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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 17 2011 22:38 GMT
#841
On February 17 2011 06:14 Coagulation wrote:
deconduo
SiNiquity
JBright
gryffindor
Believer
Insanious
thefluffyone93
Beefy187
chaoser
GMarshal
ilovejonn
aidnai

Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 17 2011 22:39 GMT
#842
gryffindor looks more like a bored townie
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 17 2011 22:39 GMT
#843
dont forget i get killed right after i posted that list.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 17 2011 22:42 GMT
#844
On February 18 2011 07:38 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 06:14 Coagulation wrote:
deconduo
SiNiquity
JBright
gryffindor
Believer
Insanious
thefluffyone93
Beefy187
chaoser
GMarshal
ilovejonn
aidnai


Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 17 2011 22:44 GMT
#845
On February 18 2011 07:14 thefluffyone93 wrote:
Yes, I've been very inactive. By the time I look at the thread each day, another 2 pages are up, and any analysis I have had already been stated already. And simply restating analysis seems scummy in my eyes.



OuHKAYYyyy THIS Post makes my scumdar tickle.
thefluffyone93
Profile Joined February 2011
26 Posts
February 17 2011 22:54 GMT
#846
Why?
Stating what I think feels scummy makes me scummy?
Circular reasoning at work.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 17 2011 23:55 GMT
#847
Requesting post-death analysis of darmousseh for anyone who is looking for something to do.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 18 2011 00:03 GMT
#848
On February 18 2011 08:55 kitaman27 wrote:
Requesting post-death analysis of darmousseh for anyone who is looking for something to do.



I can do it for you.

1. Darmousseh screws up claiming dt to decon and gets modkilled.
2. Mafia KP is still 2.

Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 18 2011 00:27 GMT
#849
On February 18 2011 09:03 darmousseh wrote:
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On February 18 2011 08:55 kitaman27 wrote:
Requesting post-death analysis of darmousseh for anyone who is looking for something to do.

2. Mafia KP is still 2.


You know that for a fact?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 18 2011 00:32 GMT
#850
On February 18 2011 09:27 kitaman27 wrote:
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On February 18 2011 09:03 darmousseh wrote:
On February 18 2011 08:55 kitaman27 wrote:
Requesting post-death analysis of darmousseh for anyone who is looking for something to do.

2. Mafia KP is still 2.


You know that for a fact?


They killed 2 people right?
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 18 2011 00:53 GMT
#851
two people died, that does not mean mafia killed two people, there exists the possibility of a vigilante like role, or a third party committing killings
Moderator
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
February 18 2011 01:09 GMT
#852
A number of pevergreen's previous games have featured 'late-blooming' serial killers who don't start with a killing power but are granted one later.
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
February 18 2011 01:24 GMT
#853
Facts

Alive: 11 10/30
  1. deconduo
  2. SiNiquity
  3. JBright ~ Counterclaimed Believer's character claim.
  4. gryffindor
  5. Believer ~ Faked a claim. Posts PMs from a dead player (guessing these are true since Coag hasn't gone off going "OMGOMGOMG" yet).
  6. Insanious ~ Has 5 posts
  7. thefluffyone93 ~ Omitted "You are Town" from character claim.
  8. Beefy187
  9. chaoser
  10. GMarshal
  11. ilovejonn mod-killed idk why he's on the list


At this rate though we're effectively at LyLo under worst case scenario (barring some random element making a kill last night in place of a mafia kill). If there's a 3rd party that adds KP then we're effectively screwed (unless 1 mafia is already dead, in which case who cares since it's effectively the same scenario), so I'm running under the assumption that there's not. Furthermore, if there were a 3rd party I'd be betting it on darmousseh based on:

On February 18 2011 07:28 darmousseh wrote:
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On February 18 2011 07:23 kitaman27 wrote:
Why
You are Andres.

You have a Beautiful Mind, but you want to share your gift with others! Once per day you must post a cryptic message completely void of meaning. You and pevergreen form the feared mentally unstable scum fighting duo!

You are Town
Victory condition: You win when you can convince someone of a secret communist plot buried in old newspaper clippings.



Wouldn't the part
Show nested quote +
Victory condition: You win when you can convince someone of a secret communist plot buried in old newspaper clippings.
be in red?



10 players (7 town, 3 mafia) --> mislynch
9 players (6 town, 3 mafia) --> 2 night kills
7 players (4 town, 3 mafia) --> correct lynch!
6 players (4 town, 2 mafia) --> 1 night kill
5 players (3 town, 2 mafia) --> correct lynch!
4 players (3 town, 1 mafia) --> 2 night kills (worst case; 1 nk if gf dead).
2 players --> (1 town, 1 mafia) mafia wins

If we lynch the grandfather then we have one more night, but we're really pushing our luck. However, getting it right here is huge as it will drop mafia to 1 KP. And if we got GF here then we're golden.

Analysis

Fluffy seems to be the obvious choice. It's practically impossible to omit something from the middle of the PM when copying / pasting. Furthermore said "... when all town forces are eliminated."

JBright effectively confirmed his character, but I don't know what this means with respect to mafia. Do mafia have "mafia" names?

