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HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 14 2011 18:05 GMT
#957
LSB, Fishball being a traitor has nothing to do with you being scum/SK. Its extremely stupid to lynch you just because Fishball is a townie or to not lynch you just because Fishball was a traitor.
We will very likely be lynching Fishball soon. You aren't making yourself look any better by making such a stupid offer.
HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 14 2011 18:23 GMT
#959
If LSB is an SK then he doesn't care about traitor.
If LSB is scum, well they don't have much use for the traitor if he is likely to die soon anyways. Lets face it, Fishball is likely to die in the next day or 2, I was actually under the impression that Kita was going to shoot him tonight, so hunting down the traitor doesn't really hurt scum too much at this point.
LSB is trying to get the town off of him and focused on the traitor again. Then after Fishball dies and turns up as traitor(most likely) town forgets they were investigating LSB.
HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 14 2011 18:35 GMT
#961
Yeah, too bad we are already suspicious of both of those players. So its not like you specifically rooted them out alone. Y
ou posted in such a way to imply that either they are mafia or you are, and that once we are done we find out which, we can stop supecting the other. Thats not the case.
HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 14 2011 18:55 GMT
#963
Twice?
So far no mafia has died. I don't see how they would be killing two of their own.
HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 15 2011 00:21 GMT
#1007
Hahahaha I fucking knew it.
HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 15 2011 07:27 GMT
#1129
Sorry I missed the crucial voting time guys. I had some shit I had to do at that time.

We need to decide on a person for Kita to kill tonight.

List of likely targets.

Cube - Lied to town in a effort to scare the mafia. Pretty weak claim with contradictory arguments about his reasoning.

Deconduo - Claimed SK.

Fishball - Likely Traitor.

BC - Was a potential lynch target. He should still be looked into as a viable target.

Misder - Hasn't been posting much. I almost completely forgot he was in the game. He seems to be trying to sit back and stay out of sight. I think he is a likely candidate for a scum.

Bumatlarge - Some people seem to be suspicious of him. However Deconduo has already stated that he will be using is SK kill on him tonight.

Other? - Tell me who you think should be on this list. We need to try and keep the list short so we can actually get a clear decision. We don't want to leave it ambiguous. There is still a potential that Kita is a scum. We need to make sure he is killing who we want him to and not leaving up to his choice.

I will go ahead and choose Misder for my pick.

All the other players are of potential use to us. Cube has claimed to be a Doctor. He has been suspicious, but if he is doctor, it can be still be useful to us. Deconduo has a KP that will be used to target scum since he can't let scum win before he does. Fishball is a potential traitor. However if he wants to continue living he will continue to provide analysis. Plus its unlikely he has been recruited yet, so he won't know which players are actually scum, so he can't really protect those players in his analysis. BC is in a similar situation. Has been under suspicion and will continue to provide useful analysis in order to stay alive. Now we get to Misder. He has been quiet. Too quiet. He isn't going to be posting useful analysis anytime soon. He said himself that he will not be posting much in the near future either. So of all my potential targets he will be of the least use for town and as such the best target for a lynch.



Now then. Cube. You claim to be a doctor, but you won't use your ability. Stop being a pussy. Don't waste your ability because you're afraid. This is probably the reason I'm the most suspicious of you. A doctor who isn't protecting someone doesn't look good. You need to protect someone tonight. Who knows, it could be what prevents us from losing tonight or tomorrow.

I propose that you protect either
Kita - While he has the potential to be harmful to us, its probably best to keep him alive. If he turns out to be a scum, we probably can't win as it is.
HaploPaithan - I was targeted last night and saved. I think it could be likely that I'm targeted again. Obviously I'm a bit biased here.
Eiii - Is hopefully our Parity Cop. A pretty good reason to be protected. He hasn't confirmed this, but he probably shouldn't until he can at least tell us something.

You should tell us who you will be protecting us tonight. This should pretty much guarantee that that player will not be killed. Scum will be reluctant to hit him, plus your protection should save him if they do decide to go after him. Then in the case that you are a weak cop and you die from it, we will know who you protected and that that person is scum. I think we should be able to tell if your death was from weak cop or someone's KP by the amount of deaths that will occur tonight.

So yeah everyone please let us know who you want Kita's KP to be use on. Also please mention anything that I might have overlooked.
HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 15 2011 15:10 GMT
#1142
On January 15 2011 17:28 JimboSilvers wrote:

Oh hey nice of you to come in and post!

