Experimental Mini Mafia - Page 28

On December 04 2010 05:08 Coagulation wrote:
this
Somebody has been born anew with the power of love.

On December 04 2010 03:42 Coagulation wrote:
im telling you hes gonna be converted to mafia if hes lynched. i was on to him 6 pages back.

On December 04 2010 03:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:
K, Fishball, even if you are town, you are not acting remotely in any way to help town at all. You need to go.

##vote Fishball

On December 04 2010 03:11 Aeres wrote:
After reading Orgolove's post, I'm inclined to agree that Fishball is definitely acting unusually. Perhaps it's not conclusive evidence yet, but this inconsistency with Jcarlsoniv and Fishball is of too much import to ignore. That, and Fishball's not acting in the interest of town, which is a red flag right there. I'm going to vote for him, until/unless future events cause me to rethink this.

On December 04 2010 01:32 Barundar wrote:
Noone else has commented on it, but Coagulation confirmed it could be the case:

Me and SouthRawrea (psychic) have the ability to check alignment. We therefore are the 2 with the “third eye”

Coagulation have the ability to check roles. He get his answers from the heavens. Therefore probably the preacher.

It was your post that made me think of this possibility, after I have been mistrusting Coagulation all day.

On December 03 2010 02:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

im annoyed by how far off everyone is with these hammer clues, damn

On December 04 2010 05:14 Barundar wrote:
Coagulation at the moment you are arguing based on the logic of the person you suggest to lynch (albeit its his replacement)

On December 04 2010 05:04 kingjames01 wrote:
jcarlsoniv has already told us what happens when he dies. Fishball, what do you gain from your lynch?

On December 04 2010 04:55 annul wrote:
three options:

1. he is mafia. good lynch
2. he is spirit. good lynch.
3. he is neither. not that good a lynch, but what are the odds he is #3?

##vote fishball

On December 04 2010 03:10 Coagulation wrote:
remember i said my role relies on my ability to run a town circle.
all your doing is shitting all over my efforts.

On December 04 2010 05:19 Fishball wrote:


What does he gain when he dies?
Can you quote that for me please?
Sorry I'm all over the place right now.

Also, just to say it upfront I won't reveal my ability regardless.

On December 02 2010 15:02 jcarlsoniv wrote:


This isn't exactly necessary. All we would need is for someone to volunteer to be lynched, and have one DT check him. This would very quickly show the sanity of the DT that checked the lynchee. The thing is, this would take up the place of a possible mafia lynch.

I am willing to volunteer myself to be the DT fodder. I have the spirit residing within me, so if I am lynched, I will not completely die. I will still be able to share my thoughts with you guys once I pass.

On December 02 2010 21:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:


I won't. My role isn't too special. I will still be able to talk to you guys, but I will be limited in how much per cycle period.

On December 04 2010 05:17 Fishball wrote:
Alright, time for some action.



@ Coagulation - No, I will not be converted, I will not come back to life, I will die. Let me word it this way. If I get lynched, and I am still alive, feel free to kill me again.



@ jcarlsoniv - This cannot get more typical. Out of all reasons, you choose "you're not helping town, you have to die". We've seen this a million times, where Mafia tries to soft play and blend in with their vote, killing an innocent while wasting the Town's lynch. Also, you haven't even replied to the contradiction of your claim to mine at all.



@ Aeres - Think of it. If I weren't in the interest of town, why would I reveal two pieces of crucial information? That I know who Coagulation checked and the role of said player, and pointing out jcarlsoniv's role is contradicting with mine? Why would I want to draw more myself further more into the middle of attention? If I die and flip Mafia, everything I say can be disregarded. Why would I want to put myself in such position and waste my own effort, and get myself killed in the process? Think about it.

With that being said, keep your vote on me.



