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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
October 31 2010 21:51 GMT
#1334
Again,I have to apologizefor being so inactive. I went home for the weekend and have no time for the weekend. However, I will resume my activeness starting tomorrow (hopefully with a good news).

I know this is very mafia-like to post like this. I wish I can redeem myself soon.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 01 2010 20:23 GMT
#1888
I am back at my dorm, read from Day 2 onward (so missed about 20 pages).

So without DrH dying, there is no way of proving DrH's alignment if he was to be roleblocked every night. We can't do much here since there could be better lynch targets. What DrH say now can be treated as useful information in the case he dies in the future. Mafia can kill DrH tonight without the presense of a bodyguard. They can also choose not to kill DrH and let people who are against DrH and his failure of proving himself do their jobs. Again we can't do much here.

In regard to the Aeres/youngminii situation, I don't have much useful insight of the situation.


Now for the purpose of this post:

Node got a very good power (the power to predict that a specific person die). If this power is included into the 2+1 kill power of the mafia, we can reduce the number of mafia targeted death by 1 if we can protect that certain person with a medic related role.

Words directing to DCLXVI:
Node who claimed oracle predicted your death, if you got anything to contributed please do it now. Also IF roleclaiming before dying benefits town, then roleclaim.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 01 2010 21:57 GMT
#1900
On November 02 2010 06:56 NB wrote:
i want to know 1 thing before i said anything.....
Node said that at day he knows who will die at night, so who is it this night?

It's DCLXVI
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 01 2010 22:12 GMT
#1904
Wow, Kenpachi got one of those temp ban for degrading posts. I have to be careful myself since I too got a warning half a month ago.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 01 2010 22:40 GMT
#1916
Look over day 2 post again. 3 people are infected...

The logical reason is mafia targeted someone and that person came in contact with 2 others.
I question who that person could be.

On October 29 2010 10:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 10:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Does the person with murrayitis know they have murrayitis?

With the exception of any doctor role, players will not be informed if they have murrayitis.

As of now, no one claims to have the disease so I assume that no doctor has the disease.

If DrH is telling the truth about his poking ability and his doctor role. He couldn't have the disease and the disease never transferred to another person.

Then who the mafia targeted with the disease and who the disease spread to. We have to figure this out soon or the game will end at an exponential rate.

My guess is that it's someone who stood out in day1 excluding DrH.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 01 2010 23:29 GMT
#1928
I don't believe that M-rus uses RNG for its target.

Reason 1 (day1) mod post:
Mayor Artanis of Insania was quickly overwhelmed by the effects of Murrayitis. It quickly became clear that the Mafia had somehow harnessed the power of Murrayitis and planned to use it against the town.

It stated that Mafia harnessed the power and planned to use it against the town.

Reason 2:
Three people are infested. That means that M-Rus infest on a random person who happens to a somewhat popular given they came in contact with 2 other people.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 01 2010 23:38 GMT
#1929
On November 02 2010 06:17 bumatlarge wrote:
I'm going to make a brief player summary list. Nothing fancy, please quote to add FACTS not opinions. I'm doing this from memory just to help myself remember exactly what concrete things have happened.

+ Show Spoiler +
1. DoctorHelvetica - Mayor. Claims role checks for virus, used on jcarl night1, no results.
2. Hyperbola -
3. Bumatlarge - Claims he can add a person to be a personal mason each day. Ran for mayor
4. Veldril
5. Pandain - Ran for mayor. At odds with Dr. H?
6. Aeres - Claimed BG and captain role that lets hi leave at night with restrictions. Says the BG claim was a lie.
7. deconduo
8. Coagulation
9. annul Bullet Bill / Bodyguard - Mayor candidate, real BG, if there is only 1.
10. infundibulum
11. Amber[LighT]
12. Kenpachi
13. lol1221 RebirthOfLegend
14. Nemesis
15. ghrur
16. KtheZ
17. QuickStriker Angsty Pardoner - Result of +1 kp of mafia? (node oracle)
18. CubEdIn
19. Meapak_Ziphh
20. SiNiquity Self-Conscious Vigilante
21. DCLXVI
22. Divinek
23. Lexpar
24. ShmotZ Mafia Do-Gooder - never used vote, part of fishball circle
25. Orgolove ADD Doctor - modkilled, fishball circle
26. Node - Claims oracle, can see where +1 mafia kp will strike
27. youngminii
28. jcarlsoniv - claims he was never poked by Dr. H
29. BrownBear Vote Rigger
30. Infinitestory
31. Masq L
32. NB
33. Meeple Glasse
34. Misder
35. kingjames01 Self-Conscious Lazy Vigilante
36. Ace
37. Fishball - Is in confirmed (orgolove) circle of 6. Only 3 remain. Claims he can determine alignment of his circle.
38. kitaman27
39. LunarDestiny

24 of 30 Town-aligned roles remaining
8 of 9 Mafia-aligned roles remaining

1 BG
Murraytis spreads to visitors and visitees. 3 People infected.
Radio Loony lets a message be sent by some player.

So lazy that I use this chart as reference...