You act like I've been inactive. I feel like i've been fairly active the whole game. I had some tests and a lot of homework the last few days, so I haven't been as active as I could have been, but what can you do when you're an engineering student. I've been more active than you obviously since I haven't gotten a warning.


On your list : why would we kill the SK? First off we can't kill him at night since he's bulletproof, and second we need to kill mafia, not SK. We're in a terrible position given its 16 players and 5, potentially 6 mafia, and a bunch of KP.

Oops. Forgot about that. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll talk about your other point in a minute.

Anything else to say about Fishball other than "likely traitor"?

You mention bumatlarge and say other people seem to want to lynch him. What do YOU think? I'm not feeling conviction here. Along with the other questionable picks on your list, I'm just feeling like you're trying to pick easy candidates here.

I talk about each player a little bit more in the paragraph after the list. I really want something to get done tonight. I picked the list not only based on my personal opinion but one what appears to have been the towns opinions as well.
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All the other players are of potential use to us. Cube has claimed to be a Doctor. He has been suspicious, but if he is doctor, it can be still be useful to us. Deconduo has a KP that will be used to target scum since he can't let scum win before he does. Fishball is a potential traitor. However if he wants to continue living he will continue to provide analysis. Plus its unlikely he has been recruited yet, so he won't know which players are actually scum, so he can't really protect those players in his analysis. BC is in a similar situation. Has been under suspicion and will continue to provide useful analysis in order to stay alive. Now we get to Misder. He has been quiet. Too quiet. He isn't going to be posting useful analysis anytime soon. He said himself that he will not be posting much in the near future either. So of all my potential targets he will be of the least use for town and as such the best target for a lynch.

As for bumatlarge, I personally don't feel he has been all the suspicious. TBH I put him on the list because Deconduo already said he was going to kill him.

Why Misder over other lurkers like zeks?

At this point, i feel town needs all the blue roles possible. Zeks had the potential to be tracker or something, so he wasn't as high on my list. I feel like if misder was a blue townie he would be more active. So he is either a scum laying low, or a green townie imo. I think him being a scum is more likely.
Beneather and Pigsquirrel are also other lurkers.
Why do you seem to be targeting Zeks in particular?

Also:
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HaploPaithan - I was targeted last night and saved. I think it could be likely that I'm targeted again. Obviously I'm a bit biased here.


Why do you think you'll be targetted again? And why do you think you're so important that we need to save your life? Your most recent post is just atrocious. kitaman, please ignore my last request and shoot this loser instead.


I already said I was biased here. I don't think I'm the best person to guard, but I'd like to give him some options. There was probably a reason why I was targeted last night, I'm not sure why, but that reason possibly still holds, so there is a chance I'm a target again tonight.


As for telling about the doctor protection tonight, I've explained why I think its beneficial. It can certainly be argued otherwise as well. I'd rather not get screwed over if possible though.

You propose quite a few new targets in your post. This is what I was trying to avoid. I really want town to come to a clear consensus. If you keep throwing in more targets, nothing will get done.
HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 15:31:43
January 15 2011 15:31 GMT
#1144
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 16 2011 00:10 HaploPaithan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 17:28 JimboSilvers wrote:

Oh hey nice of you to come in and post!

You act like I've been inactive. I feel like i've been fairly active the whole game. I had some tests and a lot of homework the last few days, so I haven't been as active as I could have been, but what can you do when you're an engineering student. I've been more active than you obviously since I haven't gotten a warning.

Show nested quote +

On your list : why would we kill the SK? First off we can't kill him at night since he's bulletproof, and second we need to kill mafia, not SK. We're in a terrible position given its 16 players and 5, potentially 6 mafia, and a bunch of KP.

Oops. Forgot about that. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll talk about your other point in a minute.

Show nested quote +
Anything else to say about Fishball other than "likely traitor"?

You mention bumatlarge and say other people seem to want to lynch him. What do YOU think? I'm not feeling conviction here. Along with the other questionable picks on your list, I'm just feeling like you're trying to pick easy candidates here.

