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why
United States215 Posts
On December 14 2010 15:23 why wrote: This is what annul said on page 25. 1. Substitution roles. 2. Protection roles 3. Investigation roles. 4. Non-standard kill roles. 5. Non-Voldemort standard mafia kills. 6. Voldemort's personal kill. Nevermind misread question. Sorry. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
No worries. I missed that part of the post and that's good info to know =) I think it is fairly obvious that LSB has been lying through his teeth up until know. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
Look, LSB claims that both orgolove and LSB both contribute to mafia's KP LSB, under huge danger of being lynched, role claimed and also SHITS happened. Orgolove is being lynch because LSB claims he is mafia. If we lynch LSB: Mafia's KP will be reduce and we will find out if he is telling the truth. -If LSB is telling the truth, we lynch Orgolove tomorrow (result:2 mafia lynched) -If LSB is lying (result: 1 mafia lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused) If we lynch Orgolove: Mafia's KP might or might not be reduce depending on if LSB is lying or not. -If LSB is telling the truth, we SHOULD lynch LSB tomorrow unless we find another mafia tomorrow. -If LSB is lying (result: 1 townie lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused). If we want to reduce mafia's KP, we should Lynch LSB today and base tomorrow's lynch based on if LSB is lying or not. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On December 14 2010 15:22 jcarlsoniv wrote: So LSB would not know the result of RoL's check before RoL was killed. Sorry LSB. Caught you. Quoting myself because I feel it is extremely important everyone sees this post. Lynch LSB. He lied about the fact that RoL checked orgolove and that orgolove killed RoL, because RoL would not have gotten this information until the day, when he was already dead. | ||
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why
United States215 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On December 14 2010 15:31 LunarDestiny wrote: I DO NOT THINK THAT LYNCHING ORGOLOVE A IS GOOD CHOICE. Look, LSB claims that both orgolove and LSB both contribute to mafia's KP LSB, under huge danger of being lynched, role claimed and also SHITS happened. Orgolove is being lynch because LSB claims he is mafia. If we lynch LSB: Mafia's KP will be reduce and we will find out if he is telling the truth. -If LSB is telling the truth, we lynch Orgolove tomorrow (result:2 mafia lynched) -If LSB is lying (result: 1 mafia lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused) If we lynch Orgolove: Mafia's KP might or might not be reduce depending on if LSB is lying or not. -If LSB is telling the truth, we SHOULD lynch LSB tomorrow unless we find another mafia tomorrow. -If LSB is lying (result: 1 townie lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused). If we want to reduce mafia's KP, we should Lynch LSB today and base tomorrow's lynch based on if LSB is lying or not. not to mention lsb flips red then kenpachi is another sure red lynch | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On December 14 2010 15:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I AM NOT HARRY. be very careful negative name claims can be just as bad as positive ones. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6789 Posts
On December 14 2010 15:31 LunarDestiny wrote: I DO NOT THINK THAT LYNCHING ORGOLOVE A IS GOOD CHOICE. Look, LSB claims that both orgolove and LSB both contribute to mafia's KP LSB, under huge danger of being lynched, role claimed and also SHITS happened. Orgolove is being lynch because LSB claims he is mafia. If we lynch LSB: Mafia's KP will be reduce and we will find out if he is telling the truth. -If LSB is telling the truth, we lynch Orgolove tomorrow (result:2 mafia lynched) -If LSB is lying (result: 1 mafia lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused) If we lynch Orgolove: Mafia's KP might or might not be reduce depending on if LSB is lying or not. -If LSB is telling the truth, we SHOULD lynch LSB tomorrow unless we find another mafia tomorrow. -If LSB is lying (result: 1 townie lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused). If we want to reduce mafia's KP, we should Lynch LSB today and base tomorrow's lynch based on if LSB is lying or not. Yeah after thinking about it further this makes more sense. Especially since LSB couldn't have known what RoLs check had come back. I'm not going to change my vote from LSB at this point. Although I honestly don't think he's lying about the role block (unless the mafia had him claim to be roleblocked to make me look bad when I said I was roleblocked) at this point him being roleblocked or not is moot. Unless the mafia know who Harry is LSBs protection is a hit or miss thing anyway. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On December 14 2010 15:02 jcarlsoniv wrote: If his power has been blocked, would he still count towards Mafia KP? I wonder if annul could shed light on this. hypothetically speaking, if an ability exists that is being commonly referred to as "roleblock," and if said ability were used on a player contributing to mafia KP, that player would still contribute to mafia KP. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On December 14 2010 15:23 why wrote: This is what annul said on page 25. 1. Substitution roles. 2. Protection roles 3. Investigation roles. 4. Non-standard kill roles. 5. Non-Voldemort standard mafia kills. 6. Voldemort's personal kill. the six layer system is how i personally resolve conflicting roles when there is a question as to how roles will interact when used against each other. i do the entire calculation on my side, without revealing anything, in the order above. then, when day post comes, all actions occur simultaneously, with those in layer 1 happening "first", then layer 2, then layer 3, etc. so while, for example, a medic role (layer 2) would be resolved before a night vig (layer 4), they are revealed as a group as close to day post as possible. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
On December 14 2010 15:34 jcarlsoniv wrote: Quoting myself because I feel it is extremely important everyone sees this post. Lynch LSB. He lied about the fact that RoL checked orgolove and that orgolove killed RoL, because RoL would not have gotten this information until the day, when he was already dead. This makes sense. Good thing you asked when do the checks get returned to the user. Voting to lynch LSB - gives the most info out of everyone else in suspicion. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
if it remains this way, or close to, i will end the day early, when i wake up. who knows when that will be. | ||
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
Look. When LSB is lynched, his name, alignment, and full role PM will also be revealed. And you'll see what I've been pointing out from the start of this game - that he's a red. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
My question is, Kenpachi why are you so certain of him? | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On December 14 2010 15:31 LunarDestiny wrote: I DO NOT THINK THAT LYNCHING ORGOLOVE A IS GOOD CHOICE. Look, LSB claims that both orgolove and LSB both contribute to mafia's KP LSB, under huge danger of being lynched, role claimed and also SHITS happened. Orgolove is being lynch because LSB claims he is mafia. If we lynch LSB: Mafia's KP will be reduce and we will find out if he is telling the truth. -If LSB is telling the truth, we lynch Orgolove tomorrow (result:2 mafia lynched) -If LSB is lying (result: 1 mafia lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused) This most makes most sense out of ALL that was posted in the last 12 hours. I was going to post this exact same thing. This whole move of LSB REEKS of what Pandain did in Insane mafia. I would ask Pandain: Who would YOU vote for in this case?  LSB is clear scum. If he's a traitor or not, it doesn't really matter. Lynching him will tell us. And if we know 100% sure that he's traitor, then we get rid of orgolove, and possibly a few others. Whatever town does, just don't let LSB slip away like Pandain did. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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