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there are lovers in the game children are... http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Innocent_Child (so maybe the variation is in play) black hood... vig? doctor thats 6. so 6 more to go | ||
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On November 30 2010 12:46 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Oh and if I am correct on the pharmacist role it means we can't block any of the kills tonight, so whoever is the most active will die, or anyone who is confirmed. So anyone important should avoid claiming, because if I am correct it means you will die and there is nothing that can be done to stop it. only time "nothing can be done" is today (if you are right on the role that is), and we cant roleclaim today | ||
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On November 30 2010 13:59 Fishball wrote: Hell, the game just started. {...} But if one were to ask me for "advice", I would say I'm more inclined to look at the inactives, ##vote fishball | ||
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orgolove could just be changing his vote as a way to get more people onto fishball and off of ROL... i mean without a "vote changer" role existing. | ||
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but i do find it very funny, the above post of yours. timely, indeed. at least you dont condone it IRL, that is good. PS not trying to "get the last word" - only commend you for your sudden change of heart in playstyle | ||
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big big difference | ||
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but if you dont want to be addressed, then sure, ill stop addressing you. i will grant you the cessation of attack that you did not grant me. <3 so okay, back to this game, did nobody catch what i said about orgolove? maybe hes making shit up about this vote redirection role, to put more peeps onto fishball and off of ROL (or maybe even coag, if he's bussing)? | ||
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so believe me the sentiment is mirrored from my perspective as well. | ||
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look at the post i made when i voted him, when i quoted his post and showed the two blatant contradictory ideas. then look at orgolove. he either 1. is bussing fishball or 2. someone actually used that power and wants to save fishball, and the only logical use of this is a mafia use | ||
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drh says that he has hinted to all roles where is the vote redirection role hint? vote fishball, then vote orgolove tomorrow | ||
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also, there are 14 votes up and the day isnt over, so whoever hasnt voted must be "the hammer" its glasse. glasse is the hammer. which is lol because of what happened with him and his profile clues in haunted ;D but glasse is teh hammer. also i have changed my mind about orgolove. the corruption clue (if he is being honest) was written in all 4 colors, making me think it is a random effect and does not signal town or mafia or blue or miller. makes me think it is a random effect that happens. so orgolove for now is off my hook. i still like the fishball kill though for reasons iterated previously | ||
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seriously how is there a better target than this | ||
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your playstyle is a joke ZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING | ||
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On December 01 2010 16:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Mafia is a game of deception and misinformation not an intellectual dick measuring contest. shame it isn't a physical dick measuring contest, because if it were, i'd always win. | ||
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then, his OMGUS. then, the potential for mafia-controlled vote redirection. then, his lack of contribution whatsoever, even despite him saying "hell the game just started" yeah its been going on for a while - what has he done? a bunch of nothing | ||
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On December 02 2010 05:43 Coagulation wrote: unlynchables that have activated powers upon lynch wat | ||
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so that means the axe strikes early. | ||
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allow me to interject the awesomeness of this game to advertise the fact that HARRY POTTER MAFIA is forming! it will go down once salem finishes. i really like the role list and setup for this one (i am biased of course) and it will be pwnage and awesome. go go play sign up lets rock this biiiitch <3 | ||
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fishball claimed spirit. says he will get more powers when he dies. why arent we insta-voting him? | ||
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1. he is mafia. good lynch 2. he is spirit. good lynch. 3. he is neither. not that good a lynch, but what are the odds he is #3? ##vote fishball | ||
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was there a hint to a traitor role? | ||
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whatever, who would you rather us kill? opz? | ||
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##unvote fishball ##vote ~opz~ | ||
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i think it is a part of his ability. since he wants to be town lynched, it is a detriment to his ability to make it harder for him to be town lynched. remember the clue says "the SYSTEM is corrupt" in all 4 colors. makes me think its a neutral occurrence. or maybe, even, the first to get to 4 gets a vote taken off of them (as happened last time). | ||
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##vote fishball i still think hes town and would benefit from lynch. | ||
