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opz already has a "vote" on aidnai (through ROL) so you technically need to unvote first.
also, there are 14 votes up and the day isnt over, so whoever hasnt voted must be "the hammer"
its glasse. glasse is the hammer. which is lol because of what happened with him and his profile clues in haunted ;D but glasse is teh hammer.
also i have changed my mind about orgolove. the corruption clue (if he is being honest) was written in all 4 colors, making me think it is a random effect and does not signal town or mafia or blue or miller. makes me think it is a random effect that happens. so orgolove for now is off my hook. i still like the fishball kill though for reasons iterated previously
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On December 02 2010 01:07 ~OpZ~ wrote:
13 is zombie not brain surgeon. I don't want to discuss blues because they aren't important. What is important is finding scum. Now stop discussing them.
##Vote: kingjames01
I don't see why you are so against discussing blue roles. It is necessary for town to gather all the information we can. Right now, the only information we can get is through speculation of these clues, that is all Dr.H has given us.
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On December 02 2010 01:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 01:07 ~OpZ~ wrote:
13 is zombie not brain surgeon. I don't want to discuss blues because they aren't important. What is important is finding scum. Now stop discussing them.
##Vote: kingjames01 I don't see why you are so against discussing blue roles. It is necessary for town to gather all the information we can. Right now, the only information we can get is through speculation of these clues, that is all Dr.H has given us.
It's faulty discussion. We have no proof about any role in the game. What is my role? My role is the "God." I have the power to decide what is restricted during the day phase of each day, and to possibly change it.
Tell me you would have guessed that as a role.
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On December 02 2010 01:22 annul wrote:
opz already has a "vote" on aidnai (through ROL) so you technically need to unvote first.
also, there are 14 votes up and the day isnt over, so whoever hasnt voted must be "the hammer"
its glasse. glasse is the hammer. which is lol because of what happened with him and his profile clues in haunted ;D but glasse is teh hammer.
also i have changed my mind about orgolove. the corruption clue (if he is being honest) was written in all 4 colors, making me think it is a random effect and does not signal town or mafia or blue or miller. makes me think it is a random effect that happens. so orgolove for now is off my hook. i still like the fishball kill though for reasons iterated previously
Last vote is Deconduo (Glasse isn't in the game >_<)
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On December 02 2010 01:22 annul wrote:
opz already has a "vote" on aidnai (through ROL) so you technically need to unvote first.
also, there are 14 votes up and the day isnt over, so whoever hasnt voted must be "the hammer"
its glasse. glasse is the hammer. which is lol because of what happened with him and his profile clues in haunted ;D but glasse is teh hammer.
also i have changed my mind about orgolove. the corruption clue (if he is being honest) was written in all 4 colors, making me think it is a random effect and does not signal town or mafia or blue or miller. makes me think it is a random effect that happens. so orgolove for now is off my hook. i still like the fishball kill though for reasons iterated previously
Voting rules:
1. Voting is to be done in this thread.
2. Please vote in the following format, to make it easier for everyone to read: [Vote]##Korynne. While the bolding in itself is not necessarily needed, it makes it easier on everybody's eyes. Please bold. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update votes whenever I get the chance.
3. You cannot autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon.
4. You may not vote for yourself.
Technically, no. I've never had to "unvote." And I never have "Unvoted" (except maybe once in Sengoku).
I will probably be voting South, to be honest. Actually, I will be. He's posted 4 times. He isn't here to even discuss, and South knows how to play.
I don't like the blue role discussion, because it's meaningless. You can guess all day long, but don't make that the center of discussion. We should be pressuring folks.
Checking this later.
How long is the day going to be? I didn't see when it started/ends. Lol, my bad guys.
Damn though, I gotta go get this home work fucking done, so I'll be around/afk/checking periodically.
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It's majority lynching, so it won't end if people keep switching. I guess I understand Decon not voting better if he is the hammer, but really that means we where one vote away from lynch. Sigh.
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What the heck guys. It's like I'm not actually here and people don't actually respond to my pointing out that people are voting aidnai for no reason.
I want everyone who voted Aidnai to give reasons why they did, or immediate FoS on them(even more so, at least)
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And why was this post ignored?
