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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 05 2010 00:19 GMT
#701
On December 05 2010 06:38 aidnai wrote:
Holy...
3 night kills seems like too much for scum, we must have had a vig waste a hit, no? The possibilities as I see it are

1) 2KP + 1 special, 1KP was successfully stopped by town night 1. I suppose this is possible based on the number of pharmacists, often mafia kp will not be less than the number of medics.
2) 1KP + 1 special + 1 vigilante missed. I know the hints haven't exactly specified a vig, but then, the zombie was actually a vet...

I don't think there could be 2 special kp for mafia used the same night, right?


Again, I'm going to say that there cannot be a town-aligned Night Vigilante. In the following post, I point out that a pro-town Vigilante cannot be the answer to how 3 players got eliminated last night.

On December 05 2010 04:57 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 03:35 annul wrote:
maybe there is a night vig somewhere


No, I disagree with this statement. I don't think that there is a Night Vigilante; at least not a Town-aligned one.

Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 01:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Day 3

3 bodies were found floating in a pool in the morning.


Why would a pro-town vigilante dump the body in the same place as the other hits? If we believe that at least one of these 3 were killed by the mafia, we should assume that all of them were.

Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 04:30 annul wrote:
well we dont know who the night vig hit and who the mafia hit

so maybe the mafia hit the tracker and the night vig took out coag or something

though maybe the mafia controls the night vig


So let's suppose that we have an anti-town Night Vigilante running around. Then only 2 of the 3 victims are accounted for. So what happened to Barundar?


On December 05 2010 06:38 aidnai wrote:
Time to discuss lynch targets -_-
I have my suspicions on a particular person right now, but I want to make a very good analysis before i post it.


Okay, so who is your suspect and where is this analysis?
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
December 05 2010 01:43 GMT
#702
Promise, I got a big post coming up.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
December 05 2010 02:38 GMT
#703
On December 01 2010 12:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Sometimes the hammer strikes back

and it almost struck evil



Is anyone around. I would like to bounce some ideas around in the thread. Kinda got me thinking....
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 05 2010 02:43 GMT
#704
I'm here. What's got you thinking?

I posted my thoughts about that clue. I can go dig it up if you want.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 05 2010 02:51 GMT
#705
I posted this just before deconduo cast the Hammer and got Fishball lynched.

On December 04 2010 07:19 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2010 06:58 LSB wrote:
On December 04 2010 06:29 kingjames01 wrote:
LSB, take a position. Who do you think is Red and why?

I'm counting approximately 9 players contributing to this discussion. Where are the rest of the players?

I'm going after the Clue from DoctorH that the Hammer almost hit mafia.


Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 12:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Sometimes the hammer strikes back

and it almost struck evil


Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 03:07 kingjames01 wrote:
On December 03 2010 02:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
One strikes with the hammer the other with an axe.

One strikes back, the other strikes early


im annoyed by how far off everyone is with these hammer clues, damn


On December 03 2010 02:56 deconduo wrote:
I'm the axe. So someone else is the hammer.


On December 03 2010 02:58 annul wrote:
"the hammer almost struck back"

so that means the axe strikes early.


Okay, so the axe hint is understandable. deconduo can end the day early. According to the OP, the hammer is supposed to refer to the last vote.

On November 29 2010 14:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The vote that ends the day is called "the hammer".


These two concepts are related but not identical. I don't completely understand the phrase strikes back. It makes me think of retaliation. Maybe the person who almost cast the last vote yesterday was actually mafia and would have been killed by the hammer.


The Hammer did not 'almost hit mafia'. The Hammer is the last vote. There might be some element of a retaliation since sometimes it "strikes back." I think there might be something sinister about casting the Hammer. It's possible that the person who casts the Hammer might face consequences.


Then DrH posted this which confirmed my suspicion.

On December 04 2010 10:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Night 2


Fishball was shot by firing squad. Because he was the Priest, the angry wrath of god struck down the person who condemned him.

Show nested quote +
Priest - You can not cast the hammer (deciding vote). If someone casts the hammer on you, they will die.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
December 05 2010 03:47 GMT
#706
Awesome. Your here. Sorry, haven't checked in a minute. Been thoroughly rereading everything. What are your thoughts on Node? Seriously. My notes on him so far....Consist of...
"13. Node

Scolds Coag for not just stepping up and running a town circle.
Comes up with some role ideas. Comes up with some ideas how other roles work, after people are explaining already. Then spams. And becomes inactive. Makes fun at Fishball's epic attempt."

