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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 22 2010 04:25 GMT
#121
[VOTE[##Coagulation

do i need a reason~_~?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 22 2010 05:18 GMT
#122
On October 22 2010 13:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 11:53 Coagulation wrote:
On October 22 2010 11:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 22 2010 11:20 Coagulation wrote:
There are 5 people who are possible reds


DocH BrownBear Drag_ NB Annul

But not you right?



[Vote]##drag_


yes and not pandain

medics protect me.

lol i'd love to hear your logic on how neither you or pandain could possibly be mafia






Trust me I will go down in history as most honest mafia player ever mark my words.
it may get me killed in the process but if it will reveal information then it is worth it.

Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 22 2010 05:19 GMT
#123
On October 22 2010 13:25 NB wrote:
[VOTE[##Coagulation

do i need a reason~_~?


mafia will push to lynch me asap because they know im right.
just saying.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 22 2010 05:49 GMT
#124
On October 22 2010 14:18 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 13:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 22 2010 11:53 Coagulation wrote:
On October 22 2010 11:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 22 2010 11:20 Coagulation wrote:
There are 5 people who are possible reds


DocH BrownBear Drag_ NB Annul

But not you right?



[Vote]##drag_


yes and not pandain

medics protect me.

lol i'd love to hear your logic on how neither you or pandain could possibly be mafia






Trust me I will go down in history as most honest mafia player ever mark my words.
it may get me killed in the process but if it will reveal information then it is worth it.


great logic

if pandain was your scumbuddy no doubt he'd be raging at you for posting stuff this dumb so I'm pretty sure you're town

but try to make sense in the future
RIP Aaliyah
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 22 2010 06:07 GMT
#125
sr guys but Coag and Dr.H are kissing each other ass...
and what is the reason to lynch an afk player again? we are allowed to "miss lynch" 3 times or so but that doesnt mean we should random lynching people like that ~_~
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 22 2010 06:11 GMT
#126
On October 22 2010 11:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
For now I'll vote for Drag_ and see how he responds.


looks like someone responding for him.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 22 2010 06:19 GMT
#127
On October 22 2010 15:07 NB wrote:
sr guys but Coag and Dr.H are kissing each other ass...
and what is the reason to lynch an afk player again? we are allowed to "miss lynch" 3 times or so but that doesnt mean we should random lynching people like that ~_~

omg

day 1 vote is a crapshoot there is almost NO way to pinpoint mafia on first day. basically none.

I'm not voting for drag_ to lynch him but force him to respond, he's barely posted in this thread at all. I'd vote for coagulation for shitting up the thread but I'm pretty sure he is town and since the game is so small I don't want to kill any townies here.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 22 2010 06:20 GMT
#128
On October 22 2010 15:11 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 11:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
For now I'll vote for Drag_ and see how he responds.


looks like someone responding for him.

what does that even mean?

you are aware posting lots of vague useless bullshit with no explanation doesn't help us right? that's all you've been doing this game
RIP Aaliyah
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 22 2010 06:27 GMT
#129
sorry i thought my last post was clear
NB had asked
On October 22 2010 15:07 NB wrote:
and what is the reason to lynch an afk player again?

I posted the reason you had provided.. he either missed it or chose to ignore it.
On October 22 2010 15:11 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 11:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
For now I'll vote for Drag_ and see how he responds.


looks like someone responding for him.


and im trying to point out that if drag_ is mafia his partner would likely respond against voting him also.. so we need to not only watch his response but anyone else that may rrespond like NB did.

sorry hope thats clear.

DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 22 2010 06:46 GMT
#130
On October 22 2010 15:27 Coagulation wrote:
sorry i thought my last post was clear
NB had asked
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 15:07 NB wrote:
and what is the reason to lynch an afk player again?

I posted the reason you had provided.. he either missed it or chose to ignore it.
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 15:11 Coagulation wrote:
On October 22 2010 11:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
For now I'll vote for Drag_ and see how he responds.


looks like someone responding for him.


and im trying to point out that if drag_ is mafia his partner would likely respond against voting him also.. so we need to not only watch his response but anyone else that may rrespond like NB did.

sorry hope thats clear.


