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I'm going to update this with what we know. Let me know if I'm wrong about anything.
Someone has a spirit inside them waiting to come out. (1) jcarlsoniv
Becomes a spirit upon death. Retains ability to speak. Ability to vote?
Somebody fell in love.
Somebody has been born anew with the power of love. (2, 3)
Lovers
A child is playing in the yard. (4)
Innocent Child
A man with a black hood stands in an alley.
The man in the black hood found his axe. (5) deconduo
Executioner
Someone just got a pharmacology degree from Liquidia University.
Another student got his Pharmocology degree. (6,7)
Pharmacists
A man begs in the street. (8) LSB?
Hobo?
Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies (9,10) Barundar, Coagulation
Sane/Insane detective
Somewhere on a wall the words are spraypainted. "Sometimes the day is
over before you think"
Sometimes the hammer strikes back and it almost struck evil (11)
?
Someone got caught speeding in a car. (12)
Speeder?
A guy has brains on his mind but doesn't know why. (13) orgolove
Zombie
Repetition the new epidemic of Liquidia? (14)
Possibly a disease carrier, a la Insane.
A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer (15) Fishball?
Preacher?
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On December 04 2010 05:57 Barundar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 05:20 Fishball wrote:On December 04 2010 03:10 Coagulation wrote:
remember i said my role relies on my ability to run a town circle.
all your doing is shitting all over my efforts.
Have some patience ok? You checked annul. Is this correct Coag? #unvote
Yeah
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Fishball, since your about to be lynched. Can you roleclaim for us?
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On December 04 2010 05:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Fishball, what do you get when you die? What happens? The difference between our claims is that I have told everyone what happens to me, but you have kept all information from the thread. If you truly are town, stop being worthless.
Why would I want to let the Mafia know?
You're worthless.
On December 04 2010 05:42 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 05:39 Fishball wrote:
One thing I just noticed after reading the last page.
kingjames or someone, can you help me do a count on the clues regarding each roles. Do they add up to 15? (One per player)
The way I see it, the quote "A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer " is just an extra hint regarding the relationship between certain players and the hammer, on top of the 15 role clues.
This is why I claimed Preacher and Spirit, I think they are the same role.
This is the list of clues. It doesn't include any of the updated information about who has claimed. It should help in this discussion though. I think the Spirit and the Preacher are separate roles. What does your Role PM indicate? Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 15:35 kingjames01 wrote:
So we know that DrH has given us clues to every role. I'm going to continue the list that deconduo started with the latest clues:
Someone has a spirit inside them waiting to come out. (1)
Ability activated upon death.
Somebody fell in love.
Somebody has been born anew with the power of love. (2, maybe 3)
Lovers
A child is playing in the yard. (4)
Innocent Child
A man with a black hood stands in an alley.
The man in the black hood found his axe. (5)
Mason
Someone just got a pharmacology degree from Liquidia University.
Another student got his Pharmocology degree. (6,7)
Pharmacists/Nerfed Medics
A man begs in the street. (8)
Hobo?
Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies (9,10)
Sane/Insane detective
Somewhere on a wall the words are spraypainted. "Sometimes the day is over before you think"
Sometimes the hammer strikes back and it almost struck evil (11)
Ability to end day early?
Someone got caught speeding in a car. (12)
Speeder?
A guy has brains on his mind but doesn't know why. (13)
Brain Surgeon?
Repetition the new epidemic of Liquidia? (14)
Possibly a disease carrier, a la Insane.
A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer (15)
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I'm not sure if this is the same person as number 11, but they both refer to a hammer. If so, then I'm missing a clue.
There are a few roles that I haven't figured out yet. Also, from this list, I don't know which roles are likely to be anti-town. Any thoughts?
As has been previously mentioned in the thread, one of these roles is supposed to be a Vote Nullifier. I don't see that in this list so I've probably missed a clue.
Why did I claim the spirit? Because an ability is activated after the lynch.
Why did I claim preacher? Because my role name is Priest, I can give you that, and I fear the hammer.