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Orgolove, Kingjames01, jcarlsoniv barundar coagulation annul opz: aeres is this correct? | ||
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i.e., is it over, or is there still a chance to debate this lynch? | ||
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now that its confirmed, i think fishball played ridiculously well. i think he survives this lynch with more power. i think he has been lying that he wont stay alive with new powers, so that the mafia keeps voting him. | ||
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it is possible for him to not vote in a day cycle. | ||
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On December 04 2010 14:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote: fuck it im just gonna end the night when i get everyones actions i work too late tomorrow and im too tired plus i hate it when people change too much. I have all night actions. you people have 30 minutes to make your decisions. drh = caller? | ||
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so maybe the mafia hit the tracker and the night vig took out coag or something though maybe the mafia controls the night vig | ||
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just an immediate response, but for shit like, for example, "no. deconduo could only VOTE if he was the hammer. it is possible for him to not vote in a day cycle." which i said in clarification of someone else making a false assumption... this is a "nothing" post to you. so, tell me, ghrur, what IS a "something" post? if you call this a nothing post then how can i even attempt to respond to your claim that 95% of my shit are "nothing posts"? and where is your analysis of KJ? he had a "pointless argument" all the same with me. why are you not calling him out on the bullshit too? maybe you and he are both mafia. in fact that makes sense, since he is now conveniently "going to tell you everything" and how you are now going to "protect him"... hmmmmm | ||
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On November 30 2010 07:39 ghrur wrote: I'm assuming PMs are allowed right? nothing On November 30 2010 07:53 ghrur wrote: Op, so PMs aren't allowed.  Darn.WELL... that kinda throws a wrench in my plans. nothing On November 30 2010 08:39 ghrur wrote: I'd suggest we just pressure people through voting and discuss our opinions on who looks suspicious or not. Also, having a plan for town to organize around is NEVER bad. I mean, if we can get a town circle, all the better right? Let's see, so far those who haven't posted: Barundar RoL Jcarlsoniv annul Pandain (wut?) Well, might as well be bold. ##Vote RebirthofLegend posting the inactives like 2 hours after game begins, as if it means something, and then a random vote out of nowhere with no logic or reason? k On November 30 2010 09:59 ghrur wrote: Why would we want to do that? Dr. H is basically giving us unlimited time to get a GOOD lynch in, and you want to rush it? Why? I think we can hit a mafia day 1 giving our low player pool if we really try.  Cmon Decond, I KNOW you have mafia sniping skills. ^_^just as much "nothing" as my posts he claims are nothing posts On November 30 2010 11:42 ghrur wrote: Seems more like we switched alignments. >_> nothing post On December 02 2010 10:10 ghrur wrote: After that roleclaim and that defense, I'll admit I was wrong. Decond seems town to me now. :p. I mean, no town would admit to misusing that role so quickly. Peace? lol. admission of wrongness, cool, better than being called out for it later i guess On December 01 2010 08:08 ghrur wrote: Hey look! RoL and I agree despite me never even reading his analyses. ^_^ Well, I guess we have a lynch candidate. ##Vote Aidnai nothing post, bandwagon follower On December 04 2010 10:55 ghrur wrote: Oh good god. I come back and there's green blood everywhere. Ugh, green is such a nasty color. We need more red blood... + Show Spoiler + or purple blood. ^_^ Purple so sexy yo, it's like gretorp and haunter But damnit man, Decond never even got to post his analysis. >_< nothing post On December 03 2010 13:51 ghrur wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2010 09:45 jcarlsoniv wrote: If you have doubts about my alignment, then your worries will be satisfied assuming everything works out with the checks/lynch. When day rolls around, I ask everyone to hold off voting for me until we have our information from our DT. If something bad happens with the checks, I don't want to be killed off for no reason. Nah, I have hardly any doubts on you right now. Your defense was adequate, your volunteering for lynch is uncharacteristic of mafia, I'm just stupid. xP admission of wrongness, see above On December 03 2010 08:12 ghrur wrote: I think you guys are relying way to much on pharmacists. So we know they exist, but do we know how many? 1? Maybe 2? I mean, it's a 15 person game, it isn't that big. If Mafia has 2 KPs and aims for both Coag and Barundar, I'm thinking we just lost 1 DT night one. The thing is... why did you guys claim night 1? >_< And Fishball, making Decond would be WAYYYYY to OP to mafia. There are already 3 members, if they only need 4 to lynch every other day, then they can basically screw town over every other day. No way Decond's mafia if his roleclaim is true. Anyway, I feel like we should be scum hunting, but i'm not so sure about my suspects anymore. I say there's no way Decond's mafia. jcarlsoniv, idk, he seems uncharacteristically held back for someone who basically can't die, but on the other hand, there's no way mafia would volunteer to lynch themselves (WIFOM not included in the argument). I'm just keeping a watch on Aidnai right now. =/ I have another thought; I guess I'll wait until morning to make an accusation if anything. :p"HEY LETS SCUM HUNT BUT UHHHHHH DON'T INCLUDE ME OK" also includes some pretty interesting stuff in paragraph 1, its as if you want to signal you know stuff but cant. mafia much? On December 02 2010 12:25 ghrur wrote: Well, there are a few things that