Fishball wanted to be killed by someone, and he figured the mafia would jump a later bandwagon. Hence is wanting of an early death.

I dunno. Anyway, I'm resupporting aidinai, but I'm taking another look at Ghrur. Your thoughts on him? He was going after Decoundo, who now we know was for sure town, after a run of votes had already occurred. Not too certain, but kinda suspicious of him.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
December 05 2010 03:58 GMT
#707
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)?
darkness overpowering
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
December 05 2010 04:02 GMT
#708
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers?
darkness overpowering
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
December 05 2010 04:15 GMT
#709
On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)?

I said kinda, and why wouldn't a mafia go after him so hard?

He had arguably a decent amount of scummy posts day one, and then you apologized crazily. You laughed he used a role wrongly. I dunno....seems cockily teasing to me. You been rather jocular all game actually, besides your posts with him. Your last posts have been pretty spammy, and not to mention you haven't done anything since posting analysis on Decoundo. Dr. H didn't post the final vote counts in the last day post, which is kinda messing with me.

Aidnai stopped posting too.

Jcarl needs to explain why lynching him would be bad for the town. If its bad for the town, then we don't want to do it, but how would not telling us why benefit the mafia.

Don't have much done on Annul, his arguments with KJ scrambled my brains a little, but it was completely irrelevant.

And why couldn't Aeres vote fishball either. Peculiar.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
December 05 2010 04:20 GMT
#710
On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)?

In addition, I'm more interested in towniness being proven now. We kinda need it.

Fishball Priest
Coagulation Whisperer

3. ghrur
barundar Radar Tech
5. Orgolove Veteran

6. Aidnai
7. ~OpZ~ Innocent Child
8. jcarlsoniv
9. annul
deconduo
LSB Hobo

12. kingjames01
13. Node
SouthRawrea Psychic
15. Aeres

KingJames needs to go back to scum hunting himself, but I'm more interested in Aidnai claiming. He said he would claim day two? Did I miss it too?

Me and Oroglove are confirmed. This should be pretty simple to figure out.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 05 2010 04:25 GMT
#711
On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers?


=) Are you going to spam to get to 1000?

On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)?


Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play.

You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch.

What else can you say?
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 05 2010 04:31 GMT
#712
On December 05 2010 13:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)?

In addition, I'm more interested in towniness being proven now. We kinda need it.

Fishball Priest
Coagulation Whisperer

3. ghrur
barundar Radar Tech
5. Orgolove Veteran

6. Aidnai
7. ~OpZ~ Innocent Child
8. jcarlsoniv
9. annul
deconduo
LSB Hobo

12. kingjames01
13. Node
SouthRawrea Psychic
15. Aeres

KingJames needs to go back to scum hunting himself, but I'm more interested in Aidnai claiming. He said he would claim day two? Did I miss it too?

Me and Oroglove are confirmed. This should be pretty simple to figure out.


I have been trying to hide myself until I can contribute more. My scum-hunting in other games have led me to early exits via Night Kills so I've deliberately toned down my analysis.

However, I'm at the point where I think we might have to take big risks if we want to salvage some chance at winning the game.

If I reveal my role and what I've found then I'm going to want assurances that I am protected tonight. I can do more for the town if I wait one more Night, but I don't think we really have the luxury of waiting.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
December 05 2010 05:06 GMT
#713
On December 05 2010 13:25 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers?


=) Are you going to spam to get to 1000?


Ouch. T_T That hurts.

On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)?


Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play.

You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch.

What else can you say? [/QUOTE]

I've been inactive because I haven't been able to use TL for around 17 out of the last 21 hours or so. =/ If you want actual inactives, look at Aidnai who's basically disappeared despite him promising an analysis. Look at Node who hasn't even been here since the new day started. Heck, even Aeres who's last post was over 24 hours ago.
Besides, I've been actively reading this thread, it's just I don't exactly trust my scumhunting after pushing Decond, suspecting Aidnai, and suspecting jcarl without much results. =/ Would you like me to post my thoughts on the game?
darkness overpowering
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
December 05 2010 05:06 GMT
#714
EBWODP:

On December 05 2010 13:25 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers?


=) Are you going to spam to get to 1000?


Ouch. T_T That hurts.

Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)?


Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play.

You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch.

What else can you say?


I've been inactive because I haven't been able to use TL for around 17 out of the last 21 hours or so. =/ If you want actual inactives, look at Aidnai who's basically disappeared despite him promising an analysis. Look at Node who hasn't even been here since the new day started. Heck, even Aeres who's last post was over 24 hours ago.
Besides, I've been actively reading this thread, it's just I don't exactly trust my scumhunting after pushing Decond, suspecting Aidnai, and suspecting jcarl without much results. =/ Would you like me to post my thoughts on the game?
darkness overpowering
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 05 2010 05:15 GMT
#715
On December 05 2010 14:06 ghrur wrote:
EBWODP:

Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 13:25 kingjames01 wrote:
On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers?


=) Are you going to spam to get to 1000?


Ouch. T_T That hurts.

Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)?


Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play.

You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch.

What else can you say?


I've been inactive because I haven't been able to use TL for around 17 out of the last 21 hours or so. =/ If you want actual inactives, look at Aidnai who's basically disappeared despite him promising an analysis. Look at Node who hasn't even been here since the new day started. Heck, even Aeres who's last post was over 24 hours ago.
Besides, I've been actively reading this thread, it's just I don't exactly trust my scumhunting after pushing Decond, suspecting Aidnai, and suspecting jcarl without much results. =/ Would you like me to post my thoughts on the game?


The problem is that we can't just lynch based on who's inactive anymore. We need to find 3 mafia and you've just named 3 players. Including yourself, that's 4. I went through your posts and I think I found your hint. Why should we focus our search on someone else and not you?

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 05 2010 05:19 GMT
#716
On December 05 2010 14:06 ghrur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 13:25 kingjames01 wrote:
On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers?


=) Are you going to spam to get to 1000?


Ouch. T_T That hurts.


Also, I didn't mean this to be an insult! =) It was a joke. Good luck getting to 1000! Make sure you don't waste it on a small post by accident.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
December 05 2010 05:57 GMT
#717
On December 05 2010 14:15 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 14:06 ghrur wrote:
EBWODP:

On December 05 2010 13:25 kingjames01 wrote:
On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers?


=) Are you going to spam to get to 1000?


Ouch. T_T That hurts.

On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)?


Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play.

You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch.

What else can you say?


I've been inactive because I haven't been able to use TL for around 17 out of the last 21 hours or so. =/ If you want actual inactives, look at Aidnai who's basically disappeared despite him promising an analysis. Look at Node who hasn't even been here since the new day started. Heck, even Aeres who's last post was over 24 hours ago.
Besides, I've been actively reading this thread, it's just I don't exactly trust my scumhunting after pushing Decond, suspecting Aidnai, and suspecting jcarl without much results. =/ Would you like me to post my thoughts on the game?


The problem is that we can't just lynch based on who's inactive anymore. We need to find 3 mafia and you've just named 3 players. Including yourself, that's 4. I went through your posts and I think I found your hint. Why should we focus our search on someone else and not you?



Idk, do the analysis. I want to see you scumhunt KJ. If you really believe you should focus your search on me, then do it. It'll go nowhere, especially if you've found my clue, but if you're scum, all the better right?
darkness overpowering
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 05 2010 06:06 GMT
#718
On December 05 2010 14:57 ghrur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 14:15 kingjames01 wrote:
On December 05 2010 14:06 ghrur wrote:
EBWODP:

On December 05 2010 13:25 kingjames01 wrote:
On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers?


=) Are you going to spam to get to 1000?


Ouch. T_T That hurts.

On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)?


Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play.

You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch.

What else can you say?


I've been inactive because I haven't been able to use TL for around 17 out of the last 21 hours or so. =/ If you want actual inactives, look at Aidnai who's basically disappeared despite him promising an analysis. Look at Node who hasn't even been here since the new day started. Heck, even Aeres who's last post was over 24 hours ago.
Besides, I've been actively reading this thread, it's just I don't exactly trust my scumhunting after pushing Decond, suspecting Aidnai, and suspecting jcarl without much results. =/ Would you like me to post my thoughts on the game?


The problem is that we can't just lynch based on who's inactive anymore. We need to find 3 mafia and you've just named 3 players. Including yourself, that's 4. I went through your posts and I think I found your hint. Why should we focus our search on someone else and not you?



