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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 13 2010 04:52 GMT
#1161
On October 13 2010 13:51 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 13:47 seRapH wrote:
On October 13 2010 13:47 Bill Murray wrote:
dt is already checking you
sorry

probably shouldnt be encouraging framers

framer wants to die to vampire brute be my guest


Alright, this prove it.

You assume framer wants to do to vampire brute.
Brute wouldn't just kill me for framer.
You assume Vampire Brute is going to kill me.
And yet you send the DT to go check me.

Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 13 2010 04:52 GMT
#1162
Hmmm, I'm assuming Night Phase has started since it says in the voting thread that Masq was lynched.

I'm also guessing that we don't get to find out his role until the next day phase?
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 13 2010 04:53 GMT
#1163
On October 13 2010 13:52 Nemesis wrote:
Hmmm, I'm assuming Night Phase has started since it says in the voting thread that Masq was lynched.

I'm also guessing that we don't get to find out his role until the next day phase?

Look in the OP and you can find a link to the Night 1 post. Masq was a vampire spawn.
RIP Aaliyah
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 13 2010 04:53 GMT
#1164
On October 13 2010 13:44 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 13:42 NB wrote:
i like the idea of not stacking ghost: each of you tail a New Player and hold on to them tonight. The chance of 1 of the new players being killed is almost 0%


exactly, why would you want to waste it. Medics want to protect people. Vampire brute will in all liklihood not be used. However, just to be sure I'm asking DT NOT to check me this night, prefferably next night or after.

its not wasting but saving! it just like you have money and you wana invest it now or you wana save it later? Ghost is a very good role and the more we have late game, the stronger we are. There is no point to waste them early on people who has not been role-checked.

In fact: i just look over on mafia and Vamp abilities once more time:

Mafia: mind fuck shit, they can do almost anything now since Vamp is down 1 => they shall lay low and frame people with invisible man => Clue day 2 cannot be trusted >.<
Vamp: They have 2 choice: target lowbies to stay safe OR kill power posters (people who post a lot without spaming). the more likely is killing power posters....
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YummyBlaBla
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada72 Posts
October 13 2010 04:53 GMT
#1165
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 12 2010 03:08 YummyBlaBla wrote:
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On October 12 2010 00:43 Veldril wrote:
Oh well, I think I deserve to be suspected for protecting Masq. But let's be clear, I'm suspecting Masq too but I don't want to draw conclusion based solely on the story that the GM wrote. To quote what Dr.H written in the introduction:

Clues:
During the day, people die. When people die, clues are left behind by the dastardly mafia (or monsters) that killed them. Clues may refer to a persons profile, name, and signature. They can be taken from anywhere and won't always be so obvious. Keep a sharp and open mind when looking for clues. Remember, clues often times hurt the town more than they help. Analyze but don't go overboard in trying to use clues to your advantage, you may just run yourself in circles. Mafia is a game of deception, guesswork, and manipulation before it is a game of clue analysis. Keep that in mind.


That means the clue might hurt townie like us too.

Now let me response to Bill Murray's post:

On October 11 2010 15:39 Bill Murray wrote:
On October 11 2010 14:46 Veldril wrote:
Reporting in.

Many victims seems to die by a weapon, maybe most are killed by mafia? Or maybe the vampire mimic the mafia style? However, I'm not sure is this important or not.

Also, nice find Glasse. That's really helpful. But maybe we can get more clue from the first night post that make the mafia/vamp more visible.


This seems very forced. Maybe this, maybe that. I'm voting this guy. Fuck all the clue speculation, let's lynch Veldril over this post.

I like your post here. Yes, I was absolutely did a bad post and deserve to be suspected. But after reading Ver's guide, do you think I would make a same mistake that Misder made in the past? I think not.

On October 11 2010 15:48 Bill Murray wrote:
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On October 11 2010 15:33 Veldril wrote:
On October 11 2010 15:14 Nemesis wrote:
On October 11 2010 15:11 Veldril wrote:
Another thing is that are we too readily to blame Masq for the kill? The evidence is quite obvious but it could be too obvious sometimes. We need to be a little bit more careful about voting.
Unless you have someone else in mind, then please enlighten us. Right now, it is the best lead we got.

I don't have one specific in my mind right now (that's why I don't vote yet). But I have some idea...