Believer faked a claim, posted some PMs saying he would fake a claim ahead of time. Does nothing to discount the fact that he faked a claim. Goal was for more people to roleclaim, but unless Mafia roles are different I don't know what good it does. Then again seems to have posted his real character. But let me ask you this:

There are 3 people that have not roleclaimed. Unless you believe all 3 are mafia (myself, Insanious, and gryffindor), one of which is Reenk, then a mafia has already roleclaimed. I have yet to see 'zomg NAME ==> MAFIA' so I'm befuddled as to why this bears any significance.

Chaoser jumped up on the activity after having it pointed out. Also
On February 17 2011 04:37 chaoser wrote:
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On February 17 2011 04:05 LunarDestiny wrote:
On February 17 2011 04:04 Believer wrote:
On February 17 2011 04:03 chaoser wrote:
On February 17 2011 03:58 Believer wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here, as other people also have. I think we need more clarity for the town to be able to sort out the scum from us all.


"
You are Renata

You are a veteran player who always contributes to the sake of the town, even if mafia. You disguise yourself well in the midst of players, so as to not make yourself vulnerable. Due to time constraints you have been playing less and less during the recent couple of months but are eager to squeeze out a victory.

Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
"


Town usually has a "you are town" a line before the victory condition...


Must've deleted that when I deleted the red text.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


Wow...so you deleted that line and then the red text but not the line about the victory conditions that's between the two...

Also, for all the people pushing this notion that we killed a mafia/mafia numbers are down, FoS on you. Until it's confirmed by kill count, i'm just going to read it as mafia trying to hide one of their members behind the idea that we killed one already so we're only looking for two, not three

WIFOM but FoS people who suggest that mafia numbers are down, so that when mafia numbers are shown to not be down there'll be an excuse to FoS them.

On February 18 2011 01:11 chaoser wrote:
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You are Greatermakaiultrawarsupergigayaseitriplekhaan (Yaseikhaan)

You’ve had a lot of usernames. A tradition you started, you change the first half (before ‘khaan) of your username every thousand posts. People gave up and just started calling you khaan. Currently, you are one of the moderators of the Gameroom.

You are Town
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.


I guess I should just c/p my PM then

Nothing in his role PM to suggest he's town to me, but I have no idea wtf I'm looking for. Only claimed because GMarshal rolechecked him.

Beefy187:
On February 17 2011 23:15 beefy187 wrote:
Vote: Gryffindor
Regardless of his alignment, he must die.


wtf?

GMarshal: Claimed to be rolechecker and seems to have verified that claim (lest him and Chaoser are both mafia).

Gryffindor: OMGUS
+ Show Spoiler +
lol made you mad


deconduo - What more is there to say. Has effectively taken the reigns of the town. Warned against lynching Misder, though calling out a bandwagon on a townie isn't exactly difficult if you know who the mafia are. Lynched Zerroth arguing not to lynch Coag (both now confirmed townie), voted for GGQ when Misder was up (both now confirmed townies), and lynched GGQ the next night along with the rest of the town. Has run a very tight ship - called out others on being wishy washy, never changed a vote.

Insanious - Who can say. Worst part is he's lived this long, so it's a complete gambit.

SiNiquity - Draw your own conclusions. I've included all my posts so you don't have to look for them.
+ Show Spoiler [SiNiquity posts] +

On February 13 2011 06:41 SiNiquity wrote:
Ironically, my character profile states I don't have much time for mafia anymore LOL so true. But anyway, I just caught up with the thread and there's a shit ton of Kita bashing for no apparent reason. You guys are dumb if you think he's mafia.


On February 13 2011 06:46 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 11 2011 19:12 Coagulation wrote:
SiNiquity
an average quality player. leaves a little bit to be desired as far as amount of posting he does.
not an inactive player by any stretch but hes not gonna be posting alot of shit to analyze.


No shit, because when I post I'm right. So no, I don't make a ton of haphazard posts saying "Well what about this itty bitty thing over here that someone said that makes me tingle in funny places? And it's not my SPIDEY SENSEEEE" because let's face it, I don't have a need to crap all over the thread like the rest of you.


On February 13 2011 07:59 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 13 2011 07:41 Coagulation wrote:
SiNiquity did you even post a single time during the first day?
No. 100% inactive. thats unacceptable. Get off your High horse and get your shit together.
i pushed zerroth and had him lynched.
you will be next if you dont start posting.


Yes mum. Sorry mum.
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On February 12 2011 10:06 Coagulation wrote:
No problem man. everyone makes mistakes.

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On February 12 2011 10:07 Coagulation wrote:
this thread makes my nose tickle.

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On February 12 2011 10:08 Coagulation wrote:
believer i close you sleepy so sleepy

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On February 12 2011 10:09 Coagulation wrote:
Ahh 4 Post in row nice see?

-_-


On February 14 2011 05:24 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 14 2011 04:37 GMarshal wrote:
EBWP:
##Vote: SiNiquity

I'd post a rolleyes smiley but even a thousand wouldn't cut it so:

http://i54.tinypic.com/28k6no3.gif


On February 14 2011 05:32 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 14 2011 02:00 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 13 2011 22:22 pevergreen wrote:
It had been a stressful few months, with strong roles here and having victory snatched from his grasp when pevergreen pushed for his lynch.
"There was no way he knew that I was the dark one." Kage thought, "It was just pure luck. I should have won that game. I'm never working with pever again."


Does this mean anything to anyone? I vaguely remember it.

Rings a bell, but it hard to say. The mind remembers remembers change the most, and another victory is just more same ol' same ol'.

But that's the past and this is the present.

