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On October 30 2010 14:22 Fishball wrote:
Even if I don't get the Mayor at the end, I still might reveal my role at that point, but this requires more consideration.
I think you are much better off not being mayor
If a red slips into power as mayor and you are truly pro town as you say you are we are gonna need someone who can organize as a backup plan.
I think you would be best suited as our ace up the sleeve in case mayor gets compromised.
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On October 30 2010 14:27 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 14:25 kingjames01 wrote:
Although he seems sincere, it is also a possibility that DrH does not realize he's anti-town.
Consider for a moment:
An Insane Cop does not know that his actions are opposite to what he expects.
This is an Insane Mafia game.
Perhaps there are actually a lot of Insane roles in this game.
As I've said before, a truly Insane game must be, by definition, unpredictable. What I mean to say is, we, as players, need to stop relying on what we KNOW from the past and start playing based on the set of rules that we infer from this game ONLY.
It would not be fair for the mods to change the rules mid-game, but it is completely in their power to take advantage of our preconceptions on what a Mafia game is. Remember, this is INSANE MAFIA.
If I were a medic, I would protect this man.
If I were a medic, I would get myself checked out for possible mental diseases, from ADD to total and utter psychoneurosis, with all this INSANE talk going around.
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On October 30 2010 14:28 orgolove wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 14:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 30 2010 14:16 orgolove wrote:
lol, awesome find haha. Now we have second evidence of DoctorHelvetica "Embellishing the Truth" aka lying.
How could you not reveal the *slightly* important fact that whoever you do your night action on will be infected with Murrayitis?
Anything else you're hiding, mr Sticky? In the words of Antoine Dodson "You are so dumb. You are really dumb. For real." kingjames and infinitestory are merely speculating on the fact that my poke could infect them. however in my talks with artanis it is pretty clear the point of my role is to a. confirm my role to others and to b. tell who does and doesn't have murrayitis i was never told that i infect people with murrayitis and my understanding is that my role is designed to fight its spread you like to paint me as a liar whenever you can based on posts you don't even have the reading comprehension to understand obviously mafia would be shitting their pants at the idea of electing me. it's suspicious to say the least. Anyone who was even remotely invested in the Haunted Mafia game would be horrified at the prospect of letting you become the Mayor after the way you completely screwed up the game in the final days. Gj killing one of the last 3 mafia, letting the vamps just stroll to victory -_- I have no interest in allowing someone who screws up in that magnitude in a job as the town mayor.
I fail to see the relevance and to be honest, am getting sick of the personal attacks.
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On October 30 2010 14:28 orgolove wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 14:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 30 2010 14:16 orgolove wrote:
lol, awesome find haha. Now we have second evidence of DoctorHelvetica "Embellishing the Truth" aka lying.
How could you not reveal the *slightly* important fact that whoever you do your night action on will be infected with Murrayitis?
Anything else you're hiding, mr Sticky? In the words of Antoine Dodson "You are so dumb. You are really dumb. For real." kingjames and infinitestory are merely speculating on the fact that my poke could infect them. however in my talks with artanis it is pretty clear the point of my role is to a. confirm my role to others and to b. tell who does and doesn't have murrayitis i was never told that i infect people with murrayitis and my understanding is that my role is designed to fight its spread you like to paint me as a liar whenever you can based on posts you don't even have the reading comprehension to understand obviously mafia would be shitting their pants at the idea of electing me. it's suspicious to say the least. Anyone who was even remotely invested in the Haunted Mafia game would be horrified at the prospect of letting you become the Mayor after the way you completely screwed up the game in the final days. Gj killing one of the last 3 mafia, letting the vamps just stroll to victory -_- I have no interest in allowing someone who screws up in that magnitude in a job as the town mayor. Besides, if truly that's all you can do, I can hardly think the ability to check ONE player a day for a disease which doesn't even kill unless it's extensively spread to be the "SUPER IMPORTANT" role that you claimed as your role. Further, there is no way we will be able to confirm that your stick doesn't infect people - As kingjames has mentioned, if your stick is "dirty," you can simply claim whoever you infected the first night to have "turned up as infected" in your "check". Then you can just let the other blues check on him, further confirming your "innoc
I didn't kill a goddamn mafia, I modkilled southrawrea because he didn't vote for a living person.