Firstly, because the Mafia and Vampire knows who are on the same team with them, they would want to deflect the blame if a person in his team is suspected. A person who rashly accuses other person could be a Mafia or a Vampire, especially on Day 1. Note that this is not about presenting suspicious players' profiles. But it's more about looking at only one profile and making an accusation without analysis or with an over-analysis.

Secondly, I believe that there's old-school player here so we might be able to check their previous post first before making an accusation. Analyzing the old posts in previous games might become useful if you have time to do it.

LOL. YOU JUST ADMITTED YOU'D BUDDY WHEN MAFIA, AND YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT WITH MASQ. I DON'T MEAN TO BE FUNNY WITH HALLOWEEN-REFERENCES, BUT THAT WAS REALLY THE NAIL IN YOUR COFFIN MR VAMPIRE LOL


Could you please clarify how I admitted that I'm a mafia/vampire? Because I defended Masq? I guess your logic is something like this.

If someone is a mafia/vampire then that person would defend blame on his team mate.
If a person defend other person then those people are teammate.

Veldril defend Masq
Therefore,Veldril and Masq are team mate.
Therefore, Veldril and Masq are vampire.

If your logic is like above then I think you have made both formal fallacy and informal fallacy. With an experienced player like you, it is unlikely that you would make such fallacies, unless you ignore them to make an accusation on me with some agendas. Of course, I could be wrong but in that case, could you please clarify why do you think I team up with Masq please?


I think I just found 2 vampires here guys


Holy balls. I called those guys as being vampires.

That is all. I'm going to catch up with the thread brb
If you pour water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 04:58:53
October 13 2010 04:54 GMT
#1166
PM harassment? Bill Murray there have been far too many complaints regarding your play in this game. You have personally attacked Pandain and BloodyC0bbler when it was irrelevant to this game and have been spamming this thread.

I let you slide on too much. I understand you are a vet at this game but you need to use that status maturely instead of rubbing it in peoples faces, especially when there are so many new players in this game.

You are out of this game and will be replaced. I would appreciate it if you don't post in this thread for the rest of the game.
RIP Aaliyah
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 13 2010 04:54 GMT
#1167
On October 13 2010 13:53 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 13:44 Pandain wrote:
On October 13 2010 13:42 NB wrote:
i like the idea of not stacking ghost: each of you tail a New Player and hold on to them tonight. The chance of 1 of the new players being killed is almost 0%


exactly, why would you want to waste it. Medics want to protect people. Vampire brute will in all liklihood not be used. However, just to be sure I'm asking DT NOT to check me this night, prefferably next night or after.

its not wasting but saving! it just like you have money and you wana invest it now or you wana save it later? Ghost is a very good role and the more we have late game, the stronger we are. There is no point to waste them early on people who has not been role-checked.

In fact: i just look over on mafia and Vamp abilities once more time:

Mafia: mind fuck shit, they can do almost anything now since Vamp is down 1 => they shall lay low and frame people with invisible man => Clue day 2 cannot be trusted >.<
Vamp: They have 2 choice: target lowbies to stay safe OR kill power posters (people who post a lot without spaming). the more likely is killing power posters....


That's the same as DT not checking anyone cause they could die. Blue's should always use their roles, just not openly all on the same person.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 13 2010 04:55 GMT
#1168
On October 13 2010 13:44 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 13:42 NB wrote:
i like the idea of not stacking ghost: each of you tail a New Player and hold on to them tonight. The chance of 1 of the new players being killed is almost 0%


exactly, why would you want to waste it. Medics want to protect people. Vampire brute will in all liklihood not be used. However, just to be sure I'm asking DT NOT to check me this night, prefferably next night or after.


I agree with you here Pandain.

The new players probably won't be killed. So, if a ghost protects them, it would just be a wasted blue. The chances of the brute being used tonight are slim, but who knows? The brute will be more powerful when it can take out a higher percentage of the players. Now, it WOULD suck if the ghosts stacked, but only because that's one less person who will be protected. But I do not fear the brute too much tonight.
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ShmotZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States581 Posts
October 13 2010 04:56 GMT
#1169
Still doesnt prove that you were wrong about masq. You still havent even said anything about your profile picture and how it matches with the same clue your using to make me look guilty.

Enough about this im done trying to prove my innocence to you, you've been after me since the start with nothing other than a clue that might or might not even be related to the death. Your losing track about whats going on.

