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Beneather
Canada451 Posts
On January 26 2011 14:15 TheAldo wrote: Why is it beneficial to check the number of SK's? It's more beneficial because we then know how many KP a night we're going to have. Since the regular mafia games have 5-6 mafia members and we know the formula then it would be atleast 3-4 KPs a night. I think knowing the number of SK will benefit the town to prepare for the number of KPs at night. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
If Kav only checks mafia every night, then it will only benefit town and SK. But I doubt SK threatens town more than mafia threatens town. | ||
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Kavdragon
United States1251 Posts
My Case for Bumatlarge: On January 22 2011 01:35 bumatlarge wrote: Please don't kill me first,  Post analysis: On January 23 2011 14:56 bumatlarge wrote: It's better to have a good player as mayor regardless of alignment then someone who you know might be prone to mistakes. Lol, wut? So it would be better to have a really good player who is scum in the mayor seat, than a bad townie? On January 26 2011 08:12 bumatlarge wrote: A scum mayor is the worst scenario by far, regardless of anything else. This means we will never get information on town numbers. False-claims will be rampant, and it will turn into a clue-crapshoot. I want to avoid this at all cost. For this reason, I believe one of RoL or Kav is scum. It's just way to strong an opportunity to pass up. If we are luky, dr.H was the mafia claim, but seeing as how he had relatively no votes, I don't think this is a viable outcome to put your hopes in. I feel we should RNG our mayor :/ as right now we have a 50% shot at picking a scum mayor, or we can take a <25% chance at one. I'd like to hear thoughts. ... Contradicts his earlier statement. He says that he doesn't want a clue-crapshoot, but the only way to avoid this is analysis, something that he hasn't done any of. Says he doesn't want a crap shoot, but wants to RNG the mayor. He says that RoL OR Kav is scum, but is unwilling to do an analysis of the two of us. Just two people. This game is based off of analysis, not probability. On January 23 2011 15:44 bumatlarge wrote: Well. I've quickly scanned through Mercmafia and BCE, and I like what I see. Very active townie who takes care in what he says. He'd probably assume a DarthThienMayor persona if he is scum. Not very flexible, but hard to get rid of. Just need to keep an eye on him. All in all, a very capable mayor. He has my vote. On January 25 2011 12:52 bumatlarge wrote: Gonna put my vote on kav, and if he can spot a few more clues on different folks and finalize his statement on picking BG's, my vote is staying there. Very confident in me as mayor. On January 26 2011 08:12 bumatlarge wrote: I believe one of RoL or Kav is scum. On January 26 2011 09:13 bumatlarge wrote: I never said either of the candidates was pretty pro-town Changes his opinion without saying why. Why would he so confidantly vote for someone he didn't think was town? On January 26 2011 08:37 bumatlarge wrote: Let's just see how many people do it. Current number is 3, and numbers don't count after 8:00 est which is in 1&1/2 hours. GMarshal will be our mayor! :D Starts a concerted push for RNG'ing the mayor. As has been pointed out before it's a terrible plan that is very easily influenced by the mafia. He also starts this with 1.5 hours before the end of the day. On January 26 2011 11:00 bumatlarge wrote: The RNG plan isn't too great with only a few hours left and it was mostly just a thought in response to the situation Backs out of his plan, and tries to dismiss it as only an idea. This was not the feeling I got from the posts, and judging by the fact that BB followed along, I'd say that he got the same message from Bum. On January 26 2011 11:00 bumatlarge wrote: lol...? Do you realize how strong mayor is? Do you honestly think scum wouldn't try to have someone run? If I was in your shoes as town, RoL would be pretty fishing looking. And you aren't, which says something about you. Now I really hope you don't get mayor if this is actually how you think things through. Killing the only person who says you might be red is not the way to go. This is the core of your argument. (bolded) You are basing your argument off of something that may or may not be true. Sound familiar? On January 23 2011 11:03 LSB wrote: [*]WIFOM: Wine in Front of Me. Used to point out reasoning based on assumptions that may or may not be true. For example, Mafia would want to kill LSB. Therefore since LSB isn’t dead, he’s mafia. Also, from what I've gathered from other games, the typical meta from mafia recently has been "Lie back and let the town destroy itelf" not "Activly engage the town". But this is wifom too. Diagnosis This looks like scummy play to me. Perhaps overly scummy, but this could be explained: This game has no flipping, which means that the mafia do not need to worry about being dissasociated with eachother as much. If Bum and BB are scum, they don't need to worry about agreeing with eachother, because if one of them flips, the town still knows nothing about their alignment. This could very easily make a mafia more cocky, and forward with their posting. Conclusion: Bumatlarge is scum. | ||