could go wrong with this: Mafia has someone to frame people with. One of them is paranoid, not insane. One of them is insane and the other is paranoid. We could have mafia claiming DT because everyone's already checked for, especially if godfather exists or there's he's a paranoid DT. But w/es, I suggest you take whatever you've got. If that's just this plan, than so be it. =/ wifom On December 02 2010 10:20 ghrur wrote: Yeah, he used his power. Notice there were only 4 votes for SouthRawrea. as much "nothing" as some of mine On December 05 2010 02:06 ghrur wrote: God, how did Barundar die? >_< Didn't he say he had a "pill?" Also, 7-3 now, we're going to need to lynch a mafia today. Let's not rush this lynch. nothing nothing On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote: Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)? this is pretty LOL to me. you leave a hint, because you intend the town to find it (otherwise why leave hints at all) but if you want town to find it, why not just be forthcoming with it? why risk mafia finding it and understanding it and not the town? maybe because you are mafia yourself? On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote: On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers? nothing On December 05 2010 14:06 ghrur wrote: Ouch. T_T That hurts. Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play. You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch. What else can you say? I've been inactive because I haven't been able to use TL for around 17 out of the last 21 hours or so. =/ If you want actual inactives, look at Aidnai who's basically disappeared despite him promising an analysis. Look at Node who hasn't even been here since the new day started. Heck, even Aeres who's last post was over 24 hours ago. Besides, I've been actively reading this thread, it's just I don't exactly trust my scumhunting after pushing Decond, suspecting Aidnai, and suspecting jcarl without much results. =/ Would you like me to post my thoughts on the game? [/QUOTE] im inactive but about to post an analysis on annul calling him out for supposedly providing nothing to the town, cool soooooooooooooooooooo yeah i can play this game too | ||
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On December 05 2010 18:15 ghrur wrote: + Show Spoiler [another interesting phenomenon] + On December 05 2010 17:52 aidnai wrote: Well, I have my analysis on Aeres almost ready to go, and i check the thread to see what's up, and here's Annul vs Ghrur. Before this argument came up, i had not considered annul, but I already analyzed ghrur (didn't post much of it though) and decided he was town. Reading their arguments, it still looks to me like ghrur is town, and he has done a decent analysis, imo better than his analysis of deconduo. Annul's reaction is... well, definitely a reaction. I want to go through the thread and decide for myself about annul though. He really flew under my radar up until now... Bottom line: I think we may have a winner here, and to avoid confusion and multiple lynch targets, i will hold off on my aeres analysis for now. I'll post it if Annul vs. Ghrur is not going anywhere. Post both. Also, yes, it is indeed a reaction. You know what's more interesting? He was DEFINITELY online between the time he last posted and the time of my post. Yet why, annul, did you not post your thoughts on the discussion? Opz asked for opinion. Why did you not give it to him? Why were you lurking instead of actually posting and being helpful? You could've said "GHRUR WAS SCUM" or "GHRUR IS USELESS" before I posted anything. In fact, if you were sure I am indeed scum and you are town, you would have done so and tried to secure a safe lynch for the town. However, you didn't. Instead, you stayed in the background, posted nothing since December 5th, 4:30 despite you being on at: 7:21, 9:35, 10:09, 11:23, 11:34, 13:37 (LOL 1337), and 14:09. Why wait until I call you out at 15:44 and post only at 16:23? There are a plethora of un-analyzed people. You could've easily posted about any of them. You could've posted your opinions on me, Node, KJ, Aidnai, but you didn't. Probably to not draw attention to yourself because, heck, as Divinek has shown, sometimes the easiest way to win for scum is to lurk. With that, good night.  I'll be off for the next 9 hours. i only post my reaction of you after you go on offense against me. i dont go through the hassle of checking every single post of somebody and analyze them unless i have a reason to. | ||
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he is not the "insane detective". i am. and i know that node is a green. thats it, so why would i come out? waste of a DT really. but now the town wants to attack me and i need to save my ass. the ghrur/KJ connection is pretty obvious. i have one check remaining, then i run out of DT power. keep me alive and tonight i will return a verdict on ghrur. KJ is very good at writing a whole bunch of convincing shit while being utterly incorrect and misleading - i know this for a 100% fact now. i was on his ass forever and now hes taking an opportunity to lynch me because i hate him. im not the mafia - he is. and so is ghrur, probably. in the meanwhile because KJ is an obvious liar, ##vote kingjames01 | ||