Have you not been paying attention to how fishy Bill Murray and Pandain have been? Both want people to get on there sides and protect them and do what they say. There little grudge is gonna tear the town apart and thats what we dont want.
Ah, computer dating. It's like pimping, but you rarely have to use the phrase "upside your head." - Bender
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 13 2010 04:58 GMT
#1170
o snap
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
October 13 2010 04:58 GMT
#1171
shit just got real o.O
boomer hands
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 13 2010 04:59 GMT
#1172
Hm, every mafia game I played, no discussion was allowed during the night. Odd.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Ap0Ejzlf165MdENWM3p1cHNOcDlnT0o4bjNUUFdVMlE&hl=en&output=html

Now that Bill's gone, it's prudent to bring up the list again.

1. questions raised from voting patterns
jodogohoo Changed vote 6 times
KtheZ Voted Shmotz early on, claimed to use random number generator, but his vote matches with LastArgument, who also has not explained his vote.
quickstriker no explanation of his vote vs thegilaboy other than claiming a "personal grudge" - given the importance of votes, it seems he doesn't care who dies and is trying to hid this by masking it
~opz~ Voted goldfishs before even reading the main thread, as he claims in the voting thread (link: here). apparently doesn't care who dies
Therick Voted Masq without posting anything in the main thread
Hyperbola voted for masq, but accused thegilaboy in his only post in the main thread
Siniquity voted for masq without posting anything in the main thread
Hittegods voted for masq, but accused jodogohoo in his only post in the main thread


2. questions raised from posting record in the thread
coagulation
+ Show Spoiler +

coagulation was quite defensive when he was first accused. He tried to bandwagon at the first opportunity, and when he was being pressured, made series of posts trying to "joke" about voting against him.
On October 11 2010 14:35 Coagulation wrote:
why the hell everyone voting to kill me already? theres hasnt been a single clue relevent to me mentioned at all. jeez.

On October 11 2010 14:56 Coagulation wrote:
omg i found incriminating evidence against myself

DoctorHelvetica was sitting at his desk deep within the Liquidvania jail. The jail used to be a dungeon when Dracula was in power and there were still bloodstains on the old stone walls. He heard footsteps coming down the hall, assuming it was the deputy warden coming to do his rounds he didn't even look back but just absorbed himself in his book on zombie history. The door creaked open and the footsteps stopped. DoctorHelvetica looked back at the open doorway but saw no one.

better post let the guys know

On October 11 2010 14:58 Coagulation wrote:
NO i think we should all stop analysing and just keep voting for coag for no reason




Oh by the way, I didn't realize someone who appears (or tries to appear) so clueless can speak all the jargon of a mafia veteran so easily. "reds"? "campaign of disinformation"? From someone who supposedly only started playing Mafia 2 days ago? Hmm...
On October 12 2010 06:17 Coagulation wrote:
how does the town communicate their roles to each other ??

On October 12 2010 06:16 Coagulation wrote:
well who are the blues??

On October 12 2010 06:04 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 05:56 seRapH wrote:
if you're a zombie then lynching you day 1 does zero harm. you should expect to lynch a green day 1, just by general probability and red interference. lynching reds day 1 is extremely lucky. lynching blues day 1 is not


well fuck.
I had no idea

so what exactly is the point of being zombie then?
everyone else gets actions and stuff to influence/control the game.
and i get the cannon fodder role? lame.

On October 12 2010 06:28 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 12 2010 06:25 NB wrote:
he has 1k9 posts for god shake.... its so clear that he is joking around.... =.=
he cant possibly go around accusing people before reading the rules....


sorry NB i have only had mafia forum access for about 2 days.

On October 11 2010 14:08 Coagulation wrote:
a bandwagon is generally when a group of people follow actions of other people just because everyone else is doing it


On October 12 2010 13:26 Coagulation wrote:
orgo may be a red trying to run a campaign of disinformation.

im not saying he is.. im just saying its possible.




jodogohoo
+ Show Spoiler +


A quick look at Jodogohoo:
summary - changed vote multiple times 1st day, supported bill murray, and now supports coagulation

Details:

Vote history:

On October 11 2010 13:16 jodogohoo wrote:
seRaPh

On October 11 2010 13:42 jodogohoo wrote:
change my vote to LSB

On October 11 2010 13:54 jodogohoo wrote:
lol sure why not! change to coagulation

On October 11 2010 15:04 jodogohoo wrote:
uhh change to youngminii

On October 12 2010 01:54 jodogohoo wrote:
change to coagulation!!!

On October 12 2010 02:33 jodogohoo wrote:
change to Veldril


That's a total of 6 vote changes in the span of one day.


