm concerned if there are members on the mafia who want to play, but are disappointed that their teammates aren't trying. In addition, the lack of a mafia team would really screw with balance and rob the third party of their chance of victory.

Original Message From Qatol:
I'm not sure I understand exactly what has been going on. I have literally not followed your thread at all. Could you clarify the abilities that are involved with this?

Original Message From LSB:
So I'm facing the fact that certain parts of the Mafia team are thinking of resigning.
This stems from a few things

1) Their Night 2 actions did not go through because tnked anticipated their actions. Here is the mafia quicktopic http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/TudFTADbJkmv (Just start reading about from Coeurl 137 03-30-2011 10:51 PM ET (US)

2) Loosing the black market game and having two of their member's being revealed as a result, and trying to use this as an excuse to give up.

If you want a point of view from the Mafia's side, you can talk to RoL, who ragequit after finding out that his night 2 actions did not go through.

Now the reason why I'm approaching you is that I don't want to make someone who doesn't want to play play.
Please note, it's not like other people are having trouble. I'm just concerned since the Mafia team (mostly) isn't putting an effort enough in thread for others to play. I'm considering revamping midgame the thread, allowing mafia members to resign and then combining the remaining Mafia team with the 3rd party team, moving everyone into a new thread and starting Day 4 afresh. Same roles, just one enemy.

I would like your advice on this. Thank you.

Sigh, to clarify this. Meapak made the deal with the blacks, not realizing there was a 7 million RPG sale. This caused them to go over 20million marker. The reason meapak made that deal though was because he wasn't let into the black market in time which caused him to no realize what happened.

I already laid out my reasoning for why your bus driver was retarded.


And the Bus driver is imba because you didn't ask questions and its imba that someone who spammed my inbox with ~20 PMs knew more about the mechanic than you?

We asked you if we could control both of his actions if he took the drugs, and you said yes, we could control his actions.

That was the only question we needed to ask.

You changed your mind and decided we couldn't control his actions.

Your defense that he bussed himself doesn't matter, because you said we could CONTROL HIS ACTIONS, which means that his choice of targets would be overwritten with our choice no matter who he targeted, because his targets would not go through.

You either lied to us or changed your mind after explaining it to us, and we made our decisions based on this false information.

If what you had said had been correct, both coag and jackal would have died and we would have won the IG.




Original Message From LSB:
Whoops, all right, last night when going back through the examples, i want back to the first exception that as long as you bus yourself you cannot be mind controlled.

I think I got confused when awnsering your question, sorry, so make that the new response.

IE you did not nessissarily bus the mindcontroller.

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Original Message From tnkted:
Original Message From LSB:
Mindcontrol and Bus are two separate powers. They will not interfere with each other outside of the exception I stated

You will not be mind controlled

Original Message From tnkted:
Ok, what if I bus myself with Bum, and bum was DT checking someone. Would bum then DT check somebody else that GGQ tells him to?

and will I be told if I am mind controlled, or will you put it in the post or what

Original Message From LSB:
The only way mindcontrol can be canceled is if you Bus GGQ. This is because lots of complex things happen and everything goes to pieces, and I don't want to deal with it.

Original Message From tnkted:
Can i extrapolate from coag's situation?

Just tell me if this explaination is the best one for what happened to annul using the definition below:

Scum (say... GGQ) used mindcontrol. He PM'd you saying "I want Coagulation to use his ability on Annul."

Would that definition of mind control be canceled out if I was to bus myself somewhere? Or would they take control of whoever I am bussed with?


This is what I wanted to post.

Original Message From LSB:
You can post this PM

Original Message From LSB:
Both actions would cancel each other out.

Original Message From tnkted:
if i was to bus myself and someone tried to mind control me, would my bussing move me before the mind control hit me or would i be MC'd first?


I asked the specific question, and you guys didn't. He gave me an answer. If he had done the OPPOSITE of what he told me, how would that have been fair to me/town?
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 08 2011 03:31 GMT
#5196
er that might not have been the clearest pm.. let me find a better one hang on
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 08 2011 03:32 GMT
#5198
This is the one i wanted to post


Original Message From LSB:
You can post this PM in thread
Show nested quote +

Original Message From LSB:
Both actions would cancel each other out.

