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On January 29 2011 01:09 darmousseh wrote:
I will still be voting for nemesis as the clues seem very persuasive. Unless someone comes up with something better in the next 10 hours. I'm out of luck on finding clues.
I disagree with the conclusions made by Bumatlarge in his analysis of Nemesis, so this still feels like a clue lynch.
I'm going to be traveling a good deal of today, but I'll try to get in better candidate for lynch. The problem for me right now is that I'm not convinced that RoL or Nemesis are scum. Nemesis' play is very similar to his normal town, which I admit is a little scummy. RoL looks more scummy because he's not contributing a ton, but as has been pointed out this could very easily be an apathetic townie, and I'm willing to leave him alone for now. The person who looks the most scummy right now is actually Beneather [facepalm, I know]. I'll explain why later, but I don't want to push for the lynch of my BG, at least not yet.
Shortened version:
FoS RoL, but I'm not willing to lynch him yet.
Nemesis' lynch is based mostly off of clues, something I disagree with. Looking at his posts make me think he's town, but I could obviously be wrong.
FoS Beneather, but not willing to lynch a BG without a very strong case.
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On January 29 2011 03:19 BrownBear wrote:And it's because you're all too damn adorable 
^^Flattery. Obv scum here.
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On January 29 2011 03:24 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2011 03:22 Kavdragon wrote:On January 29 2011 03:19 BrownBear wrote:And it's because you're all too damn adorable ^^Flattery. Obv scum here. Oh shit, I've been found out! Whatever will I do? 
Give me you're Goliath icon, and I'll forget i ever saw that post.
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Just a reminder, the "all" function will disappear soon, so if you like searching through everything like me, you'll probably want to save the page in the near future.
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Found a really quick connection on my commute, just wanted to say I still think that Zergling is scum, but his likly modkill throws a wrench in the mix. I think those voting RoL should vote Zerling, so that if he is modkilled, Nemesis is the back up.
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Wait. The night post is going to be two hours late, does this mean that we have two more hours on this lynch?
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On January 29 2011 12:11 zerroth wrote:
Oh sry about inactivity. I was busy with school. Will read asap and post something.
On January 29 2011 11:52 d3_crescentia wrote:
Ugh.
I've been sick for the past few days. Food poisoning I think.
How much time do we have? I bought the case on Nemesis a few pages back so I'll be voting him. At any rate I'll vote to stay in so town doesn't get dicked over too hard but if you guys can find another sub I'm totally willing to step out.
I'm calling on our vig to hit one of these two tonight. This is totally unacceptable play.
Mafia strategy is to fit in with the town. The town has a LOT of inactive players, so it makes sense for them to hid there...right until they are going to be mod killed.
Medics, use the usual wifom of protecting either active townies or BG's. I suggest GMarshal over Beneather, but take your own advice and wifom the crap out of the mafia with it.
DT's: I don't think that checking RoL is a particularly good idea at this point, as he would be a likely candidate for GF. We can analyse people who post, but we can't analyse those who don't post a lot. These check will both root out mafia lurkers, and encourage them to stop lurking. Examples of who you might check being Deconduo, Kenpachi, SiNiquity.
Vets do whatever you can to temp mafia into hitting you.
I will be checking the number of mafia tonight. We will gain no information about whether we got the lynch right or wrong because of the mod-kills, but if we don't check tonight, we won't know about tomorrow when that comes.
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We won't know if he flips red. We can only know if he flips green. (If there are 5 mafia left tonight)
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Oh lol, I forgot about the mason.
mason should recruit whoever HE thinks is most town. Do NOT let the recruitees have any say in the matter. You know you are town, you don't know they are town. Don't let a possible scum influence you into inviting more possible scum. Also, if possible, don't tell the recruitee who you will be recruiting. If a mafia was recruited, then they could kill both you and your pick, then start recruiting others claiming to have recruited RoL and meapak or something.
Long story short, Keep your partner in the dark about the decisions you make.
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No killers, so I'd assume no clue. Unless...Wait.
Mayor doesn't get clues left because of the first day lynch, right? Or any other lynches?
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On January 29 2011 13:14 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2011 13:12 Kavdragon wrote:
Oh lol, I forgot about the mason.
mason should recruit whoever HE thinks is most town. Do NOT let the recruitees have any say in the matter. You know you are town, you don't know they are town. Don't let a possible scum influence you into inviting more possible scum. Also, if possible, don't tell the recruitee who you will be recruiting. If a mafia was recruited, then they could kill both you and your pick, then start recruiting others claiming to have recruited RoL and meapak or something.
Long story short, Keep your partner in the dark about the decisions you make. im sure he already recruited you.
I won't comment on whether that's right or not. Wifom THAT.
In any case, I think that it's a good plan for the mason. I'm not going to comment too much cause I have a bias that makes me not see the best path in this case, but do people think it is a Good idea for mason to contact me, or a Bad idea?
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Yes, I'm sending in the request for mafia count now.
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On January 29 2011 16:24 Barundar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 05:00 Eti307 wrote:
Sure the game is about analyzing, but before the first kills/night actions it's hard to actually analyse anything imo. There will be much more discussion to do once the first night is over Show nested quote +On January 28 2011 23:24 Eti307 wrote:
Sorry guys if I didn't post enough in the last 2days. A lot has been going on in rl and between work and that I didn't have the time to closely follow this thread.