The way DH worded his disappointment of wrong interpretations of the Hammer, plus the clue itself, which adds up to more than 15 players, is why I think roles that were mentioned before are mentioned again in this line:
"A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer "
If what jcarlsoniv claims his abilities are true, the spirit would make more sense on his role than mine, but we can only find out after he is lynched. Still, this was not a random, unthoughtful claim from me.
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All right, so people aren't all "OFF WITH HIS HEAD"
Back to my analysis. You can ignore that question for a moment.
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Hes the town lover.
When we lynch him he will be converted to mafia
iv been trying to say this forever.
of course he wont admit it.
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On December 04 2010 06:00 Coagulation wrote:
Hes the town lover.
When we lynch him he will be converted to mafia
iv been trying to say this forever.
of course he wont admit it.
Excuse my language, but did you not fucking read?
On December 04 2010 05:17 Fishball wrote:
@ Coagulation - No, I will not be converted, I will not come back to life, I will die. Let me word it this way. If I get lynched, and I am still alive, feel free to kill me again.
The moment I remain alive after a lynch, everyone in the world would know I'm lying.
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Okay, updated using LSB's info:
Someone has a spirit inside them waiting to come out. (1) jcarlsoniv
Becomes a spirit upon death. Retains ability to speak. Ability to vote?
Somebody fell in love.
Somebody has been born anew with the power of love. (2, 3)
Lovers
A child is playing in the yard. (4)
Innocent Child
A man with a black hood stands in an alley.
The man in the black hood found his axe. (5) deconduo
Executioner
Someone just got a pharmacology degree from Liquidia University.
Another student got his Pharmocology degree. (6,7)
Pharmacists
A man begs in the street. (8) LSB
Hobo - Watches the town at night and sees all of the actions.
Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies (9,10)
SouthRawrea, ?
Psychic, Hypnotist
Somewhere on a wall the words are spraypainted. "Sometimes the day is
over before you think"
Sometimes the hammer strikes back and it almost struck evil (11)
?
Someone got caught speeding in a car. (12) Barundar?
Traffic Cop? Uses a Radar Gun.
A guy has brains on his mind but doesn't know why. (13) orgolove
Zombie
Repetition the new epidemic of Liquidia? (14)
Possibly a disease carrier, a la Insane.
A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer (15) Fishball, Coagulation?
Preacher?
On December 04 2010 05:55 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +Someone whispered a message into someone elses ears, Lovers: ?, ? [REDACTED. And Someone hypnotized someoneHypnotist: ?] , Someone watched somebody else with a pair of binoculars., Hobo: LSBSomeone pointed a radar gun at somebodies house., Traffic Cop: BarundarSomeone shot somebody to death, but they survived and came back as an undead zombie. mafia : ?, Zombie: orgolove
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Now, onto Fishball
Mafia has been helping out Fishball
-2 Vote Corruptions
-1 Hit on Orgolove.
This all could be WIFORM, however, in the game I played as mafia, I took out people who slightly suspected me.
Fishballs Role
-Fishball is not a critical town role such as Doctor or DT.
-Fishball Claimed Preacher and has some sort of bonus ‘spirit’ after a lynch.
-An alternative theory is that Fishball is a ‘town lover’ and is converted to mafia after the lynch.
One key thing we have to note is that Fishball is trying not to get lynched. That means that possibly getting lynched will weaken his role. I’m inclined to believe that he can’t survive the lynch
The Hammer
On December 04 2010 06:00 Fishball wrote:
The way DH worded his disappointment of wrong interpretations of the Hammer, plus the clue itself, which adds up to more than 15 players, is why I think roles that were mentioned before are mentioned again in this line:
"A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer "
Fishball knows something about the Hammer that we all don’t. I have two guesses on what the Hammer is. Either it is the Lynch, and Fishball gets a bonus if we lynch mafia. Or the Hammer is a person who’s role is tied to fishballs.
If someone wants to confirm what Fishball is leading us on with, as per the hammer, that would be great.
The hammer leands credibility to Fishball’s role as I believe he has deduced something that I did not think of and that pertains to his role.
Final Verdict:
Fishball is probably not lying about his role.
