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So mayor should be getting mafia numbers tonight, awesome. | ||
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On January 26 2011 11:33 kitaman27 wrote: Once we have the mafia number, we also have the SK number unless there is a vig hit. Why would checking if the lynched was a SK be more helpful than checking if he was scum? We can also tell if mafia number comes back the same, but KP is reduced by 1, unless it's mafia stacking hits or something though. We'll know the next night if it stays the same or raises. Can SK abstain from a kill? | ||
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On January 26 2011 11:43 bumatlarge wrote: Almost true, but we are assuming that #ofM/2 is the formula, which may or may not be the case. If we all feel safe assuming that, then you're right Yes, but does it matter if we know how many SK there are right away, or just that we killed them? The SK number almost helps mafia as much as town, because if they know they are all dead they don't have to worry about wasting hits. | ||
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On January 26 2011 12:56 LSB wrote: Stop asking questions! No, No, and No (starting from the last blue text) Thank you for your quick response times. You host mafia games, we have fun, good job!  | ||
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On January 26 2011 13:28 LunarDestiny wrote: On number of mafia: I am very certain that mafia starts out with 5 or 6 players. That is based on the other 5? games I played with similar amount of players. If the checks return 4, then OriginalName is likely a scum. The SK might affect this, so don't count on it. If checks return 5, then we don't know much about the lynch. If checks return 6, then we are almost certain that OriginalName is a mislynch. Or OriginalName was a SK, though possibility of town remains (for 6). The thing is, Kav isn't confirmed, so we still need to take census results with a grain of salt (As they may be forged). I feel Kav has been acting pretty town so far, but I just don't want everyone to blindly believe census results and base all decisions off those alone. | ||
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On January 27 2011 09:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: When a man and a woman love each other very much... And then the stork gets involved, and the man doesn't know about it. And then he comes home one day, and finds out his wife is pregnant. But he never learns about the stork, never about the stork... | ||
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On January 27 2011 11:06 LunarDestiny wrote: Kav, how many mafia there are? Interested to know too. SK can't decline to kill too, I think LSB answered, unless they are being replaced for not sending in the kill. =/ So what were mafia doing? They must have hit SK(s) or vets or something. Hit claims? | ||
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On January 27 2011 11:08 Beneather wrote: ^ was about to ask that question? Or Did the Mafia and SK visit the same person. Do people know if they were visited? I think people know if they were hit. People are also notified if they were medic protected, so that might have soaked up some hits. I don't know if medic protection claiming is good or not though, helps mafia narrow down SK(s). | ||
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Also, just thought of this, what happens if there were two SKs, and they somehow both made it to the end? Would it be a tie cause they can't NK eachother? Or would it be who votes for lynch first? :p | ||
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On January 27 2011 11:13 Kavdragon wrote: Rest in peace brother Meapak_Ziph. See you in another life. In other news, I've been informed that there are 5 mafia. Ok, (if being truthful) so with 5 mafia, their KP should be around 3, maybe 4 (Doubt it). That would mean: A: 3 KP, 1 hit something that didn't die, no SKs left B: 3KP, 2 hit something that was allergic to bullets, or they hit-stacked (on night 1?), 1 SK I don't think it would be the case that they hit all 3 on something that wouldn't die and there are 2 SKs. This relies on mayor telling the truth too. | ||
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On January 27 2011 11:16 Beneather wrote: Wait so you were hit? I'm confused. The chances of that ever happening are very slim but I think that they both win? Since both are SK and they cant kill eachother. I wasn't hit. I was editing that people are notified if they are hit and live, because otherwise they just show up dead in the day post. :p | ||
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So what do people think we should do with the lurkers? How should we treat them? It looks like we actually have about 13 people with only around 10 posts, give or take 4. That's about half the player list. I think we can safely assume that there's going to be at least a couple mafia hiding in there, with only a few posts. I'd like to hear what the rest of town thinks we should do. We may not have a ton of time before tomorrow's lynch to do much about it without distracting from the actual lynch, but I think it may be worth it to potentially do a little pressure voting on lurkers (later), or else just call them out on it (like what just happened to Coag while I was writing this). By lurker, I mean someone who is just reading and not contributing, or just writing posts that say: "Yeah, I agree", or "Good analysis d00d", or other spam. It'd be nice to see more people get active, or at least provide their own opinions, fleshed out somewhat, or their original analysis. For example, a few people, Mr. Zergling, Divinek, Amber[Light], d3, where are you? None of you have really posted since the election or directly after night 1 ended, what's up? | ||
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On January 28 2011 14:28 Kavdragon wrote: This is a blue claim. Townies should never just sit back till there's more to analyze. If every townie did this, they would never get anywhere. If you are a vanilla townie, your play is unacceptable. If you are a blue player, you've made yourself more obvious by drawing attention to this than anyone else has by calling you out. However, I'm inclined to believe that you are NOT a blue player. Last game that you played a blue role in was Salem, if my research is correct. You were an active medic in that game, that told people what to do. This seems contradictory to what you are doing now, and makes little sense. Yes, people can change their play styles, but history has show it's usefulness before. Also, he could be a green wanting to draw attention to himself and absorb a hit. Bolding that definitely starts a whole bunch of WIFOM for both town and mafia. | ||