Want to fling more bullshit insults my way or do you want to play this game the right way
why don't you mod a 61 person game practically by yourself and make zero mistakes before you act like an asshole to me. oh wait you can't even keep a simple spreadsheet factual in the first day of the game LOL
this is the second time in this game you've tried to make me look bad because of the mistakes i made in haunted mafia (all 2 of them) and yeah, it's done gone and pissed me the hell off. uncalled for.
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watch the mafia keep grasping at straws to try to make me look bad and red when I've done more to show i'm town than anyone in this game
and then they want to vote for pandain lololol
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On October 30 2010 13:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 13:31 bumatlarge wrote:On October 30 2010 06:10 Pandain wrote:
Alright this is pretty bad for town. Alot of people would be alot safer if everyone didn't decide to run for mayor because they need "protection." because honestly, the best protection is secrecy. Now only one of us will win the election, and the rest of us will be sniped off.
Also, Bum, whats with anyone but me? I'd like to hear your reasons instead of just words. Merely because you havent hinted at what you could do besides be a mayor. I think every candidate has stated what he is capable of. You, not really...  On October 30 2010 10:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 30 2010 10:15 Pandain wrote:
sorry still reading but just to adress one vital concern.
I am very proactive. I will help the town, i've already decided what we should do if I'm elected so I might as well share it.
As of now, we need medics protecting several of the valuable blues that claimed to run. Sure, one may be a mafia but most likely the rest will be vital blues. So I think they should RNG between Dr. H, Fishball, and possibly Bum. And If i lose, then take out the winner and add me.
Right now I don't have any active thoughts because really its day 1. Anyone who says they really know whats going on is either mafia or wrong. Sure, you can get lucky every once in a while but unless someone truly scum slips it's going to be mostly a guessing game.
If you've seen any of my games, you'd know I'm very decisive. Anyway, still reading. top medic targets should be: ace bumatlarge fishball Dangerous to be suggesting these things with M-rus around, but I will get to that. + Show Spoiler +On October 30 2010 12:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:My platform or why I'm running for mayor Simply,I have a role which can do two things: confirm itself to another player at night and help to stop the spread of murrayitis. The first ability will confirm I am who I say I am to the town, if used correctly, and the second will limit the mafia from using the plague to achieve their win condition. I will not allow poor bandwagons and mafia manipulation to influence my decisions and I offer coordination powers that are uncorruptable.
So why is it important that you're mayor?
I can't coordinate blues and plague doctors if I'm dead. It's also very beneficial to the town to have a mayor that can confirm himself as blue, doubly so if he can be inducted into a town circle. After I am confirmed to be not mafia and am immune to night kills, by being inducted into the circle I can do two things: 1. coordinate blues in the circle further and use myself as a mouthpiece for their communication in the thread. 2. keep an eye on suspicious activity within the circle and relay this information to the town. If I'm not inducted into the circle, I can still easily coordinate doctor action within the thread itself.
How can I be sure you are town?
+ Show Spoiler +On October 30 2010 11:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I can understand why people maybe don't want me to be mayor over fishball but trying to paint me as scum is ludicrous.
Let's say I am mafia.
I am faking a role in which I confirm my role to another player each night. To fake this I must get another mafia to pretend that I did this each day, who would probably be DT checked immediately throwing me under suspicion.
I don't want to say exactly how my second ability works but I can reliably show my powers in helping to stop the spread of the plague. Faking this would be much quicker. It would be incredibly easy to catch me in this lie and since the results of my actions are reflected in the murrayitis numbers and the success of plague doctors, it isn't really something I can pull off.
I am offering myself for lynch if the information I'm giving is found to be unreliable. So as mafia here, I'm sacrificing myself. my scumbuddies, and making claims that I cannot fulfill.
An utterly retarded thing to do. Not to mention the fact that being mayor barely benefits mafia in this case. The only real benefit is immunity to vig hits and the second vote.
In a normal mafia game, the mayor has 3 extra votes, complete immunity from night actions. A DT can check the mayor for godssake.
So for me to pull this off all of the following are true:
I am mafia
I am godfather
I can get the mafia to pretend I am confirming to them without ever being caught
I can fake a role that involves stopping the spread of murrayitis which isn't a possibility.
