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In all seriousness, Meapak will host Open elections and we should start scumhunting soon
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
Everyone Chant after me! Mea-pak! Mea-pak! Mea-pak! Mea-pak! + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Airbag
Japan77 Posts
On December 13 2010 02:01 LSB wrote: I'm going to concede my candidacy in favor of Meapak Everyone Chant after me! Mea-pak! Mea-pak! Mea-pak! Mea-pak! + Show Spoiler + In all seriousness, Meapak will host Open elections and we should start scumhunting soon I don't like this. You are so intent on becoming mayor you even bothered to make a poster and now you drop out so easily when there is a little bit of heat on you? On top of that you say "meapak will host open elections" like it is a good thing but you criticise me saying "i'm attacking you without giving another option" when I was advocating that in the first place and it seemed like something you refused to even consider i still think we should lynch you | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
If I put my support behind a mayor, we can work on checking out . Likewise, as LunarDestiny said, an open decision is best. Although RoL's intentions are pretty green. If we lynch me and then lynch RoL for hitting a green, that's two lynches we just wasted. In addition, an open lynch allows for discussion from everyone, putting everyone in the spotlight, not just RoL. | ||
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Airbag
Japan77 Posts
On December 13 2010 02:13 LSB wrote: Airbag, you got to consider the time it takes to find a good scum. We can't have the lynch rushed. If I put my support behind a mayor, we can work on checking out . Likewise, as LunarDestiny said, an open decision is best. Although RoL's intentions are pretty green. If we lynch me and then lynch RoL for hitting a green, that's two lynches we just wasted. In addition, an open lynch allows for discussion from everyone, putting everyone in the spotlight, not just RoL. What is this sudden change of heart? After realizing no one will let you direct town suddenly your posting is becoming meek and submissive, you give in so easily to what the pressure is on you for. Maybe I'm wrong but that seems like something a mafia would do? We are allowed to discuss a lynch even if votes are sent in to you, that wasn't the issue, the issue was that if you are mafia it is a lot easier to manipulate and lie about who votes for who. You campaigned harder than anybody here and now you give up and speak out against ideas that were yours in the first place? what is that? | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
And Open Decision is when the town decides who to lynch. My plan was an example of Open Decision, but with a hidden vote. Kindof like how it is done in RAM. Between RoL, Deconduo, and Meapak, I trust Meapak to propose an open decision. RoL has this weird "i'm going to lynch LSB without any thought" which I've addressed Deconduo has been inactive, and who knows what he's going to do, and I don't want a sudden "Surprise! I'm mafia!" Do you truly want to spend more time on the Mayoral elections? | ||
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Airbag
Japan77 Posts
On December 13 2010 02:33 LSB wrote: I believe we have a misunderstanding what an Open Decision is. And Open Decision is when the town decides who to lynch. My plan was an example of Open Decision, but with a hidden vote. Kindof like how it is done in RAM. Between RoL, Deconduo, and Meapak, I trust Meapak to propose an open decision. RoL has this weird "i'm going to lynch LSB without any thought" which I've addressed Deconduo has been inactive, and who knows what he's going to do, and I don't want a sudden "Surprise! I'm mafia!" Do you truly want to spend more time on the Mayoral elections? I think RoL explained pretty well why he thinks you are scum. it was hardly "no thought" but why drop out unless you are scared of the pressure | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
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Airbag
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and thats not pressure? you say he wants u dead for no reason. i guess you didn't read his big post where he explained his reasons thoroughly. of course if u r scum you want everyone to think his attacks are bad or even non-existent instead of defending yourself properly or explaining what you're doing its a lot easier to just make someone else look bad | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On December 13 2010 02:01 LSB wrote: In all seriousness, Meapak will host Open elections and we should start scumhunting soon Just to confirm, was this your campaign promise Meapak? I was under the impression that you wanted to target a mayor candidate. Mind clearing that up? | ||
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zeks
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Airbag
Japan77 Posts
On December 13 2010 03:11 zeks wrote: Meapak says he's gonna lynch a mayor candidate and LSB drops out to support him lol maybe its a plot to get rol lynched? | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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Airbag
Japan77 Posts
On December 13 2010 03:25 LunarDestiny wrote: I have mixed feeling about lynching a mayor candidate. On one hand, we have some suspicious candidates who can't appeal to town and decide to drop out. On the other hand, mafia have less incentives to be mayor in this game since mayor does not have basic protections like having bodyguards and not being able to be rolechecked. I think a mafia will run for MoM and use it to manipulate the towns trust. Even if it is not a great power they can make people want to follow and let them be a leader it is clear to me that was LSB's intent he comes off as an obvious mafia to me. i guess me and RoL are crazy? | ||
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Beneather
