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Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 21:28 GMT
#601
I removed my vote bececause Coagulation expressed doubts, and so we could have extra time to discuss it. But I'm fine with putting it back.
Bartundar
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 03 2010 21:29 GMT
#602
LSB, take a position. Who do you think is Red and why?

I'm counting approximately 9 players contributing to this discussion. Where are the rest of the players?
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 21:29 GMT
#603
I played for a very long time with a player called Fishnuts, isn't intentionally I keep writing it
Bartundar
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 03 2010 21:30 GMT
#604
If you spend a lot of time playing with Fishnuts, then I guess that's okay...

That's not my thing, but hey! Who am I to judge?
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
December 03 2010 21:30 GMT
#605
On December 04 2010 06:26 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2010 06:23 Barundar wrote:
On December 04 2010 06:16 Fishball wrote:
On December 04 2010 06:10 LSB wrote:
Now, onto Fishball

Mafia has been helping out Fishball
-2 Vote Corruptions
-1 Hit on Orgolove.

This all could be WIFORM, however, in the game I played as mafia, I took out people who slightly suspected me.

Fishballs Role
-Fishball is not a critical town role such as Doctor or DT.
-Fishball Claimed Preacher and has some sort of bonus ‘spirit’ after a lynch.
-An alternative theory is that Fishball is a ‘town lover’ and is converted to mafia after the lynch.
One key thing we have to note is that Fishball is trying not to get lynched. That means that possibly getting lynched will weaken his role. I’m inclined to believe that he can’t survive the lynch

The Hammer
On December 04 2010 06:00 Fishball wrote:
The way DH worded his disappointment of wrong interpretations of the Hammer, plus the clue itself, which adds up to more than 15 players, is why I think roles that were mentioned before are mentioned again in this line:

"A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer "

Fishball knows something about the Hammer that we all don’t. I have two guesses on what the Hammer is. Either it is the Lynch, and Fishball gets a bonus if we lynch mafia. Or the Hammer is a person who’s role is tied to fishballs.
If someone wants to confirm what Fishball is leading us on with, as per the hammer, that would be great.
The hammer leands credibility to Fishball’s role as I believe he has deduced something that I did not think of and that pertains to his role.

Final Verdict:
Fishball is probably not lying about his role.
Since I believe the mafia roles are Lover, Vote Corrupter, and Bus Driver. I’m going to say that Fishball is probably town.


What, me trying not to get lynched? I never told you guys to back off your votes did you? I even told Aeres to keep his vote.
As I mentioned before, I don't really care if I get lynched or not.

And for the 3rd time, for the love of god. If I'm still alive after a lynch, just kill me. Once I'm dead, I'm dead.

1. What makes you think the hammer isn't red. We know very little of it, and the "axe" claimed pretty early.
2. Your argument buys into his guesses on blue roles. DrH's clues have notoriusly been hard to read, and are way too easy to hide behind. Fishnut has made absolutely no contribution in the thread, has been hiding information, and has overall just been dragging the town down. We can't rely on guesses against that.


Hey, hey... Fishnut isn't appropriate... If you're going to be insulting, you have to do it with style, flair, class and subtlety...

Anyway, if you feel so strongly against Fishball, why did you remove your vote? That doesn't really make sense.

This is the current vote tally:
Fishball (6)
orgolove, kingjames01, Aeres, jcarlsoniv, annul, Barundar, kingjames01, Coagulation, annul, (Aeres in spirit), aidnai

~OpZ~ (1)
Coagulation, annul, kingjames01, Aeres

Fishball, only 2 more votes and this whole issue is settled. You're going to get lynched if you don't try harder to save yourself.


Read my previous posts. I'm not trying to save myself.
I don't care if I get lynched at all.
靈魂交響曲
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 03 2010 21:31 GMT
#606
KJ sure knows how to be pro at insults amirite
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 21:32 GMT
#607
<3
Bartundar
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
December 03 2010 21:32 GMT
#608
On December 04 2010 06:23 Barundar wrote:
1. What makes you think the hammer isn't red. We know very little of it, and the "axe" claimed pretty early.