Since I believe the mafia roles are Lover, Vote Corrupter, and Bus Driver. I’m going to say that Fishball is probably town.
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On December 04 2010 06:10 kingjames01 wrote:
Someone watched somebody else with a pair of binoculars., Hobo: LSB
I don't got binoculars.
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Alright, time for some action.
On December 04 2010 03:42 Coagulation wrote:
im telling you hes gonna be converted to mafia if hes lynched. i was on to him 6 pages back.
@ Coagulation - No, I will not be converted, I will not come back to life, I will die. Let me word it this way. If I get lynched, and I am still alive, feel free to kill me again.
On December 04 2010 00:02 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 21:09 Coagulation wrote:
fishball you need to cut the godamn shenanigans and start helping town. But remember I said I have two things to announce? Since more people have spoken up, here it is. 2. Remember where I asked Lebron to quote "jcarlsoniv" on his claim since I missed it? I waited till Night to end so I can bring this up. Very damn conveniently, based on the lines DH provided us thus far, I have a spirit inside of me too! My power is activated upon being lynched. Hmm, this sounds very familiar... Unless DH has two roles with "OooOo Spirits inside them", or one of these roles were meant for another hint/clue/lead/guide/pointer/sign/trace, jcarlsoniv is lying. I also like how jcarlsoniv said "don't lynch me just yet, I would like to see how other people think". I for one don't care if people lynch me or not, hence I never gave a crap on Day 1. I would have voted for myself if I could, which I actually tried.
how the fuck are you gonna "die" AND "activate your powers" at same time.
jesus christ you are doing a piss poor job of making a LICK OF SENSE this game.
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On December 04 2010 06:12 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +Alright, time for some action.
On December 04 2010 03:42 Coagulation wrote:
im telling you hes gonna be converted to mafia if hes lynched. i was on to him 6 pages back.
@ Coagulation - No, I will not be converted, I will not come back to life, I will die. Let me word it this way. If I get lynched, and I am still alive, feel free to kill me again. Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 00:02 Fishball wrote:On December 03 2010 21:09 Coagulation wrote:
fishball you need to cut the godamn shenanigans and start helping town. But remember I said I have two things to announce? Since more people have spoken up, here it is. 2. Remember where I asked Lebron to quote "jcarlsoniv" on his claim since I missed it? I waited till Night to end so I can bring this up. Very damn conveniently, based on the lines DH provided us thus far, I have a spirit inside of me too! My power is activated upon being lynched. Hmm, this sounds very familiar... Unless DH has two roles with "OooOo Spirits inside them", or one of these roles were meant for another hint/clue/lead/guide/pointer/sign/trace, jcarlsoniv is lying. I also like how jcarlsoniv said "don't lynch me just yet, I would like to see how other people think". I for one don't care if people lynch me or not, hence I never gave a crap on Day 1. I would have voted for myself if I could, which I actually tried. how the fuck are you gonna "die" AND "activate your powers" at same time. jesus christ you are doing a piss poor job of making a LICK OF SENSE this game.
You suck.
Think, Mad Hatter.
No, I'm not a Mad Hatter.
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So wich is it
You get lynched and you DIE?
Or you get lynched and your power activates?
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On December 04 2010 06:10 LSB wrote:Now, onto Fishball Mafia has been helping out Fishball -2 Vote Corruptions -1 Hit on Orgolove. This all could be WIFORM, however, in the game I played as mafia, I took out people who slightly suspected me. Fishballs Role-Fishball is not a critical town role such as Doctor or DT. -Fishball Claimed Preacher and has some sort of bonus ‘spirit’ after a lynch. -An alternative theory is that Fishball is a ‘town lover’ and is converted to mafia after the lynch. One key thing we have to note is that Fishball is trying not to get lynched. That means that possibly getting lynched will weaken his role. I’m inclined to believe that he can’t survive the lynch The Hammer Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 06:00 Fishball wrote:
The way DH worded his disappointment of wrong interpretations of the Hammer, plus the clue itself, which adds up to more than 15 players, is why I think roles that were mentioned before are mentioned again in this line:
"A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer "
Fishball knows something about the Hammer that we all don’t. I have two guesses on what the Hammer is. Either it is the Lynch, and Fishball gets a bonus if we lynch mafia. Or the Hammer is a person who’s role is tied to fishballs. If someone wants to confirm what Fishball is leading us on with, as per the hammer, that would be great. The hammer leands credibility to Fishball’s role as I believe he has deduced something that I did not think of and that pertains to his role. Final Verdict: Fishball is probably not lying about his role. Since I believe the mafia roles are Lover, Vote Corrupter, and Bus Driver. I’m going to say that Fishball is probably town.