Original Message From tnkted:
if i was to bus myself and mafia tried to bind control me, would my bussing move me before the mind control hit me or would i be MC'd first?
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 08 2011 03:36 GMT
#5203
Right after that he said that he misunderstood my question..?

Look I understand the fustration... you didn't pm him the EXACT SEQUENCE of words that was needed to answer the question you were asking. You didn't know that I could bus myself. There was no way that you could have known that.

You need to give me some credit for coming up with that idea on my own though. LSB certainly didn't think of it. Nobody thought if it. I did, and i broke the game because i found a loophole. I'm not saying that I'm a genuis or anything, just that I found an loophole and exploited it.

Be angry at me, not at LSB. AFAIK he was as fair as he could be.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 08 2011 03:50 GMT
#5220
On April 08 2011 12:49 GMarshal wrote:
*sigh* I hate to have to remind people, but its a *game* dont ruin the fun we all had by going all beserk over a decision in a game of frankly whacky balance. I enjoyed laughing at the shennanigans, and raging over a game that is over is a waste of time.


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'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 08 2011 03:50 GMT
#5222
are awards getting posted tonight or can I go afk for the night?
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 09 2011 02:47 GMT
#5306
On April 09 2011 11:05 LSB wrote:
Deagle, the early game beast: Tnkted. I’d like to welcome tnkted to one of his first mafia games, and congratulate him on ripping face in the item game and night 2. Later on he could have done better, but we will always remember what he did the first two nights


Good to be here! Thanks! You are of course referring to my hero bus that destroyed the red team and the PM breadcrumbing that killed darm?


Ballist Play Leamonwalrus and Meapak_Zipphh. For the Day 1 fake claim. In one of the most intense moments of the game, here is the chat logs.
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[21:02] <Lemonwalrus> in the meantime I'll hunt for clues
[21:02] <Meapak_Ziphh> IF ANYONE HAS EVER GOT A TOWN PM BEFORE FROM LSB POST IT IN THE QT FOR ANALYSIS
[21:12] < Meapak_Ziphh> JACK FUCKING POT
[21:12] < Meapak_Ziphh> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=200702&currentpage=39#772
[21:13] <Meapak_Ziphh> this qoute
[21:13] <Meapak_Ziphh> JACK FUCKING POT
[21:15] <Meapak_Ziphh> DONT BE AFK WALRUS
[21:15] <Meapak_Ziphh> POST THE DAMN QOUTE
[21:16] <Lemonwalrus> how do you know?
[21:16] <Lemonwalrus> if i post and i'm wrong i'm immediately scum for sure
[21:17] <Lemonwalrus> we shouldn't have to take fucking risks like this
[21:17] <Meapak_Ziphh> 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
[21:17] <Meapak_Ziphh> percent sure
[21:17] <Meapak_Ziphh> it's the phrase
[21:17] <Meapak_Ziphh> townie minding my own buisness
[21:17] <Meapak_Ziphh> but face it walrus
[21:17] <Lemonwalrus> what if he is smart enough to sprinkle random phrases that weren't there in his posts
[21:18] <Meapak_Ziphh> they'rer going t check you tonight
[21:18] <Meapak_Ziphh> you'll come back red
[21:18] <Meapak_Ziphh> we have to ball up
[21:19] <Meapak_Ziphh> lemme PM LSB
[21:19] <Meapak_Ziphh> no you do it
[21:19] <Lemonwalrus> i just did
[21:21] <Lemonwalrus> Mafia tip. Every plan has a weakness, see if you can spot this one's
[21:21] <Lemonwalrus> his response to me
[21:21] <Meapak_Ziphh> gogo
[21:21] <Lemonwalrus> wat?
[21:22] <Meapak_Ziphh> his advice is to trick them
[21:22] <Meapak_Ziphh> please walrus
[21:22] <Meapak_Ziphh> you can hate me forever
[21:22] <Meapak_Ziphh> if im wrong
[21:23] <Lemonwalrus> ugh
[21:23] <Lemonwalrus> so just post that quote?
[21:23] <Meapak_Ziphh> his entire post
[21:23] <Meapak_Ziphh> qoute it
[21:24] <Lemonwalrus> k, i'm doing this
[21:24] <Lemonwalrus> if i am found out you suck but still good luck winning without me
[21:24] <Meapak_Ziphh> thank you
[21:25] <Meapak_Ziphh> russian roulette...
[21:25] <Lemonwalrus> FUCK WHO THOUGHT FORUMS COULD GET THIS FUCKING INTENSE
[21:26] <Lemonwalrus> i'm like almost breaking a sweat here
[21:26] <Meapak_Ziphh> lol I'm sweating irl
[21:26] <Lemonwalrus> mafia is awesome
[21:26] <Meapak_Ziphh> yeah
[21:26] <Lemonwalrus> god i hope someone posts confirming me soon
[21:26] <Lemonwalrus> ever second that passes is agonizing
[21:26] <Meapak_Ziphh> yes
[21:26] <Meapak_Ziphh> well will you be coming back for another game?
[21:27] <Meapak_Ziphh> GOD FUCK THIS IS AGONIZING
[21:27] <Meapak_Ziphh> f5f5f5f5f5f5
[21:46] <Lemonwalrus> fuck yes meapak your gambit worked
[21:46] <Lemonwalrus> i would kiss you if i knew you irl
[21:47] <Meapak_Ziphh> I WIN SO HARD RIGHT NOW
[21:47] <Meapak_Ziphh> #WINNING

