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why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 17 2010 01:05 GMT
#986
On December 17 2010 09:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Why are we voting Kenpachi? I put a vote on him to see if he would talk but I think at this point it's obvious he is just bad. Don't lynch Kenpachi.

Why:
Extremely inactive
Claims Gryffindor despite Jcarls having a confirmed Gryffindor circle that he ISN'T part of

There isn't a strong lynch right now. I think the Death Eaters have been mostly silent. With the small amount of discussion that's happened in this thread I'm not surprised we have almost no lynch target.


To be clear, I am not claiming to be one of Jcarl's group. I am claiming to have a character that is Gryffindor that is NOT in Jcarl's group (there are 5 total Gryffindor members, 3 in Jcarl's group).
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 17 2010 06:05 GMT
#1014
My original intent with the Gryffindor claim was to confirm additional people for town. Cho Chang, who was modkilled, could have confirmed as could I if the 2nd Gryffindor had decided it was a good idea. It has since been pointed out that this was stupid and all I am really doing is giving additional info to mafia. Fair enough. As I said, I am new, I've just read several threads (that's where I got the breadcrumb idea from).

I've basically tried to be neutral and observant since I don't know what the hell I am doing and didn't want to get lynched. I've also tried to be as helpful as possible in the ways that I feel I can be. But whatever, if lack of other candidates is the problem, here are other options of people you could lynch instead of me!

Here's one: Kitaman27. Let's do it day by day.

D1:

On December 11 2010 12:48 kitaman27 wrote:
While a private vote is nice in theory, if the mafia wants to hide their vote, they're going to be able to do so. It will probably be pretty easy to tell who the popular bandwagons are going to be based on the thread activity so the private vote won't accomplish much. Now if only I remembered who any of these characters were >.<

By the way, any particular reason for no death post?


Here Kitaman repeats things about LSB's campaign that other people have already said. Accomplishes nothing.

On December 11 2010 12:53 kitaman27 wrote:
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As of day 1, there are 8 living players loyal to the Death Eaters, the Death Eater kill power is 3, and there are 10 living players with potential alternate victories remaining.


Also this bit of information seems pretty significant. Almost 1/3 of the players have alternate motives that we have to be suspicious of. We have to be aware that a player may act pro-town for much of the game and suddenly betray us to meet their own goals.


Says something everyone already knows.

On December 13 2010 03:08 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 13 2010 02:01 LSB wrote:
In all seriousness, Meapak will host Open elections and we should start scumhunting soon


Just to confirm, was this your campaign promise Meapak? I was under the impression that you wanted to target a mayor candidate. Mind clearing that up?


Asks Meapak a clarifying question.

These are all his posts D1. He doesn't make one useful contribution and generally stays under the radar, while having just enough of a post count to make sure he isn't targeted as an inactive.

N1:

I don't think I need to individually analyze these. There is not one opinion offered here. All he does is ask question after question about non-offensive topics. He doesn't even attempt to offer any insight. I've listed them below for convenience.

On December 14 2010 09:44 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 14 2010 09:41 orgolove wrote:
On December 14 2010 09:15 zeks wrote:
death eater 3 hits only 1 died
RoL must've got killed by 3rd party then

Then obviously 2 took a hit and survived ... hold off from claiming for now please.


Is this a slip? How do you know they had 3 hits on 3 different people? They could've stacked the hits on one person who happened to be bulletproof.

I think the people who got hit need to claim. If it's only one person, then we definitely have a red here.


Will those who are hit even be informed that they were hit?


On December 14 2010 09:59 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 14 2010 09:57 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 14 2010 09:51 Pandain wrote:
People who got hit are to claim.

There is no reason to not claim. Because right now its impossible for mafia to discern whether you were protected or have a veteran-like role. So it's best to do that.

Right now we know 1-2 people were hit, at least one who survived. By claiming ASAP not only do we force mafia to act NOW, but we get out that vital information.


How would this force mafia to act now?

Kinda sounds like scum who wants to know why his hit didn't go through...


Well someone confirming they were hit doesn't reveal why they weren't hit. Plus, it gives a confirmed townie to rally around.


On December 14 2010 10:05 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 14 2010 10:04 Mr.Zergling wrote:
On December 14 2010 09:13 LunarDestiny wrote:
On December 14 2010 09:10 Barundar wrote:
On December 14 2010 09:03 LunarDestiny wrote:
WTF. Beneather can't die. WTF

I'm sorry what?

Mr.zergling and I are in that group. We were planning to use his ability and if we catch something, we would reveal our group to town along with the information.

Mr.Zergling can confirm what I say when he gets on...


I would indeed like to confirm this, yes I would.


Can you also confirm that you group has an alternate win condition?