I talk about each player a little bit more in the paragraph after the list. I really want something to get done tonight. I picked the list not only based on my personal opinion but one what appears to have been the towns opinions as well.
+ Show Spoiler +
All the other players are of potential use to us. Cube has claimed to be a Doctor. He has been suspicious, but if he is doctor, it can be still be useful to us. Deconduo has a KP that will be used to target scum since he can't let scum win before he does. Fishball is a potential traitor. However if he wants to continue living he will continue to provide analysis. Plus its unlikely he has been recruited yet, so he won't know which players are actually scum, so he can't really protect those players in his analysis. BC is in a similar situation. Has been under suspicion and will continue to provide useful analysis in order to stay alive. Now we get to Misder. He has been quiet. Too quiet. He isn't going to be posting useful analysis anytime soon. He said himself that he will not be posting much in the near future either. So of all my potential targets he will be of the least use for town and as such the best target for a lynch.

As for bumatlarge, I personally don't feel he has been all the suspicious. TBH I put him on the list because Deconduo already said he was going to kill him.

Show nested quote +
Why Misder over other lurkers like zeks?

At this point, i feel town needs all the blue roles possible. Zeks had the potential to be tracker or something, so he wasn't as high on my list. I feel like if misder was a blue townie he would be more active. So he is either a scum laying low, or a green townie imo. I think him being a scum is more likely.
Beneather and Pigsquirrel are also other lurkers.
Why do you seem to be targeting Zeks in particular?

Show nested quote +
Also:
HaploPaithan - I was targeted last night and saved. I think it could be likely that I'm targeted again. Obviously I'm a bit biased here.


Why do you think you'll be targeted again? And why do you think you're so important that we need to save your life? Your most recent post is just atrocious. kitaman, please ignore my last request and shoot this loser instead.


I already said I was biased here. I don't think I'm the best person to guard, but I'd like to give him some options. There was probably a reason why I was targeted last night, I'm not sure why, but that reason possibly still holds, so there is a chance I'm a target again tonight.


As for telling about the doctor protection tonight, I've explained why I think its beneficial. It can certainly be argued otherwise as well. I'd rather not get screwed over if possible though.

You propose quite a few new targets in your post. This is what I was trying to avoid. I really want town to come to a clear consensus. If you keep throwing in more targets, nothing will get done.

EBWOP:
I also made of list of decent targets to protect in case the town did decide that not revealing the protect was the best choice.
HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 15 2011 15:33 GMT
#1145
EBWOP: Oops edited a formatting error in the last post without thinking. Sorry. I wrote in the middle of the spoiler.
HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 16 2011 16:39 GMT
#1212
I'd like to see what Eiii has found out with parity cop.
HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 17 2011 23:41 GMT
#1345
Sorry guys. I was out of town all weekend. Threw a party for a friend on military leave and soon to leave for Japan. Just got back to my apartment a few hours ago.I've been reading via an ipod at times, but haven't really had anything intelligent to contribute. I'm caught up with everything now though. I should be more useful starting tonight/tomorrow.

##Vote Fishball

I'm cool with lynching Fishball. I've thought he was traitor for this entire time. Might as well go for it since that seems to be the towns consensus.
HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 18 2011 15:43 GMT
#1375
Ok, I've been waiting to claim in hopes that Eiii was a scum and would lie about it. I did pick parity cop.
N1 i viewed Bumatlarge, N2 I viewed JimboSilvers. I got the result same.

@JumboShivers
The reason I picked up Parity Cop over Eiii even though Eiii claimed he was going to pick it is because I didn't want the mafia to kill the parity cop. Outright claiming you are going to pick Parity Cop makes you a pretty good target. If Eiii were going to die, I didn't want us to lose Parity Cop.


As for role blocking the SK. If we are to believe BC theory and assume that Decon is mafia instead of SK. Then that puts BC at next most likely to be the second SK. As the second SK he would be the most likely to realize that Decon is probably not an SK.
So that would make BC your best target if you do in fact want to roleblock the SK and reduce KP at night.
HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 18 2011 23:01 GMT
#1383
On January 19 2011 07:08 aidnai wrote:
jumboshivers? that's as bad as GeorgeClooney calling pandain "paindrain" lol. Although, everyone is calling you halpo so maybe you just want a little payback...

Haplo's claim presents an interesting situation... I don't like the idea of killing off our information roles. If Haplo is telling the truth (town parity cop), it seems unlikely that either bumatlarge or jimbo are mafia, considering jimbo wants bum to be vig hit tonight (however, SK is still a possibility for either.)