Bumatlarge (The Spartan) is killed.
Ace (Tin Cow) kidnaps ??? (Kagemusha)
Ace (Tin Cow) is killed.

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 15:54 bumatlarge wrote:
If I must die, then I accept my fate for the good of the town. BRING IT.


Seems characteristic of a Spartan. What that actually means idk..

Kagemusha (can't link directly to user profiles if you don't have an account): http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?133113-Clean-Feature-5-and-6 but digging up the history of a forum poster is going to be impossible. How about you new guys lending a hand here?

Also I agree with the obvious - Bum and Ace dead leaves TL members as the obvious people to blame.


On February 14 2011 11:42 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 14 2011 10:49 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 14 2011 10:45 GGQ wrote:
vote GGQ

sorry, busy today


Self vote two days in a row?


Hmm. also on top of what you already said about misder his only post from the start of the day:

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On February 14 2011 02:35 Misder wrote:
Vote thefluffyone93

I'll be back later.


Lies.


On February 14 2011 11:49 SiNiquity wrote:
Vote: Misder


On February 15 2011 11:38 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 15 2011 11:08 kitaman27 wrote:
Thanks all for the birthday wishes!



On February 16 2011 14:03 SiNiquity wrote:
(1) SiNiquity: gryffindor
(10) GGQ: deconduo, Believer, GMarshal, Mr. Wiggles, chaoser, thefluffyone93, Coagulation, ilovejohn, beefy187, JBright
(1) deconduo: GGQ
Currently not voting: SiNiquity, aidnai
(1) GMarshal: Insanious

Bleh. GGQ's dead, but I don't think he's Mafia. WIFOM I guess but seems too easy.

Vote: chaoser - seems to have escaped all attention (as has Insanious with all of his 5 posts).


On February 16 2011 14:06 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 16 2011 14:02 GMarshal wrote:
ok at this point I guess GGQ is just going to persist in being useless, we may as well hang him

in reply to Insanious , I don't but when town all jumps on a single lynch and there is next to no protest along with the person being lynched happily spouting nonsense there's something wrong, at least in my opinion. I had some hope that maybe GGQ would be a little bit more helpful, but I guess not.

Also LD, I hadn't considered that as a viable defense method, mostly because it seems so strange.

Note that I still don't believe GGQ is scum, but since he seems to be hanging himself, I won't stop him.

The fact that we have pretty much decided a lynch does not mean that we should stop scumhunting however, we need to get cracking on that since as far as we know its 13 to 3 probably with a third party out there who may or may not be interested in helping town.

I really do not have time to do an analysis of anyone right now, however I will try to get one done during the night cycle today, but please for the love of god people don't get complacent because we have a set lynch for today.


There's still 7 hours (where most will be asleep so admittedly it would take a miracle at this point). If you don't think GGQ's scum, don't vote for him.


On February 16 2011 14:10 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 14 2011 15:43 chaoser wrote:
BACK! I will 100% read and analyze tomorrow, you can hold me to that, if I don't you can lynch me =p



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On February 15 2011 13:47 chaoser wrote:
Wow, finally caught up. Man, taking 5 modkills up the butt ain't so good at all. I was just wondering, why isn't aidnai being pressured more? Maybe it's just me reading too fast combined with a slight fever cause I have a cold but his claim against Ace and then Ace coming in to show just how wrong everything was seems really strange...Am I just not getting something? Either way FoS aidnai.



Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 04:47 chaoser wrote:
##Vote GGQ

Bandwagoning ain't a thang





My lynch list
  • Fluffy ~ you can't screw up a role claim like that and live. Sadly you're probably not GF even if you are mafia. Last words?
  • Insanious ~ 5 posts either apathetic townie or sneaky mafia, roll the dice.
  • deconduo ~ extremely active, extremely pro-town, and not a single mafia has been lynched. Bad luck or ulterior motive?
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 18 2011 01:32 GMT
#854
On February 18 2011 10:24 SiNiquity wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Facts

Alive: 11 10/30
  1. deconduo
  2. SiNiquity
  3. JBright ~ Counterclaimed Believer's character claim.
  4. gryffindor
  5. Believer ~ Faked a claim. Posts PMs from a dead player (guessing these are true since Coag hasn't gone off going "OMGOMGOMG" yet).
  6. Insanious ~ Has 5 posts
  7. thefluffyone93 ~ Omitted "You are Town" from character claim.
  8. Beefy187
  9. chaoser
  10. GMarshal
  11. ilovejonn mod-killed idk why he's on the list


At this rate though we're effectively at LyLo under worst case scenario (barring some random element making a kill last night in place of a mafia kill). If there's a 3rd party that adds KP then we're effectively screwed (unless 1 mafia is already dead, in which case who cares since it's effectively the same scenario), so I'm running under the assumption that there's not. Furthermore, if there were a 3rd party I'd be betting it on darmousseh based on:

On February 18 2011 07:28 darmousseh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 07:23 kitaman27 wrote:
Why
You are Andres.

You have a Beautiful Mind, but you want to share your gift with others! Once per day you must post a cryptic message completely void of meaning. You and pevergreen form the feared mentally unstable scum fighting duo!

You are Town
Victory condition: You win when you can convince someone of a secret communist plot buried in old newspaper clippings.



Wouldn't the part
Show nested quote +
Victory condition: You win when you can convince someone of a secret communist plot buried in old newspaper clippings.
be in red?



