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SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 26 2010 20:41 GMT
#241
I encourage people to reread their roles and ask about changes because I've noticed and asked (a) change(s) regarding certain role(s). I will not post the one(s) I've found to avoid revealing my role in the case where the information I've obtained is only available to the person with the role.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 26 2010 20:42 GMT
#242
Hey all. Let's get this witch hunt rolling.

On November 12 2010 11:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The voting cycle will be the TL standard 48 hour days, 24 hour nights. The cycles will end/begin at 11 PM EDT (8 PM PDT) (12 AM the next day KST).


On November 12 2010 11:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The official time that cycles will begin/end at is MIDNIGHT EDT.


Would the mods mind clarifying this?

As Protactinium stated in the post above, don't let yourself get modkilled. A dead townie is even worse than an inactive townie. If you think there might be even a slight chance you won't be able to get your vote in, than put in a placeholder vote. When you forget to vote because you have other things going on, you are ruining the game for others. Unless you are a witch of course, then we don't mind.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
November 26 2010 20:50 GMT
#243
On November 27 2010 05:25 Protactinium wrote:


“I enjoy modkills, please, let me use bears (Yes, I modkill with bears. Deal with it.)”




Hah, I just noticed. This is from my mafia OP.
SUNSFANNED
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
November 26 2010 20:56 GMT
#244
And so far, nobody has really shown themselves to be either particularly pro or anti-town. For now, I'm voting myself for mayor as a placeholder (although I actually might try to run, depending on the other candidates). I'm starting to think it might be just a great idea to just start throwing votes-for-lynch on the nonspeakers, try and get them to talk. If we can't find anyone, this game is large enough for us to get away with lynching an inactive purely based on their inactivity, at least the first day. To that end, I'm voting that the mayor should lynch georgeclooney. Get to talkin' boy.
SUNSFANNED
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
November 26 2010 20:58 GMT
#245
Oh wait. Dammit, no mayor. Goddammit, DTA, this is what I get for just reading posts and not the OP.
SUNSFANNED
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 26 2010 21:17 GMT
#246
On November 27 2010 05:50 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 05:25 Protactinium wrote:


“I enjoy modkills, please, let me use bears (Yes, I modkill with bears. Deal with it.)”




Hah, I just noticed. This is from my mafia OP.


I like drop bears, what can I say
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 26 2010 21:18 GMT
#247
On November 27 2010 05:42 kitaman27 wrote:
Hey all. Let's get this witch hunt rolling.

Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 11:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The voting cycle will be the TL standard 48 hour days, 24 hour nights. The cycles will end/begin at 11 PM EDT (8 PM PDT) (12 AM the next day KST).


Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 11:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The official time that cycles will begin/end at is MIDNIGHT EDT.


Would the mods mind clarifying this?

As Protactinium stated in the post above, don't let yourself get modkilled. A dead townie is even worse than an inactive townie. If you think there might be even a slight chance you won't be able to get your vote in, than put in a placeholder vote. When you forget to vote because you have other things going on, you are ruining the game for others. Unless you are a witch of course, then we don't mind.


Whooops, my bad. I will edit the OP now, but it will actually be 8pm est since RoL started the game a few hours earlier than I had intended.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 26 2010 21:32 GMT
#248
On November 27 2010 05:56 BrownBear wrote:
And so far, nobody has really shown themselves to be either particularly pro or anti-town. For now, I'm voting myself for mayor as a placeholder (although I actually might try to run, depending on the other candidates). I'm starting to think it might be just a great idea to just start throwing votes-for-lynch on the nonspeakers, try and get them to talk. If we can't find anyone, this game is large enough for us to get away with lynching an inactive purely based on their inactivity, at least the first day. To that end, I'm voting that the mayor should lynch georgeclooney. Get to talkin' boy.


but he's a celebrity D:
RIP Aaliyah
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 26 2010 21:40 GMT
#249
On November 27 2010 06:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 05:56 BrownBear wrote:
And so far, nobody has really shown themselves to be either particularly pro or anti-town. For now, I'm voting myself for mayor as a placeholder (although I actually might try to run, depending on the other candidates). I'm starting to think it might be just a great idea to just start throwing votes-for-lynch on the nonspeakers, try and get them to talk. If we can't find anyone, this game is large enough for us to get away with lynching an inactive purely based on their inactivity, at least the first day. To that end, I'm voting that the mayor should lynch georgeclooney. Get to talkin' boy.


but he's a celebrity D:


He makes a good point. We should lynch DoctorHelvetica due to his non-celebrity status.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 26 2010 21:45 GMT
#250
On November 27 2010 06:40 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 06:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 27 2010 05:56 BrownBear wrote:
And so far, nobody has really shown themselves to be either particularly pro or anti-town. For now, I'm voting myself for mayor as a placeholder (although I actually might try to run, depending on the other candidates). I'm starting to think it might be just a great idea to just start throwing votes-for-lynch on the nonspeakers, try and get them to talk. If we can't find anyone, this game is large enough for us to get away with lynching an inactive purely based on their inactivity, at least the first day. To that end, I'm voting that the mayor should lynch georgeclooney. Get to talkin' boy.


but he's a celebrity D:


He makes a good point. We should lynch DoctorHelvetica due to his non-celebrity status.

if u look at my profile you can see i am actually thom yorke, a famous british musician

we can decide if we're lynching an inactive later, because we don't know that no one will post scummily yet and that there will be no discussion. if we do lynch an inactive it should be a newer player and it should be RNG'd so that the mafia can't force us to pick a townie inactive v.s a mafia inactive

i want to talk about how we best form a town circle and prevent godfather from infecting it too badly
RIP Aaliyah
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
November 26 2010 21:49 GMT
#251
On November 27 2010 06:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 06:40 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 27 2010 06:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 27 2010 05:56 BrownBear wrote:
And so far, nobody has really shown themselves to be either particularly pro or anti-town. For now, I'm voting myself for mayor as a placeholder (although I actually might try to run, depending on the other candidates). I'm starting to think it might be just a great idea to just start throwing votes-for-lynch on the nonspeakers, try and get them to talk. If we can't find anyone, this game is large enough for us to get away with lynching an inactive purely based on their inactivity, at least the first day. To that end, I'm voting that the mayor should lynch georgeclooney. Get to talkin' boy.


but he's a celebrity D:


He makes a good point. We should lynch DoctorHelvetica due to his non-celebrity status.

if u look at my profile you can see i am actually thom yorke, a famous british musician

we can decide if we're lynching an inactive later, because we don't know that no one will post scummily yet and that there will be no discussion. if we do lynch an inactive it should be a newer player and it should be RNG'd so that the mafia can't force us to pick a townie inactive v.s a mafia inactive

i want to talk about how we best form a town circle and prevent godfather from infecting it too badly

I'm Joe Pesci, who beats the shit out of Thom Yorke and George Clooney at the same time! /flex

I'm a bit confused as to what we should be doing at this point. The majority of players involved haven't even posted yet, and we don't have anything to discuss, really, aside from town circles, Medic priorities, etc... but shouldn't we wait for everyone to be present to talk about these things?

I wouldn't say I'm impatient about this, but Day 1 seems to be a brick wall for discussion most of the time if there isn't a Mayor. = /
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 26 2010 21:51 GMT
#252
Day one lynches are always tough. I agree that we should lynch a lurker, but as this is more of a learning game I think we should be looking at the more experienced players who aren't posting as much as they should be. New players are going to be quiet anyway, so we should be encouraging them rather that threatening with the big lynch stick. It would be pretty shitty to lynch a newbie day one.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 26 2010 21:51 GMT
#253
On November 27 2010 06:49 Aeres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 06:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 27 2010 06:40 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 27 2010 06:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 27 2010 05:56 BrownBear wrote:
And so far, nobody has really shown themselves to be either particularly pro or anti-town. For now, I'm voting myself for mayor as a placeholder (although I actually might try to run, depending on the other candidates). I'm starting to think it might be just a great idea to just start throwing votes-for-lynch on the nonspeakers, try and get them to talk. If we can't find anyone, this game is large enough for us to get away with lynching an inactive purely based on their inactivity, at least the first day. To that end, I'm voting that the mayor should lynch georgeclooney. Get to talkin' boy.


but he's a celebrity D:


He makes a good point. We should lynch DoctorHelvetica due to his non-celebrity status.

if u look at my profile you can see i am actually thom yorke, a famous british musician

we can decide if we're lynching an inactive later, because we don't know that no one will post scummily yet and that there will be no discussion. if we do lynch an inactive it should be a newer player and it should be RNG'd so that the mafia can't force us to pick a townie inactive v.s a mafia inactive

i want to talk about how we best form a town circle and prevent godfather from infecting it too badly

I'm Joe Pesci, who beats the shit out of Thom Yorke and George Clooney at the same time! /flex

I'm a bit confused as to what we should be doing at this point. The majority of players involved haven't even posted yet, and we don't have anything to discuss, really, aside from town circles, Medic priorities, etc... but shouldn't we wait for everyone to be present to talk about these things?