Fuck me.

Do you guys even read the OP?

"The vote that ends the day is called "the hammer"."
靈魂交響曲
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 21:48 GMT
#609
On December 04 2010 06:32 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2010 06:23 Barundar wrote:
1. What makes you think the hammer isn't red. We know very little of it, and the "axe" claimed pretty early.


Fuck me.

Do you guys even read the OP?

"The vote that ends the day is called "the hammer"."

Funny. + Show Spoiler +
Basically, it means there are 4 players that have their roles tied with the lynch. Now I have two different understandings regarding this statement.
1. Among these 4 players, some benefits from the hammer, some don't.
2. Among these 4 players, some can be the hammer (as in voting last), some can't. Why do I say that? Because my role description prohibits me from being the hammer, or I will be mod-killed. (Oh I just revealed more of my role!)

I think it's likely #2. It would be hard to benefit if you are lynched and dead. Yes, a player might have certain abilities that occurs upon being lynched, but that doesn't really benefit the player in any way, since he is dead. He can't play anymore. The term "fear" and "love" is also hard to apply in this case.

If it were #2, everything would make sense. Certain players have to be the hammer every time, and some can never be the hammer, like me.

I suggest everyone to closely observe the voting patterns from here on. Even if the town figure who these 4 players are, we'll still need to figure out the alignment from these players.

Even if the town figure who these 4 players are, we'll still need to figure out the alignment from these players


Bartundar
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
December 03 2010 21:52 GMT
#610
On December 04 2010 06:48 Barundar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2010 06:32 Fishball wrote:
On December 04 2010 06:23 Barundar wrote:
1. What makes you think the hammer isn't red. We know very little of it, and the "axe" claimed pretty early.


Fuck me.

Do you guys even read the OP?

"The vote that ends the day is called "the hammer"."

Funny. + Show Spoiler +
Basically, it means there are 4 players that have their roles tied with the lynch. Now I have two different understandings regarding this statement.
1. Among these 4 players, some benefits from the hammer, some don't.
2. Among these 4 players, some can be the hammer (as in voting last), some can't. Why do I say that? Because my role description prohibits me from being the hammer, or I will be mod-killed. (Oh I just revealed more of my role!)

I think it's likely #2. It would be hard to benefit if you are lynched and dead. Yes, a player might have certain abilities that occurs upon being lynched, but that doesn't really benefit the player in any way, since he is dead. He can't play anymore. The term "fear" and "love" is also hard to apply in this case.

If it were #2, everything would make sense. Certain players have to be the hammer every time, and some can never be the hammer, like me.

I suggest everyone to closely observe the voting patterns from here on. Even if the town figure who these 4 players are, we'll still need to figure out the alignment from these players.

Show nested quote +
Even if the town figure who these 4 players are, we'll still need to figure out the alignment from these players




So what exactly is your question? Are you just repeating what I said?
Anyone could be the Hammer. The last vote to get a person lynched, which ends the day, is the Hammer.

What???
靈魂交響曲
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 21:52 GMT
#611
There isn't even 4 players left for those clues, considering the list of players. Fishball is all over the place with interpretation and guesses, while he has been withholding information for the town.

#vote Fishball
If you want to live you need to reveal more of your role.
Bartundar
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 03 2010 21:58 GMT
#612
On December 04 2010 06:29 kingjames01 wrote:
LSB, take a position. Who do you think is Red and why?

I'm counting approximately 9 players contributing to this discussion. Where are the rest of the players?

I'm going after the Clue from DoctorH that the Hammer almost hit mafia.

When we look at the Early Day 1 voting, we see that there were two main bandwagons, each with 3 votes at one point of time (and therefore hammerable)

Adani and Coagulation.