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LSB was my other check. of course i am asking for a reprieve, because i am not mafia, and now i know for sure that you are. is there any other time in the game that a player is going to ask for a reprieve other than when people are on their ass for day lynch? think about it. i hate you because you are ridiculously incendiary for no reason. your arguments are always very offensive, even if you deny this until the end. our fight in sengoku (which, by the way, your 50 pages of accusations turned out to be false, go figure)... our fighting here... all you do is cause problems. and ghrur conveniently overlooks the mutuality of it all. it really is interesting. my "proof" is who do you believe more? there are two competing claims. you claimed insane DT and called me out. i am the true insane DT. i really do not know why you did this, because when i do flip town, you die tomorrow. its a weird sacrifice that i do not understand. but nevertheless, it is true; i am town, and if he is saying otherwise, he must be mafia. also, you never showed "proof" either - you posted a chain of convenient situations that somehow makes you the insane DT. this is hilarious because now i know PRECISELY what you are capable of doing while red. any future games, i will trust you 0%. so if i die today, when i flip blue (green i guess in this game ;\), look at KJ and look next at ghrur. and if i dont die today, i will check ghrur out tonight. KJ has a history of making very long posts that sound great and look nice but ultimately are full of logical holes. do not let him win this time. | ||
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it was KJ who is pulling this garbage out this time. he is mafia and lying and is targeting me, specifically, because of the reaction he knows i will have. yes, when i run out of juice i can do limited things. obviously i would say what they were if i didnt think it was a dumb idea to do so. presuming i do live i dont want people knowing what it is, because then they can possibly prevent it from happening. furthermore, "the free pass to kill who i want" is fallacious. IF i were mafia (which i am not), mafia is going to be able to kill tonight all the same... so people are gonna die tonight no matter what, why would killing me (or, in the actual case, any mafia to begin with) stop that from happening? | ||
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assume i am mafia (i am not)... if you town lynch me today, you assume i cannot return to my mafia team and influence future actions? if i were mafia, i still win even if i am dead. i can still assist them with future night kill choices. or, you know, i could tell them today what i want to happen tonight, right? so really i demur that argument. but of course, am not mafia. KJ is. and as to jcarl, isnt it much more likely that i defend myself when i am called a red by a DT when i am in fact the DT and i KNOW he is lying? not just suspect, but KNOW? think about it | ||
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2. it is as good a proof as anything you can produce. 3. hypnotist, as you claim it, is the same thing as an insane DT. you get to rolecheck someone at night and get the wrong information. this is an insane DT. dont try to argue like it isnt. does the town see what KJ does? i mean seriously this is ridic 4. i am an insane DT that has limited use and a minor set of abilities to choose from when i run out of these uses. as stated earlier, not going to explain to you (especially as you are mafia) what these minor abilities are. but nice try. | ||
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On December 06 2010 09:45 ghrur wrote: Annul, at least counterclaim fully if you're going to say that you're the insane DT and not KJ. Right now, your counterclaim doesn't even give us enough information to believe you. What clue points to your role? What're your other minor abilities? Why does your role "run out of juice?" Why wouldn't you be willing to fully claim to kill a mafia member? What is the name of your role? Come on, unless you tell us all those, are you seriously expecting us to believe your counterclaim over KJ's claim? Furthermore, your description of a role is nowhere to be found on Mafia Wiki. From the roles seen before, every role has an equivalent on Mafia Wiki. Why would you suddenly get a mash-up of a temporary insane DT followed by random "weaker" powers that you won't even share with us? I think this is just a last ditch attempt to confuse town and escape from your lynch. ##Vote Annul i dont fully counter claim because it is 7-3 now and i am playing for endgame. i am going to assume mafia has 2 KP and one of their night 1 was blocked (maybe a delayed kill like poison in haunted?). if i die, KJ dies anyway, so the argument of "fully claim to take down a mafia" isnt gonna work, since he is going down tomorrow no matter what when i flip town. if i gave you the name of my role, then this will signal how to defeat my abilities. my role runs out of juice because that is how drh set up the role? i have never seen this role before, ever. so it is new. i have multiple things i can do at night but the DT-type ability is most potent, so i use it. i am sure there is somebody in the town who can help me defend myself. where are they? | ||
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oh wow. if i die we lose, the game is over. the remaining players, the final voters need to think very very carefully about this lynch. when i die, assuming mafia has 2 KP, the game is over unless some medic save occurs. | ||
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i fucking hate you KJ lol good luck scum! | ||
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had i given it to him, that would have immediately ended the game | ||
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the bussing was planned from day 1. the fighting between us was orchestrated and planned from the beginning. we knew the bus would come. i had to fight it hard but with bad logic, so i could die. and i did <3 | ||
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On December 07 2010 17:48 kingjames01 wrote: If the inclusion of smiley faces unnerves you then I've accomplished my goal. =) you know, you used this precise line with me, just replace "smiley faces" with something else why do you want to unnerve as many people as possible? what can that possibly gain you? | ||
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On December 07 2010 15:18 Fishball wrote: As for Annul, his early arguments and points struck out to me as scummy i had to leave some scum clues to support the day 3 bus. | ||
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