10 players (7 town, 3 mafia) --> mislynch
9 players (6 town, 3 mafia) --> 2 night kills
7 players (4 town, 3 mafia) --> correct lynch!
6 players (4 town, 2 mafia) --> 1 night kill
5 players (3 town, 2 mafia) --> correct lynch!
4 players (3 town, 1 mafia) --> 2 night kills (worst case; 1 nk if gf dead).
2 players --> (1 town, 1 mafia) mafia wins

If we lynch the grandfather then we have one more night, but we're really pushing our luck. However, getting it right here is huge as it will drop mafia to 1 KP. And if we got GF here then we're golden.

Analysis

Fluffy seems to be the obvious choice. It's practically impossible to omit something from the middle of the PM when copying / pasting. Furthermore said "... when all town forces are eliminated."

JBright effectively confirmed his character, but I don't know what this means with respect to mafia. Do mafia have "mafia" names?

Believer faked a claim, posted some PMs saying he would fake a claim ahead of time. Does nothing to discount the fact that he faked a claim. Goal was for more people to roleclaim, but unless Mafia roles are different I don't know what good it does. Then again seems to have posted his real character. But let me ask you this:

There are 3 people that have not roleclaimed. Unless you believe all 3 are mafia (myself, Insanious, and gryffindor), one of which is Reenk, then a mafia has already roleclaimed. I have yet to see 'zomg NAME ==> MAFIA' so I'm befuddled as to why this bears any significance.

Chaoser jumped up on the activity after having it pointed out. Also
On February 17 2011 04:37 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 04:05 LunarDestiny wrote:
On February 17 2011 04:04 Believer wrote:
On February 17 2011 04:03 chaoser wrote:
On February 17 2011 03:58 Believer wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here, as other people also have. I think we need more clarity for the town to be able to sort out the scum from us all.


"
You are Renata

You are a veteran player who always contributes to the sake of the town, even if mafia. You disguise yourself well in the midst of players, so as to not make yourself vulnerable. Due to time constraints you have been playing less and less during the recent couple of months but are eager to squeeze out a victory.

Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
"


Town usually has a "you are town" a line before the victory condition...


Must've deleted that when I deleted the red text.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


Wow...so you deleted that line and then the red text but not the line about the victory conditions that's between the two...

Also, for all the people pushing this notion that we killed a mafia/mafia numbers are down, FoS on you. Until it's confirmed by kill count, i'm just going to read it as mafia trying to hide one of their members behind the idea that we killed one already so we're only looking for two, not three

WIFOM but FoS people who suggest that mafia numbers are down, so that when mafia numbers are shown to not be down there'll be an excuse to FoS them.

On February 18 2011 01:11 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
You are Greatermakaiultrawarsupergigayaseitriplekhaan (Yaseikhaan)

You’ve had a lot of usernames. A tradition you started, you change the first half (before ‘khaan) of your username every thousand posts. People gave up and just started calling you khaan. Currently, you are one of the moderators of the Gameroom.

You are Town
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.


I guess I should just c/p my PM then

Nothing in his role PM to suggest he's town to me, but I have no idea wtf I'm looking for. Only claimed because GMarshal rolechecked him.

Beefy187:
On February 17 2011 23:15 beefy187 wrote:
Vote: Gryffindor
Regardless of his alignment, he must die.


wtf?

GMarshal: Claimed to be rolechecker and seems to have verified that claim (lest him and Chaoser are both mafia).

Gryffindor: OMGUS
+ Show Spoiler +
lol made you mad


deconduo - What more is there to say. Has effectively taken the reigns of the town. Warned against lynching Misder, though calling out a bandwagon on a townie isn't exactly difficult if you know who the mafia are. Lynched Zerroth arguing not to lynch Coag (both now confirmed townie), voted for GGQ when Misder was up (both now confirmed townies), and lynched GGQ the next night along with the rest of the town. Has run a very tight ship - called out others on being wishy washy, never changed a vote.

Insanious - Who can say. Worst part is he's lived this long, so it's a complete gambit.

SiNiquity - Draw your own conclusions. I've included all my posts so you don't have to look for them.
+ Show Spoiler [SiNiquity posts] +

On February 13 2011 06:41 SiNiquity wrote:
Ironically, my character profile states I don't have much time for mafia anymore LOL so true. But anyway, I just caught up with the thread and there's a shit ton of Kita bashing for no apparent reason. You guys are dumb if you think he's mafia.


On February 13 2011 06:46 SiNiquity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 19:12 Coagulation wrote:
SiNiquity
an average quality player. leaves a little bit to be desired as far as amount of posting he does.
not an inactive player by any stretch but hes not gonna be posting alot of shit to analyze.


No shit, because when I post I'm right. So no, I don't make a ton of haphazard posts saying "Well what about this itty bitty thing over here that someone said that makes me tingle in funny places? And it's not my SPIDEY SENSEEEE" because let's face it, I don't have a need to crap all over the thread like the rest of you.


On February 13 2011 07:59 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 13 2011 07:41 Coagulation wrote:
SiNiquity did you even post a single time during the first day?
No. 100% inactive. thats unacceptable. Get off your High horse and get your shit together.
i pushed zerroth and had him lynched.
you will be next if you dont start posting.


Yes mum. Sorry mum.
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On February 12 2011 10:06 Coagulation wrote:
No problem man. everyone makes mistakes.