On December 01 2010 07:13 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:I am really lazy to actually do an analysis but its a bunch of classic mafia tells. I will show you. Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 06:53 aidnai wrote:On November 30 2010 06:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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The day will end when majority lynch has been reached. For the day to end a single person must have 8 votes on them to be lynched. The day begins now. How are we supposed to muster up 8 votes when there's three mafia? Seems a little crazy... A lot of mafia in thread to feign activity pose questions relating to the rules of the thread, it shows activity and is kind of constructive. The biggest thing though is saying how its impossible/hard for town. Its like hes trying to show hes part of the town, I think its generally done subconsciously by mafia because it seems like the right thing to say when it only seems like a townie thing to say from a mafia perspective. I know I have done that tell before in games, but have not been called out on it. Actually in insane mafia I did it when I attacked the legitimacy of DrH claiming he was "100% town" when that guilty medic died who if he protects mafia dies. I attacked the role and the rules, not him or his claim. Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 06:59 aidnai wrote:
Oh jeez nevermind, I seem a little crazy... I thought there was only 9 townies (12 total)... yet another reading comprehension fail.
Anyway, gl everyone, hope I don't get killed night one again -_- Fluff post, "I hope I don't get killed night one again" is something the mafia says a lot, then the next day "yay I am not dead" you know why? Because they were killing people the night before lawl. Its just classic zero content posting that paints a red picture. Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 08:24 aidnai wrote:On November 30 2010 07:53 ghrur wrote:Op, so PMs aren't allowed.  Darn. WELL... that kinda throws a wrench in my plans. Were your plans for this game similar to your plans for salem mafia? Ok, seriously though, we have so little information (no role list, no mayor, no roleclaiming)...Obviously number 1 priority is scumhunting, not some crazy town circle or whatever. But what do we talk about? There has to be some kind of discussion going to reveal scuminess. If everyone is just spamming, we'll never get anywhere. Personally, I think roleclaiming and forming a town circle should not be our focus right now. A town circle may form in a few days around a DT once some checks have been performed (assuming we have a DT). But to debate about it day 1 is silly, and if someone tries to take over the town and put themselves at the center of the town circle etc day 1, I'd be VERY suspicious of them. So, anyone else have thoughts on discussion points for day one? I like to call this the grand plan post, its the one I actually quoted while voting for him. Its basically "Alright guys we need to do this that and whatever the fuck else to do to win. Point A Point B Point C Remember behavioral analysis is important yadayada yada. So basically you made a huge post saying nothing except telling us to be productive? Mafia players like to do this because it makes it look like they are focusing on the big picture for the town, even though they are virtually saying nothing. In a normal game this is less of a tell on day one, but in a crazy game like this there is ALWAYS more to talk about then some stupid "grand plan" in this game he could talk about the weird day post and strange rules, his suspicions, then go into his rant, but he just says nothing. Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 10:56 aidnai wrote:On November 30 2010 10:18 deconduo wrote:
Not really enough posts to do an analysis or anything, so I think I'll go to bed. Hopefully nothing crazy happens while I sleep. On November 30 2010 10:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The man in the black hood found his axe. lol...looks like something crazy might happen anyway! But, I agree with deconduo. Not enough posts yet :/ It is pretty early in the game, but RoL must be active 'cause he's modding the other game right? Where you at RoL? On November 30 2010 09:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Another student got his Pharmocology degree.
Somebody has been born anew with the power of love.
It seems like there would have to be two lovers to start with, right? so is there a third now? Also, the axeman is definitely looking sinister. Almost certainly a mafia KP role of some sort, only question is: is it one/limited time use or nightly? Rehashing old points kind of, focus on the previous posts. Aidnai is the best candidate right now if not for any other reason than because I said so.
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On December 02 2010 02:02 Pandain wrote:
What the heck guys. It's like I'm not actually here and people don't actually respond to my pointing out that people are voting aidnai for no reason.
I want everyone who voted Aidnai to give reasons why they did, or immediate FoS on them(even more so, at least)
I voted Aidnai because RoL made some logical points that I haven't really seen towards anyone else's lynch. I am definitely open to ideas. Who would you suggest to lynch Pandain?