Idk, do the analysis. I want to see you scumhunt KJ. If you really believe you should focus your search on me, then do it. It'll go nowhere, especially if you've found my clue, but if you're scum, all the better right?


No, I don't think you understand what I mean. Think about it from everyone else's perspective. Based on what I think you are, I can't reveal you. But if I were to just conclude that we shouldn't lynch you and everyone should take my word for it, we'll be pegged as mafia.

You need to defend yourself to the town, and I cannot do it for you.

However, if you promise to help me survive the Night then I'll support you during the Day.

If you can assure me that we will mutually support each other then I will reveal everything I know.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
December 05 2010 06:20 GMT
#719
On December 05 2010 15:06 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 14:57 ghrur wrote:
On December 05 2010 14:15 kingjames01 wrote:
On December 05 2010 14:06 ghrur wrote:
EBWODP:

On December 05 2010 13:25 kingjames01 wrote:
On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers?


=) Are you going to spam to get to 1000?


Ouch. T_T That hurts.

On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)?


Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play.

You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch.

What else can you say?


I've been inactive because I haven't been able to use TL for around 17 out of the last 21 hours or so. =/ If you want actual inactives, look at Aidnai who's basically disappeared despite him promising an analysis. Look at Node who hasn't even been here since the new day started. Heck, even Aeres who's last post was over 24 hours ago.
Besides, I've been actively reading this thread, it's just I don't exactly trust my scumhunting after pushing Decond, suspecting Aidnai, and suspecting jcarl without much results. =/ Would you like me to post my thoughts on the game?


The problem is that we can't just lynch based on who's inactive anymore. We need to find 3 mafia and you've just named 3 players. Including yourself, that's 4. I went through your posts and I think I found your hint. Why should we focus our search on someone else and not you?



Idk, do the analysis. I want to see you scumhunt KJ. If you really believe you should focus your search on me, then do it. It'll go nowhere, especially if you've found my clue, but if you're scum, all the better right?


No, I don't think you understand what I mean. Think about it from everyone else's perspective. Based on what I think you are, I can't reveal you. But if I were to just conclude that we shouldn't lynch you and everyone should take my word for it, we'll be pegged as mafia.

You need to defend yourself to the town, and I cannot do it for you.

However, if you promise to help me survive the Night then I'll support you during the Day.

If you can assure me that we will mutually support each other then I will reveal everything I know.


I'm not asking you to defend me. I'll defend myself if people try to lynch me. However, until a formal accusation is made, or people start bandwagoning me, I feel no need to formally defend myself.

I can't promise to help you survive. All I can promise is that I won't try and push you during the day. For the night, you're going to have to post all that you know and convince our pharmacists that you're valuable enough to be saved. In that matter, I have no say.

I will support you if you reveal everything you know, but only if that happens.
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#720
On December 05 2010 13:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)?

I said kinda, and why wouldn't a mafia go after him so hard?

He had arguably a decent amount of scummy posts day one, and then you apologized crazily. You laughed he used a role wrongly. I dunno....seems cockily teasing to me. You been rather jocular all game actually, besides your posts with him. Your last posts have been pretty spammy, and not to mention you haven't done anything since posting analysis on Decoundo. Dr. H didn't post the final vote counts in the last day post, which is kinda messing with me.

Aidnai stopped posting too.

Jcarl needs to explain why lynching him would be bad for the town. If its bad for the town, then we don't want to do it, but how would not telling us why benefit the mafia.

Don't have much done on Annul, his arguments with KJ scrambled my brains a little, but it was completely irrelevant.

And why couldn't Aeres vote fishball either. Peculiar.


I apologized crazily? Idk, I didn't realize that. I was just saying, yeah, he's town after him roleclaiming. I hope I don't come off as cocky... And I'm acting peculiar because it helps to have different styles for different games right? :p

Aidnai stopping posting seems suspicious to me. That being said, his last post wasn't particularly useful. He also promised an analysis which, as KJ pointed out, never appeared.

As for annul...
+ Show Spoiler [annul] +
On November 30 2010 12:55 annul wrote:
btw it is illegal to claim on day 1 ROL


Nothing

On November 30 2010 13:10 annul wrote:

only time "nothing can be done" is today (if you are right on the role that is), and we cant roleclaim today


Nothing

On November 30 2010 14:38 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 13:59 Fishball wrote:
Hell, the game just started.