Post history:
(not all)
On October 11 2010 13:55 jodogohoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 13:53 orgolove wrote:

Korynne: one other person in the cafe, drove for a long distance and when she stopped in her driveway she could swear she heard a noise in the backseat, silenced gunshot


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=kenpachi
lol a picture of itachi driving xD

On October 11 2010 15:02 jodogohoo wrote:
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On October 11 2010 15:01 youngminii wrote:
aztro you realise if shmotz is actually scum you just signed your own death warrant

wait but then that would be obvious because if shmotz kills you at night then we would suspect shmotz

wait but if scum kills you in order to frame shmotz we'd all think shmotz is scum and we'd end up lynching an innocent

but what if shmotz knew that and actually decided to kill you anyway in the hopes that town would think scum is trying to frame shmotz

this is confusing

we should kill this guy

On October 12 2010 07:47 jodogohoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 07:42 Bill Murray wrote:
aztrorisk better switch to veldril or he is a fucking liar and we are going to lynch him due to LAL

LYNCH
ALL
LIARS

LYNCH EVERYONE!

On October 12 2010 09:43 jodogohoo wrote:
what about kenpachi itachi driving =(



I don't know if he's so young that he can't make up his mind, or if he's not experienced enough to make his bandwagoning so transparent.

youngminii
+ Show Spoiler +

He at first tried to appear as noob:
On October 11 2010 10:07 youngminii wrote:
what is mafia?

On October 11 2010 13:04 youngminii wrote:
whats a haunted zombie

but then actively participated. He has a lot of posts that accuse many different people, and apparently doesn't care about who actually dies:
On October 11 2010 15:04 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 15:04 Nemesis wrote:
On October 11 2010 14:50 Lucktar wrote:
On October 11 2010 14:46 oddo123 wrote:
Veldril's public profile:

My body is made out of swords.
I have a blood of Fire and a heart of Glass.
I have fought through countless battles.
Never once retreating.
Never once being victorious.
The bearer lies here alone, forging iron on the hill of swords.

But my life needs no meaning.
My whole life was made out of unlimited swords.


Regarding Incognito's death:
As he turned the corner around a bookshelf a dagger pierced his heart. As he died he could feel cold steel pierce his body from every direction, ending his life cruelly.

Body made of swords is the only thing I've found so far that seems to relate to this bit.

This is a quote from archer from FSN. Archer had the power to make a reality marble which twists the surrounding to recreate his mind.

In that reality marble, he can make any sword and as much swords as he desire hence it being called Unlimited Blade Works. It can be interpreted that "he could feel cold steel peirce his body from every direction" as having thousands of swords pierce his body.

sounds like a good plan lets do it

/night

On October 11 2010 15:39 youngminii wrote:
don't forget to vote for aztrorisk because he is a loose cannon and has a picture of someone (presumably him in animated form) sleeping and being watched by a watcher. the watcher obv. suspects him of being scum so he's our best lead.

초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
October 13 2010 04:59 GMT
#1173
On October 13 2010 13:28 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 13:26 Node wrote:
Ah, finally got forum permission. Someone give me a quick rundown on what's going on at this point?

Bill Murray is a grizzly old bear.

Pandain is a cute baby panda.

1 + 1 = 2.

Along came a lion, protecting the panda and ravaging through the bear.

Lion = DoctorHelvetica btw
lalala
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 13 2010 04:59 GMT
#1174
Scratch Lastargument from the list - forgot to delete him
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
LastArgument
Profile Joined July 2010
United States152 Posts
October 13 2010 05:00 GMT
#1175
On October 13 2010 13:59 orgolove wrote:
Scratch Lastargument from the list - forgot to delete him


thank you =)
If i have learned one thing from life, it's that every man wants something
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 13 2010 05:00 GMT
#1176
roleclaim to me in pm please
i just died in mafia XXXI, and I asked for roleclaims there. I was a townie.
I am a jack o lantern, and I really need ghost protection, but I don't want ALL OF YOU protecting me, so I need everyone who is a blue to pm me their role

I need to live for a few day so I can place my bombs and be able to take out others later on after I am dead. If I have protection now later on I can sacrifice myself for a win. SO think of it as if I die now I can't get my bombs out. Ghost if I win, you win. Even if I am dead sacrificing myself for a win would be a honorable win for me and the town. Think about it, please. PM if you are willing to protect me and go for a win.- Bill Murray
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 13 2010 05:00 GMT
#1177
On October 13 2010 13:55 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 13:44 Pandain wrote:
On October 13 2010 13:42 NB wrote:
i like the idea of not stacking ghost: each of you tail a New Player and hold on to them tonight. The chance of 1 of the new players being killed is almost 0%


exactly, why would you want to waste it. Medics want to protect people. Vampire brute will in all liklihood not be used. However, just to be sure I'm asking DT NOT to check me this night, prefferably next night or after.