Ok, I misunderstood you.
RIP Aaliyah
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 22 2010 07:56 GMT
#131
here is the thing: i suggest u guys should all vote for me on day3 so that i could prove myself being a towny. after you all found out the im the towny, please lynch Dr.H and Coag since they are really kissing...
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 22 2010 08:20 GMT
#132
On October 22 2010 16:56 NB wrote:
here is the thing: i suggest u guys should all vote for me on day3 so that i could prove myself being a towny. after you all found out the im the towny, please lynch Dr.H and Coag since they are really kissing...

yeah I'm kissing coag by disagreeing with all of his statements and berating him for not making any sense and contributing nothing

i think your posts are stupid too

are we kissing now?
RIP Aaliyah
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 22 2010 10:29 GMT
#133
On October 22 2010 13:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 11:53 Coagulation wrote:
On October 22 2010 11:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 22 2010 11:20 Coagulation wrote:
There are 5 people who are possible reds


DocH BrownBear Drag_ NB Annul

But not you right?



[Vote]##drag_


yes and not pandain

medics protect me.

lol i'd love to hear your logic on how neither you or pandain could possibly be mafia


it cause the role was vampire, not mafia. :p.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 22 2010 16:40 GMT
#134
so the smurf got targeted early. Kind of predictable, actually.

jodogohoo was town, which was unfortunate, but at the very least, we didn't kill off a more capable townie, I'm ok with that, kind of. Still don't like pointless deaths.

We aren't anywhere near LYLO yet, so we have some time to kill. The "vote drag_ to see how he responds" is ok, but we need more than that.

The coag vs NB thing - could be useful to lynch one? Of course, they could be two townies yelling at each other and letting mafia sit in the background.
SUNSFANNED
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 22 2010 17:25 GMT
#135
On October 23 2010 01:40 BrownBear wrote:
so the smurf got targeted early. Kind of predictable, actually.

jodogohoo was town, which was unfortunate, but at the very least, we didn't kill off a more capable townie, I'm ok with that, kind of. Still don't like pointless deaths.

We aren't anywhere near LYLO yet, so we have some time to kill. The "vote drag_ to see how he responds" is ok, but we need more than that.

The coag vs NB thing - could be useful to lynch one? Of course, they could be two townies yelling at each other and letting mafia sit in the background.

coag is defending pandain for no reason which pretty much means
1. he's the DT and he checked pandain
2. he's mafia and so is pandain
3. he's bad and just trusts pandain for no reason whatsoever

If I had to vote between the two of them, I'd go with NB
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 22 2010 17:26 GMT
#136
On October 23 2010 02:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 01:40 BrownBear wrote:
so the smurf got targeted early. Kind of predictable, actually.

jodogohoo was town, which was unfortunate, but at the very least, we didn't kill off a more capable townie, I'm ok with that, kind of. Still don't like pointless deaths.

We aren't anywhere near LYLO yet, so we have some time to kill. The "vote drag_ to see how he responds" is ok, but we need more than that.

The coag vs NB thing - could be useful to lynch one? Of course, they could be two townies yelling at each other and letting mafia sit in the background.

coag is defending pandain for no reason which pretty much means
1. he's the DT and he checked pandain
2. he's mafia and so is pandain
3. he's bad and just trusts pandain for no reason whatsoever

If I had to vote between the two of them, I'd go with NB

to elaborate on that NB is trying to draw up alliances between players that dont exist. a classic mafia strategy is trying to make it seem like certain players of the town are "allied together" and make them seem suspicious.
RIP Aaliyah
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 22 2010 19:45 GMT
#137
Okay, some things that can be noted from tonights kill:

Lol1221 was killed. He was a self proclaimed new player, constantly announced that in thread. He really didn't make any strong posts yet was killed. Why is this?

Lol1221, was really a smurf. All of his posts in teamliquid so far have been mafia related(man, even Proctat sometimes posts in non related stuff.) But who joins teamliquid just to play mafia? Who even knows they play mafia? So there are 3 possible reasons why Lol1221 was killed:

1.They thought he was blue.
Not really indicated by any of his posts. I haven't played mafia yet, so perhaps I'm not that good at blue analysis so maybe he just seemed to be one. But this is a doubtful reason, a possible, just maybe blue, rather than a more expierenced player?
2. He was catching on to them.
Still doubtful, as without #3 being true they wouldn't really have to worry. Let's see his posts:

On October 21 2010 09:56 lol1221 wrote:
[Vote]##Pandain

interesting...