According to the chart, ShmotZ and Orgolove are part of Fishball's circle. But according to the role pm given after their death, there is no mentioning for any circle whatsoever.

Orgolove the ADD Doctor is now dead.
You are the ADD Doctor! Once per night, you may PM me the person you want to save that night. However, if the person doesn't get hit at night, you get an ADD attack and have a 10% chance of killing him yourself, so be careful! You are not allowed to protect yourself, as you are paranoid that you might kill yourself. Furthermore, given the recent spreading of Murrayitis, you have trained yourself in being able to cure a person from this plague.


ShmotZ the Mafia Do-Gooder has been modkilled.
You are the Mafia Do-gooder! You never really wanted to be part of the mafia, but your dad just happened to be Al Capone so you were forced into it. Every day, you get an additional vote every day, but have to use it to vote on one of the mafia. If you are the only mafia left, you are relieved of this.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 02 2010 00:26 GMT
#1953
On November 02 2010 09:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 09:18 Fishball wrote:
On November 02 2010 08:38 LunarDestiny wrote:
On November 02 2010 06:17 bumatlarge wrote:
I'm going to make a brief player summary list. Nothing fancy, please quote to add FACTS not opinions. I'm doing this from memory just to help myself remember exactly what concrete things have happened.

+ Show Spoiler +
1. DoctorHelvetica - Mayor. Claims role checks for virus, used on jcarl night1, no results.
2. Hyperbola -
3. Bumatlarge - Claims he can add a person to be a personal mason each day. Ran for mayor
4. Veldril
5. Pandain - Ran for mayor. At odds with Dr. H?
6. Aeres - Claimed BG and captain role that lets hi leave at night with restrictions. Says the BG claim was a lie.
7. deconduo
8. Coagulation
9. annul Bullet Bill / Bodyguard - Mayor candidate, real BG, if there is only 1.
10. infundibulum
11. Amber[LighT]
12. Kenpachi
13. lol1221 RebirthOfLegend
14. Nemesis
15. ghrur
16. KtheZ
17. QuickStriker Angsty Pardoner - Result of +1 kp of mafia? (node oracle)
18. CubEdIn
19. Meapak_Ziphh
20. SiNiquity Self-Conscious Vigilante
21. DCLXVI
22. Divinek
23. Lexpar
24. ShmotZ Mafia Do-Gooder - never used vote, part of fishball circle
25. Orgolove ADD Doctor - modkilled, fishball circle
26. Node - Claims oracle, can see where +1 mafia kp will strike
27. youngminii
28. jcarlsoniv - claims he was never poked by Dr. H
29. BrownBear Vote Rigger
30. Infinitestory
31. Masq L
32. NB
33. Meeple Glasse
34. Misder
35. kingjames01 Self-Conscious Lazy Vigilante
36. Ace
37. Fishball - Is in confirmed (orgolove) circle of 6. Only 3 remain. Claims he can determine alignment of his circle.
38. kitaman27
39. LunarDestiny

24 of 30 Town-aligned roles remaining
8 of 9 Mafia-aligned roles remaining

1 BG
Murraytis spreads to visitors and visitees. 3 People infected.
Radio Loony lets a message be sent by some player.

So lazy that I use this chart as reference...

According to the chart, ShmotZ and Orgolove are part of Fishball's circle. But according to the role pm given after their death, there is no mentioning for any circle whatsoever.

Orgolove the ADD Doctor is now dead.
You are the ADD Doctor! Once per night, you may PM me the person you want to save that night. However, if the person doesn't get hit at night, you get an ADD attack and have a 10% chance of killing him yourself, so be careful! You are not allowed to protect yourself, as you are paranoid that you might kill yourself. Furthermore, given the recent spreading of Murrayitis, you have trained yourself in being able to cure a person from this plague.


ShmotZ the Mafia Do-Gooder has been modkilled.
You are the Mafia Do-gooder! You never really wanted to be part of the mafia, but your dad just happened to be Al Capone so you were forced into it. Every day, you get an additional vote every day, but have to use it to vote on one of the mafia. If you are the only mafia left, you are relieved of this.


Once again, I repeat, QS was in the circle too.
6 total - 3 dead = 3 remaining, ok ?

Speaking of which, the 3rd member still have not replied to my PM regarding a request for a role claim. He just flat out did not reply to me.


Considering the mafia likely know everyone who is in the circle, I think you should tell everybody as a town. It's just more information that we don't have that the mafia does.

Good point here. Since ShmotZ is part of the circle and he was reveal to be mafia. Then mafia should have the circle list as information. No reason to hide it unless the plan you are having has to work secretly to town.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 02 2010 00:53 GMT
#1962
Before the bandwagon on Aeres goes in full motion, I like to point out that:

If Aeres is mafia, then claiming Bodyguard make him look town since mafia have no intention of killing DrH through nightkill and is ok to roleblock DrH every night. Then there will be no bodyguard death through targeting mayor with night kill.

Unfortunately for Aeres, the other bodyguard got modkilled and forced him to semi role claim. I do agree that Aeres currently is our best lynching target, but I would abstain of my vote because I don't want the bandwagon to take over. Aeres needs to speak up if he is trying to help town.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 02 2010 17:28 GMT
#2136
Reading the last few pages after class and I have an epic facepalm. Glasse... you got an awesome role but you just changed yourself to a vanilla townie unless your role got another ability. I won't go too much on it since everyone else probably said enough.

