Though this doesn't really clear either of them. They can both be mafia and just making stuff up. My guess.
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Though this doesn't really clear either of them. They can both be mafia and just making stuff up. My guess. | ||
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On November 04 2010 09:07 LunarDestiny wrote: Confirm, short message too. Something like I was poked by DrH. Also, it seems that Node's ability is not actually foreseeing a person's death but somehow knowing where a mafia hit going to go at the start of the day. Given that there is two deaths and mafia's kill power is 2+1, that "+1" should be the hit that Node is "foreseeing." Damn you ninja. Also, yes, I was gonna ask node about this, how exactly are you foreseeing (i remember you are oracle, right? but i forget the exact mechanics), and when exactly are you informed of the person who will be targeted? | ||
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There, he flipped blue, so it might be that he just doesn't really care much. Also, I saw him with the temp-ban icon recently, and so I found this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696¤tpage=424#8486 So he should be unbanned now, but he was out this entire night. Don't know if that means anything though. | ||
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On November 04 2010 09:45 Node wrote: I am informed of a person that is going to die at the beginning of every day via mod PM. Because of this, I believe the person is chosen randomly, as I can't see the mafia choosing someone ahead of time, especially on the first day. Maybe first day was random, and then they have to pick 1 day ahead. (they = mafia) Either way, please read this people: On November 04 2010 09:29 Kenpachi wrote: after all, im just a teenager. This is a standard handicap role, also known as "the warewolf" where one person has to say a world at least once a day. I don't see why else he would post that, but I'll go check previous days. I am worried because as far as I know, this role is red usually. But I could be wrong. Help me out here. | ||
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On November 04 2010 09:49 CubEdIn wrote: Maybe first day was random, and then they have to pick 1 day ahead. (they = mafia) Either way, please read this people: On November 04 2010 09:29 Kenpachi wrote: after all, im just a teenager. This is a standard handicap role, also known as "the warewolf" where one person has to say a world at least once a day. I don't see why else he would post that, but I'll go check previous days. I am worried because as far as I know, this role is red usually. But I could be wrong. Help me out here. Seems that I am wrong, I didn't find but 5 posts of his, and he doesn't say it in either. So unless I suck at searching, I'm sorry. However, please keep an eye open for the word teenager, if it comes up again. It just sounded really odd to me. | ||
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On November 04 2010 09:55 infinitestory wrote: information source? I can't find it on mafiascum.net it's also not true, since the word "teenager" has only been posted once in the thread Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(party_game) Do a search for "teenage warewolf". I thought it triggered something, this is why. But it seems I am wrong. | ||
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"Alternatively, it may be a standard role with a particular constraint, such as the teenage werewolf, who must say the word "werewolf" at least once each day." | ||
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"take it with a grain of salt" means using your brain while doing said action, not just take it "at face value", as it seems, but put a little thought into it. It's like saying "use your own reasoning". But in this context he seems to mean "i'll still think about it before making a decision". | ||
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The sooner we lynch mafias, the sooner we drop their KP. Just move your bomb, if you have one that is. Good to know we have another doctor then. Also I rofled @ coag's defense and woke up my gf. "REALLY POWERFUL ability"... i'll post it later once I get the chance to make one up. Voted! | ||
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Albeit a long shot, Glasse could be mafia. Why? - We don't really know his role - We know that he's part of Radio Loony, but he claims he doesn't control "all of it", just the non-instigating parts? How convenient. - His voting pattern is strange (keeping his vote on DrH, could be related to his role) - He very rarely posts useful things Maybe he doesn't control Loony altogether, but is there a way we can check this? Perhaps give him something to say and see what comes up, but I guess that would be useless since if someone else is controlling it as well, they will see it and play along to cast-away suspicion. My only real issue with Glasse is that he didn't role-claim properly. He gave us bits and pieces. First the cat, then, after a while, he decided to let us know that he didn't write all of it. (Why not tell us from the beginning?), then he told us he has a character count he must stick to, then he told us that c.count is 75. Why not just share all this information from the beginning? Can anyone brainstorm a way for us to see exactly how the mechanics behind the Radio work? | ||