I wouldn't say I'm impatient about this, but Day 1 seems to be a brick wall for discussion most of the time if there isn't a Mayor. = /


So do you want us to do a roll call?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
November 26 2010 21:53 GMT
#254
On November 27 2010 06:51 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 06:49 Aeres wrote:
On November 27 2010 06:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 27 2010 06:40 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 27 2010 06:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 27 2010 05:56 BrownBear wrote:
And so far, nobody has really shown themselves to be either particularly pro or anti-town. For now, I'm voting myself for mayor as a placeholder (although I actually might try to run, depending on the other candidates). I'm starting to think it might be just a great idea to just start throwing votes-for-lynch on the nonspeakers, try and get them to talk. If we can't find anyone, this game is large enough for us to get away with lynching an inactive purely based on their inactivity, at least the first day. To that end, I'm voting that the mayor should lynch georgeclooney. Get to talkin' boy.


but he's a celebrity D:


He makes a good point. We should lynch DoctorHelvetica due to his non-celebrity status.

if u look at my profile you can see i am actually thom yorke, a famous british musician

we can decide if we're lynching an inactive later, because we don't know that no one will post scummily yet and that there will be no discussion. if we do lynch an inactive it should be a newer player and it should be RNG'd so that the mafia can't force us to pick a townie inactive v.s a mafia inactive

i want to talk about how we best form a town circle and prevent godfather from infecting it too badly

I'm Joe Pesci, who beats the shit out of Thom Yorke and George Clooney at the same time! /flex

I'm a bit confused as to what we should be doing at this point. The majority of players involved haven't even posted yet, and we don't have anything to discuss, really, aside from town circles, Medic priorities, etc... but shouldn't we wait for everyone to be present to talk about these things?

I wouldn't say I'm impatient about this, but Day 1 seems to be a brick wall for discussion most of the time if there isn't a Mayor. = /


So do you want us to do a roll call?

No, of course not. I just meant waiting a couple hours or so so there's a greater chance of more people being here.

But what do I know? I'm merely the captain of a sunken ship...
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 26 2010 21:59 GMT
#255
Alright so town circle stuff, here is what I know:

I know one player who is almost certainly a confirmed medic
I know one player who is either a blue role or a red role (not green)


So the first player, I'm pretty sure people can trust. If I reveal his name he will be a prime suspect for mafia protection. If he is willing, my current proposition is to have him protect me like a bodyguard indefinitely and then I can coordinate the town network but there are problems with that:

-you guys have to trust me, but I think I proved my leadership prowess in Insane Mafia and I promise to improve as town in this game (if youngminii doesn't shoot me)
-mafia can double, even triple hits on me

The other possibility is if a DT checks someone who is newer/less experienced (thus an unlikely elder candidate) and finds them to be a role that a godfather would not likely choose, they can tell that person that they checked them and found them safe and then start a network through that person without revealing their name in the thread. This would create a kinda weird assassin in the palace type situation where not everyone necessarily knows the name of the confirmed townie and only people who seem really pro-town get the information

if mafia never get the information it might start to get obvious by the way they post in the thread if it is steered correctly

i.e: someone in the pro-town circle starts fake bandwagon on confirmed town player
-several mafia jump on it
-town reveals the player in question was our confirmed town guy
-reverse bandwagon onto mafia

but again that depends on having a very small and limited circle which has not been penetrated by mafia.

just some ideas floating around in my mind.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 26 2010 22:04 GMT
#256
On November 27 2010 06:53 Aeres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 06:51 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On November 27 2010 06:49 Aeres wrote:
On November 27 2010 06:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 27 2010 06:40 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 27 2010 06:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 27 2010 05:56 BrownBear wrote:
And so far, nobody has really shown themselves to be either particularly pro or anti-town. For now, I'm voting myself for mayor as a placeholder (although I actually might try to run, depending on the other candidates). I'm starting to think it might be just a great idea to just start throwing votes-for-lynch on the nonspeakers, try and get them to talk. If we can't find anyone, this game is large enough for us to get away with lynching an inactive purely based on their inactivity, at least the first day. To that end, I'm voting that the mayor should lynch georgeclooney. Get to talkin' boy.


but he's a celebrity D:


He makes a good point. We should lynch DoctorHelvetica due to his non-celebrity status.

if u look at my profile you can see i am actually thom yorke, a famous british musician

we can decide if we're lynching an inactive later, because we don't know that no one will post scummily yet and that there will be no discussion. if we do lynch an inactive it should be a newer player and it should be RNG'd so that the mafia can't force us to pick a townie inactive v.s a mafia inactive

i want to talk about how we best form a town circle and prevent godfather from infecting it too badly

I'm Joe Pesci, who beats the shit out of Thom Yorke and George Clooney at the same time! /flex

I'm a bit confused as to what we should be doing at this point. The majority of players involved haven't even posted yet, and we don't have anything to discuss, really, aside from town circles, Medic priorities, etc... but shouldn't we wait for everyone to be present to talk about these things?

