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On October 12 2010 07:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Ghost haunting does not prevent a witches curse. Ghost haunting only blocks an action that would kill the haunted player, it does not block bombs, role checks, boogeymen, or frames. [/blue][/b] o.O
the front page says otherwise... or am i reading it wrong?
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On October 12 2010 07:57 Pandain wrote: WTF WHY DID YOU DO THAT DONT YOU REALIZE THAT MASQ COULDNT HAVE BEEN THE JACK O LANTERN BECAUSE CLUES DONT RELATE TO THAT WHY THE FRICK DID YOU CLAIM IS THERE SOME I DONT SEE WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Summarizes how I felt when I read the roleclaim.
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So if you are indeed the jack-o-lantern, we may have a problem. Unless you are protected by a ghost tonight, a witch can just curse you and both your pumpkins won't be placed...if I understand the rules correctly. Now I'm trying to decide whether you knew this, and thus a ghost would HAVE to protect you, ensuring you'd survive for another day or if you just didn't think about it to begin with. Hmmmmmm
Actually, I thought of that, I was trying to make it apparent for the witch to curse me and the ghost to follow me. I was trying to give the ghost a easy decision of who to save.
If my plan works out the following would occur to benefit the town: 1. Mafia wasted a kill point trying to save me 2. Mafia wasted a curse trying to curse me 3. Vampires wasted a Kill point trying to kill me
as a result, the ghost haunt would be the most beneficial for the town this way.
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On October 12 2010 07:59 jaminz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 07:56 youngminii wrote: He can only place one bomb each night. If I was scum, I'd just kill him straight away. Good work on the roleclaim, buddy. The point still stands. If a ghost doesn't protect him tonight and a witch decides to curse him, then his power as a blue is completely wasted. So did he know this and is just trying to guarantee his survival by having a ghost save him? Or did he just overlook this completely. Again the ghost does not block the witch. Nothing blocks the witch.
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On October 12 2010 07:59 seRapH wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 07:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Ghost haunting does not prevent a witches curse. Ghost haunting only blocks an action that would kill the haunted player, it does not block bombs, role checks, boogeymen, or frames. o.O the front page says otherwise... or am i reading it wrong? [/blue][/b]
"The Ghost - You are a spooky ghost! You haunt people during the night but since most people are used to monsters you don't usually succeed in scaring them. However, if someone visits that person to harm them during the night you can give them a good scare, effectively protecting the victim you wanted so desperately to scare. Maybe you should have gone to ghost college after all. During the night PM me the name of a player to haunt."
harm = kill in this case. I will change it to make it more clear.
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Sorry for the double post, but I just saw that I was corrected. So pretty much if aztrorisk is the jack-o-lantern and a witch curses him, his power is completely useless and we've lost a blue for nothing......great. I guess now the thing to think about is if he doesn't die, then we might be able to assume that he is either scum (as they wouldnt kill one of their own) or he was saved by a ghost.
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On October 12 2010 07:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Ghost haunting does not prevent a witches curse. Ghost haunting only blocks an action that would kill the haunted player, it does not block bombs, role checks, boogeymen, or frames.
o.O
the front page says otherwise... or am i reading it wrong? [/blue][/b]
read the witch description: Witch - You are a master of black magic and studied for centuries in the town of Liquidvania. Even the people of Liquidvania who are accepting to monsters despise you and you have since taken up working for the mafia. Once during the night you can PM me the name of a player to curse, preventing them from taking action during the night. You cannot curse the same player twice in a row and you can not curse vampires as they are already cursed and you also cannot curse someone being haunted by a ghost.
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or Vampire brute kills you and everyone who visited you that day. Well done.
Well, I think we should keep his things hidden. I think he should only share with a select group so theres a chance the mafia/vampires won't know.
I obviously nominate me.
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On October 12 2010 08:01 aztrorisk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 07:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Ghost haunting does not prevent a witches curse. Ghost haunting only blocks an action that would kill the haunted player, it does not block bombs, role checks, boogeymen, or frames.
o.O
the front page says otherwise... or am i reading it wrong? read the witch description: Witch - You are a master of black magic and studied for centuries in the town of Liquidvania. Even the people of Liquidvania who are accepting to monsters despise you and you have since taken up working for the mafia. Once during the night you can PM me the name of a player to curse, preventing them from taking action during the night. You cannot curse the same player twice in a row and you can not curse vampires as they are already cursed and you also cannot curse someone being haunted by a ghost. [/blue][/b]
This is an early version of the witch that was not replaced. I am editing the description immediately, I apologize for the confusion and now feel very stupid.
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On October 12 2010 08:00 aztrorisk wrote:Show nested quote +So if you are indeed the jack-o-lantern, we may have a problem. Unless you are protected by a ghost tonight, a witch can just curse you and both your pumpkins won't be placed...if I understand the rules correctly. Now I'm trying to decide whether you knew this, and thus a ghost would HAVE to protect you, ensuring you'd survive for another day or if you just didn't think about it to begin with. Hmmmmmm Actually, I thought of that, I was trying to make it apparent for the witch to curse me and the ghost to follow me. I was trying to give the ghost a easy decision of who to save. If my plan works out the following would occur to benefit the town: 1. Mafia wasted a kill point trying to save me 2. Mafia wasted a curse trying to curse me 3. Vampires wasted a Kill point trying to kill me as a result, the ghost haunt would be the most beneficial for the town this way. Here are the flaws in your plan.
1. Mafia is trying to kill Vampire, would be beneficial for town if Mafia killed a Vampire. 2. Mafia has no one better to curse, at best they probably would've cursed a random green but thanks to you they have a confirmed blue curse. 3. See #1.