On October 22 2010 09:48 lol1221 wrote:
hmm i probably would be wrong since i am new but at this point it seems like jodogohoo is not mafia??

this is like what, 7 people voted on him? no one seemed to have attacked anyone who started or joined the jodogohoo bandwagon, meaning the mafias probably knew that he's a townie so it would be for their benefit to kill jodogohoo...this logic could be turned over if the the mafia is trying to hold back the frustration of losing a teammate but the chance is that seems pretty low since there was hardly ANY objection in the vote (don't get me wrong, i am not the mafia trying to convince people to change votes, it's like last minute already)

just explaining how i viewed this bandwagon and stuff, noob @_@


He later unvoted me, but keeping that in here. The last post is fairly good, and I was worried about that too(most likely mafia just changed to bandwagon him for fear of another person being voted off.) But really he hasn't accused anyone, just defended people. So this point isn't a real viable reason why mafia shot him.
3. They knew he was a smurf, so shot him.
This makes the most sense. Why shoot a new player, who doesn't really show any signs he's blue, and really didn't accuse anyone? why would they do this? The only possible reason is that they thought(read: knew) he was a smurf. Now, what does this entail?

Most likely, an expierenced player is on the mafia team. For instance, if two of the newcomers(only playing in the last game), were on a team, then how would they know he was a smurf? Sure, they could look through his posts, but why do that when he hasn't contributed anything either? This is why I believe either Brownbear or Dr. H is mafia(most likely Dr. H, albeit Brownbear has been around for a while and even posted a sentence where he said he knew he was a smurf.) I'm leaning towards Dr. H, I'll post later about that.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 22 2010 19:57 GMT
#138
On October 23 2010 04:45 Pandain wrote:
Okay, some things that can be noted from tonights kill:

Lol1221 was killed. He was a self proclaimed new player, constantly announced that in thread. He really didn't make any strong posts yet was killed. Why is this?

Lol1221, was really a smurf. All of his posts in teamliquid so far have been mafia related(man, even Proctat sometimes posts in non related stuff.) But who joins teamliquid just to play mafia? Who even knows they play mafia? So there are 3 possible reasons why Lol1221 was killed:

1.They thought he was blue.
Not really indicated by any of his posts. I haven't played mafia yet, so perhaps I'm not that good at blue analysis so maybe he just seemed to be one. But this is a doubtful reason, a possible, just maybe blue, rather than a more expierenced player?
2. He was catching on to them.
Still doubtful, as without #3 being true they wouldn't really have to worry. Let's see his posts:

Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 09:56 lol1221 wrote:
[Vote]##Pandain

interesting...


Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 09:48 lol1221 wrote:
hmm i probably would be wrong since i am new but at this point it seems like jodogohoo is not mafia??

this is like what, 7 people voted on him? no one seemed to have attacked anyone who started or joined the jodogohoo bandwagon, meaning the mafias probably knew that he's a townie so it would be for their benefit to kill jodogohoo...this logic could be turned over if the the mafia is trying to hold back the frustration of losing a teammate but the chance is that seems pretty low since there was hardly ANY objection in the vote (don't get me wrong, i am not the mafia trying to convince people to change votes, it's like last minute already)

just explaining how i viewed this bandwagon and stuff, noob @_@


He later unvoted me, but keeping that in here. The last post is fairly good, and I was worried about that too(most likely mafia just changed to bandwagon him for fear of another person being voted off.) But really he hasn't accused anyone, just defended people. So this point isn't a real viable reason why mafia shot him.
3. They knew he was a smurf, so shot him.
This makes the most sense. Why shoot a new player, who doesn't really show any signs he's blue, and really didn't accuse anyone? why would they do this? The only possible reason is that they thought(read: knew) he was a smurf. Now, what does this entail?

Most likely, an expierenced player is on the mafia team. For instance, if two of the newcomers(only playing in the last game), were on a team, then how would they know he was a smurf? Sure, they could look through his posts, but why do that when he hasn't contributed anything either? This is why I believe either Brownbear or Dr. H is mafia(most likely Dr. H, albeit Brownbear has been around for a while and even posted a sentence where he said he knew he was a smurf.) I'm leaning towards Dr. H, I'll post later about that.

her last post was garbage. there is no such real thing as a day 1 bandwagon. day 1 votes/lynches are for the most part utterly meaningless unless scum really fucks up

as far as an experienced player being on mafia I agree it's likely. that would put me, you, and brownbear under suspicion.

I don't agree that lol1221 was a smurf. I can't think of any experienced players that post that badly or misunderstand the game enough to start talking about mafia voting habits/bandwagons on day 1
RIP Aaliyah
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 22 2010 19:59 GMT
#139
On October 23 2010 02:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 02:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 23 2010 01:40 BrownBear wrote:
so the smurf got targeted early. Kind of predictable, actually.

jodogohoo was town, which was unfortunate, but at the very least, we didn't kill off a more capable townie, I'm ok with that, kind of. Still don't like pointless deaths.

