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On January 21 2011 10:41 Impervious wrote: That's why you'd need to lynch one today and go for the other tonight. Otherwise, if you're wrong, and there is no lynch, the vigilante wins.
If you're the stalker, your plan is a guaranteed win.
If you're the vigilante, by claiming that I'm a traitor (which I am), you're giving yourself a 33% chance of winning. If coag is also a traitor (which I think is likely), then that jumps up to 50%. Because of how this game has gone, this would be the best move the vigilante could do.....
Assuming you're the stalker, I'm not sure which of the two would be the vigilante. SouthRawrea has been a little odd, but I really, really doubt that he wouldn't shoot at night, and hit-stacking is so unlikely. My bet is that it would be GeorgeClooney, for that reason, because he's been so inactive (relatively speaking, which would explain the lack of night actions by him). Although, I definitely understand your point about not going after GeorgeClooney.
Also, why the fuck would you check my role? I am indifferent about choosing between SouthRawrea or GeorgeClooney as today's lynch. I just need one of them to be lynched and I can shoot the other one.
I will explain my night actions last night. Nightkill: Possible targets are Impervious, SouthRawrea, Mr. Wiggles, and GeorgeClooney. I eliminate Impervious and SouthRawrea because I know they both are not mason. Yesterday, they are the first two people who want to lynch me. Normally, a vig wouldn't provide reason to lynch a possible mason. Vig also wouldn't want to start bandwagon on lynching a possible mason. Between Mr. Wiggles and GeorgeClooney, I think Mr. Wiggles is the better player. It is unlikely that if GeorgeClooney is the vig, that he will be able to shoot me. Because I only need to survive that night to win, I shoot the better player.
Rolecheck: Very simple. The choices are Impervious, SouthRawrea, and GeorgeClooney. You tell me: Who is the player who is the most active and willing to debate with me about the lynch today?
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On January 21 2011 12:30 SouthRawrea wrote:Okay. LunarDestiny. I have no reason to CC as stalker as I am in FACT NOT STALKER ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) . Just out of curiosity, what makes you so sure that Impervious or Coagulation have not been converted? I assume you check Impervious today so we should confirm the order in which the actions are taken at night before making any conclusions about his roles. Not so cut and dry as I was lead to believe by reading this day's post. 4 Things: Deconduo: please clarify the order Anyone: CC stalker? GeorgeClooney: Speak up Lunardestiny: Roles All mason died. Two nights ago, 2 mason died. Because I didn't shoot that night, it is impossible for 2 mason to die unless they tried converting me. Because they tried converting me, all masons are killed.
Roles? You mean this? List of remaining players: (my version) LunarDestiny - Stalker Coagulation - Traitor Impervious - Traitor SouthRawrea - unknown GeorgeClooney - unknown
If you want to see my list of night actions, I posted it 1 minutes after deadline for night actions. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7673479
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Hmmm. Not everything lines up perfectly, but I'm gonna have to go with it.
If you wanna lynch GeorgeClooney instead, it's up to you (I think it's the better move tbh). Coagulation will definitely join in, giving it a majority no matter what.
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I am worry that Coag might not join in. Dude needs to respond.
If I can find two people to vote with me on either SouthRawrea or GeorgeClooney, that is enough.
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Trust me, I'm also waiting on the response from him.
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Since this is highest vote lynch and not majority lynch. The current 2 votes might be enough.
To SouthRawrea: If you believe I am Stalker, vote GeorgeClooney. I will switch and Impervious is also likely to switch. Then we don't have to wait for coag.
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##vote Southrawrea
hes vigi
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Okay, sorry I've been getting 12 hour shifts at work and usually no joke fall asleep reading it, and waking up and working. I have alot of paperwork and havn't been on much to analyse. Just a few questions.
Who would you like me to vote? Looking at the first page, there is still a tracker left? Is there any more masons? Although LD said there are none.
So we are left with 5 people, who there are a stalker and vigi, unless one of them have been killed. ? amount of Masons, and ? mount of traitors. and 1 tracker
So in assumption there are 2 blues left is there 1 green and 2 reds or what?
For now I will vote myself, cause i'm a bit confused, but i will change vote when my questions hvae been answered.
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Just to speed things up a bit:
SouthRawrea the Traitor has been lynched.
Night whatever
Day whatever
GeorgeClooney the Vigilante has been shot.
Mafia Wins!
Role List:
Stalker: LunarDestiny Fool: GGQ Mason: OriginalName Vig: GeorgeClooney Tracker: Chaoser Traitor: chaokel Subversion Traitor: Mr. Wiggles Traitor: Impervious Traitor: Hesmyrr Traitor: SouthRawrea Traitor: Coagulation
Actions:
N1: Original Converts Hesmyrr Chaoser Tracks Impervious GCQ Visits Hesmyrr LD kills GCQ LD checks Chaoser
Results: Hesmyrr is now a mason Impervious visits no one Chaoser is a Tracker GCQ the Fool dies
D2: Chaoser Lynched
N2: Masons convert Subversion LD kills Hesmyrr LD Checks Coag
Results: Subversion is now a Mason Coagulation is a traitor Hesmyrr the mason is dead
D3: No lynch
N3: GC shoots Original Original Converts LD LD checks Original
Results: Original is a mason Origianal + Subversion the masons are dead.