Consider all of that for the benefit a mafia player would be going for:
extra vote
immunity to vigs
and also weight the con a mafia has from being mayor:
guaranteed DT visit
immense pressure/scrutiny from town
it really is nonsensical, added to the fact that I can prove my role is what I say it is after the night, there is really nothing here to paint me as scum. If it's made up bullshit, and thats what you believe, then I'm handing you my life and the lives of my scumbuddies on a plate. I'm not a good neighbor. I can not be confirmed by Artanis to be town aligned. However it's as simple as this: 1. I can show my power to the town that is consistent with the role I claimed 2. The nature of the role itself is one that is expressly anti-mafia which can also be demonstrated.
Ok. What do you offer aside from your role? I don't like the idea of someone campaigning on their role alone.
Independence. A lot of mayors talk about how they're "with the town" and "they'll act for the town" and things like this. This is the opposite of what the mayor should do. With a mayor who is confirmed to be town aligned, acting independently is important to avoid the prevalence of mafia bandwagons. Mafia have the full voting power of their membership. If they are able to manipulate the mayor as well, they can add an additional 2 votes to their poor bandwagon. Having a mayor who doesn't take things at face value and get manipulated by mafia bandwagons is very important. 2 people have already criticized my scumhunting as being bad (even though I've never been townie before so they can't really base it on anything) but I can tell you it isn't. I've been mafia every single game I've been in and I know how the play. I've been a scum mayor before and I know how they play and what they do. I know what gets under the mafias skin. I have a plan for going about scumhunting and it isn't always obvious. But it's something I'm doing constantly and when I feel I'm ready to lay down the hammer of justice, I will. And I will always provide the utmost amount of reason and logic to everything I do. None of my actions will go unexplained, at the end of the day. So that's why I'm running and that's why I feel you should vote for me. Choose wisely town :3 I think it's safe to say you are claiming plague doctor, and the person you protect gets notified that you did this? That could be convenient. I do find it possible that mafia could have there own plague doctor, but Im not here to speculate that. If you use your power on me, and I can add you, we can start a circle. To verify it, you would give me one bodyguard who I would relay all of the information I learn. A medic can protect me if they wish, without fearing M-rus. If there is another plague doctor besides Dr.H (if that is what you are) Id suggst picking fishball, who has stated he has means to a circle and a role. That way another medic can choose between myself and fishball to protect. Whats really important is that the medics are safe in this from the M-rus, and if fishball or I die from a lucky shot by mafia, then oh well, fishball or myself die. Is this plausible Dr. H? If so, then you have my vote. I am not plague doctor. I can not cure murrayitis, I can determine 100% who has it. Thus I can direct plague doctors to act reliably. I might as well say how my power works. Once during the night I can poke someone. They will be informed that they were poked by me. Artanis sends this PM. If the poke is successful, I am told and this means they do not have M-rus. A person with M-rus cannot be poked and I will be told by Artanis that they have murrayitis. This is why earlier in the thread (much earlier) i said there was a 1/39 chance my confirmation would fail. Also I am completely immune to M-Rus, I can not be infected with it under any circumstance. Plague doctors should not protect me. This will free up more doctors to protect more people. By giving me immunity from night kills, medics won't have to waste their time on me, even though I'm a big target to mafia, and they can play more effectively.
Alright I appreciate your honesty. You would be useful in checking and guiding townie plague doctors, and it doesn't sound like a misleading mafia role unless your lying. I'd rather have a plague doctor as mayor to try my plan, but I can't go around saying SOMEONE CLAIM PLAGUE DOCTOR LOL. I think you've already gotten alot of cred for roleclaiming, so I wouldn't mind you as mayor. Having you immune to M-rus is a huge plus as mayor. I dont find you to be a likely scum, but as people have been linking you and I together for some reason, I won't tell people they should vote for you. I'd like to be mayor because I can manage circles behind my bodyguards. Id rely on a lot of town help, what with being able to be poisoned and such, but I don't mind being a night hit, and I dont mind being investigated, as it's not a useless check, giving some credit to the circles I can form.
It's your move town.