I agree with you here Pandain.

The new players probably won't be killed. So, if a ghost protects them, it would just be a wasted blue. The chances of the brute being used tonight are slim, but who knows? The brute will be more powerful when it can take out a higher percentage of the players. Now, it WOULD suck if the ghosts stacked, but only because that's one less person who will be protected. But I do not fear the brute too much tonight.

well, thats our suggestions... Its not like we can decided or anything =.=. all im hoping is our ghost stay alive ^__^...

so BM modkill :< dang! Now things change a little bit -,-... should we protect the new player who is replacing him or not? I mean we lost 1 "power poster" doesnt mean that we should protect his role... If its not Bill, there is no point on protecting that new kid right?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
October 13 2010 05:00 GMT
#1178
On October 13 2010 14:00 Bill Murray wrote:
roleclaim to me in pm please
i just died in mafia XXXI, and I asked for roleclaims there. I was a townie.
I am a jack o lantern, and I really need ghost protection, but I don't want ALL OF YOU protecting me, so I need everyone who is a blue to pm me their role

I need to live for a few day so I can place my bombs and be able to take out others later on after I am dead. If I have protection now later on I can sacrifice myself for a win. SO think of it as if I die now I can't get my bombs out. Ghost if I win, you win. Even if I am dead sacrificing myself for a win would be a honorable win for me and the town. Think about it, please. PM if you are willing to protect me and go for a win.- Bill Murray

lol
lalala
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
October 13 2010 05:01 GMT
#1179
Still doesnt prove that you were wrong about masq. You still havent even said anything about your profile picture and how it matches with the same clue your using to make me look guilty.

Enough about this im done trying to prove my innocence to you, you've been after me since the start with nothing other than a clue that might or might not even be related to the death. Your losing track about whats going on.

Have you not been paying attention to how fishy Bill Murray and Pandain have been? Both want people to get on there sides and protect them and do what they say. There little grudge is gonna tear the town apart and thats what we dont want.


Ok, I'll keep you in mid-suspicion for the time period happy? I won't bring up this anymore until a can gather alot more evidence.
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
October 13 2010 05:04 GMT
#1180
On October 13 2010 13:59 orgolove wrote:
youngminii
+ Show Spoiler +

He at first tried to appear as noob:
On October 11 2010 10:07 youngminii wrote:
what is mafia?

On October 11 2010 13:04 youngminii wrote:
whats a haunted zombie

but then actively participated. He has a lot of posts that accuse many different people, and apparently doesn't care about who actually dies:
On October 11 2010 15:04 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 15:04 Nemesis wrote:
On October 11 2010 14:50 Lucktar wrote:
On October 11 2010 14:46 oddo123 wrote:
Veldril's public profile:

My body is made out of swords.
I have a blood of Fire and a heart of Glass.
I have fought through countless battles.
Never once retreating.
Never once being victorious.
The bearer lies here alone, forging iron on the hill of swords.

But my life needs no meaning.
My whole life was made out of unlimited swords.


Regarding Incognito's death:
As he turned the corner around a bookshelf a dagger pierced his heart. As he died he could feel cold steel pierce his body from every direction, ending his life cruelly.

Body made of swords is the only thing I've found so far that seems to relate to this bit.

This is a quote from archer from FSN. Archer had the power to make a reality marble which twists the surrounding to recreate his mind.

In that reality marble, he can make any sword and as much swords as he desire hence it being called Unlimited Blade Works. It can be interpreted that "he could feel cold steel peirce his body from every direction" as having thousands of swords pierce his body.

sounds like a good plan lets do it

/night

On October 11 2010 15:39 youngminii wrote:
don't forget to vote for aztrorisk because he is a loose cannon and has a picture of someone (presumably him in animated form) sleeping and being watched by a watcher. the watcher obv. suspects him of being scum so he's our best lead.


Is this serious? Okay I guess I should defend myself.

First two posts that you quoted are both from BEFORE THE GAME EVEN STARTED. The next two posts are clearly jokes, how can you not see that? Seriously, did you even read these posts before you quoted them?
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