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On December 13 2010 03:27 Airbag wrote: I think a mafia will run for MoM and use it to manipulate the towns trust. Even if it is not a great power they can make people want to follow and let them be a leader it is clear to me that was LSB's intent he comes off as an obvious mafia to me. i guess me and RoL are crazy? No sir, I feel you. I actually had a decent post lined up against LSB, but then I figured it was still Day 1, and he's had next to no support. So I'm iffy on him, and chose not to post it, but I'm perfectly fine lynching him, and in fact, will still vote for whoever is for lynching LSB. Most suspicious person we have... besides possibly youngminii. Did he drop from the game Annul? | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
1. He is an experience player but he hasn't say anything very useful to town. 2. He ran for mayor because his original plan was having anyone to name claim. It is a very good plan, but it was banned shortly after. 3. I didn't consider that LSB was trying to rolefish. It can very well be a slip up. | ||
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Airbag
Japan77 Posts
On December 13 2010 03:33 Beneather wrote: If mafia doesn't run for MoM then what are they thinking of doing staying under the radar. There has to be a mafia running for MoM, LSB put a lot of attention on himself when he stated all his ideas such as private voting to keep mafia manipulating the votes by starting bandwagons. Then you guys stated that he could just manipulate the votes since no one else seeing it. Why don't he just post the results what each person had voted on this thread for all of us to confirm it after everyone has voted. Correct? But since LSB has dropped out we really do not have to worry about this. But if he was mafia he could lie about the results of at least 8 players. I think the fact that he is dropping out makes him more likely to be scum. If he drops out then he can start making other mayor candidates looking suspicious and use this excuse "oh i dropped out so im not scum why would scum not go all the way for mayor?" and then mafia will just control who we are suspecting | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
1) I've always been open about how I will be accountable for not manipulating the vote On December 11 2010 11:38 LSB wrote: What will I do as mayor I will hold a secrete ballot for the first elections. And I will post who voted for who afterwards. You know, mafia loves to redirect the first election? This will make it harder for them to. This is important for many reasons. Say we're going to lynch inactives. One is mafia, one is town Mafia: "Yo! Lets bandwagon this guy!" Town: "We'll their both inactive so I guess I'll vote for the town" Annul: "You guys lynched a townie. Sheep =P" Now. Imagine my system LSB: "Person A and Person B are inactive, please send me pm for who you vote for" Town sends PMs. Each person has about a 50% chance of dieng. Mafia doesn't have that much influence. Annul: "This person is mafia! Woot Woot!" In addition, I will not be able to influence the vote because I will post who voted for who afterwards. So if you see something messed up, you can call me out of it. (Of course, this also means that we got a great way to catch mafia). On December 11 2010 12:10 LSB wrote: Firstly, vote manipulation is always done by the mafia. In public it can be done easily. All the mafia has to do is make sure they either vote for other people or push a townie bandwagon. In private, they won't be able to predict who is going to be lynched. Secondly, if I'm mafia, you can examine the votes a wee bit more carefully. This way you'll have a better indication of who is mafia. See? Even if I'm mafia it's better for you! Thirdly, I'll accept someone to be the 'auditor' who also recieves votes On December 11 2010 12:47 LSB wrote: How about 2nd place in the mayor elections become with auditor? Here's how I imagine it would work. I would compare the votes that I get with the Auditor. If there is any discrepancies we can release it to the public/point out why. It further ensures the integrity of the private voting elections. Why private vote? Public vote is easily manipulated by the mafia. You will still be getting the same information, just our Day 1 vote will have a higher chance of hitting a mafia. + Show Spoiler + If the town really really wants it, I can host alternative forms of votes. Normal Voting Reasoned Voting- You must give a good reason for your vote for it to be counted. Runoff Elections- This way we get more information about people's voting patterns 2) I've Encouraged discussion on who to lynch. I've always proposed that I will follow town opinion. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On December 13 2010 03:37 Airbag wrote: But if he was mafia he could lie about the results of at least 8 players. I think the fact that he is dropping out makes him more likely to be scum. If he drops out then he can start making other mayor candidates looking suspicious and use this excuse "oh i dropped out so im not scum why would scum not go all the way for mayor?" and then mafia will just control who we are suspecting Yea, kinda looks like LSB is pulling a Pandain. Pandain was scum and ran for mayor hard in Insane mafia, but he dropped it cuz Dr. H was about to win. He railed Dr.H hard as scum afterwards too, even though he basically gave the mayor position away. Thats what I think LSB is up to. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6789 Posts
On December 13 2010 03:08 kitaman27 wrote: Just to confirm, was this your campaign promise Meapak? I was under the impression that you wanted to target a mayor candidate. Mind clearing that up? Yes one of the mayor candidates would be my prefered target, however people need to think twice before they rush to lynch RoL or LSB, as I've outlined before I feel pretty uncomfortable lynching them because of possible third party outcomes. Deconduo was the person I was leaning to and since then people have spoken for and against his lynch. I'm not absolutely married to lynching a mayor candidate, I feel like there is a very high possibility there is a mafia amongst the mayor candidates but if the town finds a better candidate for first lynch or I find another candidate who the town agrees with then we'll lynch them. | ||
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