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On January 29 2011 07:25 BrownBear wrote: If by funny you mean terrible and frustrating, then yeah. Right now I'm still undecided on Nemesis, and yes, I know my vote is on him. However, because I think RoL is town, I'm giving Coag a day to shape up, and bum's been very active/posting analysis, I'm sticking with Nem for now. Currently RoL is the vote leader, which is not something I'm cool with. Are we really lynching him? I'd like to hear reasons why, there hasn't been a real unified case against him. I'd like to hear what you think of Mr. Zergling. So far, not many people have mentioned him at all while it seems he is a potential lynch candidate, or discussed the analysis on him, even though he has a couple votes on him. | ||
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On January 29 2011 07:36 BrownBear wrote: Because I'm giving Coag a chance, I have already posted my reasoning behind not voting RoL, and I haven't really taken a look at Mr. Zergling yet. Honestly, I'm wondering why I haven't seen anything about him, yet there's votes on him. Secret bandwagon? I'll try to throw up some analysis on Mr. Z, but I am heading to a rehearsal now, so I can't guarantee I'll get a full analysis done before the end of the day. I'll do my best, though. On January 29 2011 02:01 deconduo wrote: Mr. Zergling: + Show Spoiler + On January 21 2011 11:25 Mr.Zergling wrote: By waiting till the game starts lol, I think it will all be explained then On January 22 2011 01:05 Mr.Zergling wrote: woot On January 23 2011 14:54 Mr.Zergling wrote: /confirm Im waiting on my mayor vote till there is more than one candidate lol On January 24 2011 14:46 Mr.Zergling wrote: Still no other mayor candidates? On January 26 2011 12:41 Mr.Zergling wrote: Well, that was certainly a kick off... Really weird not having flipping, I forgot there wasn't and came on just to see if we got a red xD That is every single one of his posts this game. Now, obviously I haven't been very active myself, but it is tough to come into a game 25 pages in. However, I'm pretty sure I've contributed a bit more than he has, and I will be posting more that I have caught up somewhat. In addition you have this as I said earlier: + Show Spoiler + Clue: Cue the clash of lightning. Play the roar of thunder. And make sure there is a shower of rain. It was just a movie scene, just something from a scary film. A bad dream. This couldn’t be happening. I should explain. Mr.Zergling's Profile: Favorite Movie scene: Cue, play, movie scene There's no earthly way of knowing Which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing Or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a blowing? Thunder, lightning, rain Not a speck of light is showing so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes! The danger must be growing Scary Film/Bad Dream For the rowers keep on rowing. And they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing! Not only that, but this had been pointed out twice before: + Show Spoiler + On January 24 2011 12:53 Kavdragon wrote: A couple of things... The song lyrics are from a song called "Retrace" by anberlin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anberlin This would fit with the "I'm writting in reverse" theme that was in the night post. From Mr Zerglings's profile + Show Spoiler + Favorite Movie scene: There's no earthly way of knowing Which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing Or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a blowing? Not a speck of light is showing so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes! The danger must be growing For the rowers keep on rowing. And they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing! Nothing huge, but something worth pointing out. + Show Spoiler + On January 26 2011 13:50 bumatlarge wrote: Mr. Zergling + Show Spoiler + Favorite Movie scene: There's no earthly way of knowing Which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing Or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a blowing? Not a speck of light is showing so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes! The danger must be growing For the rowers keep on rowing. And they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing! Kavdragon pointed this out. From a movie, obviously, but it's about a rowboat (life is but a dream  )in some form a of precipitation. Closest I could find relating to a movie. Also he has the poem "The Raven" which is probably a long shot, but "just something from a scary film. A bad dream. This couldn’t be happening. I should explain." could be something.A lot of people have videos, but none of them are too relevant. After Original Name, this seems fairly strong, and I looked hard, but couldn't find much on this part for anyone else. I don't think Kav really likes me now lol. Here. I gave an idea to determine mayor randomly off the top of my head. You are really gonna drill me for anRNG plan to demonstrate how a mayor would be picked? I knew I would have to extend the time if it was to hold any water, so if you legitimately think I was trying to sway it away from you in that time, I don't know what to say. Hope you are gonna post more then this if you do an analysis. I wasn't there early enough to give my opinion that 2 candidates weren't enough to mean anything, but I stand by that. And yet, he has not responded to it, In fact, both those posts went completely ignored. I find this curious. All the discussion is between the RoL and Nemesis clues, (which are pretty damning as well I admit) but this has been passed by. If he is scum, his buddies are purposely trying to divert attention onto RoL/Nemesis and trying to not draw attention to the clues against him. In summary -Lurker -Significant clue points towards him -Hasn't responded to the clues -Clues have gone ignored by other people as well Deconduo has made this analysis in addition to the ones he quotes. It's just people are ignoring or are ignorant of the suspicions placed on him. It just doesn't look good that no one has even replied to any of this but are naming others with similar analysis as lynch candidates. | ||
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On January 29 2011 11:03 Coagulation wrote: no one defended nemesis all day. i dont think hes mafia. The sad thing is we won't know until the game ends, what with the 6 modkills and all.  | ||
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Amber[Light] zerroth Mr.Zergling tube ilovejohn d3_crescentia Are all going to face mighty lightning (and lose)? What the hell... I hope if they are all killed it's an epic night post about how they were hanging Nemesis when the roof collapsed in on them and then the floor fell out, or something equally hilarious... Still makes me sad though. | ||
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