## unvote Aidnai
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On December 02 2010 02:13 ~OpZ~ wrote:And why was this post ignored? Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 07:13 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:I am really lazy to actually do an analysis but its a bunch of classic mafia tells. I will show you. On November 30 2010 06:53 aidnai wrote:On November 30 2010 06:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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The day will end when majority lynch has been reached. For the day to end a single person must have 8 votes on them to be lynched. The day begins now. How are we supposed to muster up 8 votes when there's three mafia? Seems a little crazy... A lot of mafia in thread to feign activity pose questions relating to the rules of the thread, it shows activity and is kind of constructive. The biggest thing though is saying how its impossible/hard for town. Its like hes trying to show hes part of the town, I think its generally done subconsciously by mafia because it seems like the right thing to say when it only seems like a townie thing to say from a mafia perspective. I know I have done that tell before in games, but have not been called out on it. Actually in insane mafia I did it when I attacked the legitimacy of DrH claiming he was "100% town" when that guilty medic died who if he protects mafia dies. I attacked the role and the rules, not him or his claim. On November 30 2010 06:59 aidnai wrote:
Oh jeez nevermind, I seem a little crazy... I thought there was only 9 townies (12 total)... yet another reading comprehension fail.
Anyway, gl everyone, hope I don't get killed night one again -_- Fluff post, "I hope I don't get killed night one again" is something the mafia says a lot, then the next day "yay I am not dead" you know why? Because they were killing people the night before lawl. Its just classic zero content posting that paints a red picture. On November 30 2010 08:24 aidnai wrote:On November 30 2010 07:53 ghrur wrote:Op, so PMs aren't allowed. Darn. WELL... that kinda throws a wrench in my plans. Were your plans for this game similar to your plans for salem mafia? Ok, seriously though, we have so little information (no role list, no mayor, no roleclaiming)...Obviously number 1 priority is scumhunting, not some crazy town circle or whatever. But what do we talk about? There has to be some kind of discussion going to reveal scuminess. If everyone is just spamming, we'll never get anywhere. Personally, I think roleclaiming and forming a town circle should not be our focus right now. A town circle may form in a few days around a DT once some checks have been performed (assuming we have a DT). But to debate about it day 1 is silly, and if someone tries to take over the town and put themselves at the center of the town circle etc day 1, I'd be VERY suspicious of them. So, anyone else have thoughts on discussion points for day one? I like to call this the grand plan post, its the one I actually quoted while voting for him. Its basically "Alright guys we need to do this that and whatever the fuck else to do to win. Point A Point B Point C Remember behavioral analysis is important yadayada yada. So basically you made a huge post saying nothing except telling us to be productive? Mafia players like to do this because it makes it look like they are focusing on the big picture for the town, even though they are virtually saying nothing. In a normal game this is less of a tell on day one, but in a crazy game like this there is ALWAYS more to talk about then some stupid "grand plan" in this game he could talk about the weird day post and strange rules, his suspicions, then go into his rant, but he just says nothing. On November 30 2010 10:56 aidnai wrote:On November 30 2010 10:18 deconduo wrote:
Not really enough posts to do an analysis or anything, so I think I'll go to bed. Hopefully nothing crazy happens while I sleep. On November 30 2010 10:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The man in the black hood found his axe. lol...looks like something crazy might happen anyway! But, I agree with deconduo. Not enough posts yet :/ It is pretty early in the game, but RoL must be active 'cause he's modding the other game right? Where you at RoL? On November 30 2010 09:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Another student got his Pharmocology degree.
Somebody has been born anew with the power of love.
It seems like there would have to be two lovers to start with, right? so is there a third now? Also, the axeman is definitely looking sinister. Almost certainly a mafia KP role of some sort, only question is: is it one/limited time use or nightly? Rehashing old points kind of, focus on the previous posts. Aidnai is the best candidate right now if not for any other reason than because I said so.
It wasn't ignored at all. It is the reason I voted Aidnai. But if you want to have discussion and pressure players, then all for it, let's have a discussion.
Also, you're claim at "God" (i'm assuming is a false claim, because Doc would smite you) is null. Doc has given us clues to the roles, so discussing them is not completely meaningless, as you seem to think it is.
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To be honest, my vote on Aidnai was because I was following the lead of a more experienced player (RoL) who seemed to know what he was talking about. Since I've been really busy for the last few hours, I hadn't gotten around to changing my vote, despite that being on my itinerary. I'll unvote for now, but I don't have any solid clues on who to vote for now, so for the time being, I shall abstain.
##Unvote Aidnai
God, it's gonna take a while to end the day.
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I've already explained why RoL is wrong.
Those aren't scum tells. Saying you hope you aren't killed does not indicate whether you are scum.