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also i talked to qatol about the game and we both agreed that my lack of communication with meeple who was pretty inactive was the main reason for errors in such a huge game
you're being really petty orgolove and i'll be honest you hurt my feelings. i put a lot into that game and you're just kicking dirt in my face for it.
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Fine. I'll stop bringing in your confirmed flaws into this equation.
But lets say EVERYTHING you said is 100% true. Basically, your ability is thus:
"Check ONE person a night to see if he has Murrayitis."
Murrayitis isn't a disease that kills immediately - rather than acting on a timer, it requires the mafia to go through and infect more than half the town.
If the mafia managed to infect over 20 townies, then the game's probably already over.
Is the ability to check what is essentially second priority on ONE person a day so important that we should nominate him as the mayor?
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Hosting a game has nothing to do with playing in this game. all bitching about something like that is gonna do is create drama that town doesnt need to deal with.
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On October 30 2010 14:38 orgolove wrote:
Fine. I'll stop bringing in your confirmed flaws into this equation.
But lets say EVERYTHING you said is 100% true. Basically, your ability is thus:
"Check ONE person a night to see if he has Murrayitis."
Murrayitis isn't a disease that kills immediately - rather than acting on a timer, it requires the mafia to go through and infect more than half the town.
If the mafia managed to infect over 20 townies, then the game's probably already over.
Is the ability to check what is essentially second priority on ONE person a day so important that we should nominate him as the mayor?
confirmed by me, not you
you don't even know what fucking mistakes i made since you've been wrong about every single one
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On October 30 2010 14:38 orgolove wrote:
Fine. I'll stop bringing in your confirmed flaws into this equation.
But lets say EVERYTHING you said is 100% true. Basically, your ability is thus:
"Check ONE person a night to see if he has Murrayitis."
Murrayitis isn't a disease that kills immediately - rather than acting on a timer, it requires the mafia to go through and infect more than half the town.
If the mafia managed to infect over 20 townies, then the game's probably already over.
Is the ability to check what is essentially second priority on ONE person a day so important that we should nominate him as the mayor?
This is a good point. I'd much rather put bum as mayor, because circle leader/manager is more worthy of nightkill invincibility.
Drop all the personal attacks. They're distracting us from the issues at hand.
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On October 30 2010 14:28 orgolove wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 14:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 30 2010 14:16 orgolove wrote:
lol, awesome find haha. Now we have second evidence of DoctorHelvetica "Embellishing the Truth" aka lying.
How could you not reveal the *slightly* important fact that whoever you do your night action on will be infected with Murrayitis?
Anything else you're hiding, mr Sticky? In the words of Antoine Dodson "You are so dumb. You are really dumb. For real." kingjames and infinitestory are merely speculating on the fact that my poke could infect them. however in my talks with artanis it is pretty clear the point of my role is to a. confirm my role to others and to b. tell who does and doesn't have murrayitis i was never told that i infect people with murrayitis and my understanding is that my role is designed to fight its spread you like to paint me as a liar whenever you can based on posts you don't even have the reading comprehension to understand obviously mafia would be shitting their pants at the idea of electing me. it's suspicious to say the least. Anyone who was even remotely invested in the Haunted Mafia game would be horrified at the prospect of letting you become the Mayor after the way you completely screwed up the game in the final days. Gj killing one of the last 3 mafia, letting the vamps just stroll to victory -_- I have no interest in allowing someone who screws up in that magnitude in a job as the town mayor.
First, you need to STOP with the personal attacks. How does your personal crusade help anyone in this game? Focus on what is relevant. We're going to need logic to get through an insane game.
Anyway, a couple of comments about this following post:
On October 30 2010 14:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It seems like you're trying to use this pretty far out possibility as a point against me.
hehe, "point". Was that an intended pun? =)
On October 30 2010 14:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The same sort of arguments could be applied to almost any player, that their role could be INSANE and unhelpful and all that jazz.
I think I've done enough to prove to you guys that I'm on your side as town.
You're pressing it so hard it's almost suspicious ;0 although i understand not wanting to leave any stone of possibility unturned
I'm being sincere in my attempts to further this discussion. I agree that you seem town, especially since you voluntarily gave information about your role even before you realized the significance of the title. I am not trying to discredit you. You're under fire only because you were the the most recent candidate to sum up your position. Then I asked for more specifics and now we're discussing that your role may be tainted.