That said, I will be much more active this evening/weekend ^I'm really looking forward to some improvements.
Ugh. Wonder how I missed this. Add him to my list of "Please Vig hit".
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I never asked for them to claim. There's no real reason for them to do that. I mean, there's no way for us to tell if they are scum or not, so what's the point? I just want those people dead, and if the mafia want to oblige, then great. Just don't come claiming after you've done it.
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EBWODP:
Don't come claiming, unless of course, you are mafia. In that case, please, by all means, claim mafia to us.
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On January 29 2011 17:04 LunarDestiny wrote:
To follow up, if you want a hit list. That list should be containing only one person who many agrees that the person is mafia and should be hit. This way, it limits bullshit vig claim and also acts as a pseudo double lynch if that person is hit.
Grr. I shouldn't try to respond when I'm tired, but here I go anyways, with part three of the response:
I very much disagree with having vigs hit people who the town all thinks are scum. That makes it possible for the mafia to influence the decision. I say shoot lurkers with vig because it get rid of the mafia shield that is town bureaucracy. This pressures scum much more than a double lynch.
Also, the town can't really discuss which lurker should be shot, cause by definision, there's very little to analyse. Lurkers are bad news for town discussion, so leave them to the vigs to take care of. Like I said, town can catch scum slips, but not if people aren't talking. If we can't catch a slip from the lurkers, chances are they won't get lynched.
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Can someone explain to me why having the Vig claim before, or after is useful? Why does he need to claim at all?
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On January 30 2011 04:14 darmousseh wrote:
I think after this night we will get a ton more information. Serial killers have to kill so if we didn't lynch the SK yesterday, then there will be more clues pointing towards that person and if we did lynch the SK then yay town.
No, mods said that SK will NOT get clues pointing to them every night. It would be really unfair if they did...
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On January 29 2011 21:27 d3_crescentia wrote:
Thanks for the analysis LD. I really hope you read the other post where I said I've been SICK with some sort of bizarre disease that causes BLOOD to erupt from my BODILY ORIFICES, but I guess I left that detail out so as to not subject yourselves to the uncomfortable facts of my life.
Uh....Sick? Let's look at the time line of your posts, shall we?
+ Show Spoiler +Call for replacements: On January 25 2011 03:27 LSB wrote:
We are looking for replacements. Please PM LSB if you are interested in playing Two hours later, you are put in: (So you obviously are active then) On January 25 2011 05:22 LSB wrote:
d3_crescentia will be replacing Pandain.
Deconduo will be replacing DoctorHelvetica
Everyone say HI D3! and HI Deconduo! You say hi 2 minutes later: On January 25 2011 05:24 d3_crescentia wrote:
I am obviously superior to Pandain.
Time to read through the thread. 18 minutes later you post: (more activity) On January 25 2011 05:42 d3_crescentia wrote:
It's a shame. My profile is obviously superior. Roughly 4 hours after being sloted in, you post this. On January 25 2011 09:11 d3_crescentia wrote:
I'd vote for RoL if he didn't seem so lazy. Some good insight on the mayor role.
I don't have a strong opinion of Kavdragon just yet, as his playstyle generally looks town.
For the most part we need to ignore clues and focus on the people themselves.
@darmousseh all those situations lead into a bunch of WIFOM. I'll be watching you for better posts. Aaaaaand....then you disapear with no warning, and come back OVER FOUR DAYS later to tell us that you got sick. How the hell did you not get mod killed? On January 29 2011 11:52 d3_crescentia wrote:
Ugh.
I've been sick for the past few days. Food poisoning I think.
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Looking at this, it is obvious that you were active when you were put in. Why would you come in if you were coming down with some sickness? You managed to stop by and vote the day after you stopped posting,+ Show Spoiler +On January 26 2011 04:15 d3_crescentia wrote:
##vote RebirthOfLegenD
Skipping that - the RoL vote. I'm convinced he was town, but unfortunately we have no way to confirm that with 3 modkills. I'm willing to bet that the mafia are going to be likely to stick around for at least the first vote before dying to activity requirements. The people that immediately come under suspicion on that list are Beneather, kitaman27, Eti307. Not sure if I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Darmousseh right now either considering I think he has weak posting.
I agree that RoL was likely town because of how close the vote was, and how easy it would have been to tip it in favor of a powerful player. I also agree that we (hopefully) won't know if he was or not, because of the mod kills. ("Hopefully" because the only way we can confirm that he is town is if no mafia were killed, and I'd much rather have a dead mafia then an unconfirmed RoL). I think that you are in no position to be calling people out on weak posting.
I also happen to think that if we shoot Nemesis we should be able to start figuring things out on HIS vote list as well after night census. At this point in time we need as much information as we can get.
No. Having a vig shoot nemesis is a terrible idea. He's posting, so we can see what he's doing, and analyse him and make the decision ourselves. We can't really do this with lurkers like you.
The call for a vig to hit you stands. I'm obviously not in charge of them, but I hope I've made my arguments clear enough for them to understand, and take action.
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