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Barundar: + Show Spoiler + Secondly I initially voted for Aidnai, because I saw a post which basically repeated itself "no town circles, no town circles" and "discuss don’t spam, discuss don’t spam, discuss don’t spam", which obviously is a contradiction in itself.
However my vote was by no means final, and I simply wanted his explanation. Instead we saw what I consider an attempt to blame fishball, and a ton of spam. This is what I consider the mafia panic response. If mafia had played it cool, my doubts would have been easily dismissed, and from what I can guess since he was weary as well, so would Aeres’. Aidnai’s defence came very late, and while it is decent, it came after the panic response.
Node: + Show Spoiler + I am very, very confident that Fishball isn't mafia. I'd be willing to bet my life in this game that orgolove's vote being removed is a sign that mafia is trying to frame him. As for not moving his vote off RoL, come on, surely everyone realizes there's no way scum would waste a vote like that in such a small majority lynch game -- it's pretty clear RoL/~OpZ~ isn't going to get lynched. I'm thinking that mafia is just doing their damndest to bandwagon an inactive townie.
I intend to follow through with RoL's plan, and am also willing to offer myself up for a lynch in the event that this doesn't work out.
##Vote aidnai
Jcarlsoniv: + Show Spoiler + RoL, your points make sense to me, and I would like to find out if these are indeed scum tells.
## Unvote Coag
## Vote Aidnai
Ghrur: + Show Spoiler + Hey look! RoL and I agree despite me never even reading his analyses. ^_^
Well, I guess we have a lynch candidate.
##Vote Aidnai
In all honestly I don’t like that reason either.
RoL: + Show Spoiler + Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 07:13 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:I am really lazy to actually do an analysis but its a bunch of classic mafia tells. I will show you. On November 30 2010 06:53 aidnai wrote:On November 30 2010 06:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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The day will end when majority lynch has been reached. For the day to end a single person must have 8 votes on them to be lynched. The day begins now. How are we supposed to muster up 8 votes when there's three mafia? Seems a little crazy... A lot of mafia in thread to feign activity pose questions relating to the rules of the thread, it shows activity and is kind of constructive. The biggest thing though is saying how its impossible/hard for town. Its like hes trying to show hes part of the town, I think its generally done subconsciously by mafia because it seems like the right thing to say when it only seems like a townie thing to say from a mafia perspective. I know I have done that tell before in games, but have not been called out on it. Actually in insane mafia I did it when I attacked the legitimacy of DrH claiming he was "100% town" when that guilty medic died who if he protects mafia dies. I attacked the role and the rules, not him or his claim. On November 30 2010 06:59 aidnai wrote:
Oh jeez nevermind, I seem a little crazy... I thought there was only 9 townies (12 total)... yet another reading comprehension fail.
Anyway, gl everyone, hope I don't get killed night one again -_- Fluff post, "I hope I don't get killed night one again" is something the mafia says a lot, then the next day "yay I am not dead" you know why? Because they were killing people the night before lawl. Its just classic zero content posting that paints a red picture. On November 30 2010 08:24 aidnai wrote:On November 30 2010 07:53 ghrur wrote:Op, so PMs aren't allowed. Darn. WELL... that kinda throws a wrench in my plans. Were your plans for this game similar to your plans for salem mafia? Ok, seriously though, we have so little information (no role list, no mayor, no roleclaiming)...Obviously number 1 priority is scumhunting, not some crazy town circle or whatever. But what do we talk about? There has to be some kind of discussion going to reveal scuminess. If everyone is just spamming, we'll never get anywhere. Personally, I think roleclaiming and forming a town circle should not be our focus right now. A town circle may form in a few days around a DT once some checks have been performed (assuming we have a DT). But to debate about it day 1 is silly, and if someone tries to take over the town and put themselves at the center of the town circle etc day 1, I'd be VERY suspicious of them. So, anyone else have thoughts on discussion points for day one? I like to call this the grand plan post, its the one I actually quoted while voting for him. Its basically "Alright guys we need to do this that and whatever the fuck else to do to win. Point A Point B Point C Remember behavioral analysis is important yadayada yada. So basically you made a huge post saying nothing except telling us to be productive? Mafia players like to do this because it makes it look like they are focusing on the big picture for the town, even though they are virtually saying nothing. In a normal game this is less of a tell on day one, but in a crazy game like this there is ALWAYS more to talk about then some stupid "grand plan" in this game he could talk about the weird day post and strange rules, his suspicions, then go into his rant, but he just says nothing. On November 30 2010 10:56 aidnai wrote:On November 30 2010 10:18 deconduo wrote:
Not really enough posts to do an analysis or anything, so I think I'll go to bed. Hopefully nothing crazy happens while I sleep. On November 30 2010 10:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The man in the black hood found his axe. lol...looks like something crazy might happen anyway! But, I agree with deconduo. Not enough posts yet :/ It is pretty early in the game, but RoL must be active 'cause he's modding the other game right? Where you at RoL? On November 30 2010 09:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Another student got his Pharmocology degree.
