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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 06:09:08
January 28 2011 03:14 GMT
#25
I haven't played a mafia game yet, so this seems like an interesting place to start. Count me /in.
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 11 2011 01:20 GMT
#88
Got my PM too.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 11 2011 04:40 GMT
#137
so how do we decide whether we lynch someone one the first day or not?
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 11 2011 06:35 GMT
#162
Since everyone has a specified role to take, will looking at past games still be important for analysis? People could be playing up their characters and forcefully change their posting habits, but that's hard to tell.
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 11 2011 06:44 GMT
#165
On February 11 2011 15:35 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Yeah, normally people don't frown on double, or even triple posting. So long as you have something to say, it's a lot better than editing.

I do think we should threaten inactives and/or lurkers a bit, though not necessarily lynch them the first day if a better target comes up. This would hopefully get everybody talking more, especially during the short day (~24 hours only), and make it more likely for scum to slip up.

Thoughts?


Starting with the inactives is probably a good start since the game plays out in more interesting ways with active players. But there's still a modkill option, so I don't really know how much of a threat it is to pick them off early.

I will also wait to vote to see if the lynch is a majority vote or a high count.
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 11 2011 07:02 GMT
#170
Also, when does the voting actually start for the first day? I see a few votes before the intro. Do those still count?
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 11 2011 07:11 GMT
#174
On February 11 2011 16:07 Coagulation wrote:
like are the votes disregarded until the end of vote time frame and then tallied up and most person with votes lynched

or does voting close as soon as someone receives majority of votes and lynched.


I think it is the first option....otherwise there could be a lot of wasted time during each day phase if we get a quick majority
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 12 2011 01:56 GMT
#282
On February 12 2011 02:47 kitaman27 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 11 2011 15:35 JBright wrote:
Since everyone has a specified role to take, will looking at past games still be important for analysis? People could be playing up their characters and forcefully change their posting habits, but that's hard to tell.



Can you guys cut it out? I'm starting to think you're doing this on purpose.....


On February 12 2011 10:36 Misder wrote:
To all those that have played pevergreen's previous games- are there any chars that are assumed scum?



Whoa there. Don't know if those are just part of your characters, but you don't have to start accusing people as mafia just because of it. A character and someone's alignment should be completely separate things (at least that's what I think), so no need to jump the gun.

Hmm, so far the votes are still looks to be pretty distributed other than Zerroth. Unless something drastic happens within the next 7-8 hours, he will probably be lynched. I guess I'll just vote for someone who is inactive but still have no votes yet.

Vote: Insanious
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 12 2011 03:35 GMT
#299
On February 12 2011 12:11 Coagulation wrote:

ok so game hasnt even started yet. no day post or anything i havnt even posted a seriouse post regarding the game and boom hes out the gates trying to get someone lynched
[/spoiler]

Not that it would have counted; only votes after the intro count toward the final tally.

On a side note, I find that a lot of the analyses so far have been personal grudges (maybe not to that extent) from previous games and not necessarily logical according to the rules of this setup.
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 12 2011 05:43 GMT
#333
Right now Zerroth has a clear lead in the votes, but have we confirmed what will happen if we get a tie in the votes?
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 12 2011 06:22 GMT
#337
I find it interesting that several of the more active posters haven't put in a vote yet. At least I haven't seen one from bumatlarge, Coagulation, or gryffindor. I wonder what they are up to and what sort of last minute voting we will have.

Oh well, there is that 75% voting safety net for them.
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 12 2011 06:34 GMT
#342
Hmm, so the earliest possible modkill will be after the 2nd day. If someone doesn't vote in the first 2 days, they automatically suffer WoG.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 12 2011 18:31 GMT
#400
On February 13 2011 02:37 deconduo wrote:
Interesting. Twins are usually of opposing alignments so I had a look at Lunar's Posts:

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 11 2011 10:00 LunarDestiny wrote:
Ok. I got a fucked up pm. AND my character happens to be gay. WTF.


On February 11 2011 10:07 LunarDestiny wrote:
Everyone, first find your character here.

forums.totalwar.org/vb

I found mine pretty easily. Also will name claiming be any help in this game?


On February 11 2011 13:01 LunarDestiny wrote:
Coag is actually very good at scum hunting. He played ton of games.

He just don't like to write long post to convince others.


On February 11 2011 13:13 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 13:03 thefluffyone93 wrote:
I say pever, you didn't burden someone with the role that forces the player to write in huge, multi-colored text, and occasionally post meme pictures, did you?

Because that would be very.....annoying.

Put foot in mouth.

I herd you liek me, so I put me into me to make meme.


On February 11 2011 13:28 LunarDestiny wrote:
There are also no ‘joker’ or ‘actor’ roles. No one will obtain victory by being lynched.

Just want to restate this because I will be force to do a couple of things very silly. My character is fucking stupid.


On February 12 2011 05:17 LunarDestiny wrote:
I will be busy throughout the first day. I'll catchup on monday (day2?).