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On February 12 2011 10:07 Coagulation wrote:
this thread makes my nose tickle.

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On February 12 2011 10:08 Coagulation wrote:
believer i close you sleepy so sleepy

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On February 12 2011 10:09 Coagulation wrote:
Ahh 4 Post in row nice see?

-_-


On February 14 2011 05:24 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 14 2011 04:37 GMarshal wrote:
EBWP:
##Vote: SiNiquity

I'd post a rolleyes smiley but even a thousand wouldn't cut it so:

http://i54.tinypic.com/28k6no3.gif


On February 14 2011 05:32 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 14 2011 02:00 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 13 2011 22:22 pevergreen wrote:
It had been a stressful few months, with strong roles here and having victory snatched from his grasp when pevergreen pushed for his lynch.
"There was no way he knew that I was the dark one." Kage thought, "It was just pure luck. I should have won that game. I'm never working with pever again."


Does this mean anything to anyone? I vaguely remember it.

Rings a bell, but it hard to say. The mind remembers remembers change the most, and another victory is just more same ol' same ol'.

But that's the past and this is the present.

Bumatlarge (The Spartan) is killed.
Ace (Tin Cow) kidnaps ??? (Kagemusha)
Ace (Tin Cow) is killed.

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On February 13 2011 15:54 bumatlarge wrote:
If I must die, then I accept my fate for the good of the town. BRING IT.


Seems characteristic of a Spartan. What that actually means idk..

Kagemusha (can't link directly to user profiles if you don't have an account): http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?133113-Clean-Feature-5-and-6 but digging up the history of a forum poster is going to be impossible. How about you new guys lending a hand here?

Also I agree with the obvious - Bum and Ace dead leaves TL members as the obvious people to blame.


On February 14 2011 11:42 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 14 2011 10:49 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 14 2011 10:45 GGQ wrote:
vote GGQ

sorry, busy today


Self vote two days in a row?


Hmm. also on top of what you already said about misder his only post from the start of the day:

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On February 14 2011 02:35 Misder wrote:
Vote thefluffyone93

I'll be back later.


Lies.


On February 14 2011 11:49 SiNiquity wrote:
Vote: Misder


On February 15 2011 11:38 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 15 2011 11:08 kitaman27 wrote:
Thanks all for the birthday wishes!



On February 16 2011 14:03 SiNiquity wrote:
(1) SiNiquity: gryffindor
(10) GGQ: deconduo, Believer, GMarshal, Mr. Wiggles, chaoser, thefluffyone93, Coagulation, ilovejohn, beefy187, JBright
(1) deconduo: GGQ
Currently not voting: SiNiquity, aidnai
(1) GMarshal: Insanious

Bleh. GGQ's dead, but I don't think he's Mafia. WIFOM I guess but seems too easy.

Vote: chaoser - seems to have escaped all attention (as has Insanious with all of his 5 posts).


On February 16 2011 14:06 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 16 2011 14:02 GMarshal wrote:
ok at this point I guess GGQ is just going to persist in being useless, we may as well hang him

in reply to Insanious , I don't but when town all jumps on a single lynch and there is next to no protest along with the person being lynched happily spouting nonsense there's something wrong, at least in my opinion. I had some hope that maybe GGQ would be a little bit more helpful, but I guess not.

Also LD, I hadn't considered that as a viable defense method, mostly because it seems so strange.

Note that I still don't believe GGQ is scum, but since he seems to be hanging himself, I won't stop him.

The fact that we have pretty much decided a lynch does not mean that we should stop scumhunting however, we need to get cracking on that since as far as we know its 13 to 3 probably with a third party out there who may or may not be interested in helping town.

I really do not have time to do an analysis of anyone right now, however I will try to get one done during the night cycle today, but please for the love of god people don't get complacent because we have a set lynch for today.


There's still 7 hours (where most will be asleep so admittedly it would take a miracle at this point). If you don't think GGQ's scum, don't vote for him.


On February 16 2011 14:10 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 14 2011 15:43 chaoser wrote:
BACK! I will 100% read and analyze tomorrow, you can hold me to that, if I don't you can lynch me =p



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On February 15 2011 13:47 chaoser wrote:
Wow, finally caught up. Man, taking 5 modkills up the butt ain't so good at all. I was just wondering, why isn't aidnai being pressured more? Maybe it's just me reading too fast combined with a slight fever cause I have a cold but his claim against Ace and then Ace coming in to show just how wrong everything was seems really strange...Am I just not getting something? Either way FoS aidnai.



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On February 16 2011 04:47 chaoser wrote:
##Vote GGQ

Bandwagoning ain't a thang





My lynch list
  • Fluffy ~ you can't screw up a role claim like that and live. Sadly you're probably not GF even if you are mafia. Last words?
  • Insanious ~ 5 posts either apathetic townie or sneaky mafia, roll the dice.
  • deconduo ~ extremely active, extremely pro-town, and not a single mafia has been lynched. Bad luck or ulterior motive?


I support this message. Would like to see a few votes start to get cast on fluffy relatively soon though.

On February 17 2011 23:55 Believer wrote:
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For reference, this is my PM convo with coagulation about the matter.
From: Coagulation [ 3980 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Fake
Date: 2/15/11 06:13
ok but i gotta warn you
you might be in trouble if people try to enforce LAL (lynch all liars) policy lynch.
tl.net mafia is big on LAL policy.
just heads up. if anyone starts pushing lal its probably mafia tho.