Somebody has been born anew with the power of love.
It seems like there would have to be two lovers to start with, right? so is there a third now? Also, the axeman is definitely looking sinister. Almost certainly a mafia KP role of some sort, only question is: is it one/limited time use or nightly? Rehashing old points kind of, focus on the previous posts. Aidnai is the best candidate right now if not for any other reason than because I said so.
Really, how can you miss this post? You even commented on it.
Aeres: + Show Spoiler + RoL's analysis of Aidnai seems convincing enough. For now, my vote will stay on him, but as usual, this vote is still tentative.
##Vote Aidnai
I find it suspicious that you can’t fail to read any of these posts by yourself, while you are completely certain of Aidnai.
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On December 02 2010 02:02 Pandain wrote:
What the heck guys. It's like I'm not actually here and people don't actually respond to my pointing out that people are voting aidnai for no reason.
I want everyone who voted Aidnai to give reasons why they did, or immediate FoS on them(even more so, at least)
Fuck your FOS
read the damn thread instead of throwing around wild accusations and threatening everyone with your bullshit
##vote Pandain
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I wanted to vote for annul, and so I did.
##Unvote RebirthOfLeGenD
##Vote: annul
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hahahaha, AND the OMGUS with no other explanation whatsoever.
seriously how is there a better target than this
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I did have one other explanation: I wanted to.
La la la la La~
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yeah, [almost] every single action anyone takes in these games has the implicit "i wanted to" attached to it.
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Totally dude. We should just kill them all.
The world would be a better place.
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On December 01 2010 22:17 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 15:38 orgolove wrote:
Sighhh
The PM mentioned that my vote was lost due to corruption, and I'm forced to choose someone else. Perhaps it's not a direct role of vote nullification, but something like "one random vote vs a mafia member is changed" etc. How bout this KJ: I believe "The system is corrupt" was a clue. Dr.H then said (or at least meant to say) "I think I have given a clue for each role. This being a clue would certainly explain orgo.
On December 02 2010 01:22 annul wrote:
the corruption clue (if he is being honest) was written in all 4 colors, making me think it is a random effect and does not signal town or mafia or blue or miller. makes me think it is a random effect that happens.
So, the word "corrupt" appears in both the PM and in DrH's clue. That cannot be a coincidence so we've discovered the Vote Nullifier.
The Vote Nullifier is DoctorHelvetica. As the mod, he is aligned with all colours and with none. He probably chooses a random voter and loses their vote as orgolove has described.
However, we cannot discount the fact that he says "The system is corrupt" and "I'm rooting for mafia" in the same post.
So, here's an updated list of roles:
Someone has a spirit inside them waiting to come out. (1)
Ability activated upon death.
Somebody fell in love.
Somebody has been born anew with the power of love. (2, maybe 3)
Lovers
A child is playing in the yard. (4)
Innocent Child
A man with a black hood stands in an alley.
The man in the black hood found his axe. (5)
Mason
Someone just got a pharmacology degree from Liquidia University.
Another student got his Pharmocology degree. (6,7)
Pharmacists/Nerfed Medics
A man begs in the street. (8)
Hobo?
Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies (9,10)
Sane/Insane detective
Somewhere on a wall the words are spraypainted. "Sometimes the day is over before you think"
Sometimes the hammer strikes back and it almost struck evil (11)
Ability to end day early?
Someone got caught speeding in a car. (12)
Speeder?
A guy has brains on his mind but doesn't know why. (13)
Zombie
Repetition the new epidemic of Liquidia? (14)
Possibly a disease carrier, a la Insane.
A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer (15)
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I'm not sure if this is the same person as number 11, but they both refer to a hammer. If so, then I'm missing a clue.
The system is corrupt. (16)
The jerk Riddler/Nullifier
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