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Nothing I said was forced. Stop fucking saying I didn't answer your arguments and distorted your words without providing examples. Its pissing me the fuck off. You write without any substance. If as a lawyer these are the arguments you use in court I would hate to be your client. You can't just say I ignored and distorted your arguments/words. Show me fucking examples. The reason you can't is because I haven't distorted shit. I have showed you guys everything that has happen. I proved my fucking vest transfer didn't go through by letting Kavdragon see it. I still have my vest and you killed LD before it could transfer. I didn't distort shit. There are so many more arguments that I have made you haven't even responded to. Like what the fuck your other power is? I know your hiding something and I know other people think you are. I want to know what it is.
The same reason I lynched LSB, no one can prove 100% that they are town. His arguments were shitty which contributed to his lynch last game. On top of that the town is always terrible at getting off track and you aren't a guaranteed lynch tomorrow. Plus with how this game is working, who the fuck knows if we are even going to be alive tomorrow? If your extra power has something to do with killing or something I'd rather have you dead now. Tomorrow is not a guarantee. LSB said MANY times that this is going to be a really fast game, and with a potential day vig and day KP by mafia I seriously am beginning to wonder just how fast.
I am not willing to let you live because it could potentially cause more harm then good among MANY other reasons that I listed.
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On January 11 2011 00:37 annul wrote: I AM A MEDIC AND CAN PROVE IT 100% AND NULLIFY ALL MAFIA STANDARD KP FOR THE REST OF THE GAME I AM A MEDIC AND CAN PROVE IT 100% AND NULLIFY ALL MAFIA STANDARD KP FOR THE REST OF THE GAME I AM A MEDIC AND CAN PROVE IT 100% AND NULLIFY ALL MAFIA STANDARD KP FOR THE REST OF THE GAME I AM A MEDIC AND CAN PROVE IT 100% AND NULLIFY ALL MAFIA STANDARD KP FOR THE REST OF THE GAME I AM A MEDIC AND CAN PROVE IT 100% AND NULLIFY ALL MAFIA STANDARD KP FOR THE REST OF THE GAME I AM A MEDIC AND CAN PROVE IT 100% AND NULLIFY ALL MAFIA STANDARD KP FOR THE REST OF THE GAME I AM A MEDIC AND CAN PROVE IT 100% AND NULLIFY ALL MAFIA STANDARD KP FOR THE REST OF THE GAME
what is not clear about this?
"From what I understand about your power it doesn't require you to live to work."
yes it does. So wait, you just lied to us? This is hilarious. You must really enjoy stumbling all over your words. I said you were trying to black mail us by claiming if you lived you would protect us all. Then I said that with my understanding of your power it works whether or not you are still alive. So you are blackmailing us to keep you alive. Then not even a page later you now admit you lied and your power DOES work even if you are dead now? Awesome. Another attempt at saving yourself. Your other power must be really worth it if you actually end up wasting your money trying to save people in order to keep yourself alive.
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LOL WTF? When all else fails kill those who are against you Annul?
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I won't be home until after the vote ends, I am at a shitty apple store right now. But I guess GG GL town unless either Kavdragon or Node changes their mind. Nice play Annul by killing Nemesis :/ Kav we can talk after the game is over I guess but I dunno how you expect to kill Annul too.
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Can you reveal all roles and powers ELESSBEE?
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Well what no one knew is that I had 2 vests the entire time. So it seemed plausible when I said I got the vest returned to me, when in actuality it exploded on LD killing him.
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On January 11 2011 11:14 LSB wrote: So what did you guys think of the game? Too many KP? Needs non-kp items? To fast?
