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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
November 06 2010 00:57 GMT
#61
I'm starting to think that cube is the assasin, I hid some things in my code that a real body guard would recognize but I think he missed them...
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 06 2010 00:57 GMT
#62
I've decided talking in code breaks the game. There is to be no discussion of code and no use of role pm's or anything like that as a decoder/fishing tactic. I consider it cheating. This is a psychological game not a test for wannabe codebreakers.
RIP Aaliyah
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
November 06 2010 01:09 GMT
#63
Right. Do you think I even tried your code? Why would I?

And also, I think you're overlooking the fact that the other people didn't really bother to try/answer either. And the in-actives.

I suggest we lynch you for almost revealing the king and accusing me after claiming I'm the king, so you could get your free-confirmation.

##Vote Meapak_Ziphh

Booya.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
November 06 2010 01:12 GMT
#64
You make a really strong case there cube, I think I'm gonna bandwagon on this one.

## Vote Meapak_Ziphh
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
November 06 2010 01:20 GMT
#65
Well you're as good a guess as any. Most lynches will be fairly random in this game, so might as well start with the guy that jeopardized the king the most, no?

ima gonna go sleep forealz now!
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 06 2010 01:26 GMT
#66
meapak please edit the code out of your post on page 3, thanks
RIP Aaliyah
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
November 06 2010 01:38 GMT
#67
On November 06 2010 10:20 CubEdIn wrote:
Well you're as good a guess as any. Most lynches will be fairly random in this game, so might as well start with the guy that jeopardized the king the most, no?

ima gonna go sleep forealz now!

In order to jeopardize him I have to know who he is right?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 06 2010 01:56 GMT
#68
So uhh, let's get this baby rolling.

##Vote Meapak_Ziphh
lalala
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
November 06 2010 03:43 GMT
#69
Aww just as I was all ready with the ciper and stuff, this comes up.

Btw coagulation, you still have the code in your quote -_-


I doubt Meapak is the assassin, as I don't think an assassin would start up so soon with the idea of an encrypted message based on the King's name.

But I further doubt Meapak's story about his 2 role PMs. care to explain?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
November 06 2010 03:55 GMT
#70
CubedIn's arguments to denounce Meapak is invalid. What he's done, at best, was to try to create an internal communications system among bodyguards. At worst, he still managed to confuse the Assassin. In fact, The very argument he uses, that Meapak jeopardized the mayor points toward him being a bodyguard - if he does know the name of the Mayor, then we'll only be helping the Assassin by increasing his chances of hitting the King.

I'm actually surprised by the ferocity of CubedIn's attack on Meapak, and by how eager he's been to lynch him. Anything to improve your chances, eh? Your post reeks of an assassin frustrated after being unable to crack Meapak's code.


##Vote CubedIn
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
November 06 2010 04:06 GMT
#71
Yeah, to me CubedIn's attempt to incriminate Meapak reek of "you accused me, so I accuse you", which is a big no-no as far as townie play goes. He is coming off very suspicious in my book, and I believe he is the best candidate for assassin so far.

[b]##Vote CubedIn[\b]
whole lies with a half smile
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 06 2010 04:15 GMT
#72
You guys sure do like to do whatever the fuck you want and disregard what everyone says about anything. Did you not read fishball's post? Are you daft? Fine do the opposite, you guys are going to give the killer one hell of a shot if you just assume things and start ignoring people when we are only 4 pages in.


On November 06 2010 03:41 Fishball wrote:seRapH pretty much just listed the sure win scenario. (I never read the rules until I saw HeavOnEarth's post up top)

The key point here, is all Bodyguards knows who their king is. This can be abused so hard.

Aside from the King, the Assassin is the only real one looking for information. The Bodyguards don't need to find out who each other are, and they don't need to talk, as in to "generate" discussion.

If no one talks, the Assassin gets nothing. All he can do is to pick a target and hit randomly.