On December 14 2010 10:24 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 14 2010 10:09 annul wrote:
you can confirm or deny anything you want relating to your own abilities

i would advise the town to read my mod note for gilderoy's flip before placing 100% stock in what people tell you, as even they may be unaware of aspects of their role in the future



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mod note: was going to be told upon first use of any of the five abilities (or end of night 2) that he only actually has the first ability used, whatever it happens to be. i actually told him earlier than this because i realized the role wouldn't work otherwise.


So were the unlynchable and vet abilities considered to be the remaining two of the five abilities, which he needed to activate first?


D2:

On December 15 2010 00:28 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 14 2010 14:35 LSB wrote:

+ Show Spoiler [Role Claim] +
I am the Traitor. When Name Checked I am ****. When check my role shows up as "no role". When Alignment checked I am death eater. I also count as part of the death eaters when determining the KP.

I win with the town.

I was planning on giving myself up to the town once we killed a death eater to reduce the overall KP. But now it's too late.
Anyways. I do have one special role though. I can pick a member and determine with absolute certainty if he is mafia, and who he killed. This is because I accompany him to the kill and help him do his business.

Last night Orgolove hit RoL





To prevent later speculation, you accompanied orgolove last night, right? So RoL did not dt check him like you suggested earlier?


LSB is clearly going to be lynched by now. There's no disincentive for mafia to attack him. Of course, this isn't really an attack so much as a question of clarification. He seems to point out things LSB needs to take care of to make his story plausible.

On December 15 2010 01:57 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 15 2010 01:43 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On December 14 2010 13:51 LSB wrote:
All I'm saying is that RoL checked Orgolove before he died.
I did not do anything to encourage him to go that way.

Once I flip green, kill Orgolove. He probably has some kind of role that causes him to kill the dt that visits him.


This is not true. RoL was checking Opz before he died, not Orgolove.


there is still the possibility that he was trying to push orgolove without role claiming. If that was the case though, I would assume LSB would say so, rather than allow him to get caught up in a lie.

Meapak, did you inform LSB that the "scream" referred to a roleblocking ability against you or was LSB the first one to bring it up. If LSB was the first to mention it, I'm not sure how so many people can be accusing him of making it up, unless LSB was part of the team that caused the scream.


Here, again, he seems to be trying to appear to be attacking LSB while his wording instills doubt in his guilt. He also doesn't say anything new or insightful. The last line doesn't even really make sense, since that is one of the central tenets of LSB being mafia, and yet he uses the phrase "I'm not sure how people can be accusing him of making it up".

N2: Doesn't post.

D3:

Has an argument about whether Lunar's alternate win condition has to be scum aligned, which is useless and probably incorrect.

Then, he halfheartedly and jokingly calls out some inactives, with no follow-up. He also intersperses that with some more clarifying questions.

On December 17 2010 05:25 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 15 2010 05:28 Node wrote:
So I've been substituted in and I think I'm up-to-date with everything that's happened so far. Nothing left to do but jump into it! Voting LSB.


Only post in the thread. Not exactly jumping into it, now are we? Mind analyzing the person of your choice so we can at least have something out of you?


On December 17 2010 09:21 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 17 2010 09:17 tube wrote:
actually i just haven't posted because today is my birthday and i've been hanging with friends/ doing college apps

yeah


Happy Birthday!

So how come you haven't posted the previous 3 days? Its real tough to pick out the scum, when we have 1-2 posts to go by


Then, he votes for Pandain after posting the below:

On December 17 2010 11:02 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 17 2010 10:57 LunarDestiny wrote:
Pandain does look suspicious, but he is posting even less in pokemafia.


Well I would hope so, he is dead. Even before he died, he was a replacement for only like half a day, so that would probably explain why he didn't post much there.


It is really weird that Kitaman votes for Pandain after he defends him here. Notice that a bandwagon has already formed.

Looking back on Kitman's posts, there is very little substance to any of them. He has never staked out a claim or had a viewpoint on anything, while still posting just enough to keep him off people's radar. Even when he has stated an opinion, there was always already a significant bandwagon for that opinion. At least I've tried to be helpful.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 20 2010 03:57 GMT
#1321
We still have a lynch right? So it brings us from mylo to lylo I think.

Also, if the DT if mod-confirmed, the evidence against Dr. H is damning. Voting Dr. H.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 20 2010 04:38 GMT
#1326
Were you the one that claimed Kitaman? I guess it had to be

Btw, I'm pretty sure whether we can win or not (without kill avoidance) depends on how KP is reduced. Is there some standard for that (other than obviously Voldermort being 1 KP himself)?
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 23 2010 01:22 GMT
#1493
Sorry I acted so scummy! This was my first game, and I really had (have) no idea what to do. But after all the town circles revealed themselves (and made it clear they had access to VASTLY more information than I could hope for), I just tried to provide what information I could and let them do the analysis since I wouldn't trust me if I were them.

Good job guys!
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