D4: No lynch
N4: LD Kills Mr. Wiggles: LD checks impervious
Results: Impervious is a traitor Mr. Wiggles dies.
D3: SouthRawrea Lynched.
N5: LD shoots GeorgeClooney
Results: GeorgeClooney the vig dies.
Mafia win
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Some comments:
AFK vig screwed town basically. I should have modkilled him and I'm sorry for that. He shot once during the whole game, and hit fecking mason. (He was gonna die anyway, but still ) They also got a bit unlucky with tracker and masons going down earlier than normal, but nothing too bad. It was vig not shooting 3 times that screwed them. Imagine if it was day 5 with only stalker, vig and a traitor alive.
Overall good play from LD. He could have taken a shot on N3, and I dunno why he didn't. Apart from that he played his role well.
I'll comment on some of the other people in a bit.
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-I do not get why Tracker didn't visit hesmyrr on night 1. Everyone likes hesmyrr.
-Not surprised that GeorgeClooney is vig. Was surprised of his long post right before game ended.
-I was right about rolechecking coag. Either he starts out as town role which is a good check OR he will return as traitor. NO MASON IN HIS RIGHT MIND WILL RECRUIT COAG. COAG IS UNREADABLE.
-Also hesmyrr mentioned he left a plan for mason. It is true that I feared that plan. Any mason want to tell me what Hesmyrr left behind before he died?
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YES. I got the tracker to waste an early turn on me!
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I really don't like the move LunarDestiny made at the end..... He intentionally drew fire with a plan that could end up backfiring.....
If he had Coagulation say everything he said, and it failed, Coagulation would have taken the bullet at night if LunarDestiny was wrong. That would have been a nearly guaranteed win, even if shit hit the fan and there was no lynch. Thankfully GeorgeClooney has been inactive, basically.....
And some wierd things, like voting against the tracker (especially since he knew the identity)..... His gross overreaction when I called him out as a mason (essentially for some odd behavior) also didn't help.....
OriginalName being the initial mason is kinda funny. Day 2's lynch would have been bad for green either way lol.
Anyways, GG
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So if I was a traitor, and died, does this still count as a posthumous victory for me as well?
One thing about this set-up is that I felt there was a large reliance on the special roles. It might have had something to do with the masons and trackers dying very early, because it felt like there wasn't much to do in the day-time ever. People weren't posting a lot and were just waiting for night, so it was hard to look at them closely. Like I said, it probably had a lot to do with all the greens dropping like flies, made it so the stalker just had to clean up.
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Thanks Clooney, Thanks alot >
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On January 21 2011 22:19 LunarDestiny wrote: -I do not get why Tracker didn't visit hesmyrr on night 1. Everyone likes hesmyrr.
-NO MASON IN HIS RIGHT MIND WILL RECRUIT COAG. COAG IS UNREADABLE.
-Also hesmyrr mentioned he left a plan for mason. It is true that I feared that plan. Any mason want to tell me what Hesmyrr left behind before he died?
1: I liked Hesmyrr and I kinda just RNGed him ^_^
2: DEAR GOD THIS
3: No no real solid plan was made you guys were just overreacting, most the plans i had in my head revolved around me finding the vigi or the vigi catching on to what I was trying to get at. This failed due to inactivity and I really wish he would have been replaced by Pandain despite how i may not quite like his playstyle.
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On January 21 2011 23:36 Impervious wrote: I really don't like the move LunarDestiny made at the end..... He intentionally drew fire with a plan that could end up backfiring.....
If he had Coagulation say everything he said, and it failed, Coagulation would have taken the bullet at night if LunarDestiny was wrong. That would have been a nearly guaranteed win, even if shit hit the fan and there was no lynch. Thankfully GeorgeClooney has been inactive, basically.....
And some wierd things, like voting against the tracker (especially since he knew the identity)..... His gross overreaction when I called him out as a mason (essentially for some odd behavior) also didn't help.....
OriginalName being the initial mason is kinda funny. Day 2's lynch would have been bad for green either way lol.
Anyways, GG I only need two other people to vote with me to win. Why would Coag believe me when YOU won't believe me? All Coag got from me is the same of what you got from me. I told him that he is traitor, explained my game plan, nothing else.
Voting against tracker plus a lot more things are mindgames that I am not stalker. Also, I made it look like I given up on playing the game after I was saved from no lynched. Then I post a lot on other forums. I succeed in posing that I am not stalker... at least to mason.
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