It's quite possible that CPR doc is not in spot 10 or 11, for instance:
-Deconduo is scum, he saved the CPR role for someone further down the draft. Mafia felt ballsy, waiting till near the end of the draft to pick up CPR doc, resulting in it being more hidden. More risk, more reward.
-Deconduo is SK, mafia had someone at the end of the draft go for CPR doc, just for kicks, and got lucky.

That being said, I would rather flip Haplo than bumatlarge, for two reasons:
1) If Bum is indeed role cop, he could be very useful for finding SKs...
2) Haplo's reasoning for picking parity cop is very dubious, to say the least. Especially after all this:

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On January 03 2011 13:02 HaploPaithan wrote:
Cool plan. I'll go along with it.

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On January 05 2011 11:24 HaploPaithan wrote:
I like the plan.
Edit: If people can't agree on a full list. I think we should at least be able to agree that we need to have a pick order for the most dangerous roles.

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On January 07 2011 07:06 HaploPaithan wrote:
/confirm

I'm still cool with the predetermined list.

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On January 08 2011 01:23 HaploPaithan wrote:
I feel everyone should post if they are going to follow LSB's plan as of right now. This will give us a good idea how many intend to follow it.

I plan to follow it.

Pretty uncool of you to insist you're gonna follow the plan and then snipe the role above yours, don't you think?

If it turns out I saved the only scum set to die night one, just, lol...

Those were posts while the plan was still up for discussion. Once it was obvious that not many people were planning on following the plan, I also chose to not follow.
HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 18 2011 23:04 GMT
#1384
I also would like to add that if BC happens to turn out as an SK, Kenpachi should no longer be considered confirmed GF.
HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 18 2011 23:10 GMT
#1386
Yeah, I didn't really think of it like that. It was a dick move. I was mostly gunning for a useful role that was below me. I didn't really like Pardoner.
Coming out before I had 2 reveals is stupid. And I was pretty busy after that and felt like waiting on the offchance that Eiii would claim Parity as well.
HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 19 2011 04:22 GMT
#1429
I was not roleblocked last night. So it must have been bum who was. I viewed pigsquirrel last night and got the result different. I was hoping to determine if he was scum or not based on the view. Then lynch tomorrow so they wouldn't use PoD. Too bad they used it already.

This puts Jimbo and Bum as town and Pigsquirrel as Scum obviously.
Right now it would seem that it is 7/4/1.

BC has picked out myself, bum, pigsquirrel and deconduo as the 4 scum. If i had to guess, I'd figure that Jumbo also agrees with him. If that is the case then scum will lose without the help of the SK. If i were scum, i certainly wouldn't be relying on the SK to help me win. It would be much better to wait a day and then use PoD. Scum had no guarentee about who Kita would kill. It seemed likely that kita would potentially target Bum or Deconduo last night. This seems like a big gamble and not worth waiting another night or 2 to reveal the PoD. It would have required no roleblock on the CPR, no protections on their targets, and for Kita to not hit one of us.

I think we should be looking elsewhere. I'm looking at BC pretty heavily here. He is using a scare tactic of scum outright winning if we don't do as he says. This isn't really the case. We know for sure who a scum is, pigsquirrel. Yet he doesn't want to use the town's only KP on a guaranteed scum hit. He also considers Deconduo to be a scum, yet again isn't pushing for his death. Instead he wants to kill off Bum with the town KP and is hoping that the SK will kill off myself. The 2 players on his list least likely to be scum. If town and SK KP are used tonight to kill off Townies, then the game will go 3/4/1. Pretty much cementing a mafia win. We need to watch out for this. Other players that are potentially scum could include Misder, Beaneather, Aidnai, or Kenpachi.
Though my personal opinion is that Aidnai is a town who is being swayed by BC.

I will agree that Deconduo is probably scum. So if anything we should be playing it safe and killing off pigsquirrel or deconduo. Perhaps SK will help us, perhaps not. I'd personally say to kill Pigsquirrel tonight in hopes that Deconduo is actually the SK. Deconduo tomorrow.

Sorry if this post is a mess. Took awhile to write and I don't like the way it turned out. But hopefully you guys understand what I'm trying to say.
HaploPaithan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
January 19 2011 05:03 GMT
#1432
I'll respond to this in the morning/afternoon when I have more time to think. I'm tired and need to sleep.
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