What, me trying not to get lynched? I never told you guys to back off your votes did you? I even told Aeres to keep his vote.
As I mentioned before, I don't really care if I get lynched or not.
And for the 3rd time, for the love of god. If I'm still alive after a lynch, just kill me. Once I'm dead, I'm dead.
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nm u posted answer while i was posting
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On December 04 2010 06:16 Coagulation wrote:
So wich is it
You get lynched and you DIE?
Or you get lynched and your power activates?
How about a combination of everything? Just like the Mad Hatter example I said?
I get lynched, I die, my upon being lynch ability activates.
OHH MAFIA IS SOOO HARD.
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On December 04 2010 06:14 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 06:12 Coagulation wrote:Alright, time for some action.
On December 04 2010 03:42 Coagulation wrote:
im telling you hes gonna be converted to mafia if hes lynched. i was on to him 6 pages back.
@ Coagulation - No, I will not be converted, I will not come back to life, I will die. Let me word it this way. If I get lynched, and I am still alive, feel free to kill me again. On December 04 2010 00:02 Fishball wrote:On December 03 2010 21:09 Coagulation wrote:
fishball you need to cut the godamn shenanigans and start helping town. But remember I said I have two things to announce? Since more people have spoken up, here it is. 2. Remember where I asked Lebron to quote "jcarlsoniv" on his claim since I missed it? I waited till Night to end so I can bring this up. Very damn conveniently, based on the lines DH provided us thus far, I have a spirit inside of me too! My power is activated upon being lynched. Hmm, this sounds very familiar... Unless DH has two roles with "OooOo Spirits inside them", or one of these roles were meant for another hint/clue/lead/guide/pointer/sign/trace, jcarlsoniv is lying. I also like how jcarlsoniv said "don't lynch me just yet, I would like to see how other people think". I for one don't care if people lynch me or not, hence I never gave a crap on Day 1. I would have voted for myself if I could, which I actually tried. how the fuck are you gonna "die" AND "activate your powers" at same time. jesus christ you are doing a piss poor job of making a LICK OF SENSE this game. You suck. Think, Mad Hatter. No, I'm not a Mad Hatter.
So what you're saying is that if you die, something happens but you no longer have the ability to speak. Does it benefit the town for you to be lynched? You keep throwing out vague hints to your 'role' and then when someone claims that role, you switch. Why don't you just come out and definitively answer the question:
How does your role work? Why should we keep you alive?
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On December 04 2010 06:16 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 06:10 LSB wrote:Now, onto Fishball Mafia has been helping out Fishball -2 Vote Corruptions -1 Hit on Orgolove. This all could be WIFORM, however, in the game I played as mafia, I took out people who slightly suspected me. Fishballs Role-Fishball is not a critical town role such as Doctor or DT. -Fishball Claimed Preacher and has some sort of bonus ‘spirit’ after a lynch. -An alternative theory is that Fishball is a ‘town lover’ and is converted to mafia after the lynch. One key thing we have to note is that Fishball is trying not to get lynched. That means that possibly getting lynched will weaken his role. I’m inclined to believe that he can’t survive the lynch The Hammer On December 04 2010 06:00 Fishball wrote:
The way DH worded his disappointment of wrong interpretations of the Hammer, plus the clue itself, which adds up to more than 15 players, is why I think roles that were mentioned before are mentioned again in this line:
"A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer "
Fishball knows something about the Hammer that we all don’t. I have two guesses on what the Hammer is. Either it is the Lynch, and Fishball gets a bonus if we lynch mafia. Or the Hammer is a person who’s role is tied to fishballs. If someone wants to confirm what Fishball is leading us on with, as per the hammer, that would be great. The hammer leands credibility to Fishball’s role as I believe he has deduced something that I did not think of and that pertains to his role. Final Verdict: Fishball is probably not lying about his role. Since I believe the mafia roles are Lover, Vote Corrupter, and Bus Driver. I’m going to say that Fishball is probably town. What, me trying not to get lynched? I never told you guys to back off your votes did you? I even told Aeres to keep his vote. As I mentioned before, I don't really care if I get lynched or not. And for the 3rd time, for the love of god. If I'm still alive after a lynch, just kill me. Once I'm dead, I'm dead.