{...}

But if one were to ask me for "advice", I would say I'm more inclined to look at the inactives,


##vote fishball


Weakly supported vote which follows the bandwagon started by Orgolove

On December 01 2010 06:04 annul wrote:
uh

orgolove could just be changing his vote as a way to get more people onto fishball and off of ROL... i mean without a "vote changer" role existing.


Seems like WIFOM speculation to me.

On December 01 2010 06:04 annul wrote:
and lol KJ, good to see you and i finally agree that hostile attacks have no place in mafia games


Dig at KJ. No point. Drags us off course. Gets a player distracted for what reason? None.

On December 01 2010 06:23 annul wrote:
see that is the problem, you do not need to "unnerve" anyone into anything. this is a competitive game yes, but use your competition to win people over on argumentation, not insults, etc. all i am saying is that if you agree with that, finally, then good, we can continue without problems

but i do find it very funny, the above post of yours. timely, indeed.

at least you dont condone it IRL, that is good.

PS not trying to "get the last word" - only commend you for your sudden change of heart in playstyle


Continuing with the bickering. No point except to disrupt. Disruption seems good for mafia...

On December 01 2010 06:23 annul wrote:
there is a big difference between "that argument is bad because X" and "you make bad arguments"

big big difference


Continuing still.

On December 01 2010 06:36 annul wrote:
you definitely do not make the first type of statement; or at least you didnt, to me, in sengoku..

but if you dont want to be addressed, then sure, ill stop addressing you. i will grant you the cessation of attack that you did not grant me. <3

so okay, back to this game, did nobody catch what i said about orgolove? maybe hes making shit up about this vote redirection role, to put more peeps onto fishball and off of ROL (or maybe even coag, if he's bussing)?


Continuing still, but says "back to the game", but watch this.

On December 01 2010 06:51 annul wrote:
to be fair i had no idea you were even signed up for this game, i would have went /out had i known. i dont want to play with you either. it seems that all you are going to do is fight me in every single game we play. no matter what. you were wrong about me in sengoku and so it makes me think that your sole intention is to attack me regardless, whatever color you think i am or whatever color i actually am.

so believe me the sentiment is mirrored from my perspective as well.


NOT BACK TO THE GAME. :D Continued bickering, yay?

On December 01 2010 09:01 annul wrote:
so explain to me why we have gotten off of fishball?

look at the post i made when i voted him, when i quoted his post and showed the two blatant contradictory ideas. then look at orgolove. he either 1. is bussing fishball or 2. someone actually used that power and wants to save fishball, and the only logical use of this is a mafia use


Or that could be wifom and it's really just he was forced to change his vote because of randomness as was shown later.

On December 01 2010 11:39 annul wrote:
i think these clues mean that there is a role called "the hammer" that ends the day with the vote no matter what


Correcto!

On December 01 2010 11:40 annul wrote:
preacher probably refers to a priest role (bodyguard)


Wrongo!

On December 01 2010 15:29 annul wrote:
wow

drh says that he has hinted to all roles

where is the vote redirection role hint?

vote fishball, then vote orgolove tomorrow


The system is corrupt?

On December 02 2010 01:22 annul wrote:
opz already has a "vote" on aidnai (through ROL) so you technically need to unvote first.

also, there are 14 votes up and the day isnt over, so whoever hasnt voted must be "the hammer"

its glasse. glasse is the hammer. which is lol because of what happened with him and his profile clues in haunted ;D but glasse is teh hammer.



also i have changed my mind about orgolove. the corruption clue (if he is being honest) was written in all 4 colors, making me think it is a random effect and does not signal town or mafia or blue or miller. makes me think it is a random effect that happens. so orgolove for now is off my hook. i still like the fishball kill though for reasons iterated previously


Nothing really. =/

On December 02 2010 02:37 annul wrote:
hahahaha, AND the OMGUS with no other explanation whatsoever.

seriously how is there a better target than this


Pushing fishball, still informally. No concrete analysis yet.

On December 02 2010 03:01 annul wrote:
yeah, [almost] every single action anyone takes in these games has the implicit "i wanted to" attached to it.


Again, nothing.

On December 02 2010 05:45 annul wrote:
the fishball issue is as follows:

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 14:38 annul wrote:
On November 30 2010 13:59 Fishball wrote:
Hell, the game just started.

