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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 10 2011 04:46 GMT
#66
/in
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 11 2011 04:20 GMT
#124
As much as I would like to lynch Coagulation on day 1, I don't think that's the wisest idea.

Some of these roles seem really silly. I sincerely hope that BrownBear has to make a pun with every post.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 11 2011 04:23 GMT
#126
On February 11 2011 13:19 Ace wrote:
post count and being known aren't important in scum hunting. If you dont wanna convince people you're just as bad as the people saying I knew it all along!!! at the end of the game.


Coagulation rarely has a high post count. Or maybe the things he says tend to be so unsubstantial that I don't notice him. He usually doesn't seem too active to me. Hell, in XXXVI he was all "I'm not posting because I don't have much to say".
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 11 2011 07:51 GMT
#179
On February 11 2011 16:17 gryffindor wrote:
I am not really for Day 1 policy lynches if the person is town. Does anyone have any meta on Coagulation? I don't want to lose a player to a mislynch, though I do not know his alignment. Can anyone help out on this?


Coagulation is generally known for being spammy and in general terrible. That's not to say it's entirely true, but it's what he's known for. However, he often has decent reads on who is mafia, but isn't really able to back them up with proper analysis and arguments.

For instance, in XXXVI he correctly identified about half of the scum team in his posts. Everybody ignored him, and I can't blame them for doing so. The rest of his posts were mostly spam and defense of himself when he was called out for being spammy.

His play is ordinary so far.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 11 2011 08:23 GMT
#183
On February 11 2011 16:56 gryffindor wrote:
So, let me get this straight, you're defending him by saying he plays the same way as both town and scum?


I'm not defending him in particular. I don't think there's enough to go on to lynch anybody, yet. You asked for a read on Coagulation, and I gave it to you. Do I want his play to improve? Certainly. Does that change my opinion on him now? Nope.

I haven't actually played with a scum Coagulation in a long time. I think the only game I've played with him where that happened was Haunted Mafia, back in October (?). I don't think that he's actually done anything scummy yet this game. He's been a little spammy, but he hasn't contributed (or, more importantly, posed as having contributed) or done the sort of thing that actually rings warning bells for me.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 11 2011 08:42 GMT
#189
On February 11 2011 17:34 gryffindor wrote:
I have to agree with Misder. Node is reading as if he is buddying up to defend a mislynch as scum.
vote: Node


I don't follow what you said. You think my plan is to let Coagulation die (even though I'm apparently defending him), and then when we realize that he's not scum (which, as far as I know, we can't), come out and say "I told you so". Do I have it right?
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 11 2011 08:56 GMT
#194
On February 11 2011 17:47 Ace wrote:
Actually a hard to read player is still bad


Speak for yourself.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 11 2011 16:50 GMT
#218
On February 11 2011 13:00 BrownBear wrote:
looks like Coag's about to reach...

the end of his rope.

(reporting in!)



On February 11 2011 22:54 BrownBear wrote:
Looks like a plan's beginning to... coagulate (man this is hard)

Vote: BrownBear as a placeholder for the time being. I'ma try to analyze when I get the chance.


On February 12 2011 00:33 BrownBear wrote:
I find your justification of OMGUS to be rather Misderable.




Seriously, though, as much as I like puns I hope you can do something else. Otherwise it's a really crappy town role (or scum).
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 12 2011 02:47 GMT
#288
Yeah, I agree that name-claiming likely isn't the best idea. Since very few of us know what the names actually mean, the only thing that it might give us is the potential to predict behavior, which will only distract us from whether or not people are actually scummy.

I mean, I can't imagine that certain names will be blatantly scum, since this is all based on personality, and personality != alignment.

For now, I'm going to vote Insanious, since I know he can be a good townie and it scares me that he hasn't contributed.

And for the record, FOS on bumatlarge. He seemed far too eager to egg on gryffindor's (fake) argument against me.

##Vote Insanious

whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 12 2011 02:48 GMT
#289
EBWOP: I also dislike the way bum responded to Coag's pressure.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 12 2011 06:32 GMT
#339
On February 12 2011 14:15 beefy187 wrote:
Vote: Ace
Its my policy to vote for people who votes for me. I'll make them pay...

Now I don't know most of you, but I'm glad that fluffy is behaving well... His my responsibility and its nice to see him playing properly.


I don't understand this post at all. First off, I hope the first part about voting Ace isn't serious. If it is, worst policy ever. Secondly, what is your relation to fluffy?

Aidnai and kitaman are probably both town. The things kitaman quoted really aren't scummy in the least. It's just a player wandering around and applying pressure . And I can't see a mafia trying to tunnel aidnai out of the blue... he's just not important enough. That's not to say he's a bad player, but he's not a high-priority veteran the way, say, RoL seems to be every time he plays.

What I find most curious is this post:

On February 12 2011 12:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 07:25 aidnai wrote:
Gryffindor. You'll notice towns on TL.net like to throw around FOSs at the most active players.

Remember everyone, zerroth is not the only inactive at present.

People with no posts since day start:
- Siniquity
- Zerroth
- Project Psycho*
- Johnhughthom*
- ELITEcubwarman8*
- Insanious
- Beefy187*
- me_viet*
* indicates people with no posts in this thread at all, meaning they may not have access yet. If access is not granted soon, I hope Pevergreen would consider extending day some more.

Of the people without asterisks, all of them (insanious, siniquity, and zerroth) have had issues with inactivity in the past, and are all equally eligible for that sort of policy lynch. Actually I don't remember any mod actions against siniquity (I know zerroth has a modkill/ban and insanious is sitting on a warning). But I don't remember siniquity being particularly active either.
IN ANY CASE, the sheeping on zerroth is DT worthy, as Ace pointed out.