I wouldn't say I'm impatient about this, but Day 1 seems to be a brick wall for discussion most of the time if there isn't a Mayor. = /


So do you want us to do a roll call?

No, of course not. I just meant waiting a couple hours or so so there's a greater chance of more people being here.

But what do I know? I'm merely the captain of a sunken ship...

no more fake roleclaims in this game aeres!
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 26 2010 22:05 GMT
#257
btw the only person who should fakeclaim is the veteran to soak up hits

if he claims DT or medic mafia will waste a hit on him. keep that in mind later in the game (don't fakeclaim day 1 lol it's 2 obvious try to make it seem real like u have some shit to say.)
RIP Aaliyah
EsbenPM
Profile Joined April 2006
Denmark364 Posts
November 26 2010 22:21 GMT
#258
On November 27 2010 06:49 Aeres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 06:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 27 2010 06:40 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 27 2010 06:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 27 2010 05:56 BrownBear wrote:
And so far, nobody has really shown themselves to be either particularly pro or anti-town. For now, I'm voting myself for mayor as a placeholder (although I actually might try to run, depending on the other candidates). I'm starting to think it might be just a great idea to just start throwing votes-for-lynch on the nonspeakers, try and get them to talk. If we can't find anyone, this game is large enough for us to get away with lynching an inactive purely based on their inactivity, at least the first day. To that end, I'm voting that the mayor should lynch georgeclooney. Get to talkin' boy.


but he's a celebrity D:


He makes a good point. We should lynch DoctorHelvetica due to his non-celebrity status.

if u look at my profile you can see i am actually thom yorke, a famous british musician

we can decide if we're lynching an inactive later, because we don't know that no one will post scummily yet and that there will be no discussion. if we do lynch an inactive it should be a newer player and it should be RNG'd so that the mafia can't force us to pick a townie inactive v.s a mafia inactive

i want to talk about how we best form a town circle and prevent godfather from infecting it too badly

I'm Joe Pesci, who beats the shit out of Thom Yorke and George Clooney at the same time! /flex

I'm a bit confused as to what we should be doing at this point. The majority of players involved haven't even posted yet, and we don't have anything to discuss, really, aside from town circles, Medic priorities, etc... but shouldn't we wait for everyone to be present to talk about these things?

I wouldn't say I'm impatient about this, but Day 1 seems to be a brick wall for discussion most of the time if there isn't a Mayor. = /


I have the same feeling, i have just been staring at the thread not really thinking of anything constructive to post.

However with the game starting on a holiday in the US i can understand how some people are still absent, but this many people is quite concerning.

As for town circle creating it without having the elder infiltrate is going to be quite tricky. Since first of all people wont be notified if they are hit and medics aren't notified if they save someone. So we cant luck out and get a confirmed townie this way by having the medic and the person taking the hit claim.

The best solution would probably be to get a confirmed townie, and realizing that can be quite tricky (Due to the GF), and the only way to get 100% confirmed townies is by having DTs roleclaim which in general is a really bad idea.

The only alternative way i can think of now is to have 3 way communication system. Where basically the blues will communicate to a selected coordinator through a person they trust. This hides the important roles identity from the guy organizing everything, but at the same time more people gets knowledge of who the blues are which is a major drawback. And people will be able to fake claim communicating on behalf of a blue which might screw everything up,


I guess in short i'm not the biggest fan of town circles, at least as long as the GF is alive since i have a really hard time thinking of good ways to organize a town circle without risking the GF becomming a confirmed townie (and we just have to look at two of the most recent games haunted and insane to see how dangerous that is).


Hi
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 26 2010 22:24 GMT
#259
Doc, how can you be sure that the information you have thus far concerning the town circle is accurate? Have they claimed to you? How can you tell that one is almost certainly medic and the other is blue or red?
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EsbenPM
Profile Joined April 2006
Denmark364 Posts
November 26 2010 22:32 GMT
#260
Hmm, yeah after reading Dr.H's post his ideas are a lot better then mine, and i think that's a better direction to be looking at.

However i'm still not quite sure how to get a confirmed townie without having a DT roleclaiming. Because otherwise mafia/witches can just create a fake town circle arround the GF and include a few townies in it and from there on manipulate their way to victory.

But as i said i like your ideas better then mine, but i guess i'm just too paranoid of having the GF infiltrate stuff from having followed insane and haunted mafia from the sideline
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