{...}

But if one were to ask me for "advice", I would say I'm more inclined to look at the inactives,


##vote fishball



then, his OMGUS. then, the potential for mafia-controlled vote redirection. then, his lack of contribution whatsoever, even despite him saying "hell the game just started" yeah its been going on for a while - what has he done? a bunch of nothing


Reiterating his arguments without anything new... what's the point. If we've read it once, we've probably read it 100 times. Really, this just seems to me the scum idea of "don't give away any information while seeming like you're helping" type deal.

On December 02 2010 05:46 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2010 05:43 Coagulation wrote:
unlynchables that have activated powers upon lynch



wat


Nothing.

On December 03 2010 02:58 annul wrote:
"the hammer almost struck back"

so that means the axe strikes early.
(Note: After Decond's role claim)

Yes, yes it does. Especially since Decond claimed he was the Axe(executioner) who strikes early. Nothing

On December 03 2010 06:56 annul wrote:
hey now im allowed to make garbage posts all the same as you do <3


Spam (ironic coming from me now KJ? <3)

On December 04 2010 04:54 annul wrote:
um

fishball claimed spirit. says he will get more powers when he dies.

why arent we insta-voting him?


He never claimed he gets more powers when he dies. He claimed his power ACTIVATES when he dies. Big difference there. Kinda like saying your analysis has bad logic, and you have bad logic. :p And that seems more like a townie role than a mafia role when you think super saint like on mafia wiki. =/

On December 04 2010 04:55 annul wrote:
three options:

1. he is mafia. good lynch
2. he is spirit. good lynch.
3. he is neither. not that good a lynch, but what are the odds he is #3?

##vote fishball


Adding nothing new. Same reasons as before.
Although, i don't get why he says lynching a spirit is a good lynch... Let's see here:
Lynching a spirit means we don't lynch a mafia.
Lynching a spirit means the spirit gets limited votes instead of unlimited.
Lynching a spirit means we go to night again without much information on who's mafia, and we let mafia retain their KPs... not that good actually unless you're mafia.

On December 04 2010 04:59 annul wrote:
he CLAIMED spirit. would a non-mafia, non-spirit claim spirit?


Fishball sucks for making this a possible mistake.

On December 04 2010 05:05 annul wrote:
mafia would be ridiiiiiiculously overpowered if they got the spirit role. our only way to kill mafia is by the town lynch (and maybe a vig role).


Wait, what? Are you basically saying Fishball's a townie yet we should still lynch him? I don't get it.

On December 04 2010 05:05 annul wrote:
coagulation

was there a hint to a traitor role?


Nothing.

On December 04 2010 05:09 annul wrote:
... how is that a hint to a traitor role? sounds like confirmation of the second lover to me.


Nothing.

On December 04 2010 05:11 annul wrote:
i missed it then.

whatever, who would you rather us kill? opz?


Throwing out random names? Cool.

On December 04 2010 05:24 annul wrote:
orgolove, you assume that it is a mafia role that nullifies the vote.

i think it is a part of his ability. since he wants to be town lynched, it is a detriment to his ability to make it harder for him to be town lynched. remember the clue says "the SYSTEM is corrupt" in all 4 colors. makes me think its a neutral occurrence. or maybe, even, the first to get to 4 gets a vote taken off of them (as happened last time).


Basis for this? Like, hint that matches?

On December 04 2010 05:13 annul wrote:
oh. well in that case, how would KILLING him make him town -> mafia? seems like he is already mafia then under that analysis


Nothing.

On December 04 2010 05:14 annul wrote:
but okay then.

##unvote fishball
##vote ~opz~


Whoa. Wishi-washiness. Wtf happened to your endless days of pushing for Fishball. Because of 3 posts by Coag and Barundar? Really?

On December 04 2010 05:35 annul wrote:
##unvote ~opz~
##vote fishball


i still think hes town and would benefit from lynch.


Again, what? Changing your votes. And also saying townies benefit from being lynched? No. You had a role description from Jcarl. You don't benefit from being lynched even as spirit; you just get limited posts. I don't understand where you get this lynching townie=beneficial idea. Not to mention, it seems like a ploy to get town to mis-lynch for a day.

On December 04 2010 05:36 annul wrote:
Fishball:
Orgolove, Kingjames01, jcarlsoniv barundar coagulation annul

opz:
aeres


is this correct?


Easy way to be useful as mafia.