Also, I'd like to say this post is scummy.


WHOA!!!!!

THIS GUY NEEDS TO DIE. NOW!

I can't believe no one else caught on to this. Everyone should change their vote to this guy in the next 6 hours or I'm going to become extremely suspicious. Analysis coming shortly.

Unvote
Vote aidnai


Why the hell did that post in particular make you think aidnai is scum? Makes no sense to me. I don't think you're scum, but you're definitely misguided if you think that was a scummy post.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 12 2011 06:33 GMT
#341
On February 12 2011 15:30 pevergreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 14:58 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Mod, are there any rules on activity, and what does vote in 3/4ths of lynches mean?


This is as harsh as I've been in activity requirements, ever.

If you don't have a valid vote registered in 75% of day phases, you will be modkilled. So you can skim by with 3 posts over 4 days phases with just a vote.

Lurking is a strategy, up to you if you punish a player for not posting a lot.


At what point would a player actually be modkilled? If I understand this right, nobody can be modkilled until day 4?
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 12 2011 07:02 GMT
#352
Yeah, this game is ridiculously lenient activity-wise. Usually I'm not a huge supporter of lynching inactives, but since they're basically never going to die off on their own we're going to have to use the lynch to either scare them out or kill them. Otherwise it'll be far, far too easy for mafia to hide among them.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 12 2011 07:36 GMT
#361
On February 12 2011 16:22 gryffindor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 16:02 Node wrote:
Yeah, this game is ridiculously lenient activity-wise. Usually I'm not a huge supporter of lynching inactives, but since they're basically never going to die off on their own we're going to have to use the lynch to either scare them out or kill them. Otherwise it'll be far, far too easy for mafia to hide among them.

However, sometimes people are simply just inactive. It is not always the best to just gun for the easy targets; it is not efficient to always look low. Ace can be scum, just the same as someone who is lurking, so it is proper to analyze everyone somehow.


Of course I don't believe that we should abandon analysis in favor of killing an inactive every day. Analysis always will be the town's strongest weapon, and there's no reason not to call out scummy behavior when you see it.

On February 12 2011 16:22 gryffindor wrote:
I like that you are kind of doing this, though you could actually do something about it, as opposed to complaining.


My vote is on Insanious. What more would you like from me?
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 12 2011 07:39 GMT
#363
On February 12 2011 16:36 Node wrote:
My vote is on Insanious. What more would you like from me?


On February 12 2011 16:36 Insanious wrote:
Alrighty so, I'm finally settled in with my net on. Was at work in the morning, then on a train to come back to see the rents. Now that I have time to actually sit down and read the thread, the fun can begin.

As a start, I would like to simply

Vote: Insanious

There now that this is out of the way time to read up on what has happened so far.


Your timing is impeccable.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 12 2011 08:13 GMT
#372
On February 12 2011 16:51 gryffindor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 16:36 Node wrote:
My vote is on Insanious. What more would you like from me?

I'd like to hear your thoughts on possible scumteam pairings. Who do you feel Insanious is scum with? He doesn't feel that scummy to me. Why do you suspect him?


He was inactive. I wanted to see him post. I placed a vote on him. I'm not really sure how else I could pressure someone who had yet to say anything in relation to the game.

As for active posters, I'm more suspicious of bumatlarge than anyone else:

On February 12 2011 11:47 Node wrote:
And for the record, FOS on bumatlarge. He seemed far too eager to egg on gryffindor's (fake) argument against me.


The post I was referring to:

On February 11 2011 17:04 bumatlarge wrote:
Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?


I also disliked his "refutation" of Coagulation's post on how he was acting scummy:

On February 11 2011 19:02 bumatlarge wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 11 2011 17:38 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 17:04 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 11 2011 16:56 gryffindor wrote:
So, let me get this straight, you're defending him by saying he plays the same way as both town and scum?


Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?


really man?

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 13:50 Coagulation wrote:
We should lynch zerroth
because the last game
completely inactive
only posted/vote to avoid modkill etc

Lets get the inactives out now



lets look at your contributions so far in this game
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 01:09 bumatlarge wrote:
Once you are dead, you are free from any guidelines or constraints your role may have placed on you.


Ohhh a penalty-esque game? I do have to redeem myself for the last one for Ace -_-

/In!


Awesome you joined the game!

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 15:29 bumatlarge wrote:
Alright time to get started.
Yep
Hopefully I can make good use of this role, as I have to do the character justice.
Filler
Coagulation has already spouted off to his random tangents, so we might be better off without him.
shows willingness to jump on the easy bandwagon. cause scum love easy bandwagons. that makes town sit around and not analyze people.
I still want to see what everyone is posting like, because I am seeing a good number of sentence long posts with nothing in it.
similar to this post.
Too be expected. I'm not putting my vote anywhere yet until I see what I want to see.
what is this? theres nothing of any value to your post so far for town.
"im not gonna vote"
awesome thanks for letting us know.


Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 17:04 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 11 2011 16:56 gryffindor wrote:
So, let me get this straight, you're defending him by saying he plays the same way as both town and scum?


Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?


So wait.. i clearly showed you my indication of trying to help town. you disregarded that to blow out of proportion that i am anti town for your own purposes clearly.
If you need an example of me trying to help town with info go ahead an read up top again.

your last post you decided your not gonna vote...OK......And now im the EASY Choice?
What changed your mind?
Show nested quote +
I'm not putting my vote anywhere yet until I see what I want to see.


What did you see?
Sounds wishy washy to me. I dont think you seen anything but an easy lynch.
And mafia love easy lynches. because it makes town not focus on scumhunting.
is that what you seen?

if your mafia
im going to hand your ass to town on a silver platter.
I will be watching you.


You are right, I am mafia.




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