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~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
December 12 2010 18:54 GMT
#381
Matter of fact, Pandain, where the hell are you?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Airbag
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan77 Posts
December 12 2010 18:55 GMT
#382
On December 13 2010 03:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2010 03:08 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 13 2010 02:01 LSB wrote:
In all seriousness, Meapak will host Open elections and we should start scumhunting soon


Just to confirm, was this your campaign promise Meapak? I was under the impression that you wanted to target a mayor candidate. Mind clearing that up?

Yes one of the mayor candidates would be my prefered target, however people need to think twice before they rush to lynch RoL or LSB, as I've outlined before I feel pretty uncomfortable lynching them because of possible third party outcomes. Deconduo was the person I was leaning to and since then people have spoken for and against his lynch. I'm not absolutely married to lynching a mayor candidate, I feel like there is a very high possibility there is a mafia amongst the mayor candidates but if the town finds a better candidate for first lynch or I find another candidate who the town agrees with then we'll lynch them.


I am more weirded out by your reluctance to lynch LSB. I think RoL is showing he might have more pro-town motives but LSB is playing only for his own benefit

if we let being scared of a village idiot dominate who we lynch then we're not getting anywhere in this game.
In an interstellar burst, I'm back to save the universe.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6785 Posts
December 12 2010 18:57 GMT
#383
On December 13 2010 03:52 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2010 03:37 Airbag wrote:
On December 13 2010 03:33 Beneather wrote:
If mafia doesn't run for MoM then what are they thinking of doing staying under the radar. There has to be a mafia running for MoM, LSB put a lot of attention on himself when he stated all his ideas such as private voting to keep mafia manipulating the votes by starting bandwagons. Then you guys stated that he could just manipulate the votes since no one else seeing it. Why don't he just post the results what each person had voted on this thread for all of us to confirm it after everyone has voted. Correct? But since LSB has dropped out we really do not have to worry about this.


But if he was mafia he could lie about the results of at least 8 players.

I think the fact that he is dropping out makes him more likely to be scum. If he drops out then he can start making other mayor candidates looking suspicious and use this excuse "oh i dropped out so im not scum why would scum not go all the way for mayor?" and then mafia will just control who we are suspecting


Yea, kinda looks like LSB is pulling a Pandain. Pandain was scum and ran for mayor hard in Insane mafia, but he dropped it cuz Dr. H was about to win. He railed Dr.H hard as scum afterwards too, even though he basically gave the mayor position away. Thats what I think LSB is up to.

Remeber in that game the mayor had real power, Dr. H had bodyguards. In this game once the first lynch is done the mayor has no more real power. If LSB decides to trash me after I win than it's kinda pointless because I'm just another townie at that point.
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Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 12 2010 19:31 GMT
#384
There is too many inactives in this game. Experienced players have barely posted, and others haven’t posted at all. At this rate, I fear we won’t have enough posts to analyze after a lynch, in case we don’t hit a mafia.

We need to put pressure on the invisible players.

Chaoser has not posted a single post, but is active in pokemafia
Pandain he is usually so spammy?
Radfield no game related posts
Kenpachi awol since announcing he was running for major
Youngmini is he even in the game?

+ Ghote got called out by Thegilaboy without responding.

Most obvious scum: Chaoser and Pandain

Where are you?
Bartundar
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 12 2010 19:55 GMT
#385
if pandain doesnt fucking post day1 im gonna make it my personal life goal this game to see his scummy ass lynched.
Airbag
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan77 Posts
December 12 2010 20:08 GMT
#386
On December 13 2010 04:55 Coagulation wrote:
if pandain doesnt fucking post day1 im gonna make it my personal life goal this game to see his scummy ass lynched.

why is not posting scummy?

couldnt he just be trying to avoid attention or maybe he is busy?
In an interstellar burst, I'm back to save the universe.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 12 2010 20:13 GMT
#387
#1 i know for a fact its not his style

#2 even if he is town not posting gives town 0 material to analyze and basically allows for mafia to lurk under the radar with minimal risk.


DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-12 20:15:36
December 12 2010 20:15 GMT
#388
lol inb4 kenpachi is lynched like always
RIP Aaliyah
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 12 2010 20:45 GMT
#389
On December 13 2010 05:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
lol inb4 kenpachi is lynched like always

FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU

anyways, i was tired yesterday and didnt feel like doing anything so i decided i wouldnt defend myself in Pokemafia or provide any insite on this Mayoral debate. I really dont have any insite on this mayoral debate.. also, im dead in pokemafia so ill be more active in this one!
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 12 2010 20:45 GMT
#390
and stop calling out inactive names
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 12 2010 20:49 GMT
#391
Okay, real reason why i ran for mayor:
Im bored :D
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 12 2010 20:53 GMT
#392

if anyone needs a good reason to not lynch kenpachi just go read ANY game hes ever been in.
Mafia love easy lynches and if hes town will no doubt bandwagon on him at some point in this game.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 12 2010 21:15 GMT
#393
On December 13 2010 04:31 Barundar wrote:
There is too many inactives in this game. Experienced players have barely posted, and others haven’t posted at all. At this rate, I fear we won’t have enough posts to analyze after a lynch, in case we don’t hit a mafia.

We need to put pressure on the invisible players.

Chaoser has not posted a single post, but is active in pokemafia
Pandain he is usually so spammy?
Radfield no game related posts
Kenpachi awol since announcing he was running for major
Youngmini is he even in the game?

+ Ghote got called out by Thegilaboy without responding.

Most obvious scum: Chaoser and Pandain

Where are you?

This is the modkill list
ghrur
youngminii
chaoser
why (I hope why comes back and vote, maybe annul will be lenient since why was pretty active)
Mr. Zergling

Since Chaoser and Youngmini are going to be modkilled, we don't have to worry about them.
Kenpachi probably is trying to not seem skummy since he got lynched day 1 in Pokemon. Since he acts scummy when he is town, we can't read him
Radfield- Now this is very interesting... Well... just see if he dies night one. Golden Rule of Radfield! If Radfield dies night one, he is town. If not he is mafia.

That leaves Pandain. And Pandain seems to have disappeared from the state of the earth. I don't know if we should lynch him for it... but it is pretty strange given that he has the "spammiest player award"
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 12 2010 21:16 GMT
#394
Hai everyone.
I'm pandain, I'm a panda. And I'm running for mayor.
Cause we pandas are like that, we procrastinate.
[image loading]

Furthormore I'm uncertain as to all the mayoral canidates.
LSB proposes a secret election, but why would you do that. I mean, it's far better just to have it in the open. That immediately throws me off.
RoL cause he changes views every time, from "LSB is just a little scummy" to "lsb is 100% scum" and more so.
Zeks because he has hardly contributed, despite contributing in the other game, and basically just makes loose accusations and poor reasoning("lsb dropped out once meepack said he would lynch another mayor canidate")
Meepack because I think he has an alternate win condition(just hunch really) and the fact that every person really is "defaulting" to him, and he has alot of votes, so immediately that throws me off.

Now it's important to realize mafia don't neccesarily need to run for mayor, since he doesn't have any special powers besides deciding day one lynch. But at the very least they will be pushing for someone to get lynched.

If elected, I will lynch IlovezJohn.


On December 11 2010 11:28 ilovejonn wrote:
i am a total noob to this game and have no clue whats going on... =[


edited this post, why even say this. Instead of asking questions, he just says he doesn't say anything because he's clueless, but still posts? Why doesn't he try to learn?


On December 11 2010 11:31 ilovejonn wrote:
i thought editting it here would be ok, besides that post wasnt suspicious anyways lol. and yes i read your post after i made my post LSB. maybe i will...



First off, the "besides that post wasn't suspicious anyway lol" just sounds like a mafia. I mean, instead of "oh, i didn't know" its, "Dw, that post didn't incriminate me." It's hard to explain how its a slip up but i hope you get it. Furthormore, still, doesn't contribute.


On December 12 2010 19:01 ilovejonn wrote:
Actually... i have no clue what is going and don't know the remaining time to vote and don't want to be mod killed so I just made a random vote.. but decided against that just now since there are some people that haven't voted anyways.


Doesn't pm someone, doesn't do anything, makes excuses for his vote. why isn't he actually contributing. It's obvious he's active, he's just not actually contributing, preffereing to be clueless and STAY clueless(convienant excuse later.)


On December 12 2010 19:01 ilovejonn wrote:
going on*

see what i did there, no editting, im learning :D


Still not contributing.



jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 12 2010 21:17 GMT
#395
On December 13 2010 05:08 Airbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2010 04:55 Coagulation wrote:
if pandain doesnt fucking post day1 im gonna make it my personal life goal this game to see his scummy ass lynched.

why is not posting scummy?

couldnt he just be trying to avoid attention or maybe he is busy?