What about the contracts? Don't ever send out role PM's 48 hours before the game starts again. I will hunt you down, and I will kill you. I couldn't even run interference yet because the game hadn't started. It was half luck that I managed to merc LD before turning on annul with my contracts. The protections for Annul were way too cheap. At the time I gave him my money and LD gave him his he had enough money to protect the entire town for 3 days. That is insane, I don't know why he just didn't do that in the first place. LD's power seemed fine in a larger game. It was too powerful in such a small game even though I figured he wouldn't get more than one hit it still put the mafia on edge facing 2 KP's day 1 we had to avoid and somehow taking down some really OP combo of day vig/OP medic. With your rules they could of gone toe to toe with us since once the game is 2-2 it doesn't end. If we didn't disrupt that the way we did we were fucked. Hard.
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Annul calm down. I out argued you extremely hard. Don't blame Kav that you couldn't convince him I was lying. What I was saying made sense and in another game could of been true. Its not his fault that you couldn't convince him better than I could. You can't blame him on believing me, you had the truth on your side and could never word it properly. I planned out how to take you and LD out knowing if I didn't we would be in deep shit. Unfortunately because of the early role PM's you guys were able to do shit before I could interfere. I had to force my move WAY earlier than I would of wanted to because if I waited we would of been fucked. It was your fault for not being more cautious and your fault for not being able to convince Kavdragon that you were innocent.
On top of that I want to note that you don't address points and you claim that your opponent doesn't. I never miss a point, I rarely ever manipulate wording. You lied quite a few times, built distrust while I appeared as transparent as possible. Your arguments never truly contradicted anything I said about you, towards the end you were making more sense but I had already beat you so far until then. Yes, it would of been a better idea to have you saving everyone for rest of the game, but you should of used that defense first. Instead you kept trying to manipulate people to keep you alive by lying about your power. You don't make yourself easy to trust while I did. That's why you lost. Ace said it the best. Mafia isn't a game about what the truth is, its a game about what you can convince people of.
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On January 11 2011 04:44 annul wrote: do you think it makes great game balance sense to give a mafia player a ridiculous medic ability AND some weird day vig power, as you claim i have? you are not stupid. neither am i.
ROL, i am having tremendous difficulty choosing your second partner. i think it is nemesis, but for some reason i have had tinges of doubt of kav for a while. its sad, because i want to trust him, but his analysis of the situation looks a lot like overzealous positioning for when i pop town as a way to initiate his defense of you. but nemesis is being blatantly dumb about it, node is 100% inactive despite his initial crap of "HEY im all for killing annul" and monkey makes one post with similar sketch logic against me as well. so i am pretty much stuck.
the point i guess is to look hard for the second red, in everyone. when i go, there are 5 remaining. i will be spending all of my money protecting everybody prior to my death, so no mafia should be able to get a kill through tonight. it will be 3-2. the town NEEDS to be unified tomorrow and it NEEDS to pick off a mafia. do NOT go with a third bandwagon. do not vote three people. vote for one target. or a second target. but the voting tomorrow needs to be 5-0 4-1 or 3-2. period.
this game does not end with my death.
On January 11 2011 04:49 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 00:37 annul wrote: I AM A MEDIC AND CAN PROVE IT 100% AND NULLIFY ALL MAFIA STANDARD KP FOR THE REST OF THE GAME I AM A MEDIC AND CAN PROVE IT 100% AND NULLIFY ALL MAFIA STANDARD KP FOR THE REST OF THE GAME I AM A MEDIC AND CAN PROVE IT 100% AND NULLIFY ALL MAFIA STANDARD KP FOR THE REST OF THE GAME I AM A MEDIC AND CAN PROVE IT 100% AND NULLIFY ALL MAFIA STANDARD KP FOR THE REST OF THE GAME I AM A MEDIC AND CAN PROVE IT 100% AND NULLIFY ALL MAFIA STANDARD KP FOR THE REST OF THE GAME I AM A MEDIC AND CAN PROVE IT 100% AND NULLIFY ALL MAFIA STANDARD KP FOR THE REST OF THE GAME I AM A MEDIC AND CAN PROVE IT 100% AND NULLIFY ALL MAFIA STANDARD KP FOR THE REST OF THE GAME
what is not clear about this?