On December 04 2010 06:31 annul wrote:
KJ sure knows how to be pro at insults amirite


Distraction to try and get town off track again? Idk if he's trolling at this point, but why would townies want to troll? Scum move imo.

On December 04 2010 07:39 annul wrote:
is fish at 7 or 8?

i.e., is it over, or is there still a chance to debate this lynch?


Uhhh, pointless?

On December 04 2010 09:19 annul wrote:
well its over now, he has 8, anything happening now wont count

now that its confirmed, i think fishball played ridiculously well. i think he survives this lynch with more power. i think he has been lying that he wont stay alive with new powers, so that the mafia keeps voting him.


Pointless post again.

On December 04 2010 10:28 annul wrote:
no. deconduo could only VOTE if he was the hammer.

it is possible for him to not vote in a day cycle.


Nothing.

On December 04 2010 16:10 annul wrote:

drh = caller?


Nothing.

On December 05 2010 03:35 annul wrote:
maybe there is a night vig somewhere


Nothing. guesses based on nothing.

On December 05 2010 04:30 annul wrote:
well we dont know who the night vig hit and who the mafia hit

so maybe the mafia hit the tracker and the night vig took out coag or something

though maybe the mafia controls the night vig


But... this only explains 2 deaths out of 3... are you trying to lead us off track? I don't get it.

Overall, Annul's posts have been really unhelpful. =/ It just doesn't feel like the same annul from Sengoku. It's hard to tell between apathetic townie right now, or mafia, but the note about "he's a townie, it'd help him if we lynch him" seems EXTREMELY scummy.


See if you agree.

For aeres, I feel aside from a few posts here, he hasn't been scummy:

+ Show Spoiler [aeres] +


About the "love" part, my guess is that it implies some sort of symbiosis with the other "lover"; perhaps this manifests itself in the form of being able to PM each other? The Doc did say that certain roles would be able to engage in private messaging.

As for beggar, I'm at a loss as well. You're probably correct in thinking it's an information role, but I wouldn't be able to guess much more than that.

RoL's analysis of Aidnai seems convincing enough. For now, my vote will stay on him, but as usual, this vote is still tentative.

##Vote Aidnai

To be honest, my vote on Aidnai was because I was following the lead of a more experienced player (RoL) who seemed to know what he was talking about. Since I've been really busy for the last few hours, I hadn't gotten around to changing my vote, despite that being on my itinerary. I'll unvote for now, but I don't have any solid clues on who to vote for now, so for the time being, I shall abstain.

##Unvote Aidnai

God, it's gonna take a while to end the day.


Votes Aidnai only because of following RoL/more experienced player.

C'mon, guys, our votes are way too divided right now. We need to find some solid candidates instead of voting purely based on hearsay and OMGUS.


He says we should scumhunt instead of going off OMGUS, yet he never does it himself.

For lack of a better plan, I'm gonna vote for SouthRawrea to make him talk at the very least, and maybe move the day forward like jcarlsoniv said.

##Vote SouthRawrea

I just wish all this passive agreement didn't make me look like a sheep, because I sure do feel like one right now... =(


Not really too scummy, but votes SouthRawrea for no reason really, and ends up securing the bandwagon for Decond's first axe.

After reading Orgolove's post, I'm inclined to agree that Fishball is definitely acting unusually. Perhaps it's not conclusive evidence yet, but this inconsistency with Jcarlsoniv and Fishball is of too much import to ignore. That, and Fishball's not acting in the interest of town, which is a red flag right there. I'm going to vote for him, until/unless future events cause me to rethink this.

##Vote Fishball

I apologize for lurking and not contributing as often as I should, but I've been sick for the past day, so my mind's a bit cloudy. Once I get better, I'll stop the bandwagoning and actually do shit for once. = /


Once again votes with other's analyses. Doesn't really do his own on people.

##Vote ~OpZ~ for reasons stated by Walrus-Shopper.
Once again votes because of someone else's reasoning.

....Fuck.

Fucking fuck.

And an overreaction on the day post. Although, this is explainable because that was really screwed up. >_<

And since then, he hasn't posted... which is strangely weird. I feel like he has scummy posts, but I also feel like his other posts are helping to contribute by analyzing the hints. This is different than annul who basically posted nothing, and accused using the same info again and again. Aeres seems more like unsure about who he wants to vote/unsure of his ideas instead of trying to hide information.
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