I see people are exerting huge pressure on one person. To me, Zerroth is playing the lurking/inactive style like the last game. It'll be great if it will make him more active but it is like mafia can slip by unnoticed if it stays like this.

Also placing a vote to avoid modkill.

Vote: LunarGotNoDestiny




He made no particular effort to change the lynch which leads me to believe that he didn't know he was linked to zerroth. Considering it took a measly 5 votes to lynch zerroth it doesn't look like mafia (or any other party) made a significant attempt to redirect the lynch.

Another point to notice is that there was only 16 real votes placed out of 30, and these were spread out over 11 candidates. This is shockingly bad play. We need to be a lot more united to make any headway in this game, especially considering that there are probably several ~3 person factions with alternative victory conditions. If we allow scum/3rd party to lead the lynch wherever they want we are totally screwed. I know this was day one and there isn't a lot to go on, but we seriously need to pick it up a bit.



I've thought about the different alignments for twins as well, but it will be hard to determine anything, other than suspicious play, until the first night is over. The activity so far in this game has come in waves...a whole bunch of posts in a short period and then nothing for a few hours.

I'm still curious as to why Coagulation didn't put down a vote. Several players' votes were discounted (late or wrong format) but they at least tried. A second day without votes would mean a modkill, so I'll be looking closely at those people for the second day.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 13 2011 16:33 GMT
#438
Seeing that there were only 2KP, there are several possibilities that I can think of...

1) lovers were town/mafia - we have 1 mafia faction (1 kill) and at least 1 third party killer (depending on successful saves and roleblocks)
2a) lovers were mafia/mafia - there are 2 mafia factions and uncertain existence of 3rd parties
2b) lovers were mafia/mafia - only kingpin is left and uncertain existence of 3rd parties
3) lovers were town/town - 1 mafia faction and uncertain existence of 3rd parties

I have only put down the minimum number of mafia factions that I can think of since having more means that the docs and roleblockers got really lucky with their actions.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 13 2011 20:31 GMT
#456
On February 14 2011 02:48 thefluffyone93 wrote:
Vote: Misder

and round and round we go....


Careful about the edit, although I'm not sure how much was changed.

Doesn't seem like a lot of people respond to my stuff...maybe they are a little low on content.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 13 2011 23:23 GMT
#466
It's been surprisingly quiet for this day cycle. That makes the voting a bit harder. Since the first set of modkills can potentially happen tonight, I'll try to vote for someone who has a counted vote for day 1. Hmm, the OMGUS votes from beefy and thefluffyone seems kinda weird to me (they responded in a similar manner, but could be part of their characters). Since fluffy already has a vote, I'll go for beefy.

Vote: Beefy187
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 14 2011 06:01 GMT
#491
Considering the amount of activity we've been having, 5 votes for Misder is probably more than enough to get him lynched.

It's already been a full day/night cycle and we still don't have too many clues as to who is mafia. Just wondering, how come it seems like I'm being ignored/left out of the conversation?
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 15 2011 15:28 GMT
#627
On February 15 2011 23:47 beefy187 wrote:
Some org regulars whom are still alive are.
Beefy (Japanese, friend of pevergreen, lynched when innocent and survives when mafia)
Chaotix (As fluffy said I'm playing him. Vengeful)
fluffy (spammy)
Beskar (Witty British guy)
TinCow (Mafia hunter. Prosecutor)
GeneralHandkerchief ( God of Org mafia. Creator of all)
Sasaki Kojiro (Always suspicious. He votes for Csargo)
Romanic (analyzer)
atheotes (always mafia. Always)
Secura (Beskars friend)

Theres a few more I cannot think of right now, or players who are not regular anymore (like Kommodus)

Vote: gryffindor
Seems to be the best out of small option I have.



TinCow is Ace, so he's dead.

Also, looking at the list of players at the .org databasedatabase, several people on your list don't want to get invited to games anymore (beefy, GeneralHandkerchief, Sasaki, TinCow).

I've been doing a poor job at playing my role, but how could you act as someone who's on an unlucky streak?
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 16 2011 02:01 GMT
#676
On February 16 2011 08:29 kitaman27 wrote:
Really, no one opposes this? Also, shouldn't there be more discussion on the extra night hit and/or the lack of day hit so far?


The last day hit happened near the end of the cycle, so we'll probably have to wait a few more hours to see what turns up. I think that if pever posts it up as soon as he gets the PM, then it could reveal something like the location/time zone of the killer.

My hypotheses about the extra night kill - did we somehow get lucky and got both grunts? So, assuming the lovers were town/mafia, we took care of one grunt on the first day. So then mafia had 1 kill and a 3rd party had another. Then one of the following - the Misder lynch, the kitaman daykill, or the 5 modkills - killed the second grunt. I don't think the modkills could include a mafia grunt since that happened at the same time as the 3 night kills, but I'm just bringing up the possibilities. Now we have the GF having 2 kills for himself and the 3rd party is still around.