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Kavdragon
United States1251 Posts
Papapanda: 5 Coagulation: 4 Tube: 2 Mr.Zergling: 6 Eti307: 2 TheAldo: 6 Impervious: 6 Divinek: 2 | ||
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
On January 26 2011 08:52 ilovejonn wrote: Also, why the change all of sudden? Even if your vote stayed on Doc. H it wouldn't have mattered. Hmm..? | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
Impervious was the most talkative person (maybe behind me) in Don't Lose Your Mafia. So something might not be right. He did only become talkative after day 1 though. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On January 26 2011 14:24 Beneather wrote: It's more beneficial because we then know how many KP a night we're going to have. Since the regular mafia games have 5-6 mafia members and we know the formula then it would be atleast 3-4 KPs a night. I think knowing the number of SK will benefit the town to prepare for the number of KPs at night. referes to the mafia Kp count as "we're" and refers to the "town" in an outside perspective. Badly worded post or scumslip? | ||
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Beneather
Canada451 Posts
On January 26 2011 15:38 Coagulation wrote: referes to the mafia Kp count as "we're" and refers to the "town" in an outside perspective. Badly worded post or scumslip? I meant the number of deaths the town is going to have. Badly worded I guess. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6788 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6788 Posts
Someone not some | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
On January 26 2011 15:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: lol Coag atrocious timing. Some mentions killing you (even in jest) and you show up to post that little gem. Oh, Coag mistook me. When I say "took out," I meant take him out of the list of suspects because Coag acts like this every game. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
Meapak_ziphh is apparently the only one that was confused about what LD was saying. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6788 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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papapanda
Taiwan326 Posts
I hope im not sounding overly negative of Kav's decision but i would've picked either of bum or bb to kill based on what he had done rather than on clues(that might not have even be relevent). But I understand that this was first day so there was not much to base analysis upon(ON didnt defend himself at all, that's probably why he was killed over the other two ). Btw i don't like the timing of the turns(of day/night), seems like i'm in the wrong time zone(missing all the periods when most people are on) also ill try harder to boost post counts | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
I scanned over the thread, got one question: Kav, why Beneather? I get GMarshal, but what was your reasoning for the second BG pick? I think it's important that we know, and I didn't see an explanation or him volunteering. I might have missed it, in which case I'm sorry, but I do believe it's crucial information. Also, I believe it's important to know number of SKs. Especially if Mafia turns up 4-5-6 people, because that could mean that there are more than one SK. Basically, in theory, mayor should be safe until at least one of the BGs die. If both BG are mafia (or Mafia+SK) then we lose mayor but get 2 good lynches, which is worth the census ability. So my point is, until at least one BG dies, then we have a bit of wiggle room with the census. Which is why we could use an SK count in night 2, imo. Also, in case you guys didn't notice, black is sort-of a recurrent theme in this game, so we shouldn't put TOO much emphasis on that when analyzing clues. I'm just saying, because this night it says there are no clues, but there are references to black anyway. | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
On January 26 2011 14:33 LunarDestiny wrote: But if Kav tells town about how many SK are there, it will help mafia as well. If Kav only checks mafia every night, then it will only benefit town and SK. But I doubt SK threatens town more than mafia threatens town. And how will that help mafia as well? Mafia can already guess the number of SK's from the # of KP per night. | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
Still I would like to see his response. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 26 2011 20:57 Nemesis wrote: And how will that help mafia as well? Mafia can already guess the number of SK's from the # of KP per night. It will also tell them the # of vigis we have. | ||
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