@ Barundar - Coagulation is NOT the preacher. I am. I will not further reveal my role, but I'm 99.99% sure I am the preacher. I'll admit I'm guilty of not reading much of DH's posts since the game started, in fact, I haven't read much of the thread at all until Day 2 started, due to my little personal experiment (which worked), and slack.

This is one of DH's comment:



Which means everyone so far was off with his clues regarding the Hammer. Now time for my turn.

The Hammer is the person who voted last during a lynch, the person who activated the kill.
This is what DH said:
"A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer "

Basically, it means there are 4 players that have their roles tied with the lynch. Now I have two different understandings regarding this statement.
1. Among these 4 players, some benefits from the hammer, some don't.
2. Among these 4 players, some can be the hammer (as in voting last), some can't. Why do I say that? Because my role description prohibits me from being the hammer, or I will be mod-killed. (Oh I just revealed more of my role!)

I think it's likely #2. It would be hard to benefit if you are lynched and dead. Yes, a player might have certain abilities that occurs upon being lynched, but that doesn't really benefit the player in any way, since he is dead. He can't play anymore. The term "fear" and "love" is also hard to apply in this case.

If it were #2, everything would make sense. Certain players have to be the hammer every time, and some can never be the hammer, like me.

I suggest everyone to closely observe the voting patterns from here on. Even if the town figure who these 4 players are, we'll still need to figure out the alignment from these players.

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Here are my top suspects for now.
1. jcarlsoniv - Instant kill if I were a vigilante.
2. Orgolove - He can very well be a naive Townie, but coming from my perspective, he is trying too hard, way too hard. I also don't like the idea of the Zombie role coming back to life. Let me ask you people something. What do Zombies eat? Brains. Who has Brains? The other players.

Regarding the rest of the players, it's just quite hard and too many to get a read right now. Hell I haven't even been tracking the lurkers.

Barundar/Coagulation - Now regarding the quote "Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies", we don't know if DH means sane/insane, or deliberately lying from the players. Let's assume Barundar and SR (who is dead) are the two men with a third eye, we still can't throw out the fact that we can't put Barundar in the clear just yet. If it is Barundar and Coagulation that has the third eye, same scenario applies. I'm not exactly pointing fingers at anyone here, but certain players can't just ignore certain facts and make a conclusion.

deconduo - I don't know. He claims he is the Axe and have ended the Day early. Everything makes sense, but something just doesn't add up with the Hammer thing. I'll have to think about it more later.

On December 04 2010 01:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:


Your power may be activated upon lynch, mine is just activated upon my death, no matter the cause. My role isn't very special, so if I can avoid dying for no cause, I would like that. I asked for people to hold off voting for me until a DT check comes back because I was afraid people would just start voting me when day started before we had any information. I don't want to die, but if it will verify a DT, I am more than willing to do so.

P.S. A role that is activated upon lynch only sounds not friendly for town.

On December 04 2010 05:24 annul wrote:
orgolove, you assume that it is a mafia role that nullifies the vote.

i think it is a part of his ability. since he wants to be town lynched, it is a detriment to his ability to make it harder for him to be town lynched. remember the clue says "the SYSTEM is corrupt" in all 4 colors. makes me think its a neutral occurrence. or maybe, even, the first to get to 4 gets a vote taken off of them (as happened last time).

On December 04 2010 05:24 annul wrote:
orgolove, you assume that it is a mafia role that nullifies the vote.

i think it is a part of his ability. since he wants to be town lynched, it is a detriment to his ability to make it harder for him to be town lynched. remember the clue says "the SYSTEM is corrupt" in all 4 colors. makes me think its a neutral occurrence. or maybe, even, the first to get to 4 gets a vote taken off of them (as happened last time).

Here are my top suspects for now.
1. jcarlsoniv - Instant kill if I were a vigilante.
2. Orgolove - He can very well be a naive Townie, but coming from my perspective, he is trying too hard, way too hard. I also don't like the idea of the Zombie role coming back to life. Let me ask you people something. What do Zombies eat? Brains. Who has Brains? The other players.