OH and you put the medic in a little bit of wifom.
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To clarify, the Witch can curse any player and if that player has a night role it can not be used the same night that they are curse. The witches only limit is that she can not curse the same player twice in a row. A curse does not replace a mafia KP and can be used every night. The early version of the witch could not curse vampires because vampires were originally written as a faction that started with 1 player and converted other players in the night and being blocked from converting would make them underpowered. I overlooked changing her description, I apologize. I'll re-read the roles and make sure there are no more mistakes.
Forgive me?
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Bill Murray...
Something is off here.
On October 11 2010 15:39 Bill Murray wrote:I am fairly happy lynching coagulation/masq, and I am glad people are voting for them. Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 14:46 Veldril wrote: Reporting in.
Many victims seems to die by a weapon, maybe most are killed by mafia? Or maybe the vampire mimic the mafia style? However, I'm not sure is this important or not.
Also, nice find Glasse. That's really helpful. But maybe we can get more clue from the first night post that make the mafia/vamp more visible.
This seems very forced. Maybe this, maybe that. I'm voting this guy. Fuck all the clue speculation, let's lynch Veldril over this post.
It appears you were against Veldril from very early in the game. And now you're going as far as blackmailing someone over this vote. What has convinced you to be so sure, apart from your own agenda?
LYNCH ALL LIARS
Mhmm...
It'd be difficult for normal townies to be so willing to jump on/start a bandwagon immediately. You give off a strong vibe of being in one of the opposing factions - probably in a one opposing masq/veldril.
It doesn't decrease the suspicion on Veldril, but your last series of posts really bring this point of contention out.
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Again the ghost does not block the witch. Nothing blocks the witch.
DoctorH
can you please read the witch description:
Witch - You are a master of black magic and studied for centuries in the town of Liquidvania. Even the people of Liquidvania who are accepting to monsters despise you and you have since taken up working for the mafia. Once during the night you can PM me the name of a player to curse, preventing them from taking action during the night. You cannot curse the same player twice in a row and you can not curse vampires as they are already cursed and you also cannot curse someone being haunted by a ghost.
Since you mentioned that the witch can't curse someone haunted by the ghost, I decided to reveal my identity or else I would've kept it a secret. Can you just let this rule come into effect only for tonight as a fair compromise?
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On October 12 2010 08:01 Pandain wrote: or Vampire brute kills you and everyone who visited you that day. Well done.
Well, I think we should keep his things hidden. I think he should only share with a select group so theres a chance the mafia/vampires won't know.
I obviously nominate me. I'd like to congratulate aztro for bringing all that wifom to the town, you are a true hero, sir.
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On October 12 2010 07:47 jodogohoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 07:42 Bill Murray wrote: aztrorisk better switch to veldril or he is a fucking liar and we are going to lynch him due to LAL
LYNCH ALL LIARS LYNCH EVERYONE!
Oh, and not to mention this little gem. jodogohoo is one of the most suspicious ones apart from masq right now, and he clearly appears to be in league with you.
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On October 12 2010 08:05 aztrorisk wrote:DoctorH can you please read the witch description: Witch - You are a master of black magic and studied for centuries in the town of Liquidvania. Even the people of Liquidvania who are accepting to monsters despise you and you have since taken up working for the mafia. Once during the night you can PM me the name of a player to curse, preventing them from taking action during the night. You cannot curse the same player twice in a row and you can not curse vampires as they are already cursed and you also cannot curse someone being haunted by a ghost. Since you mentioned that the witch can't curse someone haunted by the ghost, I decided to reveal my identity or else I would've kept it a secret. Can you just let this rule come into effect only for tonight as a fair compromise?
No its alright.
We got this shizzle snit. Anyway vampire brute was the flaw to your plan. Look it up.
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I'd like to congratulate aztro for bringing all that wifom to the town, you are a true hero, sir.
actually, the brute counts as a KP so I would be saved and the brute would also go to waste if the ghost decided to save me.
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On October 12 2010 08:08 aztrorisk wrote:Show nested quote +I'd like to congratulate aztro for bringing all that wifom to the town, you are a true hero, sir. actually, the brute counts as a KP so I would be saved and the brute would also go to waste if the ghost decided to save me. Nono the ghost would die.
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On October 12 2010 08:05 aztrorisk wrote:DoctorH can you please read the witch description: Witch - You are a master of black magic and studied for centuries in the town of Liquidvania. Even the people of Liquidvania who are accepting to monsters despise you and you have since taken up working for the mafia. Once during the night you can PM me the name of a player to curse, preventing them from taking action during the night. You cannot curse the same player twice in a row and you can not curse vampires as they are already cursed and you also cannot curse someone being haunted by a ghost. Since you mentioned that the witch can't curse someone haunted by the ghost, I decided to reveal my identity or else I would've kept it a secret. Can you just let this rule come into effect only for tonight as a fair compromise?
Yes. For tonight the witches curse will be blocked by ghosts, I take responsibility for not properly editing the OP.
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On October 12 2010 08:08 aztrorisk wrote:Show nested quote +I'd like to congratulate aztro for bringing all that wifom to the town, you are a true hero, sir. actually, the brute counts as a KP so I would be saved and the brute would also go to waste if the ghost decided to save me. The Vampire Brute not only bypasses the ghost but will kill the ghost and anyone else visiting his target in the night.
Ex. DoctorHelvetica is the Vampire Brute Meeple is the Boogeyman BloodyC0bbler is a Ghost haunting Meeple Plexa is a Mafia hitting Meeple Chezinu is a Detective rolechecking Meeple.
All of these players die including the Vampire Brute.
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