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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 23 2010 23:50 GMT
#167
On October 24 2010 08:30 NB wrote:
also, i did NOT make any statement on what medic should do, in fact i totally forgot that us townies has blue role and assumed everyone are greens and reds


even if there weren't any blue roles, the risk of protecting mafia is negligible since mafia couldn't be hit anyway.

Town, however can.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 23 2010 23:58 GMT
#169
Oh wow.

Everyone is at one vote, and everyone has voted except drag. This means that drag is going to be the deciding vote.

We don't want mafia to be able to influence this so easily. Or blame drag for killing a townie or mafia.

I highly suggest everyone choose between NB and Annul. So NB, I suggest you unvote Coag(and do you still have any reasons for voting him, you have admitted theres no relationship between him and Dr. H). Voting annul I would highly suggest.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 24 2010 01:38 GMT
#175
If the DT is not Coag, check Dr. H/ Brownbear.
If coag is, do w/e. Those two are still viable optoins, but you might want to check NB.

Medics I suppose should protect Coag since he soft claimed blue.

If I die, coag should claim whether he is DT, and see if there is a counter claim. If there is, then we know one of them is mafia. If there isn't, we should view Coag as probably townie, but keep in mind he could be mafia trying just go gain town brownie points. Be VERY wary of that. That might actually be effective since it can draw away medic protection and establish a "confirmed" townie, when actually he is mafia.

If Annul is town, watch out for NB. I still think one of them is definitely mafia, albeit coag being mafia is still a chance.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 24 2010 01:52 GMT
#178
onoes roleclaim on day2.

better hope the medic's active in the last 13 minutes

on the plus side, at least if he dies then im confirmed.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 24 2010 02:09 GMT
#184
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 24 2010 05:23 GMT
#190
alright right now i don't need to justify actions so I'm just going to go with SFA

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 24 2010 05:23 GMT
#191
##Vote Dr. H
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 24 2010 06:23 GMT
#194
On October 24 2010 15:08 NB wrote:
oh fuck X(..... sorry coag :<....

VOTE## Pandain


seriously?

he checked me. I'm clean.
how the fadoodle could I be mafia >
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 24 2010 21:54 GMT
#195
Alright, I am so confused. I have no idea what to do. If Dr. H was a normal player, I'd think he was town, but he's Dr. H and has some funky psychological mind tricks and stuff as mafia. So I'm just going to ignore him and hope that resolves itself.

I'm deciding between NB and Brownbear. Unfortunatenly I've had to use some out of game logic, but here's where that leads us.

1.Most likely, NB and Drag are not on the same team.
2.Even more likely, Brownbear and Dr. H are not on the same team.

While I hate using logic like this as its inherently uncertain and relies on what the host would do (aka, wifom), its just some musing I have. I don't think Drag is mafia, as he's usually inactive and really hasn't made any accusations, but that also could just be an inactive mafia lurking in the shadows. My utter confusion shows just how inexperienced I am, and I'm asking for Brownbear and Dr. H to start looking at some people so I can get more into thinking.

Brownbear has been less active, and should be posting more(in addition has not contributed heavily like he said he would start doing). NB has made several anti town things but I'm unsure whether that's just because he's new. Here's basically my case.
On October 23 2010 07:15 Pandain wrote:


NB
Summary: This guy is suscipcious to me. Now, he's new, so he gets a bit of leniancy, and I've explained some stuff to him, but some things stick out to me. For example, that whole "coag and Dr. H are scum buddies" He later admits there is no such obvious correlation, but how he came up with that in the first place I want to know. Also, he does the old "Lynch me, you'll find out I'm town." Which I never like, because it's just like your asking them to lynch you, but why would you do that if your town. Of course, townies do it alot, so I can't really judge this the best.
His posts:+ Show Spoiler +

On October 20 2010 15:37 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 15:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
day 1 lynch is a crapshoot. our best bet is to RNG a vote and put pressure on the person who is being voted for. there really is no other way.

don't listen to any bullshit about how "we need to lynch whoever gives us the most information", that's mafia talk. it's used to draw up fake allegiances which benefit the mafia very clearly.

the more votes someone gets, the more defensive they get, the more likely they are to slip up if they're mafia.

I randomly pick [Vote]##BrownBear

lololol voting on veteran players? LOLOLOL

i see what you did there [Vote]##DoctorHelvetica


I can see this as a joke, with all the winky faces. But Dr. H is right, it could be an example of chainsaw defense(protecting brownbear by attacking Dr. H.)