I just want the town to perform their due diligence before we elect our Mayor.
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I can direct plague doctors, plague doctors don't know who does and doesn't have the disease and thus can't reliable coordinate the actions of other plague doctors
not to mention a confirmed townie mayor is a very useful thing, considering the fact that it is likely i would be recruited into the various circles of teh game
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On October 30 2010 14:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
watch the mafia keep grasping at straws to try to make me look bad and red when I've done more to show i'm town than anyone in this game
and then they want to vote for pandain lololol
I told you why I voted for pandain.
and frankly from last game you pretty much showed me you have no problem being mafia and cramming town talk down my fucking throat without thinking twice. so im still skeptical.
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On October 30 2010 14:30 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 14:22 Fishball wrote:
Even if I don't get the Mayor at the end, I still might reveal my role at that point, but this requires more consideration.
I think you are much better off not being mayor If a red slips into power as mayor and you are truly pro town as you say you are we are gonna need someone who can organize as a backup plan. I think you would be best suited as our ace up the sleeve in case mayor gets compromised.
Well to be honest, what needs to be said has already been said by me. It would just be flat out lame if I keep nagging about it, wouldn't it  ?
Right now, I'm just reading through the thread as it progress, keeping an eye on everything. What's up with all those players not posting since the game started? They should be mod-killed by now.
I can tell you right now that my role doesn't exactly have that "ace" power like you think it would. It is very simple in fact.
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On October 30 2010 14:42 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 14:28 orgolove wrote:On October 30 2010 14:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 30 2010 14:16 orgolove wrote:
lol, awesome find haha. Now we have second evidence of DoctorHelvetica "Embellishing the Truth" aka lying.
How could you not reveal the *slightly* important fact that whoever you do your night action on will be infected with Murrayitis?
Anything else you're hiding, mr Sticky? In the words of Antoine Dodson "You are so dumb. You are really dumb. For real." kingjames and infinitestory are merely speculating on the fact that my poke could infect them. however in my talks with artanis it is pretty clear the point of my role is to a. confirm my role to others and to b. tell who does and doesn't have murrayitis i was never told that i infect people with murrayitis and my understanding is that my role is designed to fight its spread you like to paint me as a liar whenever you can based on posts you don't even have the reading comprehension to understand obviously mafia would be shitting their pants at the idea of electing me. it's suspicious to say the least. Anyone who was even remotely invested in the Haunted Mafia game would be horrified at the prospect of letting you become the Mayor after the way you completely screwed up the game in the final days. Gj killing one of the last 3 mafia, letting the vamps just stroll to victory -_- I have no interest in allowing someone who screws up in that magnitude in a job as the town mayor. First, you need to STOP with the personal attacks. How does your personal crusade help anyone in this game? Focus on what is relevant. We're going to need logic to get through an insane game. Anyway, a couple of comments about this following post: Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 14:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It seems like you're trying to use this pretty far out possibility as a point against me. hehe, "point". Was that an intended pun? =) Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 14:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The same sort of arguments could be applied to almost any player, that their role could be INSANE and unhelpful and all that jazz.
I think I've done enough to prove to you guys that I'm on your side as town.
You're pressing it so hard it's almost suspicious ;0 although i understand not wanting to leave any stone of possibility unturned I'm being sincere in my attempts to further this discussion. I agree that you seem town, especially since you voluntarily gave information about your role even before you realized the significance of the title. I am not trying to discredit you. You're under fire only because you were the the most recent candidate to sum up your position. Then I asked for more specifics and now we're discussing that your role may be tainted. I just want the town to perform their due diligence before we elect our Mayor.
Fair enough kingjames01, that's all I really needed to hear. I guess I would want to do the same thing.
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On October 30 2010 14:42 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 14:28 orgolove wrote:On October 30 2010 14:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 30 2010 14:16 orgolove wrote:
lol, awesome find haha. Now we have second evidence of DoctorHelvetica "Embellishing the Truth" aka lying.
How could you not reveal the *slightly* important fact that whoever you do your night action on will be infected with Murrayitis?
