when the king dies, I will be sad if you don't play "The King is dead" by helstar or the megadeth song where the chorus is like "the king is dead long live the king the king is dead" then I AM THE KING

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

November 05 2010 16:44 GMT

#23

Alright, I'll begin the game shortly. I have an interview this morning so just wait patiently for your role PMs.

On November 05 2010 16:41 Coagulation wrote:
I Have a feeling i wont be in insane mafia too much longer.
/IN plz DOCH I <3 YOU PLZ DONT BE MAD AT ME.

Actually to be honest..
I feel like some people (not mentioning any names) kinda take the game too serious and hold grudges outside of the mafia games.. and i have honestly contemplated not playing anymore because I feel like its shitty to have people think bad of you cause of it.

I don't hold grudges over mafia. I don't think you're good at this game but that doesn't mean I have anything against you as a person.

youngminii

Australia7514 Posts

November 05 2010 17:49 GMT

#24

On November 06 2010 01:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I don't think you're good at this game

BURNNNNNNNNN

Fishball

Canada4788 Posts

November 05 2010 18:02 GMT

#25

Oh, orgolove playing in DH's game!
Nice to see that you guys finally had things sorted out.

Qatol

United States3165 Posts

November 05 2010 18:02 GMT

#26

On November 06 2010 01:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Alright, I'll begin the game shortly. I have an interview this morning so just wait patiently for your role PMs.

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I don't hold grudges over mafia. I don't think you're good at this game but that doesn't mean I have anything against you as a person.

I don't think very many people hold grudges outside the game unless you're doing something to really piss them off (trolling/flaming/etc - generally something that will get you modkilled if you do it enough). However, judgments about skill level are inevitable.

HeavOnEarth

United States7087 Posts

November 05 2010 18:26 GMT

#27

On November 06 2010 00:49 seRapH wrote:

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well it'd be insta-town win

All bodyguards message the king, bam you know who the assassin is. day 1 win.

Unless assassin kills king before teh lynch on the first day =o

Fishball

Canada4788 Posts

November 05 2010 18:41 GMT

#28

seRapH pretty much just listed the sure win scenario. (I never read the rules until I saw HeavOnEarth's post up top)

The key point here, is all Bodyguards knows who their king is. This can be abused so hard.

Aside from the King, the Assassin is the only real one looking for information. The Bodyguards don't need to find out who each other are, and they don't need to talk, as in to "generate" discussion.

If no one talks, the Assassin gets nothing. All he can do is to pick a target and hit randomly.

Also, this "plan" will still work, even if bodyguards do NOT know who their King is. Basically, no one in the game needs to talk, at all. Whoever tries to fish, bam, your assassin.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 05 2010 18:49 GMT

#29

There's one main reason I don't like this game, since mafia don't know who mayor is if they make one single accusatory post towards him its basically GG for them. So it's really all luck-based for mafia survival, either that or they have to play EXTREMELY passively.
So I don't think you should have people know who the king is. In addition, it would make things much more interesting.

Fishball

Canada4788 Posts

November 05 2010 18:51 GMT

#30

On November 06 2010 03:49 Pandain wrote:
There's one main reason I don't like this game, since mafia don't know who mayor is if they make one single accusatory post towards him its basically GG for them. So it's really all luck-based for mafia survival, either that or they have to play EXTREMELY passively.
So I don't think you should have people know who the king is. In addition, it would make things much more interesting.

Read my post above, it still wouldn't work

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 05 2010 18:53 GMT

#31

On November 06 2010 03:51 Fishball wrote:

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Read my post above, it still wouldn't work

well the problem is you still have to lynch, no?

Of course if you do just random voting, no talking like that(lol would be hilarious), if mafia vote for the king its gg

Fishball

Canada4788 Posts

November 05 2010 18:55 GMT

#32

I retract all I said, since I haven't read the OP entirely, and seRapH's post. He was quoting someone else.
"There are NO PM's in the game".

I do have alternate plans, but I rather keep my mouth shut now.
Sorry for the interruption, ahem. I blame my boring lunch break.

Qatol

United States3165 Posts

November 05 2010 18:59 GMT

#33

On November 06 2010 03:53 Pandain wrote:

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well the problem is you still have to lynch, no?

Of course if you do just random voting, no talking like that(lol would be hilarious), if mafia vote for the king its gg

Not exactly. People jump on the Assassin for voting for king? I wonder who the Assassin will hit? Also, it becomes obvious when everyone is suspiciously avoiding voting for 1 player. Bodyguards will definitely vote for king.

LSB

United States5171 Posts

November 05 2010 19:09 GMT

#34

On November 06 2010 03:41 Fishball wrote:
seRapH pretty much just listed the sure win scenario. (I never read the rules until I saw HeavOnEarth's post up top)

The key point here, is all Bodyguards knows who their king is. This can be abused so hard.

Aside from the King, the Assassin is the only real one looking for information. The Bodyguards don't need to find out who each other are, and they don't need to talk, as in to "generate" discussion.

If no one talks, the Assassin gets nothing. All he can do is to pick a target and hit randomly.

Also, this "plan" will still work, even if bodyguards do NOT know who their King is. Basically, no one in the game needs to talk, at all. Whoever tries to fish, bam, your assassin.

So I'm guessing your thinking something like this?

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Every day, lynch a random person that isn't the king. Have someone immediately decide on someone to kill.

The assassin will have a have a 7/8*6/7*5/6*4/5*3/4*2/3=1/4th chance of surviving to Lylo. And then a 50% chance of surviving lylo to win.

So basically the assassin has a 12.5% chance of winning.

Problem, all the assassin has to do is to propose to lynch the king.
The bodyguards will have to play along or the assassin will know something is wrong, and just assassinate the king.

Then the Assassin wins. So actually, nothing really changes in the game. If the Assassin guessing the king correctly, he wins. In fact, he can get multiple guesses by suggesting different people every time.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

November 05 2010 19:13 GMT

#35

being quiet will make this game suck

you guys need to talk ok

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

November 05 2010 19:19 GMT

#36

Day 1

The King of Liquidia sat nervously on his throne. He had been given intelligence that an invading assassin from the neighboring rival kingdom, GosuGameria, had infiltrated the ranks of his bodyguards.

He would have to be careful. If his identity was discovered, he would surely meet an ill fate. Every day he would meet with his bodyguards, dressed in common garb, and they would discuss the matter at hand. Surely the evil mole would out himself...

The peace of Liquidia rests on it.