On February 16 2011 00:37 deconduo wrote:
@JBright

Just fyi, you are not allowed to reveal anything from the red text in your PM. If that is the case for that comment at the I would advise you to edit it out and beg forgiveness from pever.


Yes, I left out everything that could be associated with the red text.


ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 16 2011 02:05 GMT
#677
EBYOP: well, don't I look stupid. I didn't consider the different writing styles.

There hasn't been too much activity outside of the really active players, so I don't have a good read on the others. Guess I'll jump on the bandwagon too.

Vote: GGQ
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 16 2011 05:49 GMT
#694
On February 16 2011 14:39 LunarDestiny wrote:
At least you guys are alive, I am dead.


Hey, but you can still help out. Being dead doesn't mean you automatically lost.

On February 16 2011 14:37 chaoser wrote:
They out in PM land probably, sadly I'm not part of it =[ you'd think an invite would make me actually want to be a bit more active lol


I feel you. Sometimes these PM circles are too restrictive.

On February 16 2011 14:10 SiNiquity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 15:43 chaoser wrote:
BACK! I will 100% read and analyze tomorrow, you can hold me to that, if I don't you can lynch me =p



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On February 15 2011 13:47 chaoser wrote:
Wow, finally caught up. Man, taking 5 modkills up the butt ain't so good at all. I was just wondering, why isn't aidnai being pressured more? Maybe it's just me reading too fast combined with a slight fever cause I have a cold but his claim against Ace and then Ace coming in to show just how wrong everything was seems really strange...Am I just not getting something? Either way FoS aidnai.



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On February 16 2011 04:47 chaoser wrote:
##Vote GGQ

Bandwagoning ain't a thang




I also find it hard to believe that GGQ is scum, but it's not really easy to identify a better candidate. There have been quite a few analyses already and most of them give mixed messages at best. It's also especially hard to give a good analysis since people can claim a different personality was forced upon them by the role PM.

By now, everyone except aidnai has voted for this day and no one will get modkilled. I guess I'll jump off the bandwagon and vote for someone who didn't get a registered vote for day 2.

Unvote
Vote:ilovejonn
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 16 2011 15:16 GMT
#723
On February 16 2011 22:33 pevergreen wrote:
ilovejonn has been modkilled for breaking the rules.

I was going to do a role update and reveal the number of remaining anti-town players etc, but after the breaking of rules, no.


Hmm, this sounds like we potentially offed at least one member of the anti-town players. There is still hope.

We've been getting really unlucky with the role claiming modkills, but that's how things go when we play with a new set of rules.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 16 2011 22:35 GMT
#766
On February 17 2011 03:58 Believer wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here, as other people also have. I think we need more clarity for the town to be able to sort out the scum from us all.


"
You are Renata

You are a veteran player who always contributes to the sake of the town, even if mafia. You disguise yourself well in the midst of players, so as to not make yourself vulnerable. Due to time constraints you have been playing less and less during the recent couple of months but are eager to squeeze out a victory.

Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
"


Most of the others have poked a lot of holes in this name claim already, but I'm curious on one side thing....is Renata a male or a female name?
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 17 2011 03:44 GMT
#777
On February 17 2011 03:58 Believer wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here, as other people also have. I think we need more clarity for the town to be able to sort out the scum from us all.


"
You are Renata

You are a veteran player who always contributes to the sake of the town, even if mafia. You disguise yourself well in the midst of players, so as to not make yourself vulnerable. Due to time constraints you have been playing less and less during the recent couple of months but are eager to squeeze out a victory.

Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
"


From what I've read over at the org, it seems like Renata is quite a mafia player...and she's pretty good at hiding it as well. Here. Not sure if pever forgot about this (if this is the real role PM), but Renata has participated in 2 games that ended in January 2011. This Renata person plays mostly in large games (17 or more players), so I suspect that the "playing less and less" part comes from that aspect. The more I look into her actions over there, the more I think this is faked.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 17 2011 03:48 GMT
#779
EBWOP: Sorry, that would be 3 games. Here, Here, and Here.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 17 2011 14:41 GMT
#808
Hmm, I'll just go with this.

Vote: Believer

Reason:

From: pevergreen [ 178 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Orgah mafia Role PM
Date: 2/11/11 09:44
You are Renata

One of the few female members of the Gameroom, you’re pressed for time lately, but you have an unlucky streak of being picked as mafia.

You are Town
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 18 2011 03:48 GMT
#884
Looks like I got played? Man, I'm so gullible. I don't think Gryffindor is mafia, so I'll change my vote.

Unvote
Vote: thefluffyone93
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 23 2011 02:59 GMT
#1264
Great games by a lot of people. As a new player, I am really impressed by the effort and activity of the dedicated players and kinda feel inadequate in my contribution. I definitely fell off in my activity as the game went on, but I'm happy that town won.
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