Also, this "plan" will still work, even if bodyguards do NOT know who their King is. Basically, no one in the game needs to talk, at all. Whoever tries to fish, bam, your assassin.


In a slight response, I think your idea is strong, but it will never happen, and it already got shat to shit.
Also, remember that
Assassin - You are the Assassin. At any point in the game you can PM me the name of the person you want to kill. You can only kill once and if you do not kill the king with your one hit, you will lose the game. Your goal is to determine who the king is and kill him before you get lynched. If you get lynched, you will have a chance to put in a hit before you die. Your win condition takes precedence over the bodyguards/king win condition.

Anytime. BGs have to be careful how they respond, one chink in the chain and assasin has his job half done. Obviously BGs can confuse, but that would make us lean toward lynching this BG out of necessity.

For instance, assasin knows this meapak will not be the king. There is no PM coordination and 3 people have already voted him. Of course we will kill him now, but we do need to watch who is voting what. The BGs have to be a little bit more discreet. I respect meapak's willingness to die, but he has to know that every time a BG dies, the assasin increases his chances. We want to get him lynched early BECAUSE HE WILL ALWAYS HAVE A CHANCE TO KILL. He just sends the PM before then and he gets a kill.

Fairly certain everyone who voted already is a BG, or else a very clever or bold assasin is amoung them.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
November 06 2010 04:21 GMT
#73
As DrH mentioned, staying silent will completely take the fun out of the game. Though that is the "optimum" strategy, the host wants interaction. So we give him interaction...
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 06 2010 04:26 GMT
#74
On November 06 2010 13:21 orgolove wrote:
As DrH mentioned, staying silent will completely take the fun out of the game. Though that is the "optimum" strategy, the host wants interaction. So we give him interaction...

Of course, but completely straying from the general idea is just being obnoxious. You don't need to create scenes in mafia, it just happens. But I guess you guys are all the drama we need so, have fun with that split vote that already gives alot of info. I'll be keeping to myself.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 06 2010 04:32 GMT
#75
Staying silent's not really the optimum strategy, it's just a lazy strategy. There's a 1/8 chance we'll lynch the assassin, and a 7/8 chance that we'll lynch a bodyguard. If everyone's silent, it'll just wittle down the number of people and right when the assassin's about to get lynched (by some form of rng I assume), he'll just take a random stab at the small amount of people left.

Surely interaction is a better method.
lalala
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
November 06 2010 04:47 GMT
#76
Oops. Forgot bolding.

##Vote CubedIn
whole lies with a half smile
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
November 06 2010 04:50 GMT
#77
Well then, what would you have us (me) do? After all, CubedIn was the one who opened the can of worms. It's up to us to deal with it now.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
November 06 2010 05:18 GMT
#78
To explain my role PMs, I received one telling me I was body guard and the second telling me the name of the king. I thought if that had happened to anyone else they could state the nature of their second PM and we'd know they were telling the truth.

I feel strongly that cube is the assassin because he's made several statements that don't line up. However my opinion is not worth much seeing as my gambit failed.
unvote Meapak_Ziphh
vote cubedin
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 06 2010 05:23 GMT
#79
Hoho, game has begun.

For instance, assasin knows this meapak will not be the king. There is no PM coordination and 3 people have already voted him. Of course we will kill him now, but we do need to watch who is voting what. The BGs have to be a little bit more discreet. I respect meapak's willingness to die, but he has to know that every time a BG dies, the assasin increases his chances.

Why would you respect Meapak's willingness to die??? I'm pretty sure Meapak was joking with his self-vote; at least, I certain hope that he was. There is absolutely no point for anybody to be self-sacrificial. All the bodyguards know who the king is. Therefore, trying to get one of the other 7 players lynched over oneself has a better chance of hitting an assassin (1/7) versus sacrificing oneself (0/7). There's never going to be a circumstance where the King is going to get lynched, so there's no point in voting for Meapak if people strongly believe that he's a bodyguard.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 06 2010 05:24 GMT
#80
vote cubedin
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