On October 20 2010 17:40 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 16:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 20 2010 15:37 NB wrote:
On October 20 2010 15:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
day 1 lynch is a crapshoot. our best bet is to RNG a vote and put pressure on the person who is being voted for. there really is no other way.

don't listen to any bullshit about how "we need to lynch whoever gives us the most information", that's mafia talk. it's used to draw up fake allegiances which benefit the mafia very clearly.

the more votes someone gets, the more defensive they get, the more likely they are to slip up if they're mafia.

I randomly pick [Vote]##BrownBear

lololol voting on veteran players? LOLOLOL

i see what you did there [Vote]##DoctorHelvetica

the only player i don't know is lol1221 and i'm assuming it's korynne or dreamflower smurfing.

also i wanted to say this to the town and this is the perfect time to do so:
don't lynch people for defending other players. note in haunted mafia how veldril barely defended masq (which is reasonable cause day 1 lynch is a crapshoot anyhow) and then ended up getting lynched for it.

the way mafia defend other mafia is by attacking the accuser, not by actually defending.

nice chainsaw defense

no, the good lesson is DO NOT PROTECT ANYONE =))... the fact that veldril should be lynched was created by me while i was the god-father xD (after masq died)....


Alright, either this is an example that he's new, or this is an incrediably scummy post. In case he's new, I'll go over why medics should always protect someone. Basically, even if there is a 2/9 chance you'll protect someone who's mafia, that really doesn't matter. It's not like your helping mafia(no vigi) in any way besides protecting them, but thats the same thing as not protecting at all. With a possible two blues in this game, medics must always be protecting every night.

On October 20 2010 20:18 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 18:06 Coagulation wrote:
On October 20 2010 17:40 NB wrote:
On October 20 2010 16:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 20 2010 15:37 NB wrote:
On October 20 2010 15:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
day 1 lynch is a crapshoot. our best bet is to RNG a vote and put pressure on the person who is being voted for. there really is no other way.

don't listen to any bullshit about how "we need to lynch whoever gives us the most information", that's mafia talk. it's used to draw up fake allegiances which benefit the mafia very clearly.

the more votes someone gets, the more defensive they get, the more likely they are to slip up if they're mafia.

I randomly pick [Vote]##BrownBear

lololol voting on veteran players? LOLOLOL

i see what you did there [Vote]##DoctorHelvetica

the only player i don't know is lol1221 and i'm assuming it's korynne or dreamflower smurfing.

also i wanted to say this to the town and this is the perfect time to do so:
don't lynch people for defending other players. note in haunted mafia how veldril barely defended masq (which is reasonable cause day 1 lynch is a crapshoot anyhow) and then ended up getting lynched for it.

the way mafia defend other mafia is by attacking the accuser, not by actually defending.

nice chainsaw defense

no, the good lesson is DO NOT PROTECT ANYONE =))... the fact that veldril should be lynched was created by me while i was the god-father xD (after masq died)....


Do not protect anyone? That seems like a very anti town attitude to me..

cmon man, you all see what happened to veldril -.-... i mean u obviously should defends yourself but otherwise you would be consider as having a "teammate" and got lynch with him....
also how is it anti town? So stand out and protect a mafia is supporting town?


Already discussed. I still find this scummy, but that view is tempered by the fact he's new.
On October 21 2010 16:23 NB wrote:
jodogohoo got mafia ban?....

need an explanation on DrH latest post ~_~... how does that make him scum @_@... excuse me for being noob T_T

asking for clarification. Nothing wrong I suppose, I need clarification all the time.
On October 22 2010 07:49 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 07:08 jodogohoo wrote:
Vote drag_ he hasn't voted yet!

i dun know.... the player who didnt vote yet should be a towny since he didn't communicated with anyone (aka. teammate) yet.... ~_~
it could be an afk mafia but most likely towny ~_~....
unvote##DR.H
Vote## jodogohoo


good point I think, albeit it could just be an inactive mafia n.n
On October 22 2010 09:41 NB wrote:
"ohhhhh shiiittttt! "(day9's voice)

jodogohoo bandwagon is formed xD


Which you started, no?
On October 22 2010 13:25 NB wrote:
[VOTE[##Coagulation

do i need a reason~_~?

Yes, yes you do.
Why would you vote without giving a reason, especially when it's pretty surprising
On October 22 2010 15:07 NB wrote:
sr guys but Coag and Dr.H are kissing each other ass...
and what is the reason to lynch an afk player again? we are allowed to "miss lynch" 3 times or so but that doesnt mean we should random lynching people like that ~_~


Yeah, cause as Dr. H kindly pointed out, disagreeing with each on almost every issue is a sign of a stable bond. I do find the drag lynch somewhat surprising, as it is a little bit early, but we can also pressure him to post more.
On October 22 2010 16:56 NB wrote:
here is the thing: i suggest u guys should all vote for me on day3 so that i could prove myself being a towny. after you all found out the im the towny, please lynch Dr.H and Coag since they are really kissing...