"From what I understand about your power it doesn't require you to live to work."
yes it does. So wait, you just lied to us? This is hilarious. You must really enjoy stumbling all over your words. I said you were trying to black mail us by claiming if you lived you would protect us all. Then I said that with my understanding of your power it works whether or not you are still alive. So you are blackmailing us to keep you alive. Then not even a page later you now admit you lied and your power DOES work even if you are dead now? Awesome. Another attempt at saving yourself. Your other power must be really worth it if you actually end up wasting your money trying to save people in order to keep yourself alive.
That's the shit I am talking about Annul. Do you not read or do you not remember? You claimed your power couldn't work if you were dead, when I was pretty sure it could. Then like 5 posts later you say it can be used when you die when I point out how you are blackmailing the town to let you live.
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I got the reference Kavdragon I remember going "FUCK" inside my head upon reading that. Then me and Ace both dying that night, and our psychopath killer guy RNGing the prophet which killed himself. That was the worst feeling ever
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On January 11 2011 11:49 Kavdragon wrote: Oh, and I openly admit that I made a mistake. Hind sight is 20/20, and there were a lot of contradictions having to do with what RoL said he would do, and what he did. In then end I couldn't decide which was which. The spammy arguments were a big deterant, but I won't blame it on that. With no easy decision, I decided to kill Annul, becuase he would be the biggest deterant to my plan. His protection could save everyone from me. It's unfortunet that Annul protected Node, but it wouldn't have happened to me if I hadn't switched votes. hmm? What did I say to do and then fail to do?
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On January 11 2011 12:26 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 11:55 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On January 11 2011 11:49 Kavdragon wrote: Oh, and I openly admit that I made a mistake. Hind sight is 20/20, and there were a lot of contradictions having to do with what RoL said he would do, and what he did. In then end I couldn't decide which was which. The spammy arguments were a big deterant, but I won't blame it on that. With no easy decision, I decided to kill Annul, becuase he would be the biggest deterant to my plan. His protection could save everyone from me. It's unfortunet that Annul protected Node, but it wouldn't have happened to me if I hadn't switched votes. hmm? What did I say to do and then fail to do? Oh, you said that you were going to get obsessive about this game. You had very little in thread contribution prior to your giant argument. I was working that day and was kind of lazy. When the game started I played it obsessively. Think about yesterday, I spent probably around 16 hours on the computer convincing you, talking to LD, and annul. I spent almost my entire yesterday trying to get annul killed. I worked a lot in PM's and stuff but contributed a bunch in thread. I think I followed through on that promise, just after the game started not while PM's were out. As mafia talking while PM's were out wasn't going to do shit except give me more time to slip up.
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On January 11 2011 12:28 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 12:24 LSB wrote: Oh yeah, forgot the most important question. Was it fun? Absolutly. Even though I screwed everyone over and lost, It was still the funnest Mafia game I've ever played. I loved the fast pace of everything, and I actually liked the PM/Contract stuff. One thing that I'm realizing is that a lot of assumptions were made based off of this game being balanced. It's a test game. Should have guessed that it wasn't actually that balanced. Oh well. yeah I thought my weakest arguments came at the end of today. It was getting harder in my mind to explain why annul could protect people and I felt kind of stupid using the "It would be imba" argument on his protections. Or that he would have a second power he was lying about. My arguments I feel were very well put together until then when it started getting more scrappy. Thankfully there were only a few hours left in the day anyway and I wasn't worried about losing the lynch until Nemesis died when I realized that Kavdragon was going to be the deciding vote because if the game went another direction and didn't end Node's last minute switch would of revealed his alignment. I didn't know he had a grenade on him already too.
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Well it was pointless to make the exchange. If you wanted to wait until I was dead the game would of been over. I would of given it to you to earn trust, but when you asked for that I went out and didn't come back until after the vote was over
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