I’d like to congratulate them on pulling it off.


THIS WAS HILARIOUS. NJ guys, I knew I should have sprinkled in some more fake clues. I seriously considered revealing the plan before actually dropping hints just to see what you guys would have done. TBH tho you guys got the easiest and most obvious post. If you had chosen VIRTUALLY any other post of mine i would have called shenanigans and lemon would have immediately died.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 09 2011 02:47 GMT
#5307
*starts to swagger a little*
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 05:23 GMT
#5361
I can see the poster now... I'll be driving RoL on the bus and LSB will be laughing in the clouds, while RoL shakes his fist in rage...
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 14:55 GMT
#5373
If i had done it i would have put myself in as tinkerbell or something.

but LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 22:18 GMT
#5392
I would love to cast! When is the event going down? My throat is kind of fucked at the moment, but in a day or two I'm sure I'll be fine.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 11 2011 22:19 GMT
#5393
and oh shit, i need a BW cd key. Anyone willing to lend me their account for the evening? Otherwise I'll just go buy it, shits like 5 bucks now.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 12 2011 01:18 GMT
#5417
So Myself Rean and Wiggles casting? Shouldn't have more than 3 or so.

And iccup may be free but BW cd keys aren't, and I left mine at home when I went to college.

I'll just go buy it tomorrow. I've already got a mic and everything, this is gonna be great!
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 12 2011 01:49 GMT
#5422
I agree me gm and wiggles would be hilarious, but i thought rean was streaming? I can't stream, i dont have the equipment.

the players should choose the casters IMO
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 12 2011 01:55 GMT
#5428
Yeah lemon has a good point, casters should be drinking constantly throughout the show. In addition, after every game, we need to announce how many drinks/beers/shots we are in. At the end of the cast, the caster with the most drinks under his belt wins!
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 12 2011 02:47 GMT
#5436
RoL you need to post your offical statement in the grudgematch thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=211590&currentpage=2
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 12 2011 02:56 GMT
#5437
we should have some good BW players be coaches for the two players! Anyone here good at BW? I know Ver competes in some tourneys in SC2, is he any good at SC1?
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 17 2011 18:30 GMT
#5449
Do we have a definate stream yet? Rean's been having trouble connecting to the rest of us in BW.

I'll be back home in a few hours, we can figure this out then. Otherwise, if the stream isn't too delayed, we can do some sort of screencapture shit of whoever is hosting to let the rest of the casters be able to cast.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
April 17 2011 18:36 GMT
#5451
On April 18 2011 03:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
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On April 18 2011 03:30 tnkted wrote:
Do we have a definate stream yet? Rean's been having trouble connecting to the rest of us in BW.

I'll be back home in a few hours, we can figure this out then. Otherwise, if the stream isn't too delayed, we can do some sort of screencapture shit of whoever is hosting to let the rest of the casters be able to cast.


I'm going to try to set up a stream and see if it works.


Get it up fast, we'll test when I get home.
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