Original Message From Believer:
According to the rules of this game I can only reveal my name in PM, the rest has to be via the thread.

I am Beirut.

I am currently working the Org forums for a true townie character that would propably feature.

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Original Message From Coagulation:
first tell me what your real role is.

second tell me what your gonna fake claim.
so i know your not playing any tricks.
after that i will back you up.

Original Message From Believer:
I'm thinking about faking a role claim to draw out a sure townie. Will you back me on this if they turn on me once I am revealed not to be that person?



Any particular reason you chose coag to confide in? Would have though maybe one of the .org folks you were more familiar with might the logical choice.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 18 2011 01:36 GMT
#855
lets get it started then

##Vote: thefluffyone93

anyone have any ideas as to what to do with why's puzzle? I seem to be stuck, there are 7 words left and I have 14 numbers to play with so I assume the two are related, I suspect that each number is a letter in a word and that they are either matches for the cypher or they spell out something useful
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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 18 2011 01:41 GMT
#856
On February 18 2011 10:32 kitaman27 wrote:
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On February 18 2011 10:24 SiNiquity wrote:
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Facts

Alive: 11 10/30
  1. deconduo
  2. SiNiquity
  3. JBright ~ Counterclaimed Believer's character claim.
  4. gryffindor
  5. Believer ~ Faked a claim. Posts PMs from a dead player (guessing these are true since Coag hasn't gone off going "OMGOMGOMG" yet).
  6. Insanious ~ Has 5 posts
  7. thefluffyone93 ~ Omitted "You are Town" from character claim.
  8. Beefy187
  9. chaoser
  10. GMarshal
  11. ilovejonn mod-killed idk why he's on the list


At this rate though we're effectively at LyLo under worst case scenario (barring some random element making a kill last night in place of a mafia kill). If there's a 3rd party that adds KP then we're effectively screwed (unless 1 mafia is already dead, in which case who cares since it's effectively the same scenario), so I'm running under the assumption that there's not. Furthermore, if there were a 3rd party I'd be betting it on darmousseh based on:

On February 18 2011 07:28 darmousseh wrote:
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On February 18 2011 07:23 kitaman27 wrote:
Why
You are Andres.

You have a Beautiful Mind, but you want to share your gift with others! Once per day you must post a cryptic message completely void of meaning. You and pevergreen form the feared mentally unstable scum fighting duo!

You are Town
Victory condition: You win when you can convince someone of a secret communist plot buried in old newspaper clippings.



Wouldn't the part
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Victory condition: You win when you can convince someone of a secret communist plot buried in old newspaper clippings.
be in red?



10 players (7 town, 3 mafia) --> mislynch
9 players (6 town, 3 mafia) --> 2 night kills
7 players (4 town, 3 mafia) --> correct lynch!
6 players (4 town, 2 mafia) --> 1 night kill
5 players (3 town, 2 mafia) --> correct lynch!
4 players (3 town, 1 mafia) --> 2 night kills (worst case; 1 nk if gf dead).
2 players --> (1 town, 1 mafia) mafia wins

If we lynch the grandfather then we have one more night, but we're really pushing our luck. However, getting it right here is huge as it will drop mafia to 1 KP. And if we got GF here then we're golden.

Analysis

Fluffy seems to be the obvious choice. It's practically impossible to omit something from the middle of the PM when copying / pasting. Furthermore said "... when all town forces are eliminated."

JBright effectively confirmed his character, but I don't know what this means with respect to mafia. Do mafia have "mafia" names?

Believer faked a claim, posted some PMs saying he would fake a claim ahead of time. Does nothing to discount the fact that he faked a claim. Goal was for more people to roleclaim, but unless Mafia roles are different I don't know what good it does. Then again seems to have posted his real character. But let me ask you this:

There are 3 people that have not roleclaimed. Unless you believe all 3 are mafia (myself, Insanious, and gryffindor), one of which is Reenk, then a mafia has already roleclaimed. I have yet to see 'zomg NAME ==> MAFIA' so I'm befuddled as to why this bears any significance.

Chaoser jumped up on the activity after having it pointed out. Also
On February 17 2011 04:37 chaoser wrote:
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On February 17 2011 04:05 LunarDestiny wrote:
On February 17 2011 04:04 Believer wrote:
On February 17 2011 04:03 chaoser wrote:
On February 17 2011 03:58 Believer wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here, as other people also have. I think we need more clarity for the town to be able to sort out the scum from us all.


"
You are Renata

You are a veteran player who always contributes to the sake of the town, even if mafia. You disguise yourself well in the midst of players, so as to not make yourself vulnerable. Due to time constraints you have been playing less and less during the recent couple of months but are eager to squeeze out a victory.

Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
"


Town usually has a "you are town" a line before the victory condition...


Must've deleted that when I deleted the red text.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


Wow...so you deleted that line and then the red text but not the line about the victory conditions that's between the two...

Also, for all the people pushing this notion that we killed a mafia/mafia numbers are down, FoS on you. Until it's confirmed by kill count, i'm just going to read it as mafia trying to hide one of their members behind the idea that we killed one already so we're only looking for two, not three

WIFOM but FoS people who suggest that mafia numbers are down, so that when mafia numbers are shown to not be down there'll be an excuse to FoS them.