Anything else you're hiding, mr Sticky? In the words of Antoine Dodson "You are so dumb. You are really dumb. For real." kingjames and infinitestory are merely speculating on the fact that my poke could infect them. however in my talks with artanis it is pretty clear the point of my role is to a. confirm my role to others and to b. tell who does and doesn't have murrayitis i was never told that i infect people with murrayitis and my understanding is that my role is designed to fight its spread you like to paint me as a liar whenever you can based on posts you don't even have the reading comprehension to understand obviously mafia would be shitting their pants at the idea of electing me. it's suspicious to say the least. Anyone who was even remotely invested in the Haunted Mafia game would be horrified at the prospect of letting you become the Mayor after the way you completely screwed up the game in the final days. Gj killing one of the last 3 mafia, letting the vamps just stroll to victory -_- I have no interest in allowing someone who screws up in that magnitude in a job as the town mayor. First, you need to STOP with the personal attacks. How does your personal crusade help anyone in this game? Focus on what is relevant. We're going to need logic to get through an insane game. Anyway, a couple of comments about this following post: Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 14:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It seems like you're trying to use this pretty far out possibility as a point against me. hehe, "point". Was that an intended pun? =) Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 14:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The same sort of arguments could be applied to almost any player, that their role could be INSANE and unhelpful and all that jazz.
I think I've done enough to prove to you guys that I'm on your side as town.
You're pressing it so hard it's almost suspicious ;0 although i understand not wanting to leave any stone of possibility unturned I'm being sincere in my attempts to further this discussion. I agree that you seem town, especially since you voluntarily gave information about your role even before you realized the significance of the title. I am not trying to discredit you. You're under fire only because you were the the most recent candidate to sum up your position. Then I asked for more specifics and now we're discussing that your role may be tainted. I just want the town to perform their due diligence before we elect our Mayor.
Full agreeal
The fact that nobody provided a non-WIFOM solution to the scenario I proposed, coupled with the relative worthlessness of DrH's ability (in terms of needing bodyguards), has made me change my vote back to myself.
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On October 30 2010 14:41 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 14:38 orgolove wrote:
Fine. I'll stop bringing in your confirmed flaws into this equation.
But lets say EVERYTHING you said is 100% true. Basically, your ability is thus:
"Check ONE person a night to see if he has Murrayitis."
Murrayitis isn't a disease that kills immediately - rather than acting on a timer, it requires the mafia to go through and infect more than half the town.
If the mafia managed to infect over 20 townies, then the game's probably already over.
Is the ability to check what is essentially second priority on ONE person a day so important that we should nominate him as the mayor? This is a good point. I'd much rather put bum as mayor, because circle leader/manager is more worthy of nightkill invincibility. Drop all the personal attacks. They're distracting us from the issues at hand.
Once again, circle leader, secret PMs mafia GF doesn't sound good to me. :/
The whole Dr. H thing has caused so much havoc and spam that it makes me suspect him as Mafia simply distracting us by causing havoc. >_>
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On October 30 2010 13:51 infinitestory wrote:Just thought of another way DrH might fake the role: Suppose his claim about the poking is correct, including that the poked knows DrH did the poking. But say DrH were a mafia and the 1 person infected with Murrayitis. This "poke" could be the method by which he transfers Murrayitis... and the person poked would still confirm that DrH poked him, thus establishing credibility. The plague doctors would immunize the people DrH tells them to, possibly including any reds that end up infected. This possibility has me extremely paranoid if only because it gives the reds such a gigantic advantage. The only ways I can think of to beat this scenario are very WIFOM.
here is my solution:
if plague doctors visit the people I poke, then the numbers of murrayitis won't rise assuming that I am the one transferring murrayitis (a scenario which i would call extremely unlikely)
I can prove I'm townie because mafia don't know who I will confirm to. They thus can't infect that person reliably and it will become evident very soon that the people I'm poking do not have murrayitis.
If they infect that person that night they would do so to trick plague doctors. If we discover this is their pattern of infection then there will never be a spread of infections because plague doctors just visit the people I poke.
this forces mafia to infect other people, which means I'll be confirmed. it is a bigger loss to them to infect nobody than it is to let me get off confirmed as town so I think it'll work out.
does that make sense?
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