Not posting is scummy for pretty much that exact reason: he wants to avoid attention. Mafia either want to stay out of the spotlight or blend into the town and appear anti-scum.

Although, it is very possible he is busy, I had a rather busy weekend myself. If he does nothing he'll be modkilled anyway. And, as it seems, Coag is gonna go find him and kill him in his sleep.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 12 2010 21:19 GMT
#396
Oh look, as soon as Pandain's name is mentioned, he pops up.

/sigh
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
December 12 2010 21:20 GMT
#397
On December 13 2010 01:54 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2010 01:41 Beneather wrote:
On December 12 2010 23:26 CubEdIn wrote:
On December 12 2010 17:52 aidnai wrote:
Meapak, you have my vote. We've spent a lot of time discussing the candidacy of LSB and RoL. What about deconduo? Here's his posts so far:

On December 12 2010 00:25 deconduo wrote:
I'm going to run for MoM as well. I'm not veteran, but I have played a few games. I'm not going to hold a vote for who to lynch, but I will listen to peoples advice and make my own decision. I feel this way I am pretty transparent, and its much more difficult for mafia to manipulate the lynch.

So vote for me


On December 12 2010 01:44 deconduo wrote:
On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:
[image loading]

Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time?


Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town.

There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them
+ Show Spoiler +
Slightly Embellished

Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory
And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield
TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one.


Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost
Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses.

Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win!


If you are gonna help us win anyway, why do we need you as mayor? Vote for me instead.




On December 12 2010 02:28 deconduo wrote:
On December 12 2010 02:05 Radfield wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:
[image loading]

Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time?


Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town.

There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them
+ Show Spoiler +
Slightly Embellished

Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory
And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield
TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one.


Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost
Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses.

Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win!



I died night 1 in 'And Then There Were None'..... And didn't town lose that game??


Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it went down to a 3-way between me LSB and you. I voted for you and you voted for me, then LSB hammered us both. We both died, LSB was last man standing and won.


On December 12 2010 03:04 deconduo wrote:
On December 12 2010 02:55 Pandain wrote:
what powers does mayor have?


Picks first day lynch, thats all. No bodyguards or anything.


On December 12 2010 05:44 deconduo wrote:
On December 12 2010 04:39 Radfield wrote:
On December 12 2010 02:28 deconduo wrote:
On December 12 2010 02:05 Radfield wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote:
[image loading]

Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time?


Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town.

There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them
+ Show Spoiler +
Slightly Embellished

Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory
And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield
TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one.


Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost
Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses.

Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win!



I died night 1 in 'And Then There Were None'..... And didn't town lose that game??


Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it went down to a 3-way between me LSB and you. I voted for you and you voted for me, then LSB hammered us both. We both died, LSB was last man standing and won.


That was Rastaban I think. You killed me night one, at the very least you sent me a PM apologizing



Yah my mistake. I got mixed up between you two. Was a fun game though


Announces candidacy, plugs candidacy, then gets side tracked for three posts--not much of a campaign imo. Yet he was able to garner votes from Jackal58, ilovejonn, and CubEdIn. Why did you three vote for such a non-chalant candidate? Especially Jackal58 and ilovejonn, who are both lurking pretty hard-core.


Just woke up, I was skimming through the thread and was just thinking of this.

Here's how it went:
1. He announced candidacy. I voted for him in the first 5-10mins, because I find the votes for Meapak suspicious.
2. Plenty of time later, a few more people vote for him. "out of the blue" so to say.
3. Meapak posts that he'll probably kill deconduo, because of his suspicious voters
4. ilovejonn switches his vote to himself

Now, please explain:
a) How are there "many votes out of the blue"? I explained mine, and then there were 2 more votes. He never got to be the first place or anything
b) Why would ilovejonn switch his post after Meapak threatened to lynch deconduo due to people voting for him out of the blue? I'm sorry but this looks like a very harsh slip-up from a newbie red. If deconduo dies and he flips red, then ilovejonn should die instantly.
Even if deconduo isn't red, it's still a very weird and scummish move in my eyes.

I must admit that I'm really scared of the alternative winning conditions. I get the reasoning behind meapak's idea, and I know we're short on alternatives, but I don't think there are enough clues to actually take down deconduo because of it.
Please think a bit better before you kill him.