Coagulation is confirmed in my eyes, so I'll say Adani then
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
December 03 2010 22:01 GMT
#613
The only information I'm withholding is my actual role.
I only speculated and pointed out that 4 players can or cannot be the Hammer. I can't be the Hammer. Anyone who ends the day is the Hammer.

How confusing is this?

On December 04 2010 06:52 Barundar wrote:
If you want to live you need to reveal more of your role.


Is this a threat?
lol, be my guest.
靈魂交響曲
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 03 2010 22:08 GMT
#614
hardly a threat

More like a pretty accurate observation.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 22:10 GMT
#615
Sorry, I'm acting like an idiot - should really go get drunk instead. Here is the post I was refering to regarding red hammer:
On December 03 2010 02:56 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 02:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
One strikes with the hammer the other with an axe.

One strikes back, the other strikes early


im annoyed by how far off everyone is with these hammer clues, damn


I'm the axe. So someone else is the hammer.

I made up my mind when you claimed Orgo to be scum.
Bartundar
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 03 2010 22:19 GMT
#616
On December 04 2010 06:58 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2010 06:29 kingjames01 wrote:
LSB, take a position. Who do you think is Red and why?

I'm counting approximately 9 players contributing to this discussion. Where are the rest of the players?

I'm going after the Clue from DoctorH that the Hammer almost hit mafia.


On December 01 2010 12:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Sometimes the hammer strikes back

and it almost struck evil


On December 03 2010 03:07 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 02:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
One strikes with the hammer the other with an axe.

One strikes back, the other strikes early


im annoyed by how far off everyone is with these hammer clues, damn


Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 02:56 deconduo wrote:
I'm the axe. So someone else is the hammer.


Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 02:58 annul wrote:
"the hammer almost struck back"

so that means the axe strikes early.


Okay, so the axe hint is understandable. deconduo can end the day early. According to the OP, the hammer is supposed to refer to the last vote.

Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 14:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The vote that ends the day is called "the hammer".


These two concepts are related but not identical. I don't completely understand the phrase strikes back. It makes me think of retaliation. Maybe the person who almost cast the last vote yesterday was actually mafia and would have been killed by the hammer.


The Hammer did not 'almost hit mafia'. The Hammer is the last vote. There might be some element of a retaliation since sometimes it "strikes back." I think there might be something sinister about casting the Hammer. It's possible that the person who casts the Hammer might face consequences.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
December 03 2010 22:25 GMT
#617
On December 04 2010 07:10 Barundar wrote:
Sorry, I'm acting like an idiot - should really go get drunk instead. Here is the post I was refering to regarding red hammer:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 02:56 deconduo wrote:
On December 03 2010 02:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
One strikes with the hammer the other with an axe.

One strikes back, the other strikes early


im annoyed by how far off everyone is with these hammer clues, damn


I'm the axe. So someone else is the hammer.

I made up my mind when you claimed Orgo to be scum.


Claim =/= Suspect.
I can only Claim what I know for sure.

You really need to get your wording straight.
靈魂交響曲
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 03 2010 22:39 GMT
#618
is fish at 7 or 8?

i.e., is it over, or is there still a chance to debate this lynch?
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 03 2010 22:44 GMT
#619
On December 04 2010 07:39 annul wrote:
is fish at 7 or 8?

i.e., is it over, or is there still a chance to debate this lynch?


Actually, it's only 7.

This is the current vote tally:
Fishball (7)
orgolove, kingjames01, Aeres, jcarlsoniv, annul, Barundar, kingjames01, Coagulation, annul, (Aeres in spirit), aidnai, Barundar

~OpZ~ (1)
Coagulation, annul, kingjames01, Aeres

I think we're just waiting for someone to condemn Fishball now. If you have more things to say in his defense, you better hurry.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 03 2010 22:48 GMT
#620
lets just get this over with please
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