This an examples I would have post on the radio.
-It seems that a mafia member is feeling bad for the sin he committed.

LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 02 2010 17:46 GMT
#2144
I don't have a strong opinion on which possible candidates is/are mafia.

Youngminii - He escaped one lynch for some reasons. DrH also pointed out that his willingness to keep gunning for Aeres makes him less likely to be red.

Aeres - Lied about being the bodyguard role. Pretty much given up after being exposed.

Divinek - Inactive...

I probably choose between Aeres or Divinek. But I'll decide near deadline to see if I can justify my vote better.

LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 02 2010 18:39 GMT
#2159
I missed Infinitestory post on p.98 about Youngminii's posting...

But that post never imply that Youngminii is a scum but as someone who doesn't understand the game.

The biggest benefit of reading that post is it reminded me that Youngminii refuses to reveal anything about his role except saying that his role is definitely blue(crossed out useless information).

Am I missing something?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 02 2010 21:55 GMT
#2210
I was going to type my reason for voting Aeres and Pandain had to post that.

I also found out that my knowledge of how bodyguard works was incorrect. There goes half of my reasoning behind lynching Aeres.

DrH's reply to Pandain is logical and I don't believe that Pandain is try to twist your word to make you look scum. I think he is misinform about your ability to semi prove that a person is town or mafia (heck. I was confused about your ability before that reply of yours).

Now for who I should vote (does it matter at this point?)
Youngminii - No one reply to my post that was made 2 hours before about how Infinitestory's post depicts why youngminii gunning for Aeres is scummy. As of now, he somehow escaped lynching (from the things happened in this game, this is not the most crazy thing). When asked about his role, he refuse to say much except that he is blue...

Aeres - He was my prime target but after I found out about what bodyguards really do, I drop most of my claim that it is beneficial for mafia to roleclaim bodyguard when they are willing to roleblock mayor every night. The reason left over is he lied about being a bodyguard.

Divinek - he is being targeted because of inactiveness... won't modkill do the work?

CubEdIn - There's not much information about him. He did role claim as doctor right? If that is true, someone needs to protect him and speak up in the future if their night protection worked. If not, he will end up dead.

I still don't have a strong opinion on who is mafia. I do agree that lying is pretty bad. If mafia can get away with a exposed fake roleclaim, then they can do it again (especially in this game where they can make up role). Also, I do agree that we will be talking about Aeres for the rest of the game if it is not resolved today. Because there is a lack of clear target for today, I believe we can use it to clear out this confusion.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 02 2010 22:35 GMT
#2227
Fishball voted yet? He is too valuable for town to lose.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 02 2010 23:03 GMT
#2239
the only thing you can do with your role is to confirm that the role is yours.

You can do it by claiming what you are putting in the next radio show.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 02 2010 23:05 GMT
#2240
Aeres, dying man should not lie. Were you telling the truth?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 02 2010 23:07 GMT
#2243
Are you implying that you also got a lynch escaping ability?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 02 2010 23:13 GMT
#2254
Fishball's PM network is NOT now dead

You guys can talk in encrypted messages using "Fishball's last PM network message" as the encryption code. Or you guys might not want to expose yourself as being in the circle.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 02 2010 23:17 GMT
#2261
On November 03 2010 08:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 08:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[
Divinek the Mafia Plague Doctor is now dead.
You are the Mafia Plague Doctor! You killed LSB because you were unhappy with the town. You decided to aid the mafia in curing their members instead. You can cure any one person from Murrayitis at night.




Well I guess that infers some town members also have the power to use Murrayitis against the mafia? That's a good thing I suppose.

I don't that is the case. Remember that day1 post about mafia harness the power of M-Rus? It implies that only the mafia can use the power. The mafia having their own plague doctor give them the incentive to infect their own (possible popular players) and transmitted the disease faster. They can cure the disease right before all the infected die.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 03 2010 00:12 GMT
#2290
On November 03 2010 09:04 Coagulation wrote:
i think if anyone is painted red by the aeres lynch its youngminii he was the very first to throw around "LAL" and "lynch first ask questions later" with zero reasoning.

unless something significant happens overnight im gonna be watching youngminni closely.

I don't agree...

Youngminii claimed soon after Fishball's death that he is the newest added member to the circle. Fishball's post also hinted that youngminii is possibly the newest member given youngminii's unwillingness to release he role.
On November 02 2010 14:17 Fishball wrote:
One last update before I go to sleep.

- We have 4 members in the circle now, including myself. We all know who each other are.
- 2 members have role claimed to me, which includes the new member.
- The last member finally replied, and have refused to role claim to me for now, explaining that he wants to play it safe for a while.

Good night.


My conclusion is that Youngminii is the new member in the circle (the other two members of the circle can decide if they want to step up and prove Youngminii is indeed the newest member.

I don't think the mod would be that evil and give the circle a mafia member after half of their circle got modkilled.
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