I agree with you CubedIn very good analysis. From what you had said I am persuaded to think that deconduo may be a red. Using our first lynch on him would be a good start. If he turns out red which CubedIn stated we should lynch ilovejohn. This looks like the most reasonable suggestion we have gotten today. Not from "VIBES" but from reasonable logic.


Excuse me what are the reasons behind having me lynched again? Because 3 people voted for me? Cube gave good solid reasons, and the other 2 people are newbs that are probably sheeping or randomly voting. Meapaks bandwagon is MUCH more suspicious.

Your logic is all over the place. 'Decon might be red cos ilovejohn voted for him and ilovejohn is scummy. So lynch decon'. WTF, in that situation you suggest lynching ilovejohn.


This. I appreciate the thumbs up for good analysis, but I never pushed deconduo to be red. I just said that I don't think that the reason to lynch him is very solid, BUT that what ilovejonn did was kinda scummy. If I thought deconduo was red I wouldn't still have my vote on him.

And again, ilovejonn is probably a smurf laying low or a newb, but do to his vote-switch, it turns out it's most likely to be the latter. I'm not saying that's reason enough to lynch him though, but he definitely made my list of people to watch out for.

What I suggest is this:
1. Ignore the LSB/RoL war. Even if one of them (or both) is red, helping one is probably bad for the town. I'm thinking of things like village idiot, traitor, or any other of the alternative win conditions.
They could also both be red and ensure that by arguing so much they would lock down the night 1 lynch, which might be of value to them, or even get some of the townies to trust/confess their roles to them.

2. Have a level-headed guy for mayor. Meapak said that he's not married to killing deconduo. That's fine with me. If he's at least considering other people, and listening to people's votes, then he's a good candidate. Again, I'm not saying deconduo ISN'T red, but I don't want people to overlook anything. If after some analysis, dec seems to still be the best choice for meapak, then fine.

3. Lynch an inactive. And not the kind of inactive that never posted and will get modkilled anyway, but the ones that are trying to slip under the radar, just on the edge of inactivity. ilovejonn is one of the examples, but, again, I don't think it's enough to lynch him, but we can at least get these kind of people to talk more.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 12 2010 21:32 GMT
#398
i got to go until after votes are due and I can't make heads or tails of this election stuff so I'm just going to vote for zeks. He seems totally uninterested in having the MoM position and is willing to just turf the lynching responsibility back to town. At least the mafia won't be able to use the MoM position for evil and we'll be able to trace D1 voting patterns which are super important for later mafia detection.

I'm going to use my vote as a pressure to an inactive. I'm going to randomly pick Chaoser, because he's posting a lot in pokemafia and isn't posting here. That's pretty weird. I won't be able to come back in time to change my vote, so if he comes and posts hopefully everyone else will just back off him and my vote won't matter.

##VOTE: Chaoser

Here are some random other thoughts:

Does anyone see a character that might be aligned with Death Eaters but checks as town? Because both RoL and LSB seem to be begging for DT checks. I know someone said imperious curse and that makes me suspicious of both.

It's weird that airbag defended inactive players as not scummy. I thought the reasoning for pressuring inactive players was pretty obvious and well known.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 12 2010 21:37 GMT
#399
Does anyone see a character that might be aligned with Death Eaters but checks as town? Because both RoL and LSB seem to be begging for DT checks. I know someone said imperious curse and that makes me suspicious of both.

Snape seems like one of those characters.

Anyways, we should try to pick out the Death eaters in the list.


Lord Voldemort
Cho Chang
Bellatrix Lestrange
Gilderoy Lockhart
Cedric Diggory
Walden Macnair
Severus Snape
Albus Dumbledore
Poppy Pomfrey
Fenrir Greyback
Sibyl Trelawney
Firenze
Luna Lovegood
Ollivander
Draco Malfoy
Nymphadora Tonks
Ernie Prang
Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington
Mulciber
Parvati Patil
Padma Patil
Moaning Myrtle
Lucius Malfoy
Narcissa Malfoy
Violet
Harry Potter
Colin Creevey
Nicolas Flamel
Hermione Granger
Angelina Johnson
Roger Davies

That's only 5/8. Forgive my horrible Harry Potter Knowledge. Does anyone read the books much?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 12 2010 21:39 GMT
#400
If I recall correctly, Snape looked evil but was actually good. I could see him as a miller, but if he was he probably would have claimed already.
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