On February 18 2011 01:11 chaoser wrote:
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You are Greatermakaiultrawarsupergigayaseitriplekhaan (Yaseikhaan)

You’ve had a lot of usernames. A tradition you started, you change the first half (before ‘khaan) of your username every thousand posts. People gave up and just started calling you khaan. Currently, you are one of the moderators of the Gameroom.

You are Town
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.


I guess I should just c/p my PM then

Nothing in his role PM to suggest he's town to me, but I have no idea wtf I'm looking for. Only claimed because GMarshal rolechecked him.

Beefy187:
On February 17 2011 23:15 beefy187 wrote:
Vote: Gryffindor
Regardless of his alignment, he must die.


wtf?

GMarshal: Claimed to be rolechecker and seems to have verified that claim (lest him and Chaoser are both mafia).

Gryffindor: OMGUS
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lol made you mad


deconduo - What more is there to say. Has effectively taken the reigns of the town. Warned against lynching Misder, though calling out a bandwagon on a townie isn't exactly difficult if you know who the mafia are. Lynched Zerroth arguing not to lynch Coag (both now confirmed townie), voted for GGQ when Misder was up (both now confirmed townies), and lynched GGQ the next night along with the rest of the town. Has run a very tight ship - called out others on being wishy washy, never changed a vote.

Insanious - Who can say. Worst part is he's lived this long, so it's a complete gambit.

SiNiquity - Draw your own conclusions. I've included all my posts so you don't have to look for them.
+ Show Spoiler [SiNiquity posts] +

On February 13 2011 06:41 SiNiquity wrote:
Ironically, my character profile states I don't have much time for mafia anymore LOL so true. But anyway, I just caught up with the thread and there's a shit ton of Kita bashing for no apparent reason. You guys are dumb if you think he's mafia.


On February 13 2011 06:46 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 11 2011 19:12 Coagulation wrote:
SiNiquity
an average quality player. leaves a little bit to be desired as far as amount of posting he does.
not an inactive player by any stretch but hes not gonna be posting alot of shit to analyze.


No shit, because when I post I'm right. So no, I don't make a ton of haphazard posts saying "Well what about this itty bitty thing over here that someone said that makes me tingle in funny places? And it's not my SPIDEY SENSEEEE" because let's face it, I don't have a need to crap all over the thread like the rest of you.


On February 13 2011 07:59 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 13 2011 07:41 Coagulation wrote:
SiNiquity did you even post a single time during the first day?
No. 100% inactive. thats unacceptable. Get off your High horse and get your shit together.
i pushed zerroth and had him lynched.
you will be next if you dont start posting.


Yes mum. Sorry mum.
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On February 12 2011 10:06 Coagulation wrote:
No problem man. everyone makes mistakes.

Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 10:07 Coagulation wrote:
this thread makes my nose tickle.

Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 10:08 Coagulation wrote:
believer i close you sleepy so sleepy

Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 10:09 Coagulation wrote:
Ahh 4 Post in row nice see?

-_-


On February 14 2011 05:24 SiNiquity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 04:37 GMarshal wrote:
EBWP:
##Vote: SiNiquity

I'd post a rolleyes smiley but even a thousand wouldn't cut it so:

http://i54.tinypic.com/28k6no3.gif


On February 14 2011 05:32 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 14 2011 02:00 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 13 2011 22:22 pevergreen wrote:
It had been a stressful few months, with strong roles here and having victory snatched from his grasp when pevergreen pushed for his lynch.
"There was no way he knew that I was the dark one." Kage thought, "It was just pure luck. I should have won that game. I'm never working with pever again."


Does this mean anything to anyone? I vaguely remember it.

Rings a bell, but it hard to say. The mind remembers remembers change the most, and another victory is just more same ol' same ol'.

But that's the past and this is the present.

Bumatlarge (The Spartan) is killed.
Ace (Tin Cow) kidnaps ??? (Kagemusha)
Ace (Tin Cow) is killed.

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 15:54 bumatlarge wrote:
If I must die, then I accept my fate for the good of the town. BRING IT.


Seems characteristic of a Spartan. What that actually means idk..

Kagemusha (can't link directly to user profiles if you don't have an account): http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?133113-Clean-Feature-5-and-6 but digging up the history of a forum poster is going to be impossible. How about you new guys lending a hand here?

Also I agree with the obvious - Bum and Ace dead leaves TL members as the obvious people to blame.


On February 14 2011 11:42 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 14 2011 10:49 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 14 2011 10:45 GGQ wrote:
vote GGQ

sorry, busy today


Self vote two days in a row?


Hmm. also on top of what you already said about misder his only post from the start of the day:

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On February 14 2011 02:35 Misder wrote:
Vote thefluffyone93

I'll be back later.


Lies.


On February 14 2011 11:49 SiNiquity wrote:
Vote: Misder


On February 15 2011 11:38 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 15 2011 11:08 kitaman27 wrote:
Thanks all for the birthday wishes!



On February 16 2011 14:03 SiNiquity wrote:
(1) SiNiquity: gryffindor
(10) GGQ: deconduo, Believer, GMarshal, Mr. Wiggles, chaoser, thefluffyone93, Coagulation, ilovejohn, beefy187, JBright
(1) deconduo: GGQ
Currently not voting: SiNiquity, aidnai
(1) GMarshal: Insanious

Bleh. GGQ's dead, but I don't think he's Mafia. WIFOM I guess but seems too easy.