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Don't say anything and see what happens. Or keep it down to one word like "meow" or whatever. | ||
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I'm saying you might be red due to the fact that you haven't (and still aren't) giving us full information about your role and the exact mechanics behind it. Maybe it's something we can exploit. Also due to your voting pattern. Heck, you might have some sort of wacky handicap of having to vote for your team mate, and you could both be reds! As I said, it's a very long shot, but I cannot convince myself that you're blue given the circumstances, and the way that you claimed, and the fact that there are enticing comments in the radio posts. | ||
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I was just saying it looks odd. Oh, wait, there is one thing: Can you not say anything at all in the Loony Radio thing? I'm asking both if it is possible and if you are willing to. It might tell us more about the mechanics. | ||
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That would be interesting, but make sure you don't get modkilled or anything for not playing your role. | ||
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I got a lot of ideas going on at the moment, but 90% of them revolve around whether or not Coagulation flips red. | ||
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On November 05 2010 07:23 youngminii wrote: In case I'm not understanding what's going on properly: DCL claimed Mad Hatter and has a bomb on Coag. Town is lynching Coag. Isn't this a bit counterintuitive? Why are we not lynching the next best target (Pandain)? I'm all for having Coag killed but that does screw over one of the bombs, assuming DCL isn't fakeclaiming. By the way, the internet at my home got cut and isn't coming back up for over a week, I'll try to be as active as possible though. Because with 2 mafia dead, we might have a shot of dropping KP tonight if we lynch a 100% confirmed. Besides, not to be a finger-pointer, but we're not exactly 100% sure that DC isn't lying to give Coag one more day on this earth. | ||
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Please explain in more detail why I should change to Pandain. Here is why I'm thinking I shouldn't. We are more sure that Coag is red then we are of Pandain. We are guessing Pandain is so due to behavior (both his and Coag's). We pretty much know that Coag is due to the DT, the way he reacted (I got a really cool role guys but you see, ummm, wait, i'll have to think about it a bit.), etc. Why should I vote for someone that I'm only ..say.. 75% sure of (Pan) when I can vote for someone that I'm 95% sure of (Coag) ?? The second the DT post was made, Coag was doomed. Mafia knew that as well as we did. The fact that you're thinking that they're letting him die and not Pandain BECAUSE Pand has a better role, seems silly. Also, for a kind-of wild card reason: Look at the vote lists. Assume that coag is red, and that pandain is a coinflip (humor me, for this, so there are 5-6 mafia left). Now look at the vote lists. Which of them seems more stacked with Mafia? Based on your own judgement of what happened so far, your own instincts and what not. To me, Pandain's list seems more stacked with people I don't trust 100% (Hyperbola, Beneather, Youngminii, Meapak_Ziphh). Although I don't trust them mostly because of lurking, I can't help but consider the possibility that Pandain is telling the truth and the mafia wants coag to live an extra day. I agree, the chance of Pandain NOT being mafia are LOWER then the chances of him being mafia. But we're like, 95% sure that Coag IS mafia. Why give him another day? Can't we give Pandain another day instead? Please feel free to convince me otherwise, I'll gladly change my vote if a good argument is made. P.S.: I do not really trust 666 due to his shifty play so far, plus, even if he's telling the truth he could (and probably will) be roleblocked, so I'm not gonna trust him 100% for a red's death, sorry. | ||
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On November 06 2010 00:32 kitaman27 wrote: I think the main reason people feel we should lynch Pandain first is that it gives us more information to use in the upcoming double lynch. If he pops blue then we go after those who pushed his lynch, if he pops red then we go after those he is associated with. Even though we know Coag is probably red, he has been much quieter. There is also the fact that DC claims to have a bomb on Coag and a possible townie so if we lynch Coag, one of his bombs has the change of being wasted. That being said, I'm keeping my vote on Coag, as he is more of a sure thing and I haven't seen enough evidence against Pandain to convince me he is scum. Yeah I didn't really think of that. But it's starting to be WIFOM. If you're arguing that if he flips blue, you're going after who pushed him, why would the mafia push him? Sure, some might, but the ones that are fairly confident that they can't be uncovered afterwards. I don't know, it still seems fairly random to me. I don't like it, I'm keeping my vote on the sure thing, for now. @ Glasse: Day 3 ends in 7h15m. | ||
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