I don't like this post because if he was townie:
1. Why would he want to be lynched at all
2. How would he know Dr. H and Coag are mafia.
On October 23 2010 04:59 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 02:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 23 2010 02:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 23 2010 01:40 BrownBear wrote:
so the smurf got targeted early. Kind of predictable, actually.

jodogohoo was town, which was unfortunate, but at the very least, we didn't kill off a more capable townie, I'm ok with that, kind of. Still don't like pointless deaths.

We aren't anywhere near LYLO yet, so we have some time to kill. The "vote drag_ to see how he responds" is ok, but we need more than that.

The coag vs NB thing - could be useful to lynch one? Of course, they could be two townies yelling at each other and letting mafia sit in the background.

coag is defending pandain for no reason which pretty much means
1. he's the DT and he checked pandain
2. he's mafia and so is pandain
3. he's bad and just trusts pandain for no reason whatsoever

If I had to vote between the two of them, I'd go with NB

to elaborate on that NB is trying to draw up alliances between players that dont exist. a classic mafia strategy is trying to make it seem like certain players of the town are "allied together" and make them seem suspicious.

lolol, you described what i did in the haunted mafia xD.... but i admit what you pointed out is true and i had a flaw in my logic ... life go on ^^


Alright, so you addmited that that was a horrible breach in logic and there is no such alliance. I have no idea how you came up with this in the first place.



In addition, he voted me even though I've been checked by coag.

##Unvote Dr. H
##Vote NB



+ Show Spoiler +
so confused
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 24 2010 22:10 GMT
#197
On October 24 2010 10:48 Coagulation wrote:
in case i die

There are 5 people who are possible reds


DocH BrownBear Drag_ NB Annul


not me.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 25 2010 01:09 GMT
#201
On October 25 2010 09:49 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2010 07:10 Pandain wrote:
On October 24 2010 10:48 Coagulation wrote:
in case i die

There are 5 people who are possible reds


DocH BrownBear Drag_ NB Annul


not me.

sr man, if your name is not on the list, it means that he has not checked you YET!! and dont tell me he is detective, what if he got role blocked?


Because he specifically said I am not mafia.

On October 22 2010 11:53 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 11:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 22 2010 11:20 Coagulation wrote:
There are 5 people who are possible reds


DocH BrownBear Drag_ NB Annul

But not you right?



[Vote]##drag_


yes and not pandain

medics protect me.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 25 2010 20:19 GMT
#204
On October 25 2010 11:30 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2010 10:09 Pandain wrote:
On October 25 2010 09:49 NB wrote:
On October 25 2010 07:10 Pandain wrote:
On October 24 2010 10:48 Coagulation wrote:
in case i die

There are 5 people who are possible reds


DocH BrownBear Drag_ NB Annul


not me.

sr man, if your name is not on the list, it means that he has not checked you YET!! and dont tell me he is detective, what if he got role blocked?


Because he specifically said I am not mafia.

On October 22 2010 11:53 Coagulation wrote:
On October 22 2010 11:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 22 2010 11:20 Coagulation wrote:
There are 5 people who are possible reds


DocH BrownBear Drag_ NB Annul

But not you right?



[Vote]##drag_


yes and not pandain

medics protect me.


quote the post he said that or it never happen! If he did said that, i will change my vote to what evar u tell me to :D


I just did

Alright guys, turns out its Lylo. I want everyone talking. This is the final vote.

We mislynch, and we lose.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 25 2010 23:50 GMT
#206
Drag and Dr. H or BB and NB.

Let's see whether I'm right..........
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 26 2010 00:58 GMT
#209
OMG ITS YORU BIRTHDAY WHY DIDNT YOU SAY ANYTHING
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 26 2010 10:32 GMT
#228
why is doctor h so good.

honestly I was so lost, I had no idea what to do.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 26 2010 18:55 GMT
#235
IDK, I was relunctant about voting Drag, because he's played like this last game even with blue. which comes up an essential problem I've been having: Analysis. More specificaly, what should you analyze, what are good ways to analyze someone, and how do you tell between a bad/bored townie and a scum.

I'm happy at the least I knew it was either NB/BB or drag/Dr.H but of course it was day 3 by then :p.
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