Vote: chaoser - seems to have escaped all attention (as has Insanious with all of his 5 posts).


On February 16 2011 14:06 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 16 2011 14:02 GMarshal wrote:
ok at this point I guess GGQ is just going to persist in being useless, we may as well hang him

in reply to Insanious , I don't but when town all jumps on a single lynch and there is next to no protest along with the person being lynched happily spouting nonsense there's something wrong, at least in my opinion. I had some hope that maybe GGQ would be a little bit more helpful, but I guess not.

Also LD, I hadn't considered that as a viable defense method, mostly because it seems so strange.

Note that I still don't believe GGQ is scum, but since he seems to be hanging himself, I won't stop him.

The fact that we have pretty much decided a lynch does not mean that we should stop scumhunting however, we need to get cracking on that since as far as we know its 13 to 3 probably with a third party out there who may or may not be interested in helping town.

I really do not have time to do an analysis of anyone right now, however I will try to get one done during the night cycle today, but please for the love of god people don't get complacent because we have a set lynch for today.


There's still 7 hours (where most will be asleep so admittedly it would take a miracle at this point). If you don't think GGQ's scum, don't vote for him.


On February 16 2011 14:10 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 14 2011 15:43 chaoser wrote:
BACK! I will 100% read and analyze tomorrow, you can hold me to that, if I don't you can lynch me =p



Show nested quote +
On February 15 2011 13:47 chaoser wrote:
Wow, finally caught up. Man, taking 5 modkills up the butt ain't so good at all. I was just wondering, why isn't aidnai being pressured more? Maybe it's just me reading too fast combined with a slight fever cause I have a cold but his claim against Ace and then Ace coming in to show just how wrong everything was seems really strange...Am I just not getting something? Either way FoS aidnai.



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On February 16 2011 04:47 chaoser wrote:
##Vote GGQ

Bandwagoning ain't a thang





My lynch list
  • Fluffy ~ you can't screw up a role claim like that and live. Sadly you're probably not GF even if you are mafia. Last words?
  • Insanious ~ 5 posts either apathetic townie or sneaky mafia, roll the dice.
  • deconduo ~ extremely active, extremely pro-town, and not a single mafia has been lynched. Bad luck or ulterior motive?


I support this message. Would like to see a few votes start to get cast on fluffy relatively soon though.

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On February 17 2011 23:55 Believer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
For reference, this is my PM convo with coagulation about the matter.
From: Coagulation [ 3980 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Fake
Date: 2/15/11 06:13
ok but i gotta warn you
you might be in trouble if people try to enforce LAL (lynch all liars) policy lynch.
tl.net mafia is big on LAL policy.
just heads up. if anyone starts pushing lal its probably mafia tho.

Original Message From Believer:
According to the rules of this game I can only reveal my name in PM, the rest has to be via the thread.

I am Beirut.

I am currently working the Org forums for a true townie character that would propably feature.

Hide nested quote -
Original Message From Coagulation:
first tell me what your real role is.

second tell me what your gonna fake claim.
so i know your not playing any tricks.
after that i will back you up.

Original Message From Believer:
I'm thinking about faking a role claim to draw out a sure townie. Will you back me on this if they turn on me once I am revealed not to be that person?



Any particular reason you chose coag to confide in? Would have though maybe one of the .org folks you were more familiar with might the logical choice.


obvious my extreme pro town scum hunting skills.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 18 2011 01:41 GMT
#857
On February 18 2011 10:36 GMarshal wrote:
lets get it started then

##Vote: thefluffyone93

anyone have any ideas as to what to do with why's puzzle? I seem to be stuck, there are 7 words left and I have 14 numbers to play with so I assume the two are related, I suspect that each number is a letter in a word and that they are either matches for the cypher or they spell out something useful


The puzzle is probably a distraction or part of his character. Time to snuff out the mafia. I wish I was still alive :p
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 18 2011 01:43 GMT
#858
On February 18 2011 10:36 GMarshal wrote:
anyone have any ideas as to what to do with why's puzzle? I seem to be stuck, there are 7 words left and I have 14 numbers to play with so I assume the two are related, I suspect that each number is a letter in a word and that they are either matches for the cypher or they spell out something useful


Have you tried converting the numbers from base-8?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
thefluffyone93
Profile Joined February 2011
26 Posts
February 18 2011 01:44 GMT
#859
Fluffy ~ you can't screw up a role claim like that and live. Sadly you're probably not GF even if you are mafia. Last words?


I said it once, I'll say it again: It is quite hard to use a laptop without a mouse when highlighting text.
Especially if your running on 3 hours of sleep.
But it seems obvious that the townies are being played for the fools they are.
I don't even know any of your play styles, so how would I know who was a good player?
Vote: Gryffindor

Your so determined to get rid of me.
Possibly because it will let you live another day?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 18 2011 01:47 GMT
#860
On February 18 2011 10:44 thefluffyone93 wrote:
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Fluffy ~ you can't screw up a role claim like that and live. Sadly you're probably not GF even if you are mafia. Last words?


I said it once, I'll say it again: It is quite hard to use a laptop without a mouse when highlighting text.
Especially if your running on 3 hours of sleep.
But it seems obvious that the townies are being played for the fools they are.


Is there an explanation for miswording the town victory condition as well?

Does the fact that TosaInu's "trusted friend" killed him mean anything or was it just flavor text, as with the rest of the night posts.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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