1. What makes you think the hammer isn't red. We know very little of it, and the "axe" claimed pretty early.
2. Your argument buys into his guesses on blue roles. DrH's clues have notoriusly been hard to read, and are way too easy to hide behind. Fishnut has made absolutely no contribution in the thread, has been hiding information, and has overall just been dragging the town down. We can't rely on guesses against that.
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Wrong quote. I meant to quote LSB's post, not Fishballs.
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On December 04 2010 06:23 Barundar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 06:16 Fishball wrote:On December 04 2010 06:10 LSB wrote:Now, onto Fishball Mafia has been helping out Fishball -2 Vote Corruptions -1 Hit on Orgolove. This all could be WIFORM, however, in the game I played as mafia, I took out people who slightly suspected me. Fishballs Role-Fishball is not a critical town role such as Doctor or DT. -Fishball Claimed Preacher and has some sort of bonus ‘spirit’ after a lynch. -An alternative theory is that Fishball is a ‘town lover’ and is converted to mafia after the lynch. One key thing we have to note is that Fishball is trying not to get lynched. That means that possibly getting lynched will weaken his role. I’m inclined to believe that he can’t survive the lynch The Hammer On December 04 2010 06:00 Fishball wrote:
The way DH worded his disappointment of wrong interpretations of the Hammer, plus the clue itself, which adds up to more than 15 players, is why I think roles that were mentioned before are mentioned again in this line:
"A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer "
Fishball knows something about the Hammer that we all don’t. I have two guesses on what the Hammer is. Either it is the Lynch, and Fishball gets a bonus if we lynch mafia. Or the Hammer is a person who’s role is tied to fishballs. If someone wants to confirm what Fishball is leading us on with, as per the hammer, that would be great. The hammer leands credibility to Fishball’s role as I believe he has deduced something that I did not think of and that pertains to his role. Final Verdict: Fishball is probably not lying about his role. Since I believe the mafia roles are Lover, Vote Corrupter, and Bus Driver. I’m going to say that Fishball is probably town. What, me trying not to get lynched? I never told you guys to back off your votes did you? I even told Aeres to keep his vote. As I mentioned before, I don't really care if I get lynched or not. And for the 3rd time, for the love of god. If I'm still alive after a lynch, just kill me. Once I'm dead, I'm dead. 1. What makes you think the hammer isn't red. We know very little of it, and the "axe" claimed pretty early. 2. Your argument buys into his guesses on blue roles. DrH's clues have notoriusly been hard to read, and are way too easy to hide behind. Fishnut has made absolutely no contribution in the thread, has been hiding information, and has overall just been dragging the town down. We can't rely on guesses against that.
Hey, hey... Fishnut isn't appropriate... If you're going to be insulting, you have to do it with style, flair, class and subtlety... 
Anyway, if you feel so strongly against Fishball, why did you remove your vote? That doesn't really make sense.
This is the current vote tally:
Fishball (6)
orgolove, kingjames01, Aeres, jcarlsoniv, annul, Barundar, kingjames01, Coagulation, annul, (Aeres in spirit), aidnai
~OpZ~ (1)
Coagulation, annul, kingjames01, Aeres
Fishball, only 2 more votes and this whole issue is settled. You're going to get lynched if you don't try harder to save yourself.
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