We aren't anywhere near LYLO yet, so we have some time to kill. The "vote drag_ to see how he responds" is ok, but we need more than that.

The coag vs NB thing - could be useful to lynch one? Of course, they could be two townies yelling at each other and letting mafia sit in the background.

coag is defending pandain for no reason which pretty much means
1. he's the DT and he checked pandain
2. he's mafia and so is pandain
3. he's bad and just trusts pandain for no reason whatsoever

If I had to vote between the two of them, I'd go with NB

to elaborate on that NB is trying to draw up alliances between players that dont exist. a classic mafia strategy is trying to make it seem like certain players of the town are "allied together" and make them seem suspicious.

lolol, you described what i did in the haunted mafia xD.... but i admit what you pointed out is true and i had a flaw in my logic ... life go on ^^
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 22 2010 20:03 GMT
#140
On October 23 2010 04:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 04:45 Pandain wrote:
Okay, some things that can be noted from tonights kill:

Lol1221 was killed. He was a self proclaimed new player, constantly announced that in thread. He really didn't make any strong posts yet was killed. Why is this?

Lol1221, was really a smurf. All of his posts in teamliquid so far have been mafia related(man, even Proctat sometimes posts in non related stuff.) But who joins teamliquid just to play mafia? Who even knows they play mafia? So there are 3 possible reasons why Lol1221 was killed:

1.They thought he was blue.
Not really indicated by any of his posts. I haven't played mafia yet, so perhaps I'm not that good at blue analysis so maybe he just seemed to be one. But this is a doubtful reason, a possible, just maybe blue, rather than a more expierenced player?
2. He was catching on to them.
Still doubtful, as without #3 being true they wouldn't really have to worry. Let's see his posts:

On October 21 2010 09:56 lol1221 wrote:
[Vote]##Pandain

interesting...


On October 22 2010 09:48 lol1221 wrote:
hmm i probably would be wrong since i am new but at this point it seems like jodogohoo is not mafia??

this is like what, 7 people voted on him? no one seemed to have attacked anyone who started or joined the jodogohoo bandwagon, meaning the mafias probably knew that he's a townie so it would be for their benefit to kill jodogohoo...this logic could be turned over if the the mafia is trying to hold back the frustration of losing a teammate but the chance is that seems pretty low since there was hardly ANY objection in the vote (don't get me wrong, i am not the mafia trying to convince people to change votes, it's like last minute already)

just explaining how i viewed this bandwagon and stuff, noob @_@


He later unvoted me, but keeping that in here. The last post is fairly good, and I was worried about that too(most likely mafia just changed to bandwagon him for fear of another person being voted off.) But really he hasn't accused anyone, just defended people. So this point isn't a real viable reason why mafia shot him.
3. They knew he was a smurf, so shot him.
This makes the most sense. Why shoot a new player, who doesn't really show any signs he's blue, and really didn't accuse anyone? why would they do this? The only possible reason is that they thought(read: knew) he was a smurf. Now, what does this entail?

Most likely, an expierenced player is on the mafia team. For instance, if two of the newcomers(only playing in the last game), were on a team, then how would they know he was a smurf? Sure, they could look through his posts, but why do that when he hasn't contributed anything either? This is why I believe either Brownbear or Dr. H is mafia(most likely Dr. H, albeit Brownbear has been around for a while and even posted a sentence where he said he knew he was a smurf.) I'm leaning towards Dr. H, I'll post later about that.

her last post was garbage. there is no such real thing as a day 1 bandwagon. day 1 votes/lynches are for the most part utterly meaningless unless scum really fucks up

as far as an experienced player being on mafia I agree it's likely. that would put me, you, and brownbear under suspicion.

I don't agree that lol1221 was a smurf. I can't think of any experienced players that post that badly or misunderstand the game enough to start talking about mafia voting habits/bandwagons on day 1


Lol1221 was almost certainly a smurf. Again, every single one of his posts have been in the mafia forums. Who joins a sc2 website to play mafia? And imo he was just playing new, as do all of smurfs. You have to look not only at his words(which are quite suscipcious in themselves because he CONSTANTLY points out the "fact" that he's new.) but at his actions as well(only has posted in mafia forum.)

Also, you should be happy to note that I do not think you are "most likely" mafia. I do find some of your actions suscipcious, such as voting jodo for being a bad player, then despite your constant pointing out coag is playing "poorly" don't vote him, and even thinks he's townie. I'm sure you have a good reason(intuition for